7:26. have a great day. the west. it is monday, july 11, 2016. welcome to "cbs this morning." thousands take to the streets fro test the shootings of two african-american men by police officers. in baton rouge, dozens were arrested during violent confrontations with police in riot gear. police say the dallas sniper planned a larger attack before ta fast tracking his assault on officers. and how they ended the standoff, did they go too far by delivering a bomb with robots. your world in 90 seconds. the suspect had been practicing explosive

detonations. we're convinced the suspect had other plans. more details emerge about the dallas shooter. >> you were in on the decision to use a bomb in the end to kill the shooter. tell us about that. >> we asked him, do you want to and we're going to take you down. he chose the latter. >> dozens of protesters arrested in baton rouge, the city where alton sterling was shot by two officers. more than 100 protesters were arrested in st. paul, minnesota. rocks and fireworks thrown at police. protesters turned into criminals. i'm absolutely disgusted by the acts of some. not all. president obama cut short an official visit to spain sunday, so he could personally honor the dallas police officers. whenever those of us who are concerned about fairness in the criminal justice system attack police officers, you are doing a disservice to the cause. a bull gores a matador.

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welcome to "cbs this mornin morning". new and larger protests against police killings have erupted in cities across the country. they follow the deadly ambush of police in dallas, hundreds of people formed a human peace sign overnight across a los angeles intersection. in philadelphia this morning, protesters are blocking streets around city hall. in baton rouge, heavily armed police arrest dozen overnight, protesting the killings of 37-year-old alton sterling. front page, "a showdown." david begnaud is in baton rouge. >> reporter: good morning. here at police headquarters, we're hearing 50 people were arrested and most of them were from out of town. they were trying to get onto the

interstate and we heard they were hurling bottles at officers. at one point, a woman offered the officers sanctuary. this morning she is calling the officer's actions appalling. >> heavily armored riot police moved into this neighborhood sunday evening, some people standing in protest, were pushed back by an armored vehicle and arrested. >> you are the only ones in this crowd. put your guns down. >> they got physical with people who stood in the street to demonstrate the killing of 37-year-old alton sterling nearly one week ago. sterling was pinned to the ground and shot during an encounter with two police officers last tuesday. for more than an hour, police order the protesters to leave. >> you must leave now.

>> when they didn't, even those invited to stand on private property, were led away in handcuffs. t confrontation came to lisa batiste's doorstep. >> i was appalled. i was stunned. i couldn't believe what they were doing. they actually swept the yard, came onto the porch, and i said this is my home. i don't want you you here. they were pushing. it was wrong. it was not their right to do so. i'm not okay with that. >> but lieutenant jonny dunnam says the protesters broke the law. the crime was trying to get on the interstate. >> the crime was blocking the roadways. you don't break the law and then try to retreat to a safe space. there is no safe space. >> reporter: also over the weekend, a well-known activist was arrested, deray mckesson was

standing in the street and they repeatedly asked him to leave but he wouldn't. he claims his arrest was unlawful. alton sterling's funeral is set for this friday. both officers involved in his death are on paid administrative leave this morning. >> thanks, david. a minnesota police officer has a broken vertebrae after weekend protests turned violent. at least 20 other officers were also injured during saturday night's unrest in st. paul. demonstrators were protesting the deadly shooting of philando castile by officer jeronimo. the presence of a gun in the car, attorney says it had nothing to do with race. castile's fiancee is calling for a federal investigation. dallas police say the gunman who killed five officers after the deadly police shootings had an even bigger attack in mind. police headquarters in dallas has become a center for healing. people are leaving notes and flowers at two cruisers left in front of the department.

michael smith, lorne ahern. they're working to decipher a cryptic message before he died. dallas police headquarters is tracking the investigation. >> reporter: good morning. thursday's rally began at a city park from we're standing. they thought the rally would remain there, but demonstrators started an impromptu march along main street. as the crowd moved, the shooter managed to stay ahead of them in a black chevy tahoe before he launched his attack. police are convinced micah johnson planned and practiced thursday's deadly military style assault. the army veteran so-called move and shoot technique puzzled

responding officers. >> we got a guy with a long rifle. we don't know where he is at. >> while trying to negotiate with johnson for two hours, police said he was laughing, singing and asking how many officers he had killed. dallas police chief, david brown, confirmed johnson would only speak with a black negotiator. >> during that talk, it didn't matter whether he was black, because he was shooting at us. >> reporter: unable to reach a resolution, they launched a robot, with explosives to end the standoff. >> the suspect is deceased. as a result of the detonating the bomb. >> reporter: police say johnson wrote "rb" in blood. they're looking at his home he shared with his mother.

