>> dickerson: today on "face the nation." marco rubio rises in republican race. house elects the any speaker, paul ryan. we'll talk to them both. after senator rubio's strong performance in last week's debate, how does he fight his way to the top in a pack still dominated by outsiders. >> i just don't believe anyone else running who has better understanding of the issues before us now than i do. >> and as wisconsin congress han paul ryan takes the gavel as speaker of the house, he says he'll run things differently. >> have been timid too long. we have to offer. >> dickerson: will he break gridlock on capitol hill? also talk to the number two democrat in the house, steny hoyer. and get the latest on the russian plane that crashed in egypt and killed 224. plus, we'll have roundtable to

analyze all the news it's all ahead on "face the nation." good morning, welcome to "face the nation" i'm john dickerson. we've got lot of political news to get to but we start with an update on what caused a russian airliner bound for st. petersburg from egypt carrying more than 200 passengers to crash in the sinai peninsula early saturday. cbs news correspondent allan pizzj in cairo, do authorities have any idea what caused the crash? >> the short answer to that is, no. speculation centered on mechanical and technical problem, the copilot's daughter has said that her father told her even before the plane took off that the pilots were concerned there was a problem. the plane took off in early hours of the morning, when it reached 31,000 feet and 400 noters the pilot called air traffic controllers said he had a technical problem and wanted to make an emergency landing then flight traffic shows that the plane dropped about 3,000

feet to 28,000 and slowed from 400 to 93 knots then all contact was lost. now, immediately following that, the affiliate offered here claimed that they brought the plane down killing what they called russian crusaders as pay back for russian involvement in syria. however, that group is known to have missiles that are only capable of going 20,000 feet. so, that is sort of ruled out. what they cannot rule out is possibility of a woman. interestingly, the search area has now been widened. it was initially all around the crash site where the wreckage is, but then today egyptian authorities said they found a body of a small child, a 5-year-old girl five miles from the crash site so they now widened the search area to nearly ten miles. you have to ask yourself, why are bodies perhaps debris spread out that far. now the good news is that both flight date that recorder and the cockpit voice recorder have

been recovered and there already looking into this which should give some clues also a russian recovery group has gone out to look at debris also to bring back bodies. the answers should come fairly soon but for now nobody really knows what happened. >> dickerson: with the first pieces of the puzzle, thanks so much. and russian aviation official now saying the disintegration happened in the air we'll continue to monitor. turning to the race for the republican nomination, yesterday we sat down with florida senator marco rubio out on the campaign trail in des moines. senator, i want to start with the news this the united states sending 50 special operations forces into syria, is that enough? >> well, it's an important start to what i think, from tactical perspective, broader issue, what is the strategy? has to involve more coordination with the kurds and sunnis. without robust anti-isis sunni

coalition. i do think it's important tactical step forward, needs to be backed up with increased airstrikes. i don't have problem with tactics of it. the numbers might even have to be larger at some point. but i think bigger issue can they arrive at strategy. that's why i think administration still struggling to outline. >> dickerson: special forces in seary but the russians are also operating in syria do you worry there's any conflict there? >> there is always that potential. one of the things that concerns us is that there is airstrike of some sort that may end up hitting forces that are americans embedded alongside, one of the issues that people concerning about miscalculation. but on the other hand, eyes will not be defeated unless they are confronted by organized anti- isis sunni movement that won't happen without american assistance of some significant level like what you're seeing proposed now. >> dickerson: donald trump says let the russians fight isis that's fine with us. >> the numbers russians aren't necessarily targeting isis, they're targeting non-isis rebels, part of effort to wipe

out any non-isis fighters to turn to the world say that the only choices are either assad or isis. second point is that the growth of isis will continue in iraq, they are spread into libya where they become significant presence in degreesingly in average as well. they are using all these operating bases not to conduct regional efforts but to grow, recruit people online. >> dickerson: how much of the united states should be worried about the russian presence in the middle east, increase presence in middle east. >> the goals are pry prayerly flee hold. putin wants to be viewed as important international leader on par of with the united states. part is deflecting attention away from ukraine. part is about becoming a regional power that replaces the united states in terms of the power broker in the region and its direction. the interests are to prop up assad who is provided for them a foothold into the region. so they are stepping into vacuum we left behind. ideal world you'd be able to

