>> dickerson: today on "face the nation." >> john boehner stuns the political world. he's here to hell us why. john boehner was all smiles when he met reporters of a her his bombshell announcement. >> it's been churning for a couple of months. not good for the member. not good for the institution. >> dickerson: will his stepping down fix the chaos. speaker boehner here with us to stalk about his decision and what impacts that emotional day with the pope had on him. and talk with bernie standers sand long time boehner friend and republican, ohio governor john kasich. we'll have political analysis take look how just for a moment it wasn't business as usual in washington. all come up on "face the

nation." captioning sponsored by cbs welcome to "face the nation." speaker john baner with us. this interview had been planned for some time. we will talk about the pope's visit but the big announcement. so i want to talk to you about that let's get right to the news. four days the government runs out of money is throwing go to be a shut down? >> no. >> senate is expected to pass, house will take up the senate bill. also take up select committee to investigate these horrific videos that we've seen from abortion clinics that in several states, raise questions about the use ever federal funds and raise questions about abort the fetuses. >> dickerson: the continuing resolution will that require votes? >> i sect my colleagues will

keep the government open. >> dickerson: what about the rest of the business you want to get done before october 30th? >> i've got another 30 days to be speaker. i'll make the same decisions the same way i have the last four and half years. to make sure that we're passing conservative legislation. that good for the country. i expect a little more cooperation from around town to get as much finished as possible. i don't want to leave my successor a dirty barn. i want to clean the barn up before the next person. >> dickerson: let's talk about the state. a lot of your colleagues i've talked to who have served with you, used the word dysfunction, say that you had to resign because it's a sign of how things dysfunctional are with the house. >> i wouldn't call it dysfunction. disagreement, yes. but as i said on friday i was

planning on leaving at the end of last year when my prepared lost his primary election in july of also year. i just couldn't belief. i had to provide transition for the next leaders. i planned on serving through this year and on november 17 i was going to make announcement. on thursday evening, friday morning, why do i want to put my colleagues through this when i'll make my colleagues -- why put institution through this. it was the right decision. i thought we handled it the right way. >> when you talk about decision they were going to have to go through. going to be -- >> motion to vacate the chair. >> kick you out of your job. help at home. >> winning that vote was never an issue i was going to get the

overwhelming numbers of votes. but make my members, republican members walk the plank. because criticized at home. by some, who think ought to be more. accolished a lieutenant over the four and half years that i was speaker. whether it of the largest deficit, saving $2.1 trillion, 899% of the american people from increase in taxes or first major entitlement reforms in 20 years. all done over last foyer and half years with democrat president all voted against by my most conservative members because it wasn't good enough. really? this is the part that i really don't understand. gave us system of government, majority of the house, need 60 votes.

the president gets to decide. some parliamentary system if you won the majority you got this long slow process. change comes slowly. too slowly for some. >> are they unrealistic in government? >> absolutely. but the bible says, beware of false paragraph pets. there are people out there spreading. noise about how much can get done. i mean this whole idea that we're going to shut down the government to get rid of obamacare in 2013 never had chance. but over the course of the august recess in 201, course of september. lot of republican congress who knew it was a fool's errand, all this pressure to to do this we have groups here in town, members of the house and senate

here in town whip people into a frenzy. they know are never going to happen. but 25 great years here in washington, great staff, great colleagues, very thankful. to my family and my constituents for giving me the honor. >> dickerson: is ted cruz a false prophet. >> pick a lot of names out i'll let you choose them. >> dickerson: you don't debate that? >> i'll refer to you my fundraiser in august in colorado. >> dickerson: let me put up a picture as you as member of gang of seven, 25 years ago, the last member of gang still serving, do you -- got some things changed do you see any of yourself in these current conservatives who are giving you deprive now? >> no. i was a rebel. it wasn't about shaking up the

republican. the house was run as one democrat chairman called it the last plantation in america: the post office scandal. my share of members to jail over ism proper activities in the house. but all that have bee we began to question how the house was being run, ther from of the house: helps us write the contract with america, get into the majority. it's been a great run. >> dickerson: let me ask you about -- you called, i believe you word jackass. button that up for the america people. switching to a much more bigger topic what was the bigger topic,

