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,, >> today on "face the nation" it's donald trump's party now. the republican nominee is set and hillary clinton has more work to do but the battle has begun. we caught up with the democratic front-runner and asked about her campaign against donald trump. >> i'm not going to run an ugly base. i'll run a race based on issues. don't feel like i'm running against donald trump. >> donald trump has a different view. he's already launching attacks upon both clintons. >> she's married to a man who was the worse abuser of women in the history of politics and hilary was an enabler and treated these women horribly and some of those women were destroyed not by him but by the way that hillary clinton treated
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them after everything went down. >> is that the road to success? we'll talk to our political panel about the general election landscape six months out and can trump unite the republican party behind him or do republicans have to join the party of trump? >> this country which is very very divided in so many different ways is going to become one beautiful loving country. >> plus, conservatives weigh in on the new era. it's all ahead on "face the nation." good morning and welcome to "face the nation." i'm john dickerson. we sat down with hillary clinton friday with a lengthy interview about her general election strategy and whether it was time for bernie sanders to get out of the race and the latest developments on the fbi investigation into her e-mail server. >> you said donald trump is a loose cannon and dangerous. are you suggesting he's not of sound mind? >> i think being a loose cannon
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means saying that other nations should go ahead and acquire nuclear weapons for themselves. when that is the last thing we need in the world today. being a loose cannon is saying we should pull out of nato. the strongest military alliance in the history of the world and something that we really need to modernize but not abandon. i think saying that he's a loose cannon really focuses on some of the statements he's made which i find concerning going back to torture, killing terrorist families which would be a war crime and those are just some of the concerns i hear people talking about which i think does fit the definition of a loose cannon. >> but you're not making claims about his underlying stability? >> i'm talking about what he has said in this campaign and continues to say and the kind of
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agenda he's putting forth for our country which obviously i think would not be in the best interest. >> what do you take away from the republican race now that it's over? >> well, i have to say the republicans themselves are raising questions about their presumptive nominee. and i think that's in large measure, john, because they do understand how hard the job of being president is. when you have former presidents, when you have high ranking republican officials in congress raising questions about their nominee i don't think it's personal so much as rooted in their respect for the office and their deep concern about what kind of leader he would be. >> you've said that he should be asked hard questions now that he's in the general election
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essentially. give me three hard questions you think he should be asked. >> when he says americans don't need a raise and he doesn't believe we should raise the minimum wage what's that based on? because if you look at the evidence and more than evidence if you listen to the stories as i have now for more that be -- than a year of so many americans that haven't had a wage it raises issues on how well he understands what's happening in the economy to working people. >> so his answer would be he want to create jobs and those jobs will raise wages. so he just has a different view. >> well, he doesn't have a view, he has a slogan and needs to be reall really pressed on that. when he says climate change is a chinese hoax what's that mean? has he talked to a scientist or is it a slogan. when he says women should be punished for having abortions what's that mean and how would
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he go about that or rounding up 11 million, 12 million people which would entail the most comprehensive police and military action inside our borders that is imaginable and you combine that with what he's said about foreign policy and recently economic policy when he said he'd renegotiate the national debt. maybe he just doesn't understand that running our government is not the same as making real estate deals. that putting the full faith and credit of the united states of america at risk would be a horrible outcome and it was raise interest rates, it would wipe away savings, it wall cause a global financial meltdown. people need to be pressing him and i don't think people get maybe in the media so far other than the response which then is not follow up on. >> one of the things people said
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about this race either with respect to donald trump or to your race against bernie sanders is specifics and details -- voters want what they want. and details and specifics sometimes are brought out there and discussed and fact-checked and yet people still want the candidate they want. >> i can only tell you my experience which has led to my putting out specific plans saying how i would pay for them and as we sit here today i have 3 million more votes than senator sanders and 2 million more votes than donald trump. so clearly there is a constituency for a candidate who says, look, we don't just diagnose the problem we offer solutions for the problem because i want to run on an agenda the people of america can hold me accountable for and you can go to my website and read my plans to make college affordable and the affordable care act and
