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captioning sponsored by cbs >> dickerson: stowed on "face the nation." ent trump is son the las g of his 12-day tour through asia and republican party takes hard knocks on the political front back home. at the end of his trip a president not shy about creating enemies was working hard to make friends. first the north korean leader jong-un. >> strange things happen in life. but it's certainly a possibility. i don't know that it will but it would be very, very nice if it did. >> dickerson: the president present a little time with russian president vladimir put in and says he's ready to move on from the topic of russian interference in the last election. >> i believe that president putin really feels, he feels strongly, that he did not meddle in our elections. what he believes is what he believes. >> dickerson: we'll get report
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on mr. trump as trip from vietnam then turn to the news back home as republican race to get tax reform through congress got sidetracked by party politics. following democratic in key states and local elections came a bombshell "washington post" report. alleging sexual misconduct on the part of alabama republican senate special election candidate, roy moore. key republicans say moore should step aside so he doesn't bring down the party. so far moore denies the report and refuses to drop out. >> these attacks are completely false and untrue. >> dickerson: we'll talk to south carolina republican senator tim scott and vermont senator bernie sanders plus treasure secretary steve mnuchin and we'll ask a group of new hampshire trump voters if the president is meeting their expectations.
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>> step it up. >> i still like him. dickerson: we'll have plenty of analysis on all the news all coming up on "face the nation." good morning, welcome to face the make i'm john dickerson. we have a lot to cover both at home and abroad. we begin with cbs foreign affairs correspondent margaret brennan who is traveling with the president, she joins us from hanoi, vietnam. >> good morning. as the president nears the end of the most extensive visit to asia by any president more than 25 years, his relationship with vladimir pout tin again taking center stage of a material the two met in vietnam, mr. trump said putin appeared sincere when he denied any russian intervenes in the u.s. election. >> i believe that he feels that he and russia did in the meddle in the election. as to whether i believe it or not, i'm with our agencies he is especially that is currently
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constituted. >> he made that clarification after having told reporters that the hacking was an artificial democratic hit job. republican senator john mccain says the president was naive to take the word of a former kgb agent over the u.s. intelligence community, which concluded with confidence that the hacking was directed by russia at the very highest level. in a tweet this morning, the president called north korean dictator jong-un short and fat. the president had largely avoided belittle knowledge him while here in the region after an aborted trip to the dmz the president even extended an offer for negotiations to resolve the stand off over his nuclear arsenal. >> the weapons you are acquiring are not making you safer, they are putting your regime in grieve danger. >> beijing earlier in the week, the president asked to cut off any financial support to pyongyang and fame sized only personal admiration for china's leader. during the campaign he accused
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china of raping the u.s. economy. now, he says he doesn't blame beijing for taking advantage of the u.s. trade imbalance. at economic summit in vietnam the president brought his america first message but america stood alone while 11 other countries forged ahead with the transpacific partnership, largest free trade deal in history. mr. trump instead offered to broker bilateral deals with any country in the region but so far there have been no takers. the president is ending his 12-day asia trip in the philippines where he met with the president, a troublesome u.s. ally giving controversial policy of extra judicial killings. the trump administration has made virtue out of not publicly criticizing his human rights record instead describing the relationship between the two presidents as having a warm rapport. john? >> dickerson: margaret brennan in hanoi, thanks so much. we turn now to what is going on here at home and republican senator tim scott, he joins froes mount pleasant, south
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carolina. welcome senator. senator, a number of your republican colleagues, mike lee, steve danes, senators from utah and montana have said these allegations about roy moore require him -- they have unendorsed him. others have said he should step out of the race. what do you think? >> well, certainly the allegations are very, very strong, denial was not as strong as the allegations, i think if the allegations are true, there's no doubt that he should step aside. and not for the party, but for the american people, we have to find a way to restore trust and confidence in our elected officials, in our government. and this goes in the wrong direction. >> dickerson: in this case, though, if the allegations are true, he's denying them. how do you find proof, it seemed interesting about what mitt romney said they looked at the case as presented by the "washington post," that was sufficient evidence for them. >> there's no doubt that the case is compelling. the judge and the jury in this
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case will be the people of alabama, voters of alabama. they will have an opportunity to weighish very clearly and decisively and very shortly. >> dickerson: do you -- what's your reaction to some of the supporters in alabama republicans have said, even if this is true they still support moore. that's voters of alabama having their say. but does that have any affect on the larger republican party? >> well, certainly, i think the reality of it, voters will be heard, we had very good candidates in that race, we had luther strange and others who were a classmate of mine, very fine men. reality of it is that the ripple effect of the republican party is yet to be determined. the truth of the matter is we ought to be a party focused on principles and we should govern according to those principles and find ourselves cross ways with those principles it's difficult for the american people to understand what direction we want to take them. one of the ways that we solve that problem from a policy standpoint is tax reform.
