Skip to main content

tv   Face the Nation  CBS  December 10, 2017 8:30am-9:01am PST

8:30 am
captioning sponsored by cbs >> dickerson: today on "face the nation." president trump controversial decision to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel sparks violent protests in the middle east. plus, forced resignations over sexual misconduct rattle congress as work begins to clean up a messy tax bill in the rush to get it to the president's desk by christmas. in the arab world today concern for american citizens' safety overseas as criticism from u.s. allies over administration's plan to move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem, to further deteriorate the role of u.s. around the world. we'll talk to nikki haley, back at home members of congress push three of their colleagues accused of sexual misconduct out. but with two days unphysical the
8:31 am
senate special election in alabama will accused child molester roy moore be in? >> i did not date underage wom women. i did not molest anyone. so these allegations are false. >> dickerson: democrats are hoping doug jones can turn out the african american vote. and attacking moore's character. >> think about it. has roy moore ever looked you in the eye told you the truth? >> s. dickerson: senate republicans still refuse to support moore but the president is all in. campaigning near alabama and recording a robo call on moore's behalf. >> so get out and vote for roy moore. >> dickerson: we'll talk to susan collins and the number two democrat in the senate, illinois' richard durbin about the politics of sexual misconduct in congress and efforts to clean up a sprawling tax bill that has spark more questions than answers.
8:32 am
we'll also have plenty of analysis both foreign and domestic on all the news this week, just ahead on "face the nation." good morning, welcome to "face the nation" i'm john dickerson. we want to begin with a look at the reaction of the president's decision on jerusalem, cbs news correspondent seth doane reports. >> this is the entrance to the old city of jerusalem damascus, has historically been a flash point for violence, it is calm today but additional security is in place. and there is a worrying development this morning, unrest is pushing beyond israel's borders. lebanon today, security forces fired tear gas and used water cannons to push back pro palestinian protesters in front of the u.s. embassy. those demonstrators threw objects and lit fires to register their anger over president trump's recognition of jerusalem as the capital of israel. the cairo there was serious diplomatic blow back at emergency meeting of arab league
quote
8:33 am
foreign ministers who criticized mr. trump's decision saying, it threatens to push the region to the edge of the abyss of violence, chaos and bloodshed. after days of clashes, protests continue while funerals for some of those killed in gads a revealed a dangerous mix of anger and grief. israel's military announced today it destroyed what it called a significant terrorist tunnel, in the past hamas used tunnels to move weapons, supplies and to carry out surprise attacks. today the military wing made an ominous statement saying that the next few days would prove to the world what a mistake the u.s. decision had been and warned not to underestimate the will of the palestinian resistant. >> s. dickerson: we turn to u.n. ambassador nikki haley, she joins froes new york, welcome, madam a ambassador. you've seen the violence in response to the u.s. desticks on
8:34 am
embassy, there's a lot of tension in the middle east with all that's going on and all that the u.s. has to deal with there, why was this a priority and in america's national interest to make this move right now? >> good morning, job. first of all this is a move the american have asked for for 22 years. and six months ago the senate overwhelmingly again asked for the embassy to be moved. i think you have to look at the fact that every presidential candidate, republican or democrat has always said that jerusalem is the capital of and president trump had the courage to do that. what this does is basically do what we do in almost every other country, which s put the embassy in the capital city and jerusalem is where the prime ministers the president is, the parliament, the supreme court, it makes sense for our embassy to be there. >> dickerson: given all that's happening in the world why is it a priority to do this right now and why is it worth paying the price of the increased violence? >> because it's the right thing
8:35 am
to do. it is absolutely the right thing to do and for the last 22 years, everyone around every president has said, just wait, just wait. and president trump is not going to wait any more. >> dickerson: explain why it's the right thing to do? >> it's the right thing to do because it's just reality. jerusalem is the capital of israel. they have said that, when american people say they want something, it is -- it's their will that we're supposed to follow. >> dickerson: in this case, the u.s. is -- critics believe changing its role, it's stepping in more forcibly on the side of israel that sends signal that is not going to make things better. so, explain how we get from this move to a better outcome and whether thisment -- all this violence isn't going to delay a better outcome? >> first of all, i think that when you recognize the truth, when both parties recognize reality, peace comes. and that's just the true reality
8:36 am
of the situation. we're living in the reality that jerusalem is the capital of israel but if you notice when the president spoke, he made it very clear, he didn't talk about boundaries, didn't talk about borders, didn't get into any of that. because the final status of jerusalem is between the palestinians and israelis. it's not for the americans to decide. so we are doing what we do in every other country, israel should be no different. then we're going to continue to support the peace process. you know, courage breeds leadership, you so a courageous move by the president. of course, any time you have to use courage, any time you have to go against the status quo you're going to have people saying the sky is falling. but the sky is not falling. if anything, what we're going to see is, both sides are going to come to the table, they're going to decide what they think jerusalem should look like and going to support that process. >> dickerson: of course people -- rebuttal would be aggressive moves in the middle east have caused united states a lot in blood and treasure.