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what to do about climate change and create more manufacturing and clean energy jobs and what i laid out and how i'd pay for any new initiative. at the end of the day i really believe that americans take their vote for president seriously because they know it's not only the president but the commander-in-chief who they are selecting. and i have a lot of confidence in the common sense of the american voter and i'm going to continue to talk specifically about what i will do, draw co contrast with my opponents and specifically donald trump. >> when people look at what a general election might be like and we'll get to the democrat race but donald trump has high unfavorable numbers and see you with unfavorable numbers they think it will be an ugly race. why are they wrong? >> i'm not going to run anning you ugly rate
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>> i don't feel like i'm running against donald trump. i feel like i'm running for my vision of what my country can be and to knock down the barriers that stand in the way of americans getting ahead. i've heard about those. i've said -- sat across the table from so many americans and been in large and small crowds and people grab my hand and talk to me about how hard it is to make ends meet and their child has an addiction problem or they can't afford college i know what is really wracking the hearts and minds of americans. i'm going to stay focussed on that and hope that's what the voters will want to hear. >> your aides talk about republicans for hilary. they think with donald trump getting the nomination it opens a certain republican voter to you that may not have gone to you before. how do you get that pitch. what's the pitch to them?
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>> i'm reaching out to democrats, republicans, independents, all voters who want a candidate who is running a campaign based on issues. who has been willing to put out plans and explain those plans and talk about how to pay for those plans. who has a track record of getting results for people. who understands though we live in a dangerous world there's nothing we can't meet in terms of the challenges we face if we put our minds to it and so i think for a lot of people again who take their vote seriously and who really see this as a crossroads kind of election i'm asking people to join the campaign and have had a lot of outreach from republicans in the last days who said they're interested in talking about that. >> you said recently in 2008 you could have kept going but you knew barack obama was going to win and you kind of got out of
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the way. it sounded very much like you were trying to lead senator sanders to the exit. is that what you were trying to do? >> i was talking about my experience because i think it's a useful reminder that i was much closer to then senator obama. we were neck and neck and his lead in the delegate numbers was smaller and i'm 3 million votes ahead of senator sanders and nearly 300 pledged delegates ahead of him. he has to make his own mind up but i was heartened to hear he would work seven days a week to make sure donald trump doesn't become president. a see a great role for him and his opportunities to be part of the unified party to move into not just november to win the election against donald trump but to then governor based on the progressive goals he and i share. we both want to raise the mi
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minimum wage. we both understand you have to rein in bad actors in wall street and corporate america and we is the same goals and hope to unify against them. >> in the investigation into your e-mail server. apparently the fbi's contacted your team in terms of talking to you. what can you tell us about that? >> no one has reached out to me yet but last summer, last august i made it clear i'm more than ready to talk to anybody anytime and i've encouraged all my assistants to be very forthcoming and i hope this is close to being wrapped up. >> so nobody said hillary clinton we'd like to sit down and talk to you from the fbi. >> not at this point. >> if there is this moment where voters are look in a general election context and looking at view versus donald trump some voters may be paying attention in a different way. what is your answer to those who
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think gee, fbi inquiry. that's a big deal. what do you say to them? >> what i've said many months. it's a security inquiry. i always took classified material seriously and there was any material marked classified market or received by me and i look forward to being this wrapped up. >> what have you learned about this? >> well, it's a mistake and i've said and will say it again it seemed like a convenient idea at the time that wasn't. i always take classified material seriously. there's no argument about that and i will continue to do so. i am within whatever parameters are required for the president a know a little about >> is there a broader lesson that comes from the process? >> well, if you don't keep