being named speaker or dash. >> grew up as altar boy was a big deal. i've tried with the last three popes to get them to address joint session of congress. the first time i did this, back in 1995 or ''96 somehow showed up my mother called my, still alive then, my mother never called me. i answered the phone, john, it's your mother. now listen i see you're inviting the pope, if he's there, i'm there, you got it? >> dickerson: he was with you this time. >> well, looking from above. dickerson: that's what i mean. tell me about that day. the impression it left on you, big deal, then you're in his presence. >> yes. a nice greeting when he came to the capital once the cameras were gone and hope sat down i

said, your holy father you're on boehner time. he looked at me funny, that means you're on time or you're early. you're early. we had wonderful chat and cardinal rolle and myself got in the conversation about education and the kids. then the meeting broke up, my family came in, my six week old grandson, allister was blessed by the hope. >> dickerson: when you -- you told another store row what the hope said to you about prayer. >> we left where the hope addressed all the people in the capital we came through my office, the hope went down to

the firster from on my elevator i took the steps down to t first floor, in which we now call freedom foyer i was standing there with the pope, the cardinals and the entourage was all moving out to their vehicles and the pope takes his left arm grabs my left arm pulls me near him and, saying nice worse, i wouldn't repeat because it cause me to cry. then put his arm around me and pulled me right into him and said, please pray for me. well, you can imagine, i was a mess. who am i to ray for the snow but i did. >> dickerson: there is belief in the catholic church that the holy spirit can move us. did it after that visit to make this decision for you?

>> it helped clear the picture. i never related one of these instances to the other. but by friday night it was obvious, it's time to do this j. so you woke up -- >> thursday night. woked up to starbucks and back. walked to -- at 7:45 i said, yeah, it's time to do this. >> dickerson: in a year or so you will be back in the hall nor the unveiling of your portrait. what do you want them to stay about you at that ceremony some. >> he was a good man. dickerson: that's it? >> all. dickerson: and do you have anything that you can say now that you're headed out the door that you wouldn't have said if you had to go through another election? >> no. i love my colleagues. even ones may disagree with me.

i love the institution. i tried to do the best thing every day. i'm a simple guy. do the right thing for the right arenas the right things will happen. >> dickerson: tell us about your thoughts about president obama. you worked on that grand bargain, didn't come through. reflect on that for a moment? >> it's probably one of the best egg disappointments in my speakership. we were so close to having -- two days later the president walked away from it. save about $5 trillion. been good for our economy, good for the country, good for the kids and grandkids. but it's washington. things happen. and on friday morning, nice conversation with my dear friends george w. bush. all my legislative colleagues.

>> dickerson: what advice do you leave for your successor about the job. >> do the right things for the right reasons. >> keep the country best interest in mind. and have courage to do what you can do. it's easy to have the courage what you can't, do but the courage to do what you can do. our system of government is not about hail mary passes, it's the woody hayes, school of football. three yards and a cloud of dust. it's a slow methodical process. >> dickerson: one last, what are you going to do now, by the way? >> i don't know. i made that decision, we'll figure it out. >> dickerson: one thing this i heard a rumor about that you might be able to admit now that year leaving, do you do yoga? >> i do.

not as diligent as i used to be a year ago. but i do. matter of fact i thought about it this morning, because it's great far my back. i've had back problems for 50 years but older you get all those tendons, muscles, wall want to tighten up. >> dickerson: thanks so much for being with us. >> nice being with you. dickerson: we hope to see you again. you'll come back in retirement? >> we'll see. dickerson: lots to talk about. we'll be back with democratic candidate bernie sanders. my name is watson. i'm helping doctors keep people healthy. take ted here. i'm pulling together data he shared from his wearables, health records and family history, so we can analyze it. he's doing everything right... for the most part.

no pain, no gain. you are a beast, ted. my name is watson. how can i help you? >> dickerson: joining us now is vermont senator bernie sanders. welcome. i just wanted to get your reaction to john boehner's news, he came to congress with him at the same time.