work with rush that to delete jihaddists. >> dickerson: let's switch to talk about executive experience. in 2008 republicans running talking about democrats that were running, senators running, barack obama, hillary clinton, constantly republicans say they never run as much at lemonade stand. they haven't governed. why this does not apply to you now? >> first of all the presidency is not a bookkeeping job. it's not glorified accounting job, the leader of the united states both as people and as nation and government. job ever a president is to craft a vision for america's future, to put the right people in the right position hold them accountable for carrying out your agenda but also to rally the country behind big causes, entitlement reform is huge undertaking, it will never happen without presidential leadership. not to mention national security. the context of barack obama he has now been president for seven years.

he has significant executive experience and he's still making mistakes in my opinion. and so it's clear that the issue with him is not that he didn't have executive experience, it's that ideas do not work. and that's why i think it's important to elect someone to the presidency with the right ideas. ideas that allow private sector to succeed because that's where you get job creation and economic prosperity. also someone that understands the risks in the world today of what america's role needs to be. >> dickerson: i guess when? is obviously something your opponents are writtenning up, jeb bush saying in fundraising appeal says you have no credible experience beyond governing, the questions have you been in a position where you've had to make tough calls, where there are real consequences and where do you get that strength from, if you were to make the presidency where you have those decisions all day long. >> the presidency not like being a u.s. senator. but it's not not like being governor. there is no office in the world. what i have then over last five years is judgment, good judgment, and understanding of a major issues before america,

particularly on foreign policy. i do not believe anyone else in this race that has shown better judgment on the issues before america today than i have and better understanding of them especially on the foreign policy realm. which is at the end of the date the most important obligation of a president. presidents don't run the economy. what you do promote policies that allow the private sector to succeed. >> dickerson: the bush campaign called you the republican obama the is that insult or compliment? >> i don't think they mean it as compliment, i don't take it as that. whatever gives them an advantage someone convinced, jeb, that attacking me is going to help his campaign. it won't change the way we pin our campaign. we'll continue to give people serious candidacy that is optimistic and realistic, about our future and challenges and the direction that our country needs to be. that's what i'm going to focus on. someone else chooses to go in a different direction, i think it's one of the reasons why barack obama was reelected in 2012 because too many candidates spent tremendous amount of time attacking fellow republicans and

undermining mitt romney. i hope we don't repeat that. >> you mentioned jeb bush in the debate this big moment between the two of you, he mentioned your missing votes in the senate as constituent he wanted you to be there more. you came back at him not just on subject stabs, but you questioned his motives, you said, you're just doing it because you're advisors have told you. is there nothing genuine in his critique of you in your attendance. >> of having criticized anyone else in the past. the truth is i don't like missing votes. what i would hate to wake up on first wednesday of november to the news that hillary clinton has been elected president of the united states. we're going to continue to serve the people of florida. we do have i think very good job in office in their interracks with government. most certainly be there for most votes and many votes. there wi be some i will miss. because i'm campaigning so that in the future those votes actually mean something. far too many votes that are in the senate are predetermined we know what the out come is going to be. being done for message and

purposes but never going to pass. because even if you could find enough votes to pass the president would veto it. when i become president we can turn some of these ideas into law, into policy. so when we're away that's what we're doing. >> dickerson: what jeb bush your mentor? >> he was a big part. i don't know about labels, most certainly big part of my career i have tremendous admiration. i said that at the debate. he was a great governor of florida, someone i have tremendous personal affection for. my issue is not with jeb bush. i'm running for president. i believe that our party and country needs to turn the page allow people, new generation of leadership that understands the issues before america now. i know there are people running with more experience than i do on issues we face 17 years ago. but on issues before america today that's what we should be debating. i just don't believe there's anyone else running who has better understanding of the issues before us now than i do. >> dickerson: are people wrong who say that the reason it was such moment for you in the debate because you have this

relationship, this friendship with him and you could basically call him on his motives and that that created this drama that everybody is talking about. people support you say you put jeb bush in his place. >> i don't know -- he said something i had to respond. i feel obviously what i said something that i believe. i do believe that jeb has been convinced by people around him that he needs to attack me in order to be more successful. i don't personally agree with it but i'm not running his campaign. what i control is my campaign. my campaign is not going to be attacking him or any other republicans. if there are policy issues we should debate those. i'm not going to bad mouth other republicans. i want to be the nominee. someone on that stage will be the republican nominee i don't want to do anything that makes it easier for hillary clinton or whoever democrat nominee is to defeat the republican. because we truly as a nation, cannot afford another four years like the last eight. >> dickerson: let me ask you on the senate attendance question. in iowa, the senate campaign there, republican senatorial campaign ran bunch of ads against the democrats saying he missed a bunch ever votes. it was devastating for him.

