>> brennan: today on "face the nation." anger and anguish following the marjorie stoneman douglas high school shooting lead to a big push for tougher gun laws. will this effort succeed where others have failed? we'll have the latest on the missed opportunities that could have saved lives or prevented last week's killing of 14 students and three adults. then we'll talk to two florida lawmakers, ted deutch and republican brian mast, says this shooting has changed his views. what do they think of the president's call for arming teachers in the classroom and other idea to end gun violence in schools? >> we have the capability to take these people out rapidly before they can do this kind of

damage. >> brennan: arkansas governor asa hutchinson served as add advicer to the nra. what have we learned from past mass shootings that help us find solution now. we'll talk to parents of victims and survivors of sandy hook, column wine and other place involving gun violence. also take a closer look at the horrors in syria after a massive bombing campaign it's all ahead on "face the nation" captioning sponsored by cbs good morning and welcome to "face the nation" i'm margaret brennan. we've got a lot to get to ed today we begin in parkland, florida, with omar villanranca the investigation how federal and local authorities handle the nikolas cruz case both before and after the shooting. >> good morning, margaret. students will be allowed on campus today for the first time

since the shooting and it's part of a reorientation to get them ready for classes which are expected to start on wednesday. more than 100 students marched past marjorie stoneman douglas high school where 17 of their classmates and teachers were killed last week. the students arerying to keep the pressure of politicians to reform gun laws, this weekend the scrutiny over the police and fbi's missed signals about confessed gunman nikolas cruz intensified. earlier this week, broward deputy scott petersen an armed school resource officer at douglas resigned after school video cameras showed him taking cover outside during the attack. the sheriff's department is also investigating allegation from the responding coral springs police department that when they arrived on the scene three broward deputies were outside the building with their weapons drawn. in an interview on cnn state of the union, broward sheriff addressed the charges. >> we will look at all the action or inactions of every

single deputy on our agency, sergeants, lieutenants, captains, we'll make some decision. right now all i can tell you is, during the killing there was -- while the killer was an campus with this horrific killing, there was one deputy. one armed person within the proximity that have school that was petersen. >> local law enforcement officials are also looking into missed warnings about the shooter like this one made last november. >> despite all the warnings and missed signals, all of cruz's gun performs appear to be legal undercurrent law. margaret? >> brennan: thank you. we turn now to democrat ted deutch what represents congressional district where the shooting occurred and house colleague brian mast a republican his district is north parkland and they join us from

the memorial near smartphone man douglas high school. good morning to you i according to the sheriff's office, 23 calls came in regarding this shooter or his family. sheriff israel told cnn this morning, i've given amazing leadership to this agency. would you agree with that? >> well, i'll tell you what the sheriff needs to do, i talked to the sheriff last night about this. we need to nipped out exactly what happened, why it was there were so many signals not just from the visits but social media postings, there's so much that has happened, the fbi has admitted that a call came in, that was missed. all of that is just -- it's one more blow to a grieving community. but it also, we can continue to figure out what happened to make sure that never happens again. and still take meaningful action

to assure that weapons like the one that this shooter used can never be used by another -- in another mass shooting anywhere in any school or any other place in america. >> brennan: will you get a briefing from the fbi on why they missed these signals? >> getting a briefing from the fbi, i also expect, those of us, delegation from down here especially is interested in getting a full briefing once all of the information is available about these missed signs. about what's happened. it's vital for us, at the same time that we work together inspired by these survivors to take action to prevent this from happening again. >> brennan: congressman mast, i want to bring you in here you've had change of heart, you're now calling for a ban on the ar15 and also increase in the age limit for purchase. why and did you -- in this case change your view?