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learning you'll stagnate and just not move forward. i know i've got to do my very best to answer any questions raised about me in any context. i've been doing that for 25 years so i do have a lot of experience with it but i also think it's fair anybody that is vying for president be asked the same questions. i have 33 years of tax returns in the public domain and donald trump won't release his tax returns and his claim they're being audited by any analysis doesn't hold up so what's there and he owes it to the american people and the president and to us to make sure those kinds of questions are posed to everybody. >> a general election voter will know when hillary clinton is in the office and a convenient option arrives maybe she'll think twice about it? >> as i've said many times it was absolutely permitted and i
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did it and it turned out to be a mistake. it wasn't the best choice and if you look at though the very difficult decisions that i was involved in even as secretary of state putting together the sanctions on iran that led to the negotiations that put a lid on their nuclear weapons program and ending a cease fire between israel and hamas you can look at my record and see that we just past the fifth anniversary on bin laden. i have a serious and focussed approach to table care of the nation's business and i did it as center. i did it as secretary of state and you'll even find a lot of republicans when i was in those jobs were saying nice things about me. >> there's a piece on foreign where he suggests donald trump is pulling away from you on commitments abroad. is part of the campaign for you making the case for why the american states has to have an
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active role overseas? >> well, i'll certainly stand up for what i think american values, interests and our security require i don't see donald trump having any kind of coherent policy or theory of national security. he kind of makes statements i find concerning whether it's about nuclear weapons or torture or anything else. so i think the burden is really on him to try to make a case why when you've had 70 years of american policy under both republicans and democrats trying to prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons why he is so cavalier, even reckless and dangerous in how he talks about nuclear weapons. >> secretary clinton thanks so much. >> we'll be right back with our panel.
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national editor of the cook political report and jonathan martin the political correspondent for "the new york times." we were talking about open convention and then boom, donald trump is the nominee. >> it seems that way. unless something totally crazy happens and the delegates try to change the rules and deny trump which seems unlikely at this point it's now donald trump's party and that has become a huge shock to a lot of folks in the party. why this week there was so much uncertainty to do about trump is that cruz would stay in the race through california and they could figure out how to approach a trump nomination then boom, tuesday cruz is out. wednesday kasich's out and they have to say how do we respond,
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what do we say? do we endorse him, hang back or not endorse him. you saw the confusion last week. >> paul ryan is the speaker of the house and not ready to embrace the nominee essentially of the party yet you've got the chairman of the party saying everybody should come together. is this as jonathan said a lot of this coming faster than people thought or is there a genuine -- >> i think there's a genuine break in the party and i don't think the party will look the same in 2017 as today. there's a break on ideology and tone and styles that been brewing. this is not new to the republican party. there's been factions fighting with each other for quite some time about the direction and tone of the party. donald trump didn't invent it but he walked into the room filled with gasoline and threw a match on it and it's exploded and people have to decide where they end up. paul ryan said he'll protect his
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members for what could be a difficult fall in districts and saying this is where i am in the party. i'm standing over here. trump want to be here fine but this is my part of the party. >> i wrote a pete for -- piece for the federalist where there was a limited government and the things paul ryan stands for and a new branch of european style identity politics. now paul ryan has to make a decision for himself but he's looking out for his own members defending them because he can take it within the context of the criticism and that's a role he'll have to play for them likely through the fall if trump runs a campaign that actively undermines their agenda. >> it was a pretty extraordinary week for the republican party. if you're watching, three from the last four guys you voted for president saying can't go there and the fourth looked not too happy about saying he'll be for the nominee.
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you looked at the speaker of the house saying what he had to say. i would suggest that at least in the short term this week might be peak anti-trump moment. just because the pressure is what the pressure is, he has a job to do in uniting the party and you'll see more and more members put to and members of the establishment and congress put to the test swallowing and going down the trump road. >> the assumption was the safe place politically to be was to be behind trump but he's made it more difficult in his behavior and what he's saying it's clear he's not changing his approach. this is somebody who only knows one song and that's what he'll play. if you're a republican and you see him mock those for not being a true mayor and calling names and paul ryan offers critique.
