captioning sponsored by cbs >> dickerson: today on "face the nation", president trump hits a roadblock as a federal judge stops his travel ban and a court fight heats up. it has been another whirlwind week in washington as president trump unveils his supreme court pick, took steps to roll back regulations on wall street, and imposed new sanctions on iran. >> it already has been quite an administration, am i right? >> dickerson: but has the administration moved too fast? vice president pence will be here to talk about the first two weeks and the administration plans to fight the judge's ruling. >> new jersey governor chris christie will give us his attempt about the launch of the new administration us in we will get a preview of super bowl li, when contract a, with cbs's own james brown and talk to the nfl

player association demaurice smith about the game and the role politics plays in football. >> finally our political panel will pick out what is important this week, and look ahead to next week. it is all coming up on "face the nation". >> dickerson: good morning and welcome to "face the nation", the i am john dickerson, we have a lot to get to so we will begin with vice president mike pence, mr. pence, mr. vice president. >> thank you for being us. >> let's start with the executive order on immigration. a federal judge has now blocked it, there has been criticism even from republicans who like the policy just don't like the rollout, is it time to start over? >> it is not time to start over at all. during the course of the campaign and since the outset of this administration, president trump has made it clear he is going to use his authority as president under the law to put the safety and security of the american people first, especially when it comes to protecting this country from the threat of radical islamic terrorism poos poses to our families and communities, the

executive order is on a solid constitutional and statutory foundation. one court in boston confirmed that, another court in washington came to a different decision but we are very confident that as we move through the process of these appeals that the president's authority in this area will be upheld and will continue to take such actions as are necessary to put the safety and security of the american people first. >> dickerson: let me ask you about that judge, the federal judge in washington. the president referred to him as a quote so-called judge. now the president can criticize anybody he wants. criticism is one thing, in this instance, the big distinction the president of the united states is calling into question the legitimacy of the judge and whether he has a legitimate role to make the decision he made. is it right for the president to question the legitimacy of this judge, not ruling, not the opinion, not the policy but the legitimacy. >> every president has a right to be critical of the other branches of the federal government, as you noted the

simple fact is i think the american people welcome the candor of this president and the president and the whole administration frankly are frustrated because the law could not be more clear here, john. not only his constitutional authority to conduct foreign policy for this country but clear statutory authority in federal law today gives the president the ability to determine who is given access to this country and who is not. and in this case, the president used a list the obama administration and the congress identified of seven countries compromise bid terrorism, it is within his authority to do it and it is just frustrating to see a federal judge in washington state conducting american foreign policy or making decisions about our national security. >> dickerson: but i want to go back to this word legitimacy because that is different than just having a difference of opinion and the reason i bring this up, and this president has been very sensitive to anyone who would question his legitimacy the last time you were here you and i talked about congressman john lewis

questioning the president's legitimacy and you said it is out of line to question the legitimacy of the president so why is it in line for a president to question the legitimacy of a judge and what a judge is doing? >> john, i don't think he was questioning the legitimacy of the judge. >> dickerson: he calls him a so called judge, how do you interpret that. >> as soon as the order came out the justice department fully complied wit and we went to the court to seek a stay, we are going to, the first of this week go to the court of appeals to not only get the stay but to win to be merits and we are confident we will win in the interests of the security of the american people. this is more -- this is more, i know, john this is more about the president simply expressing a frustration with a judge who is involving himself in the clear prerogatives of the president of the united states. >> dickerson: but when the president speaks my words matter and i guess the reason also is when i talked to the president, and he was just a candidate in february of 2016 he talked about president obama's executive order on immigration and he said this to me. quote the courts actually took the step and did something that was very surprising and they did

the right thing, which is to say this court stepped in and stopped president obama's executive order on immigration, so it is good when they stop president obama how can it not be legitimate for them to step in and pause in this instance? >> well, i think it is a great comparison, john, it is a very fair one on your part. as usual. in that case, president obama was clearly taking action that was within the purview of the legislative branch, congress had not acted in that regard, so he attempted to use executive authority to implement laws the congress had not passed. the president's executive order that this -- that the judge in washington state, you know, issued in the order upending is fully consistent with statutory law that has been passed by the congress of the united states of america. >> dickerson: let me ask about that. >> so the comparison here i think is dramatic and consistent, and that's why we are very confident in the interest of the national security and the safety of the