items including a journal, and an arsenal two years in the making, including guns and bomb making materials, enough to cause devastating effects to dallas and the surrounding area. >> we're convinced the suspect had other plans. >> reporter: chief brown says johnson had been practicing explosive detonations. >> we believe the deaths in minnesota and the deaths in louisiana just sparked his delusion to fast track his plans and saw the protest as an opportunity to begin wreaking havoc on our officers. >> reporter: they're trying to determine whether anyone may have had prior knowledge of the attack. johnson reportedly trained at a local self-defense school in tactics like hand-to-hand combat. so far, investigators say they have not found any links between johnson and violent extremist groups. >> manuel, thank you. dallas will honor its heros

at city hall tonight. victim's relatives will join the family to mourn the lost officers. the sniper shootings mark the deadliest day for law enforcement since 9/11. omar villafranca is live this morning at baylor. >> reporter: good morning. one theme emerging from the aftermath of the attack is family. from wives and daughters, remembering loved ones to police officers rallying around one of their own. heidi and mike smith were living the american dream. she is a teacher, he was a police officer. on thursday, heidi's worst nightmare came true. >> the hospital chaplain put his hand out to me and i knew. >> reporter: sergeant mike smith was dead. before he went to work, without fail, mike always said goodbye to his daughters, victoria and caroline. >> i was always at least give

him a hug before he left. >> reporter: but on thursday, something was different. >> he said to me what if this is the last time you ever kiss me or hug me. >> reporter: did he always say that? >> no, it just felt different to me. i thought something bad was going to happen. >> reporter: 32-year-old patrick zamarripa, 40-year-old michael krol and 43-year-old brent thompson were also killed in the attack. jorge saw three members of his unit shot down. >> i had people close to me, people in my unit, friends, brothers go down next to me. within feet of me. >> reporter: the officers died what they had sworn to do, to protect and serve. >> they had no regard for their own life. they stayed there with us. they surrounded my sons and i.

>> reporter: one of two civilia civilians shot they ignored the danger to rush to her aid. >> i'm so sorry they lost their lives. but i'm thankful. i'm so thankful. >> reporter: late last night, el centro college confirmed two of its officers were injured in the deadly attack. corporal brian shaw and officer john abbott, both sustained injuries from the gunman. shaw had bullet fragments lodged in his stomach, and abbott was injured from flying glass. despite their injuries, both officers went back to the scene to help protect civilians and fellow officers. >> all right, omar, a lot of pain this morning. we're thinking about caroline and everybody else in dallas today. president obama will speak tomorrow at a dallas memorial service for the five officers that were killed. vice-president joe biden and former president george w. bush

will also attend. the president returned from europe last night, a day earlier than he had planned. his press secretary he'll focus this week on quote, addressing the racial disparities in our criminal justice system. flags are flying at half staff until tomorrow night. we have the response to the dallas ambush from chip. >> reporter: good morning. the president was in europe over the weekend to try to alleviate tensions. now he'll try to alleviate tensions here in the u.s. president obama touched down on the white house late sunday night, cutting short a foreign trip to address america's latest violent tragedy. >> i would like all sides to listen to each other. >> reporter: after meeting with spain's acting prime minister, mr. obama called on black lives matter activists to reject violence, calling it counter-productive to their cause. >> i want all of them to

maintain a respectful, thoughtful tone. because as a practical matter, that's what is going to get change done. >> reporter: but the president also said law enforcement could help alleviate tensions by acknowledging protesters frustrations. >> there are legitimate issues that have been raised. and there is data and evidence to back up the concerns that are being expressed by these protesters. >> reporter: the president said the nation has come a long way since the civil rights movement and gave much of the credit to basic american values en shrined in the constitution. >> because of the that ability to protest and engage in free speech, america over time has gotten better. >> reporter: the president once again brought up the issue of gun control. he said if americans care about the safety of their police officers, they can't pretend that issue is irrelevant. gayle. >> thank you, chip.

vice-president talks with scott pelley tonight on the cbs eng news. on "face the nation" yesterday, former new york mayor rudy giuliani. >> when you say black lives matter, that's inherently racist. >> well, i think there are -- >> white lives matter, black lives, asian lives, hispanic lives matter. it is anti-american and racist. >> political director and moderator john dickerson joins us. >> good morning, charlie. >> what did you make of it. >> it depends on what he means by black lives matter. there is the movement and larger movement for social justice. the protest in dallas is called black lives matter. it is not clear what he means. what he seems to mean is that the black lives matter phrase is about black lives matter more. the black lives matter is the argument that black lives should

matter as much as. that's the disconnect. that's not an uncommon disconnect that he was speaking to there. >> that's why it is so frustrating, john. anybody in the black lives matter has never said that black lives matter more than yours. no one has said that. they're trying to bring attention to the cause that a lot of black, unarmed men are being shot by white police officers. and it is frustrating, i think, because people think dillon roof who did the shooting in charleston, south carolina, killing nine people, james holmes who killed 12 people from colorado, wounded 70. both white people, were both arrested, and not killed. you're thinking how are these people able to survive and an unarmed black men are being killed? it is very difficult. >> well, i think newt gingrich is the one who has in the last few days said that there is an -- white people thinking about this idea -- if you take