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he lashes back. if you see that behavior and already said you endorse the nominee you have to be feeling uneasy this weekend. >> let's take a look at something donald trump said recently about women that gets at the unpredictability john was just talking about. >> she's playing the women's card. she's going did you hear that donald trump raised his voice while speaking to his woman. i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i mean, all the men were petrified to speak to women any more. we may raise our voice. the women get it better than we do, folks. they get it better than we do. >> hillary clinton said she's not going to run a negative campaign against donald trump but he's running one against her. >> well, she has great options which is she doesn't have to. she'll have a lot of people doing it for her and donald trump is her best hope there. if you look at where donald
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trump is now with women voters we keep talking about this over and over again, he's had minus 75%, 79% in favorability rating but hilary is doing 20 points better with white women voters than obama did against mitt romney. however, i did sit down with a focus group of women voters in suburban philadelphia and pittsburgh and they're not in love with hillary clinton and many are finding an easier way to excuse his behavior than to accept hillary clinton. >> but he just seems to me to make his women situation worse by the day. he's got three arguments against hillary clinton. one seems to be a strong argument which is crooked hilary and the others that she's not qualified or only there because she's a woman is insulting i
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think not just to hillary clinton but to other women hearing it and the argument that we can't even talk back to or saying anything about women because they have it better than us. not going to work. he i think we're seeing the contours of this election come together crooked hilary versus dangerous donald but he'd be better to concentrate on crooked hilary and leave the other stuff alone when it comes to women. >> it seems right now the problem is unifying his party. he seems to give the indications that is i'm going to win despite those opposed to me. normally after parties have fractious elections the divide is over ideology not whether your wife is ugly or your dad killed j.f.k. >> and your husband's a philanderer. >> and now politicians are
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looking at trump wondering they'll be on stage with him while he says something like this and they'll have to defend him. that's something for politicians in the long game. in the short term there's going to be pressure but the more he says these things -- >> he's making this a moment for the republican party. >> meaning everybody has to speak up and say are you for or against. >> how do you feel about this comment and this comment and this comment. >> we'll hold that there and have more comments from you and our panel discussion. stick with us. we'll be right back. transit syhly... and morning chitchat... less interesting. transportation can work better. with xerox. thank you for calling. we'll be with you shortly. yeah right... xerox predictive analytics help companies provide a better and faster customer experience. hello mr. kent. can i rebook your flight? i'm here! customer care can work better. with xerox. wait i'm here! mr. kent?
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>> welcome back to "face the nation." we're back with ruth marcus and amy walter of the cook political report and jonathan martin of "the new york times." will we have unity by the end of the week? >> i think trump is making it harder for ryan. the most telling point this week was donald trump reacting to paul ryan. he said he wanted to hear more about trump's convictions and instead of responding he responded way paper response and
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trump is proving he's unable at least so far to make the pivot that some folks were talking about and if ryan does this it will be for purely partisan reasons. trump has made clear he's not going to change his mind. he told us he is not going to change his agenda to satisfy paul ryan because the people want his agenda not paul ryan's and their agenda's are totally different. on tone, certainly ryan and trump differ. so what's the rationale? >> trump has the most recent validation from the voters. >> what jonathan says is right on trade and entitlements and down the line. paul ryan is on the opposite end of issues from donald trump. >> the troubling aspect is if trump has a path to the presidency and i believe he does it requires him to appeal to an economic agenda further left than where he currently is