>> look, we've seen a lot of shootings out there. we've seen what happens here, what happened in las vegas, saw what happened in orlando. for me personally it pains me to know that i went out there willing to defend my country, willing to give everything with almost exact same weapon that is used to go out there unfortunately kill children here in parkland. i think there's a very real opportunity here for response and action that's what really brought me to my change of heart in talking about this. i just can't stand to see that personally. >> brennan: for those two items that you are supporting, it doesn't appear that your party or your congressional leadership is behind you on that. do you have a sense that any other republican rank and file members will join you in this call? >> so let's look at one of the ways that we can bring people into this conversation. not just my fellow rank and file members, republican leadership in the house and senate but also the president. what i love about my president is that he is a man of action and i can tell you that at

veterans and soldiers we save life we don't hesitate, we don't have a conversation we go out there and do it. i think that's what the travel ban has been all about. it's been about saving lives in our community and our country. let's take that exact same model and apply it right now to this situation. >> brennan: but you don't have any numbers -- because the president hasn't -- >> i don't have numbers. i think we can get the president on board and members of congress on board to say, let's put that same kind of pause on board right now. where we look at who is having access, what do they have access to? what were the failures that went on to the fbi and atf and other state agencies and in the state. what is everything that is going on, get back to the american people after this pause with sensible regulation, with sensible solutions because we are going to look at this in a very real way. it made sense in the case of terrorists coming into this country and makes sense in looking at guns. >> brennan: do you believe that

teachers, even trained teachers should be armed? >> i don't. the answer -- the shift to arming teachers is a distraction. it's a distraction from the important discussion about all of the things that can be done right now, this week, when we go back to washington. on mental health.banning bump stocks, universal background checks, those aren't controversial. everyone supports them. so that's what we need to focus on. but the important point here is because of these young leaders, the ground is shifting. members of congress are now willing to stand up and be as offended as everyone else when the millionaire lobbyist who runs the nra goes to political convention says that people like me and congress want to take action to support kids, don't care about children. >> brennan: but even after sandy hook, 15 democrats voted against an assault weapons ban, this isn't simply about the nra at this point.

>> as i sid, the ground is shifting, every member of congress in the senate going to hear from these kids, they have been to tallahassee, they're coming to washington, they're going to have face to face conversations. they are important conversations where they i will impress the need to take action. look the fact that there are now more than a dozen companies who have severed their relationship with the gun corporations that ran the nra tells you that things are starting to change, people are standing up to save lives. >> brennan: all right. >> there is room for this conversation. there are great candidates in terms of former marines, former law enforcement, people that already have concealed carry permits. >> brennan: do you agree that teachers should be armed? >> i think some teachers are the right candidates for this, absolutely. that have had training that have the desire. but remember they are people, too. they can leave a firearm laying around. don't necessarily have training in identifying the threat and

identifying the innocent you have to make sure that they get the appropriate level of training. >> brennan: thank you both for joining us today for this conversation. we want to turn now to a group of people whose lives have been impacted directly by gun violence and who have been moved to do something about it. austin eubanks was 17-year-old student at column wine high school when two of his classmates opened fire in 1999 wounding him and killing 13. he is now the chief operating officer at an addiction recovery facility in colorado. nicole hockley's son, dylan, was among 20 children killed at sandy hook in newtown, connecticut in december of 2012. she cofounded sandy hook promise, a group working to protect children from gun violence. andy parker's daughter, allison, was a reporter for cbs affiliate wdbj when she was shot and killed during a live broadcast in 2015. and he's now activists and helped start for allison, an

educational foundation named after his daughter. and michelle gay lost her daughter josephine in the sandy hook massacrea former teacher she cofounded safe and sound schools following her daughter's death. and joining us now is john mina from orlando the chief of police for the orlando police department. a job he held back in june 2016 when gunman entered pulse nightclub and killed 49 people. nicole i want to start with you. after sandy hook, people said this has to be different. this is an attack on children. people now are saying that about parkland. it feels different. >> i do feel the difference because i think there's a difference between adults advocating for their children versus children advocating for themselves. and these are articulate teenagers sharing their experience and demanding that the adults listen to them. i think the politicians need to stop their nonsense fighting and