newt gingrich approach, you're under estimating the threat from police, then you begin conversations that in certain communities, young black men feel a sense of threat. that's what newt gingrich was talking about. giuliani was trying to push back saying there is an over focus, and that's what those in the african-american feel like there is also been too broad a brush in defining the black lives matter movement. >> there is a certain responsibility by politicians and former politicians to make sure the facts are clear. he said on your show yesterday that the real danger is that 99 out of 100 times other black kids are going to kill them. that's not true. >> well, yes, there is a fact issue in this entire conversation. i think what ends up happening is, you know, rudy giuliani was

trying to push back, while he was mixing, he was also conflating, it is possible that violence in certain neighborhoods can be bad and also possible that there are racial disparities in the criminal justice system. those two things can happen at the same time. >> according to the fbi statistics, 90% of black people are killed by black people. those are the facts. where is the onus on -- >> the issues need to be addressed. >> where does that conversation come from? >> well, where the conversation comes from at least from rudy giuliani, if you focus on black lives matter, you -- you can focus on both. when you're talking about the police, you're talking about a specific instance in which they're uses force, and that requires certain limits. that's a separate conversation from the violence happening in the african-american communities and mixing them only clouds the issue some people would argue. >> we want to talk about

politics as well. what about the president, is this going to be a political issue? is this going to sharpen and are people going to be responsible. all of us are frustrated. not you. everybody. >> yeah. >> what is the the president going to try to do? >> the president, this is a very tough for him, because he is trying to do two things. yesterday, when you saw the secretary of homeland security with commissioner bratton in new york, they were sending a clear message, we're not anti-police. but he also wants to speak to the legitimate fears he sees in the african-american community. >> john, thank you so much. >> to be continued. dallas police say the criticism after killing the sniper had the debate over robots with we are off to a beautiful start this monday morning with clear skies over the pyramid in san francisco. we do have a little bit of patchy coastal clouds developing along the coast. for the most part, plenty of

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you're watching cbs this morning. this is a kpix 5 morning update. good morning. it's 7:26. today the blue ribbon panel that formed after a racist texting scandal rocked sspd gives its final word on transparency within the department. the panel releases its final report and talks possible impact at 11:00 this morning. microsoft holds afterafter party today for techis. in an email invite the company promised lots of drinks and the best beats. later it called the note poorly worded. new information about the gunman who killed five police officers during an ambush in dallas. stay with us. traffic and weather in just a moment. ,,,,,,,,

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ah. lin-manuel miranda took his final bow in front of a star-studded audience, including, who, norah? >> charlie rose. >> charlie rose was there. tickets for the final performance going for as much as $20,000, and then right after the show, they say he cut his hair. tweeted it and said, that's how you end a performance. what was it like to be in the audience? >> magical, from the moment that you walked into the theater in respect was such excitement, and -- >> how long was his ovation? >> seemed like 10 minutes before he could even speak. >> i'll bet. i'll bet, i'll bet, i'll bet. >> very, very emotional at the

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over the way they took out the suspect in thursday's ambush. police sent a robot armed with sdplo explosives the kill the gunman and now criticized for using the military-style hardware. >> reporter: good morning. bomb squads will tell you these robots can do pretty much anything a person can do. go up stairs, have cameras and speakers to communicate, and also have these arms. and those arms would typically be used to investigate a suspicious package, but some police departments used them to do things like deliver tear gas. but for a police department to use a robot to kill, that was unprecedented. hours after micah johnson opened fire in downtown dallas he was cornered by police and told negotiators there were bombs around the city and threatened to kill more officers. the dallas mayor says there were no other options than to send in

a robot strapped with the explosive c-4. >> we asked him, do you want to come out safely? or do you want to stay there, and we're going to take you down, and he chose the latter. >> reporter: last june dallas police use add similar bomb disposal robot to detonate pipe bombs inside a suspect's van. models like it can use es explosive, blowing up suspicious devices. operating one of several bomb squads in the washington, d.c. region. chief scott goldstein. do you feel these things save lives? >> these things clearly save lives. they can be repaired, replaced. can't replace a highly trained an experienced member of the squad. >> reporter: but critics say robots like these were designed for military combat. >> it raises a lot of concern about the increased weaponization of robots that police use. >> reporter: peter lasarro is with committee for arms control. >> once i think police

departments have these weapons in their arsenal, it provides an opportunity to use them in a lot of different kinds of scenarios. >> i thought ingenious. >> reporter: this 54-year-old police chief compares the dallas police department's use of a robot to a high-tech version of sniper fire. >> you have a robot with c-4 explosives, someone's got to detonate that. so it's the same as pulling a trigger. >> reporter: montgomery county is one of about 40 fire departments in this country that operates its own bomb squad. chief goldstein says he doesn't see these as killer robots, in part because they're operated by a person back there in that truck and they don't come weaponized. also, they can cost in the vicinity of $60,000 apiece. charlie? >> chris, thanks. brent thompson was the first dallas area rapid police officer ever killed in the line of duty. he was married less than two weeks before he died.