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appealing and why i believe you saw him shifting on the minimum wage conversation and things of that nature that will lead to more breaks with ryan down the line to make it harder and harder to have the agendas paired up against each other. one from the house republicans and one from the nominee of their party. >> amy, what do you think the electoral map looks like with a general election. does he put those states in play. >> you can go to our website for the electoral votes because what she is able to cement in the new map is -- in our map is the states like virginia, north carolina and she also holds on to the russ belt states. the challenge is the national journal did a great look at this and they did a study and dug
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into the voter files if we gave trump every vote mitt romney won in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin and added on top of that every white voter who doesn't turn out in 2012 and don't turn out consistently he would still lose those states because they're not monolith. there are not enough white working class voters even in russ belt states to win the nomination. now, does it help him win a place like iowa and new hampshire? perhaps. but the big, big states with the electoral votes, florida, etcetera, those are tough to win with just white vote percent >> what do you think of the idea of a third party. mitt romney has been talking about running as a third-party candidate. do you think there's anything in that? >> no. i think it's sort of good therapy for the people in the republican party who are
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understandably concerned about trump as the head of their party to be talking about but the practical realities of getting on the ballot or hijacking another party to get on their party just don't make sense and the implications probably of who gets elected there and helps and hurts probably don't make sense. >> meaning it would help hillary clinton. >> it would help hillary clinton and what republicans want to be consumed with that and ratify what amy said about the maps, the problem with the theory of trump can expand the map is the places he can expand the map have a shrinking pool of people he can appeal to. those white working class voters are diminishing. >> i certainly agree with you it's a challenge but i also think in the conversation about the third party side one aim is
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to prevent the candidate to get enough electoral votes and it can throw it to the house of representatives to what happened in the early 1800s or just wanting a candidate on the ballot so republican voters who are opposed to trump will turn out supporting party tickets. >> we also have to recognize there's challenges too for hillary clinton. and i think what she's very good at is she's a good fastball hitter but donald trump isn't going to throw fastballs. he's going to throw a lot of junk he's filing the ball down and hitting those is harder >> the clintons will be forced to account for affairs with other women in a way they haven't for a long time because trump will keep bringing it up again and again and again. and the question is with bill clinton being an important surrogate how do they respond. how does president obama respond
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when he's asked the question too? he's going to be part of the conversation and trump will ensure that. a junk ball, exactly. >> hillary clinton told you she didn't feel she is running against donald trump. she will sure feel that way by the end of the campaign but for donald trump to constantly bring up bill clinton's affairs will be like it turned out for republicans in impeachment not a winning argument for him. >> it does create more of an u uncertain campaign. the junk ball approach. it's not familiar for her. >> and running in a purple state barack obama won and there's craziness at the presidential level. what am i going to do? >> that's the real question they're all dealing with and they haven't figured out the answer. i think you'll see something that looks along the lines of what you saw in 1996 as it got closer to the election people started talking openly about
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election splitting and keep a president trump or hilary honest and it's going to be a difficult thing for a lot of republicans running and who are currently having to make a decision about their own path going forward. one more point though on the democratic side. it's fine to say that hillary clinton is better positioned and she certainly is at this point but the ideological divide proved to be more significant this time around with bernie sanders' success. >> they're all getting on board. >> i think it will be interesting to see how many young voters find it difficult to be turned out by hillary clinton in this election. i think it will be something she'll have to work on. won't happen automatically. >> thanks to all of you. we'll be right back.