american people we are going to prevail in court. >> dickerson: let me ask you about congress. i talked a lot to republicans this week again who are on your side on the policy, but they and people i talked to in the administration in addition to american allies, there is a lot of criticism of this executive order and the way it was carried out. any of this criticism valid? >> well, at the outset of an administration that is as busy, keeping our promises to the american people as this one, you know, what we will concede sometimes the usual washington niceties of informing members of congress were not fully implemented as they have been in the past, but i have to tell you, the american people i think are grateful to see there literally the day of the inauguration that we have in president trump a leader who has been taking steps every day to get this economy moving, to put the safety and security of the american people first, to roll back the kind of regulations that are stifling economic growth and on this immigration issue, the president was

determined working with the justice department, working with the department of homeland security to take executive action that would suspend immigration from countries that we know are compromised by terror, it was the right thing to do, the american people welcome it, and i truly do believe, i truly do believe as we go forward we will see the legal foundation of that affirmed by our highest courts. >> dickerson: would congressman mike pence thought these were niceties? let me move on to russia i will play a clip for you and an a interview president trump did with bill o'reilly that will appear during the super bowl and get your reaction of it. >> do you respect putin. >> the i respect putin. >> why? >> well i respect a lot of pep but that doesn't mean i am going to get along with him. he is a leader of his country. i say it is better to get along with russia than not, and if russia helps us in the fight against isis which is a major fight and islamic terrorism, all over the world, major fight, that is good thing. will i get along with him? i have no idea.

>> dickerson: he is a killer, putin is a killer. >> there are a lot of killers, we have a lot of killers, do you think our country is so innocent. >> countries so innocent, do you agree? >> this is -- this is an enormously important moment in the, the role of our nation in a world stage because we now have a president who is reengaging a world from which america has been stepping back over the last eight years, and i have been talking to my counterparts in other countries and i will be traveling to the munich security council in a few weeks. what i consistently hear from counterparts around the world is how much they welcome the fact that president trump is reengaging on behalf of america's interests, leaders around the world in which you heard a in that quote was a commitment to explore the possibility of starting anew and looking for common cause with russia and with president putin, you also heard skepticism there, the president said he better get along with russia, maybe we

won't. it is to be determined and he told the american people this in the campaign. he is absolutely determined to explore ways particularly in confronting and destroying isis to work with russia and that is the spirit of those comments. >> dickerson: when you reengage the world you have to do it with a moral voice and he suggested there, i will quote from brent stevens on the "wall street journal" editorial page who tweeted president trump puts the united states on moral par with putin's russia, never in history has a president slandered his country like this. a president speaks with a moral voice when he is reengaging the country, he suggested that america was on the equivalent par with somebody who was a killer. >> i simply don't accept that there was any moral equivalency in the president's comments. look, president trump throughout his life, his campaign and in this administration has never hesitated to be critical of government policies by the united states in the past, but there was no moral give len city, what you heard there was a

determination to attempt to deal with the world as it is. let's start afresh with putin and to start afresh with russia. look, we face very, very serious dangers in the world. >> but -- >> that's why the united states in many ways has created a vacuum in the world as we backed away from the world stage. the american people see is president trump leaning into these relationships, bringing a healthy skepticism to all of it, particularly when it comes to russia but saying look if we can have a better relationship with russia and with putin and not get -- and not getting lost in the usual debates but to say we are going to take an honest effort. and advance america's interests in the peace and security of the world. >> dickerson: but this is a new debate. this is not an old debate, no one compared the united states to a killer in vladimir putin, this is not the first time the president has done this when he was a candidate on msnbc he was asked whether it was wrong for russia to kill journalists and he said quote i think our country does

plenty of kilogram killing also, when barack obama was in office he was criticized by conservatives for not praising american exceptionalism he never said anything on this par, did he? >> what i can tell you is there was no moral equivalency in what the president was saying. he was simply acknowledging that he has been throughout his life willing to be critical of government policies and government actions in the united states. but we recognize, we recognize the extraordinary superiority of the ideals of the american people and the implementation of those ideals,. >> dickerson: are, is america morally superior to russia. >> what we have in this new president is someone who is willing to, and is, in fact, engaging the world, including russia, and saying where can we find common interests that will advance the security of the american people, the peace and prosperity of the world and he is determined to come at that in a new and renewed way.

