captioning funded by cbs good morning. it's september 1st, 2018. welcome to "cbs this morning: saturday." saluting america's microwa ee's. this morning senator john mccain will receive a rare ceremony at the national cathedral. we're here with the live debut of the day's events. plus her celebration was fit for a queen. the queen of soul, aretha franklin gets a star-studded raucous and emotional eight-hour funeral.

renegotiating nafta. questions about whether president trump is operating in good faith after a leak shows he won't compromise with canada. breaking overnight, an arrest in a bizarre case of road rage. what led to this incident in the nation's capitol as a bus is the target of the attack. from seeing "star wars" under the stars. we'll take you inside the global phenomenon of watching movies with a live orchestra in some unique venues. but we begin this morning with a look at today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. today, our nation bows in grief. >> the nation says good-bye to senator john mccain. >> on behalf of the senate and the entire nation, thank you. >> we give thanks for your the consequential life of senator

john mccain. >> aretha franklin was remembered friday in a ceremony fit for a queen. >> now it's time to crown the queen. aretha, hand in your cross and pick up your crown. >> a leak of comments rocking any dwoesh united nations with canada over a possible new nafta agreement. >> at least canada knows how i feel, so it's fine. it's fine. >> in washington, d.c., a bad case of road rage. a woman smashing this greyhound bus. she repeatingly hits the bus driver with her car. police are still investigating this. >> authorities in texas released i have owe video of a bombing suspect. offers chased the suspect down in his car. he blew himself up. >> he is suspected of carjacking a truck. la p.d. arrested the man. >> all that -- >> an army veteran in hawaii celebrated his 100th birthday. >> he went skydiving.

>> welcome to college football weekend. >> one-handed grab and he scores. >> -- and all that matters -- >> flushing meadows was i electric tonight for the u.s. open, serena and venus under the lights. serena dominated her sister, 6-1, 6-2 in straight sets. >> -- on "cbs this morning: saturday." ♪ you make me feel you make me feel like a natural woman ♪ >> friends and family have been paying their final respects to aretha in detroit. ♪ i'll be loving you always >> buckingham palace paid its respect to frachg lynklin durin changing of the guard. and welcome to the weekend, everyone. i'm anthony mason along with

michelle miller and elaine quijano who's in for dana jacobson. welcome to the weekend, everyone. we begin with a tribute to senator john mccain. they said good-bye to one of the most revered. >> two former presidents will deliver eulogies for the senator in just a few hours. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. those go former presidents, barack obama and george w. bush. at mccain's request, the two men who beat him for the ones who pete him was a final bipartisan act for the arizona senator who game just the 31st dig na tair to lie in state at the u.s. capitol last night. a somber respectful and at times

emotional crowd filed through the capitol rotunda friday to say good-bye to senator john mark cain. fellow veteran rudy gartner came from alexandria, virginia. >> he always did roy he said he was going to do. he may have fought with our guys, but he had the good sense to come back later on and apologize. >> former colleagues and friends like ohio governor john kasich flew from all over the country. texas republican sam johnson who like mccain spent time as a prisoner of war in vietnam stepped off the scooter he normally relies on to join hands with democrat nancy pelosi and pay his respects. the heavens opened up friday morning as john mccain scaled the steps of the u.s. capitol for the last time. >> we give thanks for the consequential life of senator john mccain, a drum major for

courage, truth, and justice. >> reporter: the rare honor of lying in state was extended by the leaders of both parties who marveled at the senator's seemingly limitless energy. >> on a day like this, john would