8:37 am
on a negotiating standpoint, one of the criticism the president gave up a bargaining chip. another views the president is now giving israelis something and now he can ask something from them in return. which of those two do you subscribe to? >> neither one is right. the president took jerusalem off the table. that's what he did. that is something that we have always -- people have said use that as bargaining chip, let's be clear the last 22 years that was a bargaining chip it got us no where closer to peace. he took it off the table. jerusalem is the capital of the israel. take that off the table. say both sides to come together, you decide how you want to split it up. you decide if you're going to create boundaries or borders and let them decide. they're going to be naysayers, john, that say you shouldn't do this, but they also thought, they also question the president when he first decided to strike for chemical weapons in syria, that was true leadership. they said the same thing when we
8:38 am
started to push north korea and push sanction, is that was true leadership. this again will go down in history to show he made the move that got the two parties to come to the table. it's okay for naysayers but we know at the end of the day this is the right thing to do. >> dickerson: let me ask you about north korea. lindsey graham said the u.s. should start moving civilians out of south koria what is your response toe that? >> i think we're watching north korea very carefully. if you look at the last ballistic missile launch, it had advanced quite a bit compared to the missile before. and it's a concern. what we will tell saw north korea is is the biggest threat we have right now. but we're not going to let that stop us, we're going to continue to be forceful. we're going to continue to off the international community join us as they have. and we're going to make sure that we do everything we can to denuclearize north korea. >> dickerson: there is a cultural shift, you saw three members of congress kicked out of congress because of sexual
8:39 am
behavior, misdeeds, you were the first woman senator of south carolina, what do you think of this cultural moment that's happening? >> you know, i am incredibly proud of the women who have come forward. i'm proud of their strength, i'm proud of their courage and i think that the idea that this is happening, i think it will start to bring a -- not just in politics but we've seen in hollywood, in every industry, the time has come. >> dickerson: of course you were the governor of south carolina given that consciousness how do you think people should assess the accusers of the president? >> the same thing, women who accuse anyone should be heard. they should be heard, they should be dealt with. i think we heard from them prior to the election and i think any woman who has felt violated or felt mistreated in any way, they have every right to speak up. >> dickerson: did the election mean that's a settled issue? you. know that's for the people to decide. i know that he was elected, but, women should always feel
8:40 am
comfortable coming forward we should all be willing to listen to them. >> dickerson: ambassador, nikki hayley, thanks for being with us. >> thanks, john. dickerson: turn now to maine republican senator susan collins we have important tax business to get to but i want to stay with this question of the revolution going on in the way that sexual assault is being dealt with. this week the republican national committee supported roy moore. you do not support him, you say you believe his accusers, your colleague republican wrote this. i believe the women and rnc previously did, too, what's changed? or is the party just indifferent? you're a republican, what do you think about the rnc supporting roy moore? >> i'm disappointed that the rnc has resumed the support of roy moore. i think that is a mistake. i would point out that i do not support mr. moore even prior to these allegations of sexual
8:41 am
misconduct because i was concerned about his anti-muslim comments, his anti-lgbt comments, most important of all he's been removed twice from the alabama supreme court for failure to follow lawful judicial order. >> dickerson: you also with the news about al franken you called for him to resign, are you closer to your to the democratic party than the republican party? >> i think republicans care just as much as democrats about sexual misconduct and sexual harassment. there's a new awakening in our country that this is pervasive, whether we're talking about hollywood or wall street or the media or capitol hill. and that's why i'm joining a bipartisan group of senators who are trying to look at our own procedures on capitol hill to assure that allegations of sexual misconduct involving
8:42 am
members or staff are dealt with seriously. >> dickerson: last question on this before taxes, on the question of procedures, senate might have decision to make with roy moore if he's elected. here is something time trying to work with. with the president there were accusations, they were adjudicated in the election, the white house says, so the voters knew about them and they voted for him now he's president. why wouldn't that same standard apply to roy moore. the voters know what has been alleged if he gets elected what business does senate have the -- >> i think that's the tough question. if the allegations are known prior to the election, which they weren't in the case of al franken, for example, then we have a very tough decision to make. about whether it's our role as senators to overturn the will of the people. i think it's a different situation if the allegations are not known or if they occur while the person is sitting in the senate.