j.d. spillit joins us. good morning. >> thank you. >> as you know, the whole world mourns for what happened in dallas and sends condolences. help us understand how all of dallas and especially its police and d.a.r.t. police are coping. >> you know, it's -- words cannot describe what we're going through, but i must say that the outboweri outpouring of support in the communities and the cities throughout the united states and in our case as far away as canada, london, england, has been absolutely outstanding. i can't say enough about the dallas police department, how we're working together to get through this traumatic event. >> i know, chief it is a very traumatic event. a lot of people, still trying to wrap our brains around what happened. i understand your department was very close. brent thompson had just married a fellow officer two weeks ago. what are you saying to your troops to get them through?

how are you -- what is your message to them and to the rest of us? >> you know, the message is, keep your head up. remember brent. remember how he would want us to carry on, in his absence. a smile, a hug, always a kind word. let's go do it. last night at a candlelight vigil, his partner got up to speak and he considered brent to be a big brother to him, because he didn't have a brother. and as he was preparing to make his speech, it was tough for him to get through it, others were going to assist, he said, i can do it, because that's what he would want me to do. >> the president is headed to dallas. what steps do you think need to happen to help heal the community? >> you know, the president has, he form add task force several months ago, and they came up. it was the president's task force for 21st century policing. in there are numerous recommendations. one of those things is use of force, training, what we have to

change our mind-set about use of force. the other is about training. but then it's about the community. how we relate to the community. the different ethnicities in the communities, and, also, how they relate to us. and, you know, that's a process that we're all going through. we're not there yet. but i can tell you that we are seriously working on that here in the state of texas, and especially here in dallas, and the north texas region. >> have you any understanding of the anger that drive as man like this to do this? >> you know, i really can't, and i was thinking about that this morning as i came in. he was a veteran. i'm a veteran. some of those officers that was killed were veterans. brent was a veteran. three of the dallas officers i know were veterans. that is just incomprehensible and i just cannot wrap my brains around veterans doing that when

we have gone all over the world to put our lives on the line protecting other countries, ensuring their freedoms, and we come home and another veteran kills other veterans who are yet protecting and serving as police offic officers. >> it's also raised very ufr comfortable confess about race in is country, what we need to do and how far apart we still are. what do you say about that, chief, today? >> you're exactly right. this isn't just a dallas issue. >> right. >> this is a societal issue, and it's something that we have got to figure out how to address. i don't have the answers, but i know mayor rawlings here in the city of dallas, as "go oh " players.

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good morning. sounds ominous. >> reporter: it is. pokemon "go" released last wednesday and quickly soared to the top of charts, designed to get game players off couches and explore interesting players in their homes. robbers targeted them using one of the game's built-in features. pokemon "go" advertised as a carefree way to use your smartphone as part of a modern day scavenger hunt. you capture, train and battle pokemon characters that appear in the real world. it's not unusual to find groups of players gathered all on the lookout for pikachu and his friends. >> trying to catch him for a while now. >> reporter: police say criminals are also taking advantage of the game and its players by using a feature of the game called a beacon to attract multiple people to one location. in a st. louis suburb, police say these three teens along with another juvenile were arrested

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this is a kpix 5 morning update. good morning it's 7:56. cal train and its passengers are dealing with delays after a train struck an unoccupied car. it happened around 5:30. no one was injured. this week cal trans will phase in a program in hopes of making a congested stretch of interstate 80 safer and a bit less clogged. the smart corridor project will focus on westbound i-80 to the bay bridge. the project will include metering lights, lane closure warnings and variable speed limit signs. in the next half hour of cbs this morning a capitol hill veteran talks about what the country needs to do to move passed the violence and come together. we'll have weather and traffic in just a moment.

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car key mess in carquinez murdered officers while other cities protest violence by police. we'll ask congressman elijah cummings how to bring both sides together. but first, here's today's eye opener at 8:00. >> it all started with a call that protesters were trying to get on to the interstate. then we heard protesters hurling bottles at officers. >> investigators are trying to determine whether anyone may have had prior knowledge of the attack. heme eme is family. wives and daughters remembering loved ones, police officers rallying around one of their

own. >> the outpouring of support in the community and throughout the united states has been absolutely outstanding. >> the president was in europe to try to alleviate tensions. now he'll try to alleviate tensions here in the u.s. >> secretary of homeland security with commissioner bratton sending a message we're not anti-police. so the president wants to send that, but on the other hand he wants to speak to the legitimacy he sees in the african-american community. >> some police departments have used them to deliver tear gas, but for a police department to use a robot to kill, that was unprecedented. >> take a look at the talent in the stands today. oh! [ laughter ] >> i got it, i got it! [ laughter ] >> i told you we should have brought the glove. picture's worth a thousand words. [ laughter ] i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. dallas investigators are combing

through evidence this morning. they're learning more about the sniper who killed five police officers. notes and flowers fill a memorial site outside dallas police headquarters, prayer vigil took place over the weekend in the city. the gunman was 25-year-old micah johnson. police believe he had plans for a larger attack. they suspect he acted because of last week's deadly police shootings of black men in minnesota and louisiana. >> and the dallas police chief says johnson taunted officers during a roughly two-hour negotiation. officers armed a robot with c-4 explosive to end the standoff. police say the army veteran wrote the letters "rb" in blood on a wall before he died. investigators are now searching johnson's home. they're hoping to figure out what those initials mean. they found a journal containing combat tactics and arsenal containing guns and bomb making materials. >> a vigil at dallas city hall tonight will honor the fallen officers.