if it worked against democrat in that state that it could cause you any -- >> i'm not political strategist i'm candidate. i can tell you what i would hurt me more. never coming to iowa, people understand that if i do miss a vote it's not because i'm on vacation. it's because i'm here interacting with the voters in the hopes this they quill give pecans to be the republican nominee and president. again, unfortunately in the senate today majority of votes that are taken are not going to pass, they're being voted on for messaging purposes, important messaging purposes. i'm running for president so in the future when we vote to repeal obamacare or reallocate the money from planned parenthood to another entity we can turn that into policy and law. >> dickerson: thank you, senator marco rubio. to watch the interview check out our website facethenation.com. next up our talk with paul ryan.

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>> dickerson: lasts week weeks of chaos rallied around a new leader. electing wisconsin republican paul ryan the new speaker of the house. 45-year-old is youngest speaker in nearly 150 years, we spoke to him in his office on friday. john boehner said of his tenure, i came here to fight for a smaller, less costly more accountable government. but i began to realize over the years there was no winning this fight. i don't believe that. i think you can win this fight. i think if you offer the people of this nation who believe that the country is on the wrong track because it is, you offer them a bold alternative vision how to get this country back onment right track, how to fix our problems, how to reapply our founding principles, yes, i believe we can win this federal government give people the kind of freedom and opportunity for all that they deserve. >> dickerson: you said that you want to tackle issues head on,

even the tough ones. first order of business, immigration reform, going to tackle that? >> nice. i think it would be a ridiculous notion to try to work on an issue like this with the president we simply cannot trust. he tried to go it alone, circumvent can legislative process with his executive orders. so that is not in the cards. i think if we reach consensus on how best to achieve border and interior enforcement security i think that's fine. but look, we've taken plenty of tactical risks here in congress, i think it's time we take some policy risks by showing people what we really believe, who we are and how we can fix this country's great problems. so, we have been timid too long in my judgment we had to offer people a bold agenda. >> dickerson: give me a policy risk. >> we should stay with the new tax code looks like. what obamacare replacement looks like. people don't like obamacare. members of congress don't. most in the majority we all voted against this. if you take look at the premiums, take a look at the

fact that decisions are being taken away from patients and their doctors, people are starving for an alternative to this vision. >> dickerson: was there a cost to what that house has just gone through on the republican side? >> i don't think there was cost as much as it was growing pains. i think what we just experienced in the last couple of weeks was what was necessary to unify our congress, to unify our party. basically four things i think we need to d. number one, get the house working like it was intended to work by the founders. number two, we need to seek common ground, we need to find common ground to advance the nation's interests and we can do so without compromising our principles. number three, i think it's incredibly important that we serve as effective opposition party, a check on the administration's power that leads me to the most important point, number four, we've got to be a bold alternative party. a proposition party. we don't like the direction the company is -- how we do things

differently that's what we have to do in 2016. >> dickerson: the group of conservatives who fought against john boehner, the tactics he's using, they're too extreme but in the end republicans now voted for a speaker they really like, you. so isn't that validation of the tactics of the -- >> these guys are good friends of mine. i am a movement conservative, people know that. i think it's important -- what we haven't done is offer a vision. we have not shown not only ourselves but the nation what is the horizon we're shooting for. what are the big ideas that we're going to champion. that's unifying. that's what we should rally around that to me means we should put aside the timid nature of not taking risks on policy and show people why we should be trusted to lead in this nation to get us to a better day. >> dickerson: do you see this job as a leader where you say, here is where we're going everybody follows you or are you more of a facilitator, john