8:43 am
>> dickerson: let me go on to taxes. you voted for the senate tax cut bill but you seem to be having qualms, questions, about this conference. where are you on things now? >> always wait until the final version of the bill to brought before us before i make a final decision on whether or not to support it. there are major differences between the house and senate bill and i don't know where the bill is going to come out. i also obviously care very much about amendments that i was successful in getting in the bill that particularly helped middle income families. and i'm also concerned about agreements that i have. >> dickerson: let me ask you about two. one on medicare, an agreement from leader mcconnell and paul ryan that there would not be these automatic medicare cuts afterwards. paul ryan seemed to suggest he wasn't party to that agreement, what is -- where do things stand on that agreement? >> i have written correspondence that memorializes the agreement
8:44 am
that the cut that could go into effect will not go into effect. i would point out that that has been weighed 16 times, never been implemented. but i don't want seniors to have the anxiety of wondering whether the tax bill somehow is going to trigger a cut in medicare. i'm absolutely confident, i have it in writing. a statement by both mitch mcconnell and speaker ryan. >> dickerson: let me ask you about seniors and seniors in maine, the other thing you got commitment on as i understand sit that there would be legislation that would come up before the end of the year dealing with these cost-sharing payments. there's piece of legislation sponsored by alex dander and murray, what is happening with that, not house republicans are being told that's not going to be part of anything before the end of the year which means without those payments, premiums are going up for maine seniors. >> i've had allotted of conversations, not only with my colleagues in the senate but
8:45 am
with my colleagues from the house side and with the white house, i've talked to the president three times about this issue, and once again i have no reason to believe that that commitment will not be kept. after all, who wants to see health insurance premiums become more unaffordable than they already are for individuals who are buying insurance in the individual market. and our two bills, one that i have with bill nelson and tall ex wander murray bill will is downward pressure on premiums to make it more affordable. >> dickerson: there is one critique that have, your legislation helped the condition before this tax bill which has removal of that individual mandate, these fixes won't be enough for those people who will see higher premium increases. >> we have brand new study that just came out last week that reads that consulting firm that says it will more than offset
8:46 am
the repeal of the individual mandate. keep in mind that the individual mandate falls disproportionately on middle and low income. 80% of those are paid by families who make less than $50,000 a year. >> dickerson: all right. senator, i'm afraid we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much nor being with us. >> thank you, john. dickerson: we'll be back in one minute to hear from the one minute to hear from the number two democrat in the senate, richard durbin. that's why entire teams train together in simulators, to know exactly what to do before they have to do it. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. [ click ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers.
8:47 am
our advisors can help you find both. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future. yours. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future. bp is taking safety glasses to a whole new level. using augmented reality so engineers in the field can share data and get expert backup in the blink of an eye. because safety is never being satisfied and always working to be better. >> dickerson: joining us now is senate democratic whip, richard durbin in springfield, illinois, welcome, senator. pick up on something that senator collins said about the choice that senators may face if roy moore is elected in alabama. and the question is, what business does senate have in overturning the will of the people of alabama if he's elected, senator collins says that's a tough decision, what is your sense ever it? >> well, john, i can tell you this. first, decision is to be made by voters of alabama on tuesday and i hope that they will do the
8:48 am
right thing in terms of defining their standards and values when it comes to people representing them in washington. but we have heard from republican senators first who have suggested that if roy moore ends up being elected to the senate, he would face close scrutiny, investigation, even removal from the senate once he arrives. i agree with senator collins, it's a complicated issue, but i will tell think we face the reality this past week. i have known al franken hover 20 years, he is my friend, he was on the floor of the senate announcing his resignation, i sat just a few feet away from him. said the worst day in his political life. it was a somber feeling, it was a reality that i hope voters of alabama appreciate that reality when they make their decision on tuesday. >> dickerson: let me ask you about political critique of the democratic party's pressure on al franken that led to his resignation. a piece that says, morality is no longer its own reward. what we get in exchange nor being good and morally right is now nothing. the argument that democrats have
8:49 am
standard that leads franken to go and republicans are going to -- committee supporting moore, president supporting moore that democrats are on the high road but politically bad road to be on. >> i could just tell you your interview with susan collins demonstrates that's not true. there are republicans who feel very strongly about this issue have said so. if more do then we can establish a national standard not a partisan standard. when it comes to the future of relationships with women. this to me from susan collins' comments gives me hope that alabama voters will do the right thing and also see both parties coming to the same conclusion on this issue. >> dickerson: final question on this, senator, there's a criticism that al franken was pressured not because of the specific facts but democrats wanted to look good in comparison to republicans, what is your response? >> i can tell you, it was a painful process, because of our
8:50 am
personal friendships and relationships with al and his family. there was no political calculation in here. it was just a painful moment when we made a decision, moved forward and democratic side. i hope republicans will face that reality as well. >> dickerson: on taxes, senator, what can democrats do, this is moving into the conference committee and republicans have the vote to pass it, what are democrats going to do? >> well, it did pass the senate. there was only one republican senator, bob corker who voted no. susan collins made it clear she's still waiting before she makes a final decision. i think others are in the same position. jeff flake, for example, of arizona, made it clear that bringing up this issue about daca and dreamers is critical to his vote when it comes to tax. so, i can't assume where the republicans will end but they have an awful lot to accomplish in a very short period of time. >> dickerson: you mentioned daca, let's just go up on the side road there on that. number of your democratic
8:51 am
supporters, colleagues would like you the democrat to basically make funding of the government to keep the government running would like you to make it contingent on doing something about daca, will you? >> i can tell think, we don't want to see the government shut down. we want to move forward bipartisan fashion to solve our problems. we believe that daca is central. the president is the one who made this issue september the 5th he eliminated the daca program and put in doubt the future of over 780,000 people in america. and we want to get this done and accomplished. 4 republicans in the house came out last week and said, do it before the end of the year. senate republicans have said the same thing, lisa murkowski tweeted that her christmas wish, greatest christmas wish to see this done, daca and dreamer issue resolved this calendar year. it is within the power of the republicans to get this done and to put together a package that we can pass.