brent thompson was the first officer ever lost at the dallas area rapid transit police. michael smith, lauren aarons, michael krol and patrick zamarripa all served in the police department. officer bush wounded in the ambush, he saw three members of his unit killed. >> being there and watch iing, people we see every day, we get to know their families, we get to know them personally at a level that you can't even imagine. we ride around in a car eight, sometimes more hours, stinky, sweaty. you know, everything. and then we go through things that most people don't see in their entire life. you get really close to people. and these were my brothers.

and i -- i hate to say i was frustrated because i couldn't do more. >> officer zamarripa bought a homeless man food during the protest, that was just before zamarripa was gunned down. he said it represents the character of his colleagues who were killed. protests over the police killings of black men grew and spread across the country. demonstrators protested and blocked traffic from los angeles to memphis. police in baton rouge, louisiana, arrested dozens of people. they were protesting the killing of 37-year-old alton sterling nearly a week ago. >> minnesota's sunday protest over the deadly shooting of philando castile were peaceful. that was in stark contrast to the night before. more than 100 protesters were arrested saturday in clashes with police. president obama cut his foreign trip short after the dallas police killings after meeting with spain's leader, the president said all sides need to listen to each other. >> everybody who's involved in the black lives matters

movement, or other civil rights organizations or who are protesting, just as i want all of them to maintain a respectful, thoughtful tone, i would hope that police organizations are also respectful of the frustrations that people in these communities feel. >> tomorrow, the president will deliver remarks at the dallas memorial service for the slain officers. maryland democratic congressman elijah cummings is with us now from baltimore. his city faced riots last year after young black man, his name was freddie gray, died of injuries he received in police custody. congressman, thank you for joining us. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i heard you say yesterday, we don't have time to turn against each other. we have to turn towards each other.

we just heard the president say we all need to listen to each other. can the country listen and hear at this particular time at this moment? >> i don't think we have a choice. i think we are at a very critical moment in this country's history. and with what is going on, with people -- everybody's upset and concerned, but i think we need to try to do what newt gingrich said he's been trying to do. that is he said as a white man he tried to put himself -- it's very difficult, in the place of african-americans and african-american men like me, i'm 65 years old, i know what it feels like to every time you get in your car to worry about being harassed by the police. even now as a congressman. but at the same time on the other hand people seem to think that when one asks for accountability, transparency and good policing, does not mean

that they are not very sympathetic and very concerned and upset when police officers are die and are ambushed the way these officers were. or any harm comes to them. and i think it's a matter of mutual respect. and, you know, one of the things as i was leaving to come to this interview this morning, one of the guys in my neighborhood -- i live in inner city baltimore, and the guy said, mr. cummings, tell me something, when that boy dylann roof in south carolina killed those people at the church, they went and got him a burger at burger king. but yet still the man in baton rouge and minnesota died. and so, i mean, we have to look at both sides of this and try to put ourselves in the place of the other. and i think that people just assume you're going to go to one corner or go to another and then you start talking past each other. but this is a critical moment.

i'm glad that president -- former president bush will be joining the president tomorrow in dallas to address these issues. i think it's so important that we talk to each other and that we continue -- there's nothing wrong with peaceful demonstrations, but i am not going to sit here and beat up on the black lives matter young people because all they want is what our constitution has guaranteed them. and they simply want respect of the police. >> congressman -- >> by the way, there are a lot of great police. >> yes. >> i want to make that clear. okay. >> very important point. >> how do we make it different this time? how do we make sure it goes beyond dialogue? >> well, i think it's got to be a multifaceted effort. number one, we have really got to look at and accept the fact

that there are the young people in the african-american community have a lot of legitimate grievances becaue of basically what they see. this thing called a cell phone and ability to take pictures, they see more what's happening. we have to make sure addressing recruitme recruitment. i talk to police officers every day and they tell you there are people on the force they know shouldn't be on the force. so we have to deal with recruitment. we have to deal with making sure that there is training with regard to deescalation. a lot of times we see in situations where folks, police come along and actually make things worse. i saw that as a trial lawyer. and then we've got to make sure that people give the same kind of respect to the police. by the way, going back to what newt gingrich said, there are a lot of people who have biases and don't know they have biases, on our forces. so we have to begin to, again, i

think the more east side says, you know what, we're going to sit down, we're going to talk, we're going to be honest with each other and try to put ourselves in your place. i mean, that's going to be the key to this. the other thing we're going to have to do is, i think, one songwriter has a song that says it's the soul that needs the surgery. we have to really come face-to-face both police and citizens and say we need each other. and for a policeman to do his job, he needs the cooperation of the public. but you know what, the public needs the police to protect them and serve. >> yeah. >> so we need each other. that's why i say we have no choice. we've got to make this work. >> yeah, the public also needs the police too, i think that's a very important point. the president said america's not as divided as some have suggested. briefly, do you agree with him on that? >> yeah, i don't think that america is as divided as a lot of people think. i mean, the idea that -- when i