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with this current situation will have to be solved by the people of alabama, voters will be the judge and the jury. >> dickerson: i'm going to move on to tax reform. the senate bill that came out this week, delays the corporate tax cut that the president very much wants until 2019. some white house sources say that this is going to hurt growth that's so important to the tax cut, what's your feeling on that? >> well, certainly when you talk to corporate america the businesses in our country what they say is that the higher corporate tax rate will give them an opportunity to write off many of the expenses that a higher tax rate which makes those expenses, writing them off next year more valuable. but the sooner we get to the 20% tax rate the better off we are, the fact is that only individuals actually pay that tax -- taxes paid by employees with lower salaries, consumers with higher prices and investors with lower returns. so we have to get that corporate tax rate down to the competitive position. we now have the highest
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corporate tax rate in all of the industrialized world. we cannot compete. >> dickerson: well, of course some -- >> at that level. dickerson: dispute that tax because of what corporations can do to get around those taxes. lot of reporting recent leap about tax havens, this bill, doesn't really take care that have people will -- corporations will be able to hide money in tax havens, should legislation be doing more to make it impossible to hide money in off-shore accounts? >> well, the good news is one of the first steps that we take in this corporate tax restructuring is repatriation which says, whatever your assets are, anywhere in the world we're going to have a minimum tax on it immediately of 10% on our plan, 5% if it's not a liquid asset so as to bring those resources home so that we can create more jobs. our business tax restructuring will create somewhere near a million jobs over the next ten years, american jobs created here at home because we're going
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to have an opportunity to be competitive. this is really good news for the average person in this nation that wants to see the jobs of the future created here at home. >> dickerson: let me ask about the average person. there's no question that in this bill corporate tax rates are going down. there's been no study that suggests that they won't. but there have been -- quite a lot of dispute about whether the middle class is really going to get a tax cut, the joint -- community for joint committee on taxation by 2023 the middle class tax cuts will not be around. if this is being sold as middle class tax cut shouldn't there be total certainty about every middle class person with a tax cut no matter what year it happens to be? >> certainly are at place where the vast majority of taxpayers will get tax cut, every single bracket will have lower taxes. reality of is it if you define middle america as 73,000 because it's the average income per household in the country, that
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average household will see their taxes go down by $1500. those folks living in a single parent household, head of household could see their taxes cut in half and folks living in dual household with $117,000 sees their taxes going down. the real question is, when we define the middle class around 250 or 300,000 which is in the top 5% of income in the country, you do have sometimes where 80% of the taxpayers see their taxes go down single folks like myself may see their taxes go up. some instances based on itemization versus doubling the standard deduction and using it. >> dickerson: i think it shows in 202 that at much lower income level that people might see their taxes go up. let me ask you one final question about something that came out of the virginia race. the issue of confederate statues was brought up, you in south carolina of course went through the painful issue of the conpet rad flag.
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president trump has said that keeping these statues up is parted of our heritage as americans. what should the -- do you agree with that view and if not what should the republican view be on those? >> i think decide state by state. but here is one of the most powerful pictures i've ever been a part of, president obama sta standing in fronted of the pettis bridge in selma, alabama. it's a bridge where folks like john lewis almost lost hire lives trying to secure freedom. the bridge called the pettis bridge having african american president decided by the people of america is the most powerful sign, significant sign of progress in this nation. there is an opportunity for us to understand and appreciate the provocative nature of race in that nation by looking at the symbols of hate and symbols of progress. we can do both. the question will be how states make that decision. >> dickerson: do you believe those statues are symbols of hate?