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donald trump very conservative, very moderate, so-called nonestablishment figures and the same ideological mix very much opposed to him. i think fundamentally the problem with donald trump is huge and vast but it's fundamentally an issue of character. when people look at donald trump and see how he treats women and see his views on foreigners and lack of personal self-control and meanness, this week he was back lying again and said he had extensive conversations with marco rubio about being president and never spoke to him and it's those fundamental character issues many will not get past. >> the hillary clinton brigade will run on morality and figure which i think will be a tough
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lane for them. your husband was impeach and she's been caught in scandal after scandal. i would say to jennifer and others get real. we criticism republicans for running on emotion and here's the facts. in america we elect democrats or republicans to the presidency and you have to make a choice. you don't get to have your perfect candidate. we had 17 of them and now we have our candidate. is he better or worse philosophically than hillary clinton. he's clearly for conservatives the better choice. >> he's unfit for the office. >> the constitution doesn't say that. >> he is unfit. he believes we should sprinkle nuclear we haves in the east and he is unfit and republicans have a chance and a choice. that's why it's this arrogant attitude that have you to be with me because i won the states is wrong. they have the choice to stay
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home. secondly they have a choice to form a third party and it's much more possible than many in the media believe. >> leslie, let me ask you, conservatives for a long time have had to look to john mccain and mitt romney and told that's your nominee, you deal with it. why is it fine for donald trump to say paul ryan i got more votes and veterans, you deal with it? >> i think to some extent he's got a fair point but people want to be invited to the party and feel there's not a communication to anybody at the campaign. as a matter of fact it's an anemic campaign that doesn't have recognizable faces or political operatives that know how to run the infrastructure of a national campaign. let's just talk about winning and in the governance. what would that look like to that point but i believe bridging the two together there can be another alliance 2.0 that can work in terms of solidifying
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what the solutions could actually look like. mitt romney never did that and nobody knew what he was talking about in 2012 and you can tether what donald trump is policy. >> you're a bridge builder. jennifer mentioned the character question. for a long time conservatives have talked about the personality with people like barack obama and they've also talked about the role a president has in the culture. where do you think donald trump fits into voters who have made a big deal on that over the years. >> that's the problem. one of the key aspects of conservativism is to say character matters and it has a role to play in our culture and pol politics and we have a republican party ready to surrender on the culture wars and join the other side. what we have in the donald trump phenomenon and the hillary clinton phenomenon is an embrace
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of the moral and cultural decadence that conservatives have been saying for a long time is the problem. so when you have conservatives saying in the previous clinton era that character matters, rightly so, who now are not willing to say anything when we have this sort of reality television moral sewage and conservative who's previously said we have too much awful can cultural rot on television who now want to put it on c-span for the next four years and give a model to our students with either candidates as an amoral vision of america that isn't what we believe in. >> is the rebuttal about the court? that donald trump would pick somebody who would put conservatives on the supreme court and -- >> that's true. it's about the other branch of government but it's about something else which is there are a lot of republicans increasingly large numbers who have grown discouraged on the
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republican strategy. i want my president to be someone we can look up in his character and stance on issues but we've somehow lost republicans and conservatives across the country sending washington a message, it's broken. it's not working. we're willing to try something else and for all of you who think it's a third party option i appreciate you're a journalist but the deadlines are past. texas is going to be past in a short period of time. no one will be elected on the right without texas and the last time we tried this was ross perot. >> the answer is to just start keeping up with the kardashians because you've been disappoint in the past. >> the leader of an organization that's the conservative is a bizarre position you're taking. you're simply saying we're without conviction. this guy has the vote so we're
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going to follow him. there are candidates and elected officers like paul ryan that got into politics because the content mattered. it's not just about winning but it's a false hope. it's a false hope you can win with the demographic reasons we talked about. he maybe gets new working class voters but the people he's losing overwhelmingly are women and hispanics and married women and cannot win with this formula so chasing this will get you neither. >> we're talking about the media game projection of what can happen in november and we're in may and we realized how wrong we were in the perception. i think a lot of ground can be made up depending on what the trump campaign moving forward. it's a serious think. i think this week when he had taco-gate, what i'm calling it, he took a ridiculous photo