was growing up, i never imagined, never even imagined that i would see a man of color in the white house. i still have to pinch myself. and i see and i look at the young children, and they don't say -- a lot of them don't say black or white, that brown person, yellow person, in other words they don't see black and white. i mean, i think a lot of our younger generation is getting past the whole race issue. i think some of us older folk we need to catch up. >> yes, we could -- congressman, you're right, we could learn from the children. you're right about that. thank you very much. >> that's right. >> thank you very much for joining us this morning. >> all righty. >> as congressman mentioned vice president joe biden will join the president tomorrow's service in dallas. before that scott pelley talks with the vice president tonight on the cbs evening news. less than a year after hitting the market, facebook live video is playing a crucial role in life and death scenes from minnesota to dallas. ahead, t

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facebook live, now one of the go-to places for anyone to stream newsmaking video. in minnesota, the girlfriend of a man shot to death by police used her facebook live feature to show th aftermath. the video has more than 5.5 million views this morning. and michael bautista used his smartphone to stream the dallas ambush. his facebook has about the same number of hits.

nicholas thompson, editor of "the new yorker" magazine's website, new yorker.com. good morning. >> good morning, norah. >> at first facebook removed that video of the shooting of philando castile, wa went slew their thinking? >> we don't actually know. facebook live as a medium for news happened incredibly quickly. facebook live launched three months ago and initially people putting rubber bands around watermelons and a chewbacca mask. funny, frivolous stuff. suddenly it became real stuff. facebook wasn't anticipating this. they tried to apply this to the situation and are a little confused as company now. >> might what with this? >> it will become a big news event. now when people think about facebook live they're going to live streaming and live streaming is much more visible than taped video. even if you see it when not live, there's something about the fact it was broadcast that

makes you experience it in a more intense way. i mean, you watched that minnesota shooting and it is extraordinary, the emotions you see as you see that. add in the fact as you watch it, you're seeing commentary of your friends and other people thinking about it, makes the whole experience much more intense and will mp pla phi every news event as we go forward. >> what are the dangers of that? people had a visceral reaction, especially those who knew this man seen literally dying right before our eyes. how can you censor something like this? >> it makes us more impassioned and does that in part because of the experience of watching with your friends. you can imagine situations where people become more impassioned isn't necessarily a good thing, seeing things without context or without the filters you've normally had. in the future, that can -- >> a lot of people say thank goodness she was able to o that. people argue, this is going on

for years now the cameras are allowing us to see it. >> that is absolutely true. you can have situations like that. undoubtedly a positive, and imagine situations in the future it's not clear it's quite as positive. >> you think a catalyst for a lot more of this? >> tons more of this, i think. and situations where we have rational effects, one person streaming it, doesn't really give you the whole truth? right? getting a live stream without context at that moment is a difficult thing. moments where people get enflamed and inpassioned and other moments, where it's the only way to get the story in realtime and that's an incredible thing. >> how do you contain that? >> no idea. but we're going there. >> we are there. thank you, nick. a group of prisoners escape but didn't run for freedom. how they turned from suspects to heroes, coming up flex on cbs "this morning." so the in-laws have moved in with us.

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confrontations, one person saying we need to change the culture. we explain why, this is a kpix 5 morning update. good morning. it's 8:15. i'm michelle griego. today the blue ribbon panel that formed after a racist texting scandal gives its final word on transparency in the department. the panel releases its report and talks possible impact at 11:00 this morning. because it's the 11th of july. you can see a free small slurpee at 7/11. from 11:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. coming up on cbs this morning, representative elijah cummings breaks down how the u.s. can move passed recent police shootings. stay with us. traffic and weather in just a moment.

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good morning. welcome back let's look at the roadways along 880. this accident cleared out of lanes. but there's debris reported in the area. causing slow and go conditions as you work your way out of hayward and fremont. drive times on the penninsula. 101 northbound, 92 to the 80 split. a 30 minute ride. 280 beneath that, it's green. 101 busy off the san mateo bridge. toward the richmond san rafael

bridge. busy across the span. you'll see most of the delays at the toll plaza. it gets better on the 101. but the golden gate bridge, a decent ride as you head into san francisco. not bad out there. >> not a bad picture of the golden gate either. blue skies right now. patchy fog developing along some parts of the coast. but over all sunshine the story for everyone today. temperatures near average in the low to mid 80s for the warmer spots in the south bay and the north bay. mid to upper 80s for folks in the east bay. 60s along the coast bay. this is the beginning of a warming trend beginning through the workweek topping out in the low to mid 90s by thursday and friday of this week. then we begin to cool heading into the weekend. you can also anticipate a fluctuation of coastal clouds throughout the week. temperatures likely staying in the upper 60s all week long. somedays we'll see more cloud cover. other days, sunshine.

elizabeth cook, kpix 5 news. welcome back to cbs "this morning." coming up for you in this half hour, bryan stevenson of the equal justice initiative is here in studio 57 talking to michelle miller. he helps innocent people get out of prison. how the nation can move forward after last week's shooting and the impact of the black lives matter movement. >> a remarkable man. plus, wounds that have not healed. michelle miller takes us to a university crossroads, after a controversial deal to save itself. come to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. britain's daily maris says thousands mourned a matador buried in central spain.