>> well, john has had impossiblely difficult job trying to reconcile the conservative wing of his caucus with the extreme right wing of his caucus that will not do anything, pass any legislation that barack obama will sign. it's an impossible job. i admire him for hanging in there. >> dickerson: another piece of news this week, scott walker folded his campaign, you've talked a great deal about the billionaire class that influences politics by getting money to candidates. the koch brothers were a big supporter, he dispoured from the presidential race. is that a rebuttal to your argument that big money calls the tune in politics? >> i wish it were, i wish that the koch brothers say, gee, now take the 900 million that we

machined to spent supporting right wing republicans, than either the democratic party will spend we're not going to spend it. i don't think they live that lesson. the power of money over political process is horrendous. i think that super pacs are playing destructive role in our political system and i will do, if president, everything that i can to see that this citizens united, supreme court decision is overturned. american democracy is not about billionaires trying to buy elections. >> dickerson: you did something, you went into audience that is not there just to applaud you automatically you went to liberty university, fundamentalist university you brought your same message, one of the things that you said that the audience knew you had disagreement on the question of 'worse on or same sex marriage

but asked to put them aside. the inequities, would you have the same message for liberals that on those issues that really stopped fighting about though focus on the big thing which is the economic inequality? >> this is what i said at liberty. this is what i believe. i am pro choice, i've always been pro choice. i am strongly in favor of gay marriage, i know that at liberty university people there have honest disagreements with me. i said, any time when we have grotesque level of income and wealth inequal. all the wealth going to the top 1% when we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country on earth, many millions of americans are working two or three jobs just to sustain themselves can we not get together and talk about creating an economy that works for all ever us and not just

millionaires and billionaires. when children go hungry in america, that is an issue. when 51% of african american kids are unemployment or under employ at liberty university among these communities you have some very sincere honest people who take these issues seriously. by the way, many are concerned as pope francis is, about climate change. the need to transform our energy system away from fossil fuel they believe that the earth created by god cannot be destroyed by grief. my question was, can we work together to address those issues. >> dickerson: like to play something for that you jeb bush said on the campaign trail and get your reaction to it. >> message one of hope and aspiration, wasn't one of did i kicks, get in line, we'll tear

care of with you free stuff. our message one that is uplifting you can achieve success. >> dickerson: that kind of argument that will be used against you if you use the no, ma'am knicks. your promising health care for all free college bunch of free stuff. unrealistic, what is your reaction? >> let's be clear that jeb bush is proposing massive tax breaks for the richest people in this country. while he will fight to cut social security and medicare and programs that tens of millions ever elderly people and middle class people are working class people are depend upon. i happen to believe that in democratic civil rised society all people should be entitled to health care. i do believe that. is it radical, no. every other major industrial crisissed country does the same. yes, i believe that it is absurd

that highly competitive global economy with hundreds ever thousands ever bright young people, can't because their family doesn't have the income. i believe that public -- should be tuition free. germany does it. other countries around the world do it. they know investing in their kids is good for the economy. we'll pay for that on tax. >> dickerson: on free college, hillary clinton weighed in on free college let's listen to what she said. >> i am not going to give free college to wealthy kids. i'm not going to give free college to kids who don't work some hours to try to put their own effort into getting their education. >> dickerson: what is your reaction to that critique, senator? >> my reactions that i think if you look at my agenda the

wealthy people are not particularly supportive of it. because we are going to ask the wealthiest people in this country to pay substantially more in taxes because we have situation where they are almost -- earning almost all of the new income. we are going to ask large corporations, profitable corporations some cases, zero in federal income taxes to paying their fair share. but i do believe that we need a system, free college education for all, free tuition in public colleges and universities. i think it is simple, straight pore ward, it exists inner countries in fact 50 or 60 years ago used to exist in the united states of america. >> dickerson: hillary clinton had, quote, no interest in attacking you. you've said you won't attack her. do you take her at her word? >> i certainly do. i hope that that will be the case.

one of the reasons our campaign is doing well is we are focusing on the real issue that impact the middle class and working families of this country. decline of the middle class, climate change, could runt campaign, affordability of college, et cetera. that is what i do. i happen to have known hillary clinton for the last 25 years, i respect her. i admire her. i'm not going to get into the business of attacking her. i have never run a negative ad. there are very ugly ads against me. i hope that in this campaign we can have civil discourse, discussing our differences of opinion which are many on important issues facing our country that is what the american people want us to do. >> dickerson: the super pac ads is that her promise ex spends to those? >> i would certainly hope so.

dickerson: let me ask you one final, what is status of the debate more of them, any chance going to be more democratic debates? >> i have a feeling there will be. i think debates are good for the american people, it's of it promotes serious discussion, in our kelp:see see i'd like to see more. >> dickerson: thank you sore much: we'll be back in a moment.

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