through the year of mercy designated by pope francis, going on now through novemb 2016. throughout this year are focusing on the mercy of god and how wes christians are called to receive and witneo that mercy. in the past episodes we have explained what this year of mercy is all about, different events for people to engage in wha call the works of mercy, as well as activities occurring throughout the archdiocese san francisco where people can n about and engage this year of mercy me fully. today we have a special guest, bi william justice, who will be reflecting on ho prayerfully enter into this year of mercy ando allow that prayer to become action! ##### segment 2 -

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who will be discussing withe how we can prayerfully enter into this year of mercy and we can allow that prayer top us respond to the jesus' invitation to love our neig and to share the mercy of god with another. bishop william justice is a native of massachusetts but has been a northern californian since his family moved west in 1946 when he was four years. bishop justice graduated from st. gregory elementary school and serra high schoo san mateo and later from st. patrick semi in menlo park. he was ordained to the priesthood in 1968 and served as a young priest in number of san francisco and san mateo couy parishes. since then bishop justice h been pastor of st. peter and mission dos parishes in san francisco and all souls parh

in south san francisco. he has also had since this, bishop justice has been pastor of st. peter in san francisco and also a parish in south san francisco. he's had various administrative appointments. in 2008 he was named auxiliary bishop. welcome bishop justice. it's a pleasure to have you here. >> thank you it's good fobb here. >> so this is the year of mercy. pope francis' words were so inspiring to us. you've said god's mother cisco endures for of. when you heard pope francis declare this has the year of mercy was there anything that

stood out for you and anything that you were inspired by? >> yes, i think the thing that was most inspiration montrezl to me was the pope calling us to remember was that was the core thing we need to live out in our lives and for priests and bishops to minister in a way that's healing, forgiving, caring and that is mercy. god's mercy enduring forever. that's really, i guess when i look back that's what intrigued me to become a priest, i think. i wanted to help people. i wanted to share god's mercy with people. that goes way back to 1960 when i entered the seminary. that's always been with me that each person, each part of our

parishes and world needs god's mercy and that i enjoy and love to share that mercy. what happens is they give you mercy back. it helps me to be a better person and priest. >> yeah, the people's response to pope message and so many message, especially this one of mercy, has had a huge impact on people. they've been responded to heart felt to it. are there any words of pope francis that inspires you or stands how to you that you're carrying with you this year of mercy? >> i think number one is his challenge say that is the beating heart of the church is mercy, that if we have anything we should have heart. we've got to have heart, the

old song. in that, mercy is the way to share that. it isn't necessarily, you know, the most beautiful church. it's great if you have that but how are we share the heart of god that we need in jesus christ which is mercy. that sticks with me. >> yeah, those words of pope francis that mercy is the beating heart of the gospel. i think right away when i hear that i think of the images of the sacred heartment i remember the first time i was in rome and there is this famous image of the sacred heart that they're going to put up but that image and so many others like it, that's what i think of when i think of mercy as the beating heart of the gospel.

in the catholic tradition this image can also been startling yet this is what we're called to be, first and foremost to put forth the love and put that first and foremost in our ministry with other we do and say. one of the most beautiful churches in pair vice to celebrate the revival of french catholicism and one of the images is the sacred heart. the beating heart. >> it seem that so many people are carveing for that message of love which is at the core of the gospel. jesus said the most important commandment that i'm going to

give you the love one another. this is the most important thing. >> i think that leads to the dignity of the person, the dignity of the group, the dignity of the nation or whatever, is mercy comes and it is there because respecting that that person is a creature of the lord, a creature of god and that in christ we meet the face of god. >> right. >> in seeing jesus preaching, challenging, healing, forgiving, giving mercy and in dying for us and in rising that we might have life to the fullest, we touch the dignity of each person and there is a

relationship going back and forth with each person and god's love and beating heart there. definitely and to extend that love. it takes a lot and a certain prayer life. how to do that? we're going to talk more when we come back after this short break.

. welcome back tuomo sake. we're journeying through the year of mercy. i'm talking with bishop justice about how we can enter into the year of mercy and allow the

prayer to transform into that motion. it's not just the pope's words but also because of the hart that he brings to it. you can tell there is an inferiority with him. so many times i'm working with adults 18-40 and i know, within that ministry and many others in the catholic church, when we're working with people i often hear the question, how to pray. it's more to learn how to pray in a way that transforms us. i think a lot of people struggle with that. you can learn the arafat, the hail mary, learn the words of it and you can learn that the mass is a prayer and learn the words and actions of that. you can learn all of those things but without this inferiority that i think pope francis is such a good example

of, i it can all become very meaningless and hollow. that's when i think a lot of people go to mass and feel it's still also, you know, how do we bring your heart into that and cultivate this interior life. how would you share with our viewers what is prayer and how do you begin to cultivate a prayer life? somewhere along the line someone gave me an image of prayer that i just love. it's sort of siting down with jesus or the father and having a cup of tea with him or a glass of wine or a beer, or chocolate chip cookies and milk or something. it's a conversation between the god who made us, who loves us,

who fills us with his spirit and ourselves. god is love and where there is love there is god. as john says, i think it's the first john, you have nothing to fear. people who are afraid are not filled with love yet. so just to be able to relax with god, maybe it might be on a hike or maybe it might be a beautiful fenn much in a national recreation area or it might be in your room or whatever. just to relax and be here i am lord, i come to listen to you. one thing also said was that if you are having tea or a glass

