. good morning. welcome to "mosaic ." i'm rabbi eric wisen. honored to be your guest this morning. faith based institutions provide a wonderful forum for civic life. here in san francisco bay area, we're blessed with the contemporary jewish museum. i'm so happy to introduce you to lori star t executive director and gravity goldburg, the associate director of public programs welcome. >> thank you. >> great to be here. >> let's jump in m. what is new at contemporary jewish museum? >> the museum has so many things happening all the time. we happen to have a lot of

exciting exhibitions and public programs going all through the seasons. you know the museum in the beautiful jesse square. it's a building designed originally was a power station that gave light to san francisco. it was reinvigorationsed by the jewish -- reinvigorationsed by the jewish -- reinvigorations reinvigorationsenned by the jewish architecture. it's for everybody, not only jewish people. it's everybody from every walk of life. we have a number of great shows and new exhibitions coming up. i wanted to share with everyone the beautiful lamp of the covenant. he's made this wonderful chandelier that hangs from our ceiling that's a reflection on

the relationship between human beings and greater power out there, the great unknown. in some respects ethical monotheism, what's written in our door. it's a very inspired sculpture. you'll see globes, lights, animals stuck on there we invite all visitors to enjoy us in wonderful and enjoyment looking this the piece. >> the cop temporary museum -- contemporary museum most know are on the square center. the contribution i think of the cjm is really the ways in which it provides an innovative peak and exploration into the arts in general. i'm wanting to talk about some of the things that really are kind of on the cutting edge in

the jewish community as well as the broad per community. there's a way of convening, conversation, dialogue around our culture and where it meets up with jewish. the museum has changing exhibitions. we don't have a collection. that allows for us to be nimble. for instance, this summer we have the great stanley cooper exhibition. most people don't realize stanley was a jewish person born in 1928 raised in the west bronx of new york and went onto become one of the greatest directors of film and influencers across many media of all time. all summer long and into the fall, we will have fantastic public programs. several have looked specifically at stanley's jewish influences. gravity can speak to that. >> sure. thank you. on july 14, in the past, we had a program on jewish perspective.

it brought together three form her scholars, really the only scholars who studied the films through a jewish lens. it was a wonderful conversation. we filmed it. we pod casted it. you can listen to it later and watch it later. you can check our website. cjm.org. go to our sound page page. >> stanley, most well known for clock work orange. what were his other pieces that were -- >> sure. 2001 is often said to be by people who knew stanley very well to be his most jewish film. although some of our scholars say all his films are jewish films. the 2001 fill new mexico particular, one of the scholars who was here stayed friday and gave one of our gallery chats which are short talks in

galleries we have every friday afternoon. he gave it on 2001 like an interpretation of 2001 asking questions of our 100th person gathered in the gallery audience like where in 2001 do you find the ten demandments. >> fascinating. we'll have a quick break and come back to a conversation with lori and gravity in a moment. please join us back here on "mosaic ."

good morning. welcome back to "mosaic ." i'm rabbi eric wise.

lori and gravity are here. thank you so much gravity and lori for being here. there's a wonderful way in which the museum in its nimbleness collaborating with other institutions both jewish and seck lure. i know there's an amazing program in october with our own san francisco san francisco symphony. >> that's right eric. we call it around town. we've had screenings at the draft house and cultural center. we are so excited about october 13, 14, 15. the san francisco symphony is full orchestra, performing live to a screening of 2001 space odd i did. not to be missed. >> folks can go on the website and get more information? >> indeed. >> october 13, 14, 15. >> once in a lifetime opportunity to see on the big screen. 2001 with the amazing score performed live by our san

francisco symphony. >> just incredible. >> i also know you are really renowned for restricting world renowned -- retracting world renowned artists. what's he doing for you and with you? >> we have a wonderful exhibition on view. it's on view through the winter holiday. family time, lots of fun. it's called nit con who's one of the great public artists in the world now. he has projects all around the world. his work is really based in how nature does its thing on landscape and in the environment. he proposed a piece to us which we were so excited about. now it's in our gallery. it's called a giant spinning wheel of sands from the desert that perform the most amazing movements and colors and flows that if you just stand there and