instead just shut up and listen a little bit to these kids and listen to what they're demanding because this can't continue. we can't keep letting our kid die and feel unsafe. >> brennan: you met with a number of these activist in florida. >> i did meet with some of them, their energy and their drive, that energized me. because i have been in this fight for five years, they are the start of the very long journey but they have tools in terms of social media and stuff that i didn't really have at my fingertips. they are organizing and mobilizing at an incredibly rapid rate. and they're not listening to what other people are telling them to say, they are speaking for themselves. they are being authentic, that has power. >> brennan: michelle do you see student ago take" is the same way? >> i do. interestingly enough in the school safety space when we founded safe and sound schools in the bring following the tragedy, the first and probably most powerful group that we were hearing from was students. we've been working with students

now for five years, we just released a youth council program that came out this fall, so we're grateful that a lot of those councils were already established prior to this tragedy that the kids have this platform to speak in their communities. but i would agree with nicole. it is different this time because they are organized, because they are speaking up and we want to hear what they have to say. >> brennan: andy, after your daughter's death, you became politically active so did allison's fiance, where do you think that this activism should be focused? is it at the local and state level or is it here in washington? >> margaret, it has to be all of the above. we have to give law enforcement the tools that they need to prevent this kind of tragedy from happening, one of them ironically, marco rubio brought it up in the town hall last week is a gun violence restraining order. and what a lot of people don't know is that with all the alarms

and red flags and warnings about this shooter in florida, he was never -- he was never arrested for anything so legally law enforcement can't go in and remove weapons. with the gun violence restraining order they can. i hope that this changes the equation because barbara and i testified in front of a virginia senate committee on this very issue. the chairman of the committee looked at me and said, we're sorry for your loss. then they voted it down on partylines. same thing with young woman who survived las vegas shooting was in tears saying please ban bump stocks they did the same thing to her. at this point the republican party hopefully there will be a change there but they're the party of the nra. that's just a fact. >> brennan: austin, what you went through happened in the middle of an assault weapons

ban, when you hear these activists, these student activists in particular call for ban unspecificly does that speak to you in any way, do you say that is misguided or how do you think this should be focused? >> it definitely speaks to me, i'm really inspired by the level of ook take vim that i have seen. the problem that i have, we are so laser focused on one or two, gun control or mental health. then nothing ever gets done. i think that we do have a problem with accessibility to these weapons but specifically we have a problem to accessibility to high capacity magazines we have to bring down the number of shots that somebody can fire before reloading. i think that is exception family important. beyond that we have to look at why this issue is occurring. we have to go all the way back to the way that we're educating and socializing young men. so what i really advocate for is appointing nonpartisan group of experts who can study this issue comprehensively and in the near term have to bring down the loss of lives. by doing that we can eliminate high capacity magazines. >> brennan: at the federal or

local level? >> i believe at the federal level. >> brennan: chief mina i want to come to you quickly before we to go commercial break then continue our conversation on the other side of it. chief, it sounds like there were just so many red flags, at least 23 calls to local authorities, flags raised to the fbi in this case and parkland. how hard is it to actually intervene as law enforcement? is this a matter of just local bureaucracy run amuck or is it a failure, a derelict shun of duty. how to dough people understand this. >> it's a failure of all the systems involved. the police department, many other law enforcement agencies in central florida and across the nation there are protocols in place for when we receive social media threats, for when we get some of these red flags and i would tell that you we don't stop working until that threat is mitigated until we geo made the threat, go talk to

them, talk to their parents. and go very hands on with them. in many case either arrest or commit that person for an involuntary mental examination. the issue and some of the problems with that is, even if we commit someone under the baker act for mental evaluation, they can get their evaluation, probably be released in less than 72 hours and still go -- enable to buy a firearm that loophole needs to be closed because many of our law enforcement throughout the country have had many succession stories as far as mitigating some of these threats and seeing the red flags and working it to the very end, putting the person in custody or getting them evaluated then that person still being able to purchase a firearm. >> brennan: chief, we want to talk to you again on the other side of this break along with the rest of our panel. so stay with us, please, we'll be back in just a moment.