of wine with god, the thing to remember is that god may have some things to say to you or us that might being a little more important than what we have to say to god even though we're important. so just listen. you can pick up @ ñothe scriptu and read a list little passage like the lord st. louis my -- is my she heard. it could be reading scripture until something clicks. it's like lord, here i am. even though i walk through the deepest darkest valley i feel no evil for you are there with

your rod and your s, the aph to give me courage. one teacher said the staph is to pound on the ground to say you're not alone in this darkness and the rod is to hit them on the rear end so they don't run backwards, run forward. always forward. that's part of prayer, to walk in the valley darkness but knowing there is love and giftedness. then there is the liturgical prayer. >> i love what you're saying. first and foremost it's a conversation with another being, god. it's being more dynamic than a human person that we can't control.

i think that's hardest part about it, too, to respect the other part of god. he truly is another being. just sit with god and be in awareness. i remember the first time i tried to do that. it was disarming because it was so used to fill the space with thoughts and my needs and concerns so really just to sit with god and allow god to be god and just sit there. it's like the old story of the priest that goes into the back of the church that's empty. he sees the guy stareing up for days and finally he interrupts him and he finally asks what he's doing one day and he said i look at him and he looks at me. he's just sitting in the

presence of god. i think that's such a hard first step of prayer to get to that place. maybe the first part is that conversation that you were talking about. i think that resonates with so many young adults 18-40. imagine just siting down having beer with god. it is like that, getting close to that friend but more than a friend, it's god. also, i think what happens, and the challenges, if we let god love us and speak to us in that conversation then hopeful lithia empowers us to go out and see the grandeur. i think it's st. ignatius. it says the glory of god is the human being fully alive.

if you like to play soccer or tennis or going to a beautiful spot and just -- like when you see yosemite from inspiration point, wow! just let that come into you. that can also bring you when you see human beings being injured, where you see people being treated like slaves or whatever then that can say that's wrong because i touched the grandeur of god. >> and we can response to it in the most appropriate way which is what we're going to talk about when we come back, having that mercy and sharing that with god. join us after this short break.

. welcome back tuomo sake. with me today is bishop william justice. we're continuing our journey through the year of mercy. we've been talking about how important it is, whatever works of mercy we engage in, to have the interior spirit of prayer and bring the prayer into it. i often think about when st. paul uses the metaphor the body of christ that we're all different members. people will hear about different needs around the world. some want to go right away, some people, you know, try to pray for people here from where they are. i think how you respond is actually, if it's motivated by the prayer you can't go wrong. it is through prayer that we can discern how it is god is

calling us to love our neighbors. in early portions of this mosaic we talked about how this year of mercy being decried by pope francis, we're called to be the missionaries of the mercy. >> missionaries, yes. >> how do you understand god's invitation to us to live that mission in the world, understoods that we first have to have it rooted in prayer. how do you understand that? how do you understand that call from pope francis? >> well, in the prayer for the year of mercy that the pope approved and wrote, he says lord jesus christ you have taught us to be merciful like the heavenly father and have told us whoever sees you, sees him. jesus shows us your face and we

will be saved. that's what i see is that in prayer filled with the holy spirit, we're able to see the face of jesus through scriptures and see it more deeply, his call to be of service and recognize the dignity of each human being. the call that we are our brother's keeper in the best sense of that and someone is keeping us. then that pushes us out to be in service, to put into action the mercy, whether it's -- there is a young couple i know that just had their first

child. they're still goo-gooyet you can see without sleep it's wearing. the father said but it's worth it, she's so cute. that's a simple way of putting i don't mind doing this but even though you'll be glad when this part is over. it's praying and knowing there may be no reaction in going out and caring for people. it's the father's face that is full of mercy. >> there are moments, like as a new parent, but you know it is worth it and worth what you are sacrificing then there are other people, it's really hard to see that and more so, at least for me during this year of mercy, it's been a real challenge that i've been

wrestling with, the people that are the most difficult, sometimes, to see the face of christ in for me personally because of whatever i have going on in my own heart, it's hard for me toasty dignity yet i'm called to love them and share that same mercy with them. i think even in this climate, we're coming up on an election which is always really heated and can be so difficult yet i feel the conversation is changing too. you hear christians talking about how do we love one another better in this process? >> i think a good example of that is the first few months of the pope's papacy, he flies to the island where so many people were fleeing from africa and in

the middle east to get on the territory so they may have hope of a new life. he goes and speaks to them and hugs them. he put, into action, that mercy and then also with the, you know washing of the feet. it took the prisoners and it didn't matter that they were from different faiths, some were women, some were men. just that whole sense of caring and then, you know, bringing back the last island he went to near turkey and brought back a family, two families, or was it three? it didn't matter that they were muslim. the basic reason was they had all of their papers and they

could go. now they're being cared for and there was an action, putting it all into mercy. >> thank you so much bishop justice. there are so many wonderful examples from pope francis and definitely thank you for sharing this time with us and helping us to learn how we can develop an interior life to help us see god in one another. thank you all for joining us and we'll be praying for you during this year of mercy.

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