look at it, you're mesmerized we mesmerize by the qualities of nature. ned is talking about the desert. the desert is where our great jewish stages have gone to contemplate. the desert is always changing yet always seems the same. the desert is also a place of incredible environmental activity. sands blowing from across the world. all the stands mixed together. we're so excited about the piece. he also made a smaller wheel for kids to spin. we have fantastic public programs coming up. gravity can tell you about that. >> yes, please. >> sure. i want to mention our family programs are very vision -- very vigorous and robust for our department. there's a gallery guide for this manuel you use in the gallery to interact in different ways with

the ideas of the exhibition. also, they're doing a bunch of mindfulness workshops. they're asking you to come in the gallery and draw in on nature and mindfulness. >> you remind me every cultural institution as part of the core looks how art interacts and society and how there's a dynamic dialogue. education, whether symphony or ballet or museum, the contemporary jewish museum thinks seriously about the education component of art. usually it's focused on a particular current exhibit. i want to know if you can give a peek into, how do you think ability the educational aspect of the art piece focused on any particular exhibit. in this case, the piece on the wheel. you were talking about ways in

which that is educational for folks. how do you think about education and art? >> sure. that's an incredible question. it is demanding. there are many ways into that. i think depending on which museum you're programming for you answer that differently. particularly for the contemporary jewish museum, think about two parts of our audience. i think about our bay area community which has a very specific interest and concerns and talents and things that exciting them. of course our jewish audience. going back we had a panel on jewish cuberick. there was a sold out program with people looking at his filmings looking forwards the futures of technologies, and the human condition. this is what people in the bay area want to hear about.

it excites them. that's really how we go about programming. we think how are we connecting? what does our audience care about? of course the answer to that is different for every exhibition. >> we are so diverse here in the bay area. thank you so much. we'll take a quick break and come back to "mosaic" in just a moment.

. good morning. welcome back to "mosaic ." i'm rabbi eric wise than morning. i'm joined by lori and gravity. welcome back. >> thank you. >> i know the museum also pays attention very exquisite to notions of identity development. it forms by cultural memory that goes beyond any individual person's life. so, i'm wondering if you can

talk about the exhibit you know is coming up that has the theme attached to it. >> yes. we are very excited about an original cjm exhibition it's been in the making a couple of years now. it's going to have a scholarly catalog. it represents 24 different artists from all over the u.s. and actually 15 countries over all. either born in different countries or american but from this country's heritage. the name of the show is from generation to generation, inherited memory, in contemporary art. we know the determine from generation to generation particularly in the reform judaism movement. it is something we sing and say for instance, as we pass the

terra from parent to child. this motion from generation to generation, this is the calling for jews and all people to remember who they are and to keep their heritage and faith alive. we have take than concept from generation to generation and actually applied it to the concept of inherited memory in contemporary art. so memory can be inherited and passed down from generation to generation. most of us think of memory in terms of our own family narratives. the core of our exhibition starts with second and third generation jewish artists who's work talks about their own inherited memory of the showa. >> showa is hebrew word for holocaust. the real nucleus of the show

comes out of this inherited memory of the trauma of the holocaust which many artists who happen to be jewish or other walks of life who's families experienced the trauma of the holocaust carry with them and make art from. >> as we continue to talk, we have a few photographs. let's show those as we continue to talk about hit. >> this -- about it. >> this gives a taste of some of the show. so many artists from so many backgrounds. not only jewish. there's works from african-american artists, artists from south america, artists from the american south talking about the civil rights movement. in other words, it's an inclusive exhibition that looks at inherited memory across many identities. of course it starts with the jewish. it opens out much wider.