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>> brennan: bring in chief mina who was chief in that city during the pulse nightclub attack which did involve the sheeter using semi automatic weapon. chief, i wouldn't ask you, this proposal to at the state level have skilled teachers be armed, to you, does that make a difference? >> i don't think that's a good idea. it's their job to educate our students and they do a great job of that. our teachers aren't trained, physically or mentally prepared to handle firearms in a stressful situation. law enforce. throughout the country not only do they go through hours and months and weeks of training but they are also carry firearms every day and deal and use their

firearms sometimes in stressful situations and if for a teacher to be educating students at one second then be responsible for responding in a high stress situation with a firearm with not enough training or mental preparation, i don't think it's a good fit. i'm against that. >> brennan: michelle you're a former teacher, what do you think about arming educators? >> i would agree completely. i just -- i understand that it's a community-based decision that will always be our position at safe and sound schools. we know that different communities are made up of different people, with different backgrounds and there are different circumstances some of our communities are facing response time that may be up to 15 minutes. i understand this need to look at all solutions, put them all on the table. but when i think very practically about myself sitting in a second grade classroom on the floor with my students teaching reading, the last thing i would be ready for in a split

second that it might happen is having to pull out a firearm, purple frit my hip and intervene in that way. further having worked with school resource officers so closely for the past five years, we know the level of training that they undergo, we know the time, the mindset as other guest was talking about just the familiarity of having that firearm with you. all of that working and consideration that goes into that. that is not something i want to put on a teacher who is already very over burdened sadly with a lot of tremendous responsibili responsibility. >> brennan: colorado has ex floored this. >> i'm opposed to it as well it do believe we have to strengthen schools by way of architecture, metal detectors or additional security personnel. those two functions have to be completely separate. educators have to focus on education. and security officials need to focus on security. >> brennan: nicole, with with

sandy hook promise you've been looking at ways to harden the response at least, what are you looking at and proposing? >> i agree that we need to focus on how do we handle imminent danger such as school security and infrastructure of our schools. i believe the shift needs to focus to prevention. how do we help identify people that are at risk of potentially hurting themselves or others that's what we offer from sandy hook promise, we're in about 7,000 schools with our free program and free anonymous reporting system. that is way for teachers, educators, students and parents to say this is what i'm recognizing and this is what i'm seeing then have system to report it. to be honest in terms o arming teachers it would be better to arm them with this knowledge, ability to do that to prevent violence before it happens. if there's federal funding available for these programs versus arming teachers, i would put it towards the programs or giving teachers more what they need in terms of supplies or books or arming them with more

school counselors as well to help these kids. >> brennan: andy, you faced backlash for your activism, something we're seeing now with these students in florida, where does that come from? >> there arlene on of hoaxers that defend on me like locusts they have done the same thing with the kids in florida they call crisis actors. they say allison has had plastic surgery is living in israel some place. the level of cruelty is just unimaginable. but it's fueled -- all you have to do look on pennsylvania avenue, it's enabled by a president that has unhinged tweets every single day. arming teachers. so, he's enabling this -- he's helping create this sort of atmosphere that brings on these people. >> brennan: what did you think of the president's listening session this week, you were there, nicole. >> it was pathetic, frankly.

when he comes out with again, this crazy notion of arming teachers, teachers are going to quit before they carry a firearm in class. when you have to hold a note card that says, i hear you, i mean, come on. unimpressive to say the least. >> brennan: talking points are something many walk into a room with to get through that, but i appreciate your passion. all of you and for coming here and to share your personal stories. thank you, we want all of you to come to washington today for this conversation, we really appreciate all of being here and all of you watching. we'll be back.

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