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>> obviously believe that the pettis bridge certainly was place where hate was carried out in very violent way. the beauty of coming back 50 years later and co-leading a group of congress members to the bridge and having the president stand below it is that, that is a great picture of progress in this nation. i can't say that's true for all statues but i certainly believe that when we have history, you can't sanitize his torso what i'm trying to say the reality of it is having the pettis bridge there still named that is a, aa sign of how dark their heart can can. b, a sign of how light or bright we can become as a nation. >> dickerson: all right senator scott thanks for being with us. joining us now is vermont senator bernie sanders in burlington. senator sanders you tweeted something this morning about the president and his meetings overseas you said, quote, president trump has never met a leaderfn authoritarian nation that he didn't like. you named russia, china, saudi arabia.
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is that really fair, president obama hosted a dinner, he tried to reset with putin in russia isn't this what presidents do? >> no. you want to make friendships. you want to have good relationships. but at the same time as we have a president attacking the media every day as fake news, encouraging republican governors around the country to suppress the vote. playing the race card in the sense of trying to divide us up by the color of our skin, by the country that we came from, he's doing all of these things he has wonderful things to say about mr. putin. the idea that he reports back to us that mr. putin said that russia did not have anything to do in terms of interfering with our elections is -- he believes him. while he does not believe the intelligence agencies of the united states of america. is beyond absurd.
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>> dickerson: let me ask you about the question of roy moore in alabama, when i talked to democrats they basically want republicans to be stuck with this mess. is that really a good idea, isn't this issue and allegations and what is the public we do with allegations like this a little bit more than something that has to just be handled as, great, it's the other team having a bad time? >> allegations, you're right, allegations are allegations. mr. moore denies most of the allegations, i gather but not all. i think mitt romney made this point, john mccain mapped this point that if you look at the report done by the "washington post," which is a very thorough report, its was not done by opposition research. i think you can reach the conclusion that what this gentleman did was totally inappropriate and not the kind
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of behavior that a united states senator should have. >> dickerson: all right, senator sanders, we'll take a break talk about politics. the president did in fact believe the intelligence agencies after his written remarks so did he clean that up. but we'll be back in a second, we'll tech about other things on we'll tech about other things on the other side of this commercial. stay with us. ...at t. rowe price... ...we've helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. what if we could keep more amof what we earn?d. trillions of dollars going back to taxpayers. who could possibly be against that? well, the national debt is $20 trillion.
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as we keep adding to it, guess who pays the bill? him. and her. and her. congress, we should grow the economy. not the debt. ♪ >> dickerson: we're brach with senator bernie standers. democrats had a good week on election day. a lot of analysis has it as kind of anti-trump message that that is what is spurring the democratic party. is it healthy for the democratic party? does it paper over some of the internal questions you all are having? >> well, john, who was to me most exciting was only important victories in virginia and new jersey for governor. but also all over this country, i think the media hasn't quite picked up on it yet, you are seeing grass roots activists, people for the very first time,
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young people working people running for state legislature, running for city council and school board and winning those elections. what i have always believed is that the only way we're going to transform this country, only way we're going to take on the top 1% effectively is when millions of people get involved in the political process and that's what we're beginning to see. that excites me very much. i do believe that in many ways the election on tuesday was a referendum on trump. and the american people very clearly said, no, we're tired of the divisiveness of trump, tired of his policies designed to get tax breaks to billionaires, throw people off of health insurance that's not what we want from an administering. we want real change in this country. we wanted government that represents all of us not the 1%. >> dickerson: talk about that energy in democratic party and progressive movement and liberal movement whichever darks darks however you want to define it. one of the things in hear from people who are life long democrats is, they hear you giving democratic party advice
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and they say, wait a minute, he's not a democrat. why is he giving us advice. it tends to irritate them. what's your response? >> well, it may irritate them. but it does not irritate the american people. look, one of the problems facing the democratic party is that it has got to open up its doors. the truth, is that these are the democratic party or republican party today are held in very high esteem by the american people. that's. >> jon: a fact. more people now who are independence than democrats or republicans so to say to independents, say to young people overwhelmingly, say to working people, we don't want to you come in to the democratic party is totally absurd and it's a recipe for failure. now, in my view the democratic party needs to make fundamental changes. we need to do away with the extraordinary number of superdelegates that now exist in the presidential nominating process. do away with closed primaries. got to reform the caucus system to allow everybody to vote. you need more transparency at the dnc.