29-year-old victor gorio, his wife in the crowd. the first killed since 1980. >> hard to watch. joe perry recovering today after collapsing during a show. videos show him stumbling around back stage last night here in new york city while playing with the band hollywood vampires. perry reportedly lost consciousness. the 65-year-old was take ton a hospital. perry was sick before the show but is in stable condition right now. and calling the soccer final portugal's greatest night. it didn't start well after portugal's start player renaldo was knocked out of the game with an injured knee. he went from despair to jubilation after his teammates scored the win in overtime. portugal stunned france 1-0 winning its first major

championship. the country is reeling from police killings of two black men and the murder of five police officers in dallas. bryan stevenson is founder and executive director of a nonprofit group dedicated to overturning wrongful convictions. his team represents clients whose cases may be marked by racial bias or prosecutors' misconduct. it helped more than 115 wrongly condemned death row prisoners. stevenson won awards for fighting poverty and fighting discrimination in the criminal justice system, and we are pleased to have him. welcome. >> thank you. >> let's talk about the presumption of guilt. >> yes. we have in this country a history of racial inequality that we really haven't adequately acknowledged. it began during the time of slavery when the great evil for me was not involuntary solitude or forced slavery but a narrative of racial differences. ideology of white supremacy we created and burdened black people with these presumptions,

with these prejudices, and we never really talked about it. the 13th amendment doesn't deal with that, and it was fueled by this era of lynching for decades we tolerated victimization of black and brown people who were terrorized and then we codified a racial hierarchy through segregation and today black and brown people in america are burdened with a presumption of dangerousness and guilt. >> and you believe it has a direct link to slavery? >> well, i do. >> and that inability to somehow come to grips? >> i think our failure -- >> the not understanding of the ramifications of slavery? >> i think our failure to take seriously this problem is rooted in our unwillingness to acknowledge all of the damage that was done by slavery, and the damage that was done by lynching and the damage that was done by segregation. look, i am 56 years old. i've got a law degree from harvard, honorary doctorates,

argued in the supreme court and have been pulled out of my car and police officers have threatened to blow my brains out because of this presumption. it doesn't matter how smart you are, places in this country you are presumed dangerous and this culture is created by a history we don't acknowledge. >> you're saying, bryan, it's so much bigger than we're seeing. people say, that was 400 years ago. why do you keep bringing it um? it's much bigger? >> it is much bigger, yes. she's shootings are symptoms of a larger skidisease. there are few places you can deal honestly with the history of slavery or terrorism. we actually haven't dealt with this and indifferent to victimization of black and brown people, and that problem is a larger problem. it's not just the people shot and killed by the police. it's the people who are beat by the police. it's the people who are menaced and targeted by the police. the people humiliated by the

police. there are hundreds of thousands of black men and women and children in this country that have stories to tell about how dangerous it is when they are encountering police, and it's unfair, to burden black and brown people in this country with the obligates to navigate police encounters' safety. the onus is on you as a black and brown person to say and do things that avoid tragedy, and that's not right. >> when the president says we're not divided as some people think we are, is he wrong? >> no. there are differences and have a real problem and we've got to change -- listened, what happened to the police officers in dallas is unquestionably horrific, and there will be no debate about the wrongfulness of that act. i grieve for those officers and their families, but there should also not be a debate about the wrongfulness of what happened in baton rouge and in minnesota and in too many other places, and there will be a debate. >> is that conversation happening now?

when you see tens of thousands of people, people in protests, in all of these different cities. is there a movement afoot, though, to address that? >> well, there is movement, there is reaction. we have to change the culture of policing. >> how do you do that? >> begin talking differently what a police officer is. too many police officers in this country think of themselves at warriors, not at guardians. you've got to change that culture. if 90% of police training in many of the departments is all about shooting and fighting at not impolicive -- >> do you think that's the issue? a matter of training? >> training is the beginning. our police officers ought to be the most sophisticated people in society when it comes to not being directed by implicit bias, because they're armed, they have responsibilities. they have to be the people we trust the most. not to presume others dangerous and guilty, but that's not what's happening. we have to do training and change that culture. create accountability. >> how do you change somebody's

bias? >> you actually get them to acknowledge when they see someone of a particular race, they're prime to think things that are unfair. and, you know, we've had to change our bias in the climate control area. we used to think it was appropriate to spray things and use fossil fuels but we've learned things and changed our behavior behaviors. i think we're equally at risk by the smog created by our history of racial inequality we've all been breathing in made a sea of black and brown people threatening and menacing when we're just trying to live our lives like everybody else. there are ways if we begin to acknowledge that, we have to create more shame about the police do something remedial. that's not happening in police culture as much as it needs to. >> it's important also not to paint the police with one brush