boehner used to talk about working the wheel of the house. >> i was not elected dictator of the house i was elected speaker of the house. that means we do it in a bottom up approach. we reach consensus as republicans we have common principles we need to take those common principles 'ploy to the problems of the day through consensus to show the country a better way forward. it's my job to lead to that consensus but not to dictate that consensus. >> dickerson: one of the things you used to write about when you were budget chairman, seems ages ago, you talked how bigger government was possibly smashing community in america. that's a bigger philosophical vision. do you see your job as speaker to make that case? >> i do see my job as speaker, i'm redesigning this job. i don't think it can work going forward like it's worked in the past. i can't pick up where john left off. it has to be done differently. and my colleagues agree with that. i think that's one of the reasons why i was elected speaker. i do believe we have to be bold, we have to show who we are, what

we believe. when you're asking abut communities i spent great deal of time and thought about this. i think big government displaces civil society. big government makes it harder for communities to come together and heal our problems. so, that to me is incredibly important dialogue we're going to have to have whichs how do we attack the root causes of poverty. how do we deal with reintegrating displaced communities so that people can build better lives for themselves. >> dickerson: you went out, talked to addicts, talked to people down on their luck, you won't be able to do that? >> i'm to go keep doing that because i think we need to go out in our communities and learn, learn from people who are successful at actually fighting poverty getting people back op their feet. i think we need another round of welfare reform to move people from welfare to work so that people can make the most of their lives i'm going to keep doing that. >> dickerson: you may have to do differently, still going to sleep in your office? >> i am.

i just work here. i live ingansville, wisconsin. i work here from dawn until about midnight. i sleep in my office it's very convenient. >> dickerson: may hof to get the cigarette smoke out. >> i'm going to sleep in my regular offers. >> dickerson: you have young children. what did you tell them? >> we have lot of talks about this in the week building up to. this and i told them that i'm still going to be home on saturday and sunday like i always have been. what we do on saturdays i do my kids sporting events, sunday is family day that's not going to change. mine can go to commute back and forth to wisconsin every week. the way i look at this is don't you think that people in this country want citizen legislators. don't you think people in this country want their representative in congress living among them, understanding them. going to the same kinds of trials and tribulations, raising families that they do. that to me is where citizen legislature should be like. i don't see myself changing.

>> dickerson: will that change the way the house works? you're the first speaker to have little kids in a long time. >> electricity will make it much more efficient. it's a younger breed here in the house. when i came to congress i was the youngest person, i think we were 28 years old. there was is newer, younger breed of members from both sides of the aisle who have families and so i think that that's a good thing. i think having new blood, young people here often fresh ideas is a good thing. i want to continue that kind of process. >> dickerson: anything else you've carved out that you say, i don't care what being speaker does i'm going to keep doing this. >> of course, i'm going to keep camping, mountain climbing, keep hunting. i told the security detail that human scent not good for bow hunting. i won't go into details, but i have to keep life normal. i have to keep life real. i think they understand that.

>> dickerson: have you got to the point yet where you've said, hey, this job that i maybe didn't want it's going to be fun? >> i think i crossed over that -- crossed over to, no. to reluctant. to if i have to, to actually i think this could be very exciting. the reason why i'm excited about this job is because i really believe we have an incredible opportunity to offer the people of this nation a better way forward, a very bold 'general d. this is what people deserve. most people in this country don't think we're headed in the right direction. i certainly believe. that we ought to show people how we do things differently that's exciting. >> dickerson: tell me about the cross over moment. >> i don't know if it was a moment, this met mortician over few weeks, talking with my colleagues listening to my fellow republicans in congress about their concerns, their frustrations with the way things that have been done in the past what i realize asked, reflected my own thinking, reflected my own frustrations with the way business has been done in congress. this is a new day, we're riping

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dysfunctional republican party and that remains. it remains a party that has a very, very strong ideological bent not only inside but outside. and the outside influences constrain what i think are the majority of reasonable pragmatic republicans which is why frankly the ryan budgets which sets forth his visions of what he wanted to do were never implemented by the republican party in the house of representatives. >> we'll come back after commercial talk about paul ryan and few other things, stick with us we'll be right back. i haven't seen you since that tv quiz show. hello, watson. you can see now? i can recognize people, analyze images and watch movies. well i wrote a few books, did a speaking tour, i... i've been helping people plan for retirement. and i help doctors identify cancer treatments. is that all? i recently learned japanese...

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>> dickerson: but for most of you we'll be right back with a lot more face of nation including more with the number two democrat in the house, steny hoyer. and our panel, stay with us.

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