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eating a taco salad from trump tower and said the best taco salads are in trump tower. >> so celebrate cinco demayo. >> it's a mexican effort not hispanic. it was tone deaf like going in the boston or irish neighborhoods with a green bowler. it makes no sense. >> though they do mention beer as an irishman they do mention beer now and again. >> it's not the 1960s where you had viva kennedy and the beer fest busses coming out. we've moved a long way from that. the real critical point in 1999 george w. bush went out to iowa with spainish print ads and that was seen as risky business. if we cannot get it together in how we talk about an inclusive party it will be obsolete moving
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forward. >> what does trump do? how does he fix some of the challenges he has? >> i agree with many things leslie is saying which is he has to court people. he's said things patently offensive to all sorts of people and has to recognize he won't get them all back but has to do better than what he's doing with conservatives and republicans and bring in record number of independents. i we're focussing on republicans but 30% of bernie sanders of supporters don't want to support clinton incorporated. there's a transformation of politics on both sides and what i hate seeing is elitists in washington d.c. who turn to the candidate who will have the most republican votes in the history of the primary system where our turnout is up 63% and they look at all those people across america and say, no, we know better. we're going rig the system and find a new candidate. stop. you're hurting the whole agenda. >> it's not the system it's
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saying we don't have to go along. may have gotten the votes, that's great. get your nomination but we don't have to vote for you. listen, when have you 84% of the republican party behind you you'll lose overwhelmingly. it doesn't need -- >> jennifer, we haven't had a vote yet. you think it's all over. it's not over. >> there was a worry during the george w. bush years about the evangelicals that stayed home. is that a worry here for donald trump? >> it completely is when you look at under 50 evangelicals saying we cannot in good conscious support either candidate because what we end up with at the end of the day is one party that is hostile to everything we believe in. now, the question going on right now is what then do we do. i think there'll be some conservative evangelicals
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because they feel the supreme court is on the line and feel guilty and others won't vote in the election or find a third-party election or write-in candidate. not because they feel they'll win but feel there's something more in politics which is one's conscious. >> the supreme court i think is a phony issue. we don't have any idea the kind of justice donald trump will support. look at the people he surrounds himself with. you believe him? he changes his mind three days out of four. he's unreliable and unpredictable. it's not one seat. there may be others and do you trust this man? >> i think it's really important to keep in mind it's going to be a comparative election. it's not an isolation. it's against hillary clinton the presumptive nominee and you talk about flip flops let's talk about open border and amnesty.
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there's a lot of frustration and anxiety with donald trump but there is open ground with border enforcement. he's picking up conservative democrat latino who's are former military. it's mixed. >> what about the unpredictability point. i'm a republican running in a purple state what do i do? >> ted cruz won his district by double digits and he's got lots of members coming to talk to him i don't want to be ignorant to the fact that donald trump has serious issues with republicans. let's put them on the table and deal with them but at the end of the day in america there's a choice here and any republican or conservative that doesn't stand with donald trump as a nominee is simply helping hillary clinton. the country's going to be in scandal. it's how they play the game. if you care about the second amendment or the unborn or size and scope of government, if you care about the supreme court, it's not a perfect choice but
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have you one choice. if you want different choices move to a european country. >> unfortunately we'll have to go here but we'll have you all back. for the movement we have to go though so thanks for being with us. we'll be back in a moment with a political look at moms. stay with us.
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>> finally today a word about motherhood. now matter how partisan or tough things get in politics it's okay to praise your mother. george washington or abe lincoln is quoted as saying all i am or hope to be i owe to my angel mother. franklin roosevelt lived under her roof and still she sat next to her son during his first fireside chat and delivered her own address to the nation on mother's day and richard nixon gave his tearful address to his mother. >> nobody will probably write a book about my mother, well, i guess all of you would say this
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about your mother. my mother was a saint. >> president obama often refers to his single mother and gand grandmother who decide at the end of his campaign. >> she's a quiet hero we all have across america who are not famous, their names aren't in the newspapers but each and every day they work hard. >> and now we have a mother and grandmother running for commander-in-chief. >> when you're out campaigning, are you following the example of your mother or thinking about the example you're setting for your daughter and granddaughter. >> i think about my mother a lot of because she campaigned for me and with me in 2008 and was the most formative influence in my life and her encouragement given her own difficult life to get back up when you're knocked down and to serve people and to think
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