>> dickerson: but is america morally superior to russia yes or no. >> i believe the ideals that america has stood for throughout history represent the highest ideals. i was actually -- i was at independence hall yesterday and i snood the very room where the constitution of the united states was crafted, the very building where the declaration of independence was held forth, every american including the president represents the highest ideals of the world. >> dickerson: shouldn't we just be able to say yes to that question? >> i think it is without question, john. >> dickerson: that america is morally superior to russia? >> our ideals and, are officer wrote to countries all across the world, but again, what the president is determined to do is, as someone who spent a lifetime looking for deals is to see if we can have a new relationship with russia and other countries that advances the interests of america first and the peace and security of the world. >> dickerson: i have held you over your time, mr. vice

president, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, john. >> dickerson: and we turn now to new jersey governor chris christie who joins us from his home in then ham, hello, governor i want to start with russia, you said in your campaign america is the strongest moral power for what is good and what is right in the world. given what president trump cash. >> i did. >> given what president trump said about vladimir putin is that consistent with your screw of america's moral voice in the world? >> listen, there is no question in any mind, in my mind that her america is the moral leader of the world, america has to set that tone, and we are going to continue to do that. i suspect through this administration's policies and our approach. so i have no question in my mind that america is morally enter record to russia, and i said that when i was running for president and i said it when i am asked here in new jersey and i am saying it to you this morning. >> and what do you make of the president's comments, not only the comparison on killers but also this question of respecting

vladimir putin, who is the person who is -- in the ukraine, who enter feared in american elections, who has basically broken apart russian democracy, what kind of signal does that send, given what you just said about merge's necessary moral voice in the world? >> well, john, listen, i have known the president for 15 years and i know exactly what he meant by those comments yesterday. he respects vladimir putin because he believes that the leaders of countries deserve to get treated with respect. he wants to be treated with respect around the world, and he believes vladimir putin should be. but it doesn't mean that he agrees with him. it doesn't 19 he won't fight him and it doesn't mean he won't stand up to him and as far as this back and forth with bill o'reilly, let me tell you, i had hundreds and hundreds of conversations with the president over the years. the president likes to volley back and forth with people and when she challenged he likes to challenge back but 0, the fact of the matter is i know president trump believes that america is morally superior to russia, i know he will stand up and be tough with vladimir putin, but i also know he

believes that a world where people are speaking with each other, the dialoguing, cooperating is a potentially safer world than one when we are constantly in conflict. >> dickerson: let me switch do this question about the president's executive order on immigration. do you think this judge has overreached in his ruling? >> i think the judge is wrong on this one, and i think the fact that you have a massachusetts federal judge disagreeing shows the resiliency and strength of our constitution. this is ultimately going to be resolved by the courts as it moves its way up and i want to say this. i think the president deserves great credit in moving from where he began in the campaign, which was a muslim ban, which i at the time said i completely disagreed with, the president has listened to experts and advisors over the court of time when he first made that statement to this executive order which is taylor and direct to try to deal with seven countries that are having a difficult time dealing with their own ability to control travel of their own people and policing of their own people.

i would make it even more -- if i were advising the president on this directly, but the president's, has moved an incredible distance from a muslim ban to where he is now, and the fact is that the reason his opponents are able to attack him and i believe unfairly on the substance is because it was implemented in such a haphazard way in that first weekend, so the president deserves better. the policy is much, much better than where the president began during the campaign. i think that shows he is a president who is willing to listen to experts, willing to listen to advisors and willing to amend really positions in order to keep america safe and have us have good relationships around the world. >> dickerson: governor christie we will take a brief break here and pick up on some of the things you just said on the other side of the commercial, so stay with us.