either. the blacks are being painted by one brush, i think it's important not to paint the police departments with one brush, too. >> i don't think there's no question about, we have thousands of black police officers in the country. there are thousands of police officers who very much of committed to public safety, and that commitment has to be honored by changing the culture in a way that we can trust one another. we've done so little in this country to hold police officers accountable. good police officers want to be held accountable. but when you have the court saying it's okay to lie and cheat, tolerate deception and don't respond as a community, black and white, brown and others, to these horrific shootings of young men of color, we're going to foster this continuing divide. >> thank you, bryan, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for being here. the louisiana and minnesota police shootings have people talking about the future of race relations, but one university is also trying to answer for its past. up next, the school that survived by selling off slaves ,

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more than 150 years after america banned slavery with battle with its legacy. the conversation over race extends to every level of society and includes some of the nation's m

alumni are grappling with that history. you have not attempted to open it? >> no. not in a number of years. >> reporter: cheryl lylynn bran. >> we record marriages. >> reporter: so every important date in a family. >> right. >> reporter: once generations ago, to the whitewashing of history. >> that's what i'm thinking, but i don't know. >> reporter: a history for many african-americans can only be traced back a few generations.

the branches relied on tales told by elders, like this one. of great-aunts traded as the currency of nation-building. >> it's told very young she waved good-bye to her mother on a shore and watched her mother get on a ship or boat, and so she never saw her again. so how did that happen? when did that happen? where did she go? >> reporter: these missing pieces. >> definitely missing pieces. >> reporter: until a phone call from a stranger started to fill in the holes of her family tree. >> so what did you say? >> i listed the names. i said, i'm an alumnus of georgetown. >> reporter: were you suspect at first? >> i was not, because i didn't give him information. he gave me information. he came up with names that i knew from my grandmother's side of the family. >> and like that she said, let's start the whole conversation over again.

>> reporter: richard told branche her great-great-grandparents were part of a group of 272 slaves who in 1838 were sold by georgetown university to three plantations in southern louisiana. near where branche and her brother still live. >> was this the piece of the puzzle you just didn't have? >> well, certainly, my entire identity is wrapped up in the folks who came before me, the things that made us family, the traditions that were handed down. >> this church in particular ministered to their needs. >> reporter: he isn't a historian, he run as software company. after researching his alma mater he happened upon a georgetown slave sale which settled a debt and saved a university. >> sold in 1838 money, which is about $3.3 million today, and that money was literally used to

help georgetown avoid bankruptcy. >> well, hello! >> reporter: he hired baton rouge genealogists to help track down the descendants of those original 272 slaves. she pored through meticulous records kept by louisiana clergymen, priests who baptized, marrieded and even buried slaves who stayed true to the faith. >> your 1847. >> yeah. >> baptized, son of henny. >> right. amazing. >> reporter: lineages in black and white. he estimates there are between 10,000 and 15,000 descendants list living today. >> there's only one thing that separates these benefactors from most of georgetown's other benefactors. >> and what is that? >> it's race. i can see that if somebody had writn a check in 1838 that wiped out the university of debts, there's no doubt in my mind that buildings would be

named after that person. that person would be celebrated, and his descendants would have no problem whatsoever being admitted to georgetown, even down into this day. >> we're saying what is our responsibility today, in this moment? >> reporter: john dejoya is georgetown university's president. >> slavery, part of why it was so awful, was that for 200 years people could not pass on any form of wealth to the next generation. >> right. >> and here is an institution on the backs of 272 people, certainly the debt was paid. could the university offer, you know, legacy status? >> sure. >> it's a tough question. >> it is. these are complicated, for a number of reasons. >> why? >> i believe the fundamental question that we're wrestling with now is, how can we contribute in new ways to ensuring ever-more access and

afford ability to higher education in america for the hundreds of thousands who are not able to access it? >> reporter: he convened a group of students, alumni and professors, which will make several recommendations on how the university should best recognize its role in slavery. he's even plet with some of the descendants themselves, asking the question they've faced for generations. how to pay back that human investment. >> reporter: do you feel as though georgetown owes these families a debt? >> well, certainly. how to collect on a debt from however long ago wouldn't be my purpose, but if georgetown wants to do something, it maybe the benefit for my nieces and nephews and great-nieces and nephews would be wonderful.

it would be fantastic. >> reporter: the university is hoping that by the fall they will have concrete ideas about how to memorialize the 272 original slaves. some early ideas include memorials, campus dialogues and scholarships, but most importantly, this story is part of a larger conversation about equality, and they really hope it will continue. >> uh-huh. i read in the paper that historians say this is the first time the president of an elite university has met with the descendants of slaves in this particular case t. is the first time, and jack and john dejoya is adamant aboutown graduates ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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