8:52 am
we want to stand by them, work with them and get that done. >> dickerson: nothing focuses like a deadline, though, using the deadline of the funding as leverage, both of this and also the children's health insurance, nine million children that still yet to be dealt with, you at one point said i'm not prepared to go home for holidays until we get our work done. that suggests a little bit of use of this funding as a deadline, but are you really going to go that far? >> well, i feel very strongly. there are many important issues, daca to me personally, dream act a very personal, means an awful lot. when we're talking about funding our government, providing the resources and the programs that middle income families use across america, dealing with the opioid crisis, making certain that we take care of our veterans, making certain that we have the money for biomedical research, these are part of the conversation and part of the dialogue as we close down this budget, it is up to republicans to make a decision about what we
8:53 am
will do. i think we can get this done right. >> dickerson: final question, senator, you're on the judiciary committee, there have been questions raised about inspectors, people working for the special counsel, one of women sent disparaging text about the president then another went to hillary clinton's victory party and also praised blocking the president's travel ban. what is -- how big of a deal do you think this is that the questions are being raised? >> let me say at the out celt i have the highest confidence in bob mueller, i also have confidence that if he has any questions about motives or conduct of the staff he will tact on it decisively and professionally. he is moving forward on this investigation, i trust him. if there's something that went wrong in terms. staffing, i trust him to take care of it. >> dickerson: that's it. we're out of time. thanks so much for being with thanks so much for being with us, we'll be right back in a moment. stay with us. ush high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees.
8:54 am
fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. this ♪s electricity. this is a power plant. this is tim barckholtz. that's me! this is something he is researching at exxonmobil: using fuel cells to capture carbon emissions at power plants. this is the potential. reducing co2 emissions by up to 90%... while also producing more power. this could be big. energy lives here.
8:55 am
what if we could keep more amof what we earn?d. trillions of dollars going back to taxpayers. who could possibly be against that? well, the national debt is $20 trillion. as we keep adding to it, guess who pays the bill? him. and her. and her. congress, we should grow the economy. not the debt. ♪ [burke] abstract accident. seen ♪ video-it. covered it.c we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
8:56 am
>> dickerson: jeff glor's interview with the french president, ahead of the climate change summit then jeff will anchor tomorrow night's broadcast from there. we'll be right here with more "face the nation." "face the nation." stay with us. nts? well jd power did just rank them highest in investor satisfaction with full service brokerage firms... again. and online equity trades are only $4.95... i mean you can't have low cost and be full service. it's impossible. it's like having your cake and eating it too. ask your broker if they offer award-winning full service and low costs. how am i going to explain this? if you don't like their answer, ask again at schwab. schwab, a modern approach to wealth management. this is not a cloud. this is a tomato tracked from farm to table on a blockchain, helping keep shoppers safe. this is a financial transaction secure from hacks and threats others can't see. this is a skyscraper whose elevators use iot data and ai to help thousands get to work safely and efficiently.
8:57 am
this is not the cloud you know. this is the ibm cloud. the ibm cloud is the cloud for business. yours. ♪ ♪ what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald's helps more people go to college. it's part of our commitment to being america's best first job. ♪
8:58 am
>> dickerson: some of our stations are leaving us now but we've got lot for "face the nation" coming up, plenty of analysis on news here and abroad. stay with us.
8:59 am
9:00 am
>> can you believe this? it is caught for the win. >> sergio. >> justin thomas is the pag champion. touchdown, georgia. >> north carolina. [captioning funded by cbs sports division] james: week 14 in the nfl. >> h.r. keenum, winner of eight in a row going against the carolina defense, which is tough and going to have to be sharp in the passing game. bill: cam newton, seffvn passing touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns, are they enough against the vikings. nate:derek car signing autographs and left his