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when you were u.s. attorney and as governor you worked with muslim americans, because you are -- or at least i remember you explaining you need good relations in the muslim community help with law enforcement and connections to do the business that law enforcement has to do. do you think there is any damage in the way this was rolled out, presented, not really explained that affect that portion and views in the muslim american community? >> well, listen, i think that you know you said earlier in your questions to the vice president, you know, there, they need to start over, i don't think there is a need to start over but i do think there is a need for the administration to make sure they are very, very clear on this. i know the real estate's heart on this. the president has absolutely have, absolutely no hate in his heart for muslim americans, in fact, the exact opposite. this is a president who has great affection for all americans who are here working hard, raising their families and contributing to the fabric of our society, including muslim americans.

but this is what happens when things are not explained the right way from the beginning, and are not implemented in a way that respect it is process and is very careful about it and that's why i said earlier in the week that the president was not well served by this. now this means he has to go out and the administration needs to go out and make sure that they make his point of view clear, but -- the american people -- well, who knows, i am not inside the white house and this isn't about assigning blame. this is about making sure it is done the right way and and so in the end, i believe the president .. deserved better and because i know his heart, and i know what the president wants more than anything else. he wants to keep the american people safe and secure. and that's all the american people, whether you are christian, jewish, muslim or any other religion that we have, listen, john, i am the governor of the most ethnically diverse state in this country, and i understand that everybody has case and concerns, not only about their own ethnicity, their own religious calling but also about

everyone else in america and that's what the president is trying to do here. i believe in his heart on this one. >> dickerson: but let me ask you again about, you know, we talked about his heart but also said this is haphazard which suggests some fallout, you are not without insight in the way he works and at that people around him work. so i am going to try you again on this, whose fault is it and why did it happen? you are not -- you haven't, you have an answer a in your head, tell it to us. >> john, i am glad to see you have esp going for you this morning. the i don't have an answer in my head, john, because i wasn't there. i don't know who the president made responsible, the president has a structure inside the white house with three folks who are predominantly in charge of operations at the white house. mr. bannon, mr. kushner and mr. priebus, so i can't read minds who is primarily responsible for this but that doesn't matter. .. that's the washington game of who are we going to blame? i think anyone who looks at this knows it could have been and should have been done better. we just see people with green

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perhaps in some cases and impossibility to get insurance because every one of them has a preexisting condition. >> dickerson: and what is your feeling about the way things are going forward and what might happen to those with preexisting conditions? >> well, i think like every american, you hear on the front end that there is a plan, i think that it is our duty because he is the president of the united states to find out what that plan is. hopefully, that is a plan that won't bar people who have preexisting conditions, but right now, as we are aheading into super bowl week i can tell you that las last year we had at 4900 reportable injuries in the national football league and we have about 1,800 players who play. >> dickerson: let me ask you about one of those injuries, concussions, the president when he was on the campaign trail made a joke about concussions in the nfl, saying the rules are now quote unquote soft. how do you deal with that, that there is this perception out there with some or at least among the president that the

rules have gotten too soft? >> well, i mean, i don't know exactly when you say who that perception is coming from, i mean, obviously my hope is that the president enjoys football and if he wants to find out just how shot the game s he can come down to the sideline and watch a game and hear the collisions and watch our players and certainly he could swing by any team on a monday and see how our players feel. i think more importantly than us, you know, sparring over words, over whether the game has gotten too soft or not is, let's just embrace the fact it is super bowl sunday, it is a game everybody locals, i know beyond a shadow of a doubt our players want to play but i also know at the end of the day, every one of our players on every one of our teams is going to suffer an injury, and some of those injuries are going to be concussions, some of those are going to lead to long-term consequences and the it seems to me that for an industry that generates about $13 billion a

year, our job should be trying to keep our players as safe as possible, and certainly creating a world where they can afford insurance after they leave the game. >> dickerson: and briefly in 30 seconds what is your view on athletes, football players speaking out about politics? should they? should they use their voice or stay quiet? >> of course they should speak out. i mean, i have yet to find a football player that gives up his first amendment right the moment that he puts on a jersey. if it is something that a mary wants to talk about, i think that is fantastic, if it is something that a player doesn't want to talk about, i think that is fantastic. you know, what i expect from our men is that they are men, businessmen in the business of football, that they love their community, that they are blessed to live in this country. >> dickerson: mr. smith, thank you, we are going to have to leave it there. have a fun time at the game, we will be right back in a moment. >> consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan

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