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lot of money goes through there, people need to know how. we need a state strategy so that half the states in this country have a democratic party which does not exist. >> dickerson: senator, if the dnc made those changes, would you advise your former supporters who are basically saying the party can't be fixed, we've got to create our own progressive movement, would you encourage them to stop that and then strengthen the democratic party? >> well, i am working very, very hard now to reform the democratic party. i'm working really hard to see that we raise the voter turn out in this country, that we bring people who have given up on the political process in to the democratic party. that's where we are right now. so, i think that now -- we saw this last tuesday. we saw whole lot of people who have never before been involved in politics getting involved in politics. that is what we have to do. and when we do that, we will have the kind of energy that we need to soundly defeat the right wing extremism which is now at
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the republican party and donald trump as well. >> dickerson: we'll that have to leaflet, thanks so much for being with us, we'll be back in a moment. [burke] abstract accident. seen it. covered it. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ retail. under pressure like never before. and it's connected technology that's moving companies forward fast. e-commerce. real time inventory. virtual changing rooms. that's why retailers rely on comcast business to deliver consistent network speed across multiple locations. every corporate office, warehouse and store near or far covered. leaving every competitor, threat and challenge outmaneuvered. comcast business outmaneuver.
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>> dickerson: turn to some analysis from our political panel. amy walter national editor of the political report. jeffrey goldberg is the editor in chief of "the atlantic," ed o'keefe covering congress for the "washington post" and is cbs news contributor. jeffrey, i'll start with you. the president has been in two places on russia here. what is your assessment of, again, he's back on this question of whether he believes his intelligence community. >> rhetorically in two places, his heart is in one place. vladimir putin he has never criticized. he attacks the american intelligence community far more often than he attacks russia and putin. he's obviously walked back some of his comments about russia interference because his own cia director saying that's not correct. he wants him on his side
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obviously. but i think his heart -- his heart it seems as if he believes that the russia story, the russia controversy is manufactured by his enemies and he really believes that putin is in the driver's seat in their relationship. he believes that he needs putin more than pilot tin needs him. it's quite fascinating, it's unprecedented. >> it's the conflations between collusion versus russian meddling, that the president is really focused on there's been this conclusion on collusion, which is true. we obviously have investigation going on on this. what is not in dispute is the fact that russia engaged, involved, meddled in the 2016 election. the president is not separating those two things out. he made the further claim which is also dangerous the to say, i can't really believe the last administration when it came, their views on russia but now that we have my administration,
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we can believe those. and this is to me where we're going to -- we continue to go as a country which is this fierce partisanship and the desire to only believe one side's team over the other side's team in times of great crisis. that is a very, very dangerous place to be, if you only believe your team and what they're telling you about safety of the entire country. >> especially when like six people at the cia were put there by donald trump and everyone else was working there when obama was president. not only this situation, but i think going to be lot of concern about some of the other things he said this past week while in asia, whether it's suddenly being sympathetic to the chinese when it comes to trade imbalance and the fact as margaret pointed out, that all the other countries at this conference were getting together to work on new transpacific partnership and united states on its way to manila. trade is oxly a big concern for both parties for lot of people in this country but the as a matter of fact that the world is working on these things without
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the united states involved is going to be seen as intolerable to a lot of americans, certainly lot of folks who work here in washington. >> he believes on his asia tour that he's advancing the quote, unquote, america first 'general d. but actually what you're seeing is the beginning of china first agenda on the part of the united states. to say his withdrawal from the tpp, climate change, trade -- trade issues, he's clearing the field for china's rise which is, again, unprecedented. >> but he would say, indeed he has said, look, if i can get china to help me with north korea, then we'll put some of these second things in order of priority. >> that's his analysis is weak in one sense. china has to deal with north korea for china's sake, not just american interest to box in -- it's china's direct interest. it seems he's negotiating from a place of weakness which is odd given his self described abilities as a premiere negotiator. he's not negotiating from a
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>> dickerson: we'll be right back with a lot more "face the nation" including more of our panel and treasury secretary steven mnuchin and conversation with trump volters. stay with us.
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