>> so incredible. gravity -- lori was talking early one of the uniques features is it doesn't have a permanent collection. it gathers collections from anywhere else in the world. also, initiates its own original collection at the museum itself. i'm wondering, can you give us a peek into the thinking process of how do you come up with an original originating exhibition that doesn't exist any place else? >> well, that is what our curators do. they have interests and sort of look around the world. things capture their attention. from generation to generation, it was scholarly adventures our curators embarked on and connected. they sort of found the seed idea of inherited memory and thought it was interesting and wanted to

push at it and see how it might develop into an exhibition which it did then. >> then inspired by the work of a particular scientists named dr. hersh. it's about post memory. one can have memory that's not only your own. it's a deep dive by our curators into this very subject. >> we're going to take a quick break. how interesting internally you function on inspiration which have in turn you hope to stimulate by the exhibit himself when the museum comes a beautiful circle of inspiration. join us in a moment as we come back to "mosaic ." plars have healthier lungs? totally. i did. did you know that boys that play with dolls make better husbands? my son has lots of dolls. but did you know terry cloth diapers breathe better?

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good morning. welcome to "mosaic ." we're in the middle of a wonderful conversation with

lori, director of the museum and gravity, associate director of public programs. welcome back gravity and lori. we were talking about ways in which the museum negotiates the artistic experience. i wonder what the museum is up to. >> from generation to generation, we are commissioning an original work by the soprano heather kline. we have a long relationship with heather. this piece is really connected to the core ideas of the exhibition generation to generation. it tells the story of her grandmother rosa ginsburg who was a shanghai jew. she came over to the united states and was held for a period of time before she was released to come to san francisco. heather grew up not knowing the story of her grandmother.

after her grandmother passed away, she started looking through her belongings, and this story started to emerge heather was fascinated by it she did research, went to angel island, tried to track this story of her grandmother. she forced it into a musical piece. >> fascinating. we should say for those that don't know, before mainland china became communist, it was a vacation spot for many that lived in russia. among the russians were jews that came to shanghai for vacations. during world war ii, of all things, shanghai was a safe haven for eastern european german jews that came to settle. jews that went to shanghai and then to united states were called shanghai jews. angel island, so her grandmother

came from shanghai to united states. >> uh-huh. >> fascinating. and does she work with the museum on her pieces or go off and do her artistic experience and come to you and say, here it is. is there an artistic dialogue as she develops and? >> heather in the past said i have this idea with contemporary jewish museum. would they be interested in letting me perform this? in all cases he said yes. really did idea is hers. she creates it off site. i believe there's some inspiration the museum has for her to bring this piece to us. >> so really in some ways the museum in addition to all places to create art, not just inspire it, not to display it, but to in

fact create hit. >> absolutely. >> i know you have education programs for families and kids. can you talk a little about what the museum does in that arena. >> lori? >> the museum is devoted to families and children. we've been sited with a wonderful publication from the wallace foundation for all of our work with families. in fact, our museum tracks ahead of national average of family participation. something many your viewers may not realize we have always been free for kids under the able of 18. every sunday we have family programs going on where art gets made by families to take home and enjoy. they're all based upon all heart we make. it's based upon exhibitions families can see together and

enjoy. we also have a destination within the museum called the zim zim family room. it's own wonderful space for kids. hands on activities, puppet theater, light show box. ways to make art together and a viewing station for very cool videos which is -- used to be called god cast. wonderful jewish content. also fun. lots of ways to create fun and get to meet other families and other kids. really feel part of the city and feel part of the community. the great thing coming up we're very excited about in conjunction with the wheel, wonderful pieces by ned. it's evening of elements. it's december 3rd. it's our fame gala. our museum is the first that we know of that originated the concept of a family gala of

coming early after you had your nap if you're 3 years old. you come early. everybody gets dressed up and comes and has an early fun evening at cjm. we call it kids running muck in the museum. it's their museum we like to think of c jam as the museum that belongs to community. we have families come for a fund-raiser for the museum. it helps us support our great education programs, what we do for schools prince. that night is called evening of elements. it's going to be a focus on the wheel. we'll transform the museum space. there will be one space about the desert. one about the ocean. one about outer space. it's really teaching us all together to actually heed a call that's a very jewish value which is caring for the earth. >> thank you so much. believe it or not, we've come to the end of our conversation.

please go to comp temporary jewish museum website and have a wonderful afternoon evening by yourself, date, or family. enjoy the cjm. >> thank you. it will be fun. >> wow.

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