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captioning sponsored by cbs rett: today on "face the nati what's ahead in 2018. president trump is wrapping up a tweet and holiday break in florida and along the way drops some hints about what he wants to get done in the new year. congress has a to-do list also. to fill us in we'll buck with south carolina republican lindsey graham and then four members of the house of representatives. democrats joe crowley of new york and debbie tingle of michigan and two republicans. will hurd of texas and head of the conservative freedom caucus mark meadows of north carolina. in an election year what are their priorities for the 2018 mid terms take over what are the chances of fixing health care, resolving the status of so-called dreamers or getting around infrastructure spending. after the lawmakers have their say our political panel will offer its analysis abouts what's
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ahead. then we'll have conversation with best selling author j.d. vance, his book "hillbilly elegy" gave america a candid look at our part of the country that turned the election for president trump still hopes he delivers it's all ahead on "face the nation." good morning, welcome to "face the nation." john is off today, i'm major garrett. 2018 is already arrived spin parts of the world, here in the u.s. americans are getting ready to ring in the new year despite extremely cold temperatures in some parts of our country. security has been increased as you might expect at new year's celebrations across the country. but with temperatures expected to be in single digits or very low double digits in places like times square, record cold could be more likely than record crowds. we've got lot to get to today but we want to take note of the situation in iran. anti-government protests continue for the third day.
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these are the largest demonstrations in the country in almost ten years. two protesters were killed. we begin with republican senator lindsey graham he joins us from clemson, south carolina, where i suspect one or two residents have rooting interest in tomorrow night's sugar bowl. senator, great to have you with us, get straight to the situation in iran. what is the import of the demonstrations and what should um president trump do or say about them? >> it tells us that the obama approach of removing sanctions hoping the regime would moderate has failed. the people are not getting benefit of sanction relief they're more upset. the money from sanction relief haas gone into rebuilding the iranian military and destabilizing the mid east. if i were president trump i would have nationwide address pretty soon explaining why the iranian nuclear deal is a bad deal for the world, what a better deal would look like and urge congress and european
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allies to get a better deal with iran before it's too late. >> garrett: the purpose of that national address would be to take note of this moment and put the united states four square on behalf and behind those people protesting in the streets? some have said that would be the wrong thing to do because that would give the regime an enemy to point at, us again. >> that was the obama approach. if i were trump i'd do the exact opposite of obama. he said i don't want to get involved, i don't want to mess up the chance of getting that deal with iran, the deal with iran hasn't worked. the money didn't to go benefit the people, it went to benefit ayatollah and henchmen. the people are not our enemies, eye tola is the enemy of the world. here is what i would do it's not enough to watch. president trump system tweeting very sympathetically to the iranian people. but we just couldn't tweet here, has to layout a plan, i'd layout
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a plan as to how i would engage the regime. i would tell the europeans and congress and the world that america is going to withdraw from this agreement unless it's a better deal. i'd layout what a better deal would look like, i would stand with the iranian people the entire time. >> garrett: have you conveyed this personally to the president? >> i just did. >> garrett: very good. sometimes you can do that by phone i'm just curious. north korea, you've said recently that if there is another missile test or you can weapons test in north korea 70% probability we will attack north corey a.70%. that's a higher risk level than anyone i've talked to on that issue, why is it so high? >> i said if there's a nuclear weapons test that goes from 30% to 70%, a lot of time with president trump. he made the decision early on to deny the north korean regime the capability to hit america with a
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nuclear-tip missile. there are two things key have done. given them the capability to hit america and tell them if you ever use it i'm going to blow you off the map, that's called containment. he rejected that idea because you can't contain north korea. they will fail anything they make if they don't use it. he's in the camp of denial. he's told the north koreans i will deny you the capability to hit america with a nuclear-tip missile if they test another bomb they're closer to having that capability. >> as last resort i will use more force to stop you. now, iranians are watching us and north korea. north korea is watching us in iran. 2018 will be a year of opportunity and extreme danger. the president has drawn a line in nort north core telling the e i'll never let you hit america with a nuclear-tip missile, if i have to i'll use military force to up to. iranians are watching how he he earn gauges with north korea. we have chance here to deliver
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some fatal blows to really bad actors in 2018. but if we blink, god help us all. >> garrett: what i hear you saying is 20181 the year of preemptive strikes. >> the year to deny north core preat capability to hit the homeland. sanctions will never work completely without the threat of credible military force. how do you change a man's behavior who selling to kill his own family, torture his own people to stay in power. he's living large and he could kill us about -- only way he'll change his behavior if he beliefs that donald trump would use military force to destroy his regime and iranians are watching how trump works with north korea. you'll ask highway my relationship has evolved with the 39. it's evolved because he is president of the united states, he beat me like a drum, i want to help him like i can. there's a lot on this man's plate. >> garrett: what have you learned about him that makes him different and someone you want to work with and can work with
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than he was when you said he was unfit for office and quite possibly a cook. >> i said everything i could, seen phobic bigot i ran out of adjectives. the american people spoke. they rejected my analysis. i worked with president obama where i could. and president bush even though i supported senator mccain. i got to know him better, he asks a lot of good questions. he's made good foreign policy choices. he's got the right policy to deny north corey is hit america with a now on the side of the iranian people. but has to do more than watch. he actually has to act r act. i would withdraw from the nuclear agreement with iran next year if it's not made better by the congress and our european allies. >> garrett: i'll give you two minutes and three topics. health care, daca, how is senator mccain? >> senator mccain is in rehab. he's coming back in january.
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we need his voice now more than ever. health care, there's a debate in federalism and socialism. i don't know of one republican who wants to repair obamacare. i don't know one democrat who wants to replace it. we're not going to come together on healthcare. on daca, they is a deal to be had, the dreamers can have the life they dreamed of if the democrats and republicans can give. we need the wall. not a complete 2200 mile wall. we need border security. marry that up with the dream act. there's a deal to be had on immigration i want to do it in january. i don't want to wait until march. >> garrett: that was lightning round. you did spectacular job. "new york times" reported this week that george popadopoulos a foreign policy advisor to the trump campaign has a booze-filled encounter with australian diplomat, that's where this whole investigation began. not the dossier. you asked for special counsel to look into the dossier, its evolution and import.
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what does the "new york times" reporting tell you about that story does it make you want to back away from your request for a special counsel into the dossier matter? >> the dossier, i want somebody to look how the department of justice handled the dossier. as to the rush investigation, i don't think it hurts our country to look at what russia did in our election. as a matter of fact it would hurt us if we ignored it. there's no evidence of collusion between the trump campaign and russians yet. but it would be op toe -- up to mr. mule tore make that decision. some democrats want to impeach the president. he's denied any collusion. mr. mueller to do his job without interference, i want somebody to look at the way the department of justice used this dossier, it bothers me greatly the way they used it i want somebody to look at it. 2018, this investigation will go forward, it will be an investigation conducted without political influence. president needs to focus on his day job. i need to focus on being a senator all need to let
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mr. mueller do his job. the right guy at that time the right time. >> garrett: lindsey graham, happy new year. thank you very much. look what's hon 2018 congressional agenda we're joined by group of house members not one, but four all who ham back to town. two republicans, congressman mark meadows from north carolina. chairman of the conservative group in the house known as freedom caucus. his colleague will hurd from texas our democrats this morning, congresswoman debbie tingle from michigan and joe crowley. happy new year. i want to go around the table very quickly with a opening question. debbie, start with you. what do you consider the most important agenda item for congress from your perspective and what will 2018 look like outside of politics in a successful year? >> i think we've got to try to work with each other because there are lot of things we've got to deliver for the american people. i don't say that i'm not going to work with anybody.
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we have to get a budget passed in january and make it long term. but there are so many other subjects we have to worry about pension, health care, i've been in the hospital with my husband, i can't not tell you how many people crying and scared to death and daca. >> garrett: your husband is former congressman,. >> he's okay, stubborn, otherrary and twittering. >> garrett: good combination. >> one thing. there's more than one thing. concerned about major issue for us, the dreamers, the daca issue. the issue of puerto rico and virgin islands making sure that those americans are made whole. also the other piece of this is fight against, that is privatization of social security, it's going to be medicare and medicaid, that's on the block to our republican. mark meadows and others have
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also teed that up as well. very concerned about. >> garrett: will hurd? >> national security. as you know i spent nine and half years as under cover officer in the cia you led off the show talking about iran. it's a real threat to the rest 69 world. this is something that we can get together as republicans and democrats and support and work together on. we need to make sure that european allies and germany and france and england are following trump's lead and showing that they support the iranian people. we need to make sure that we're showing the rest of the world what's really happening in iran because iranian government is trying to shut down the internet, trying to stop people from talking because there is a proxy war going on right now between iran and our allies saudi arabia and israel and that can become a hot war. that is going to be dangerous for everybody. we've been focusing a lot on north korea as long as two countries are talking, the fact that we are in direct conversation with north korea
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something that hasn't been highlighted, proxy war turning into a hot war something that we have to be worried about. >> garrett: do you agree that the president should give national address son this and something, speaking of your past life, covertly? >> there is plenty of time to talk about how this -- what this means for the iran deal. but the first step is to show that we're united in supporting the iranian people and their ability to peacefully protest. written in the constitution that people can peacefully protest. we should be supporting that, we should be encouraging our allies to ensure that the iranians are allowing that. if they crackdown and these two deaths are because of iranian security officials, because of the irgc, if we allow this to continue that's where we should be talking about sanctions because these are human rights abuses, we should be unified, show the people we stand with them. >> garrett: mark meadows? >> i think it's about what matters on main street.
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we need to continue to grow the economyf we look at 2017, historic from standpoint of tax reform, consumer confidence and 17-year high. we've got a stock market that is creating wealth again. going beyond that, though, what we need to make sure is that we build on the success. we've got a president that actually made unbelievable foreign policy decision that i support. moving the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem, something that he'll be defined for centuries as the only president who was willing to take the fortitude to do this. we've got to build on those successes. i think what we will see is a real push to make the tax cuts for individuals permanent. i think you'll see a vote on that in the first 30 days of this new year. for those moms and dads on main s. i think the other part that have that you'll see is, that there's going to be a real battle over what do we grow?
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do we grow the economy or do we grow government? right now, i can tell you, does not look well. it looks like we're going to spend more money on growing the government in january than perhaps the biggest amount of money that we spent since the obama sim my husband plan. >> garrett: to break that down foreread yens to pass budget, to reach the deficit -- defense spending threshold the president has outlined, democrats will ask republicans and to raise the domestic caps as well. without democratic support of the senate you can't pass a budget. how is that go go to be resolved? >> i think the real question is what is probably. the administration is already been willing to say we're going to increase nondefense discretionary spending that amounted of money outside of the military. by about 7%. democrats are saying well that's not enough, we need to give the government a pay raise of 10-11%, for fiscal conservatives, i don't see where the rational s. we've got people
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on social security and making a living who may be have seen 2%,% increase now going to give the government 11% more? eventually you run out of other people's money. >> garrett: we'll take a break, let joe cruelly and debbie take on that point of view. we'll tease this out when we come back. with our congressional panel, please, stay with us. david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald's helps more people go to college. it's part of our commitment to being america's best first job. ♪ oh, look... another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen.
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and united is without question our number one priority a third of our national security budge sent the nondefense spending. we need to be worried about that. we do -- -- president trump is one of the people that said -- i said it because american people are angry. they're tired of partisan bickering want to see us get things done. but they're scared. they haven't lost the fear that's in our soul. from the last time the markets collapsed you've got people that, west virginia, peoplish my district who work their lifetime put money into their pensions, retiring suddenly money is not there. we've got a moral responsibility to figure this out. >> garrett: you mention pensions, what are you talking about, what do you want to see happen? >> there is a bill named after a teamster who died in ohio, trying to fight for this which actually would not ultimately cost the government money. it would be a way -- funding a way like bonds. >> garrett: back up pension. >> long term.
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and we need to do something. these are people, these -- they're crying in my arms. >> we feel that the banks need to bail out the individuals that were hurt by that -- >> garrett: who lost pensions, allowances and guarantees. >> have less than half their pension coming to them. >> garrett: as a result of the great recession. >> in great part. let me say what debbie said about the budget itself. a third of the domestic spending is on defense. it's on homeland security. i think that can short shift our colleagues. it's interesting to hear mark talk about fiscal responsibili responsibility. here we just passed -- just re-financed the mortgage. united states house. and in doing so borrowed $1.5 trillion. >> garrett: tax cut bill. >> we did not put that money into our kids' college accounts, help them pay for college, didn't improve the infrastructure of our house. we gave biggest, largest tax cuts to the wealthiest,
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multi-national corporations in the world. talk about fiscal responsibility. that is one of the most -- least responsible fiscal responsible bills we've seen pass in the house. we'll be paying for this. >> garrett: will and mark on taxes real quick then get to daca. >> i disagree with anyway friend from new york city. the tax cut that we just passed historic in its nature is going to allow more americans to keep their money and not send it up here to washington, d.c., going to real lou people to invest in the future of their children by investing in education. when we talk about making sure people have a strong footing in their retirement, the fact that we're seeing the highest stock market ever, now you have this opportunity with super charging the economy with tax cuts, this is good for everyone. this means increasing wages, this is good economic -- about economic growth that's going to help make sure that people's
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financial future are secure. >> garrett: let me back up. joe is running to an old talking point, we can go to your twitter feed, i think it's majorcbs. just before christmas where there's an interview with a single mom from cary, north carolina, making $40,000 a year. you had cpa from new york actually do her taxes she's getting $1300 back. so to suggest that it's just the rich that are getting it over 91%, so, nine out of ten viewers that are watching that right now are getting money back. it's not our money. it's their money and what we need to do is trust them to spend it. they will spend it better than the government. >> tax bill overly -- that's not even arguable. >> garrett: we'll talk about daca right now and try to work this outright here and light now. the president says joe crowley and debbie dingell, daca can be done but money for the wall and
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has to be something done on visa reformist part of immigration. those are the terms set forth by the president. acceptable or unacceptable? >> we need to do daca clean maine by itself? >> by itself. these young kids were here during christmas, they are desperate. they spend lifetime here. we should not be bogging down with subjects we need to talk about border security is important. how we do it. we probably need to have lot of -- >> garrett: president wants to leverage your desire for daca in his willingness to codify in law which president obama did not do but wants exchange his priorities. >> like volunteer fireman here who starts his own fire and tells everyone else how to put it out. the president created this fire. he unwound -- >> because president -- >> actually did daca. did he the deferral. this president actually -- >> unwound what we're --
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is it -- >> let me answer the question. he created the situation and now essay in order to take care of these souls who are american -- not american citizens, they are american in every way. they are cultural americans. they know no other way of life than being here. they love this country and to remain here. what the president is saying, in order to do that we have to bill a $40 billion wall, that you can't drive on, you can't live in, it's incredible waste of american resources. >> 30 seconds, will hurd. >> we do this together but we have to do this together. we can have smart solutions to border security. we can solve this problem in a narrow fashion for these dreamers who are march r have only known united states of america as their home. good thing iss nobody is talking about deporting a million ids. so-- a million kids. >> they are. >> nobody is -- >> who is going to -- i'm dealing with --
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what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald's helps more people go to college. it's part of our commitment to being america's best first job. ♪ >> garrett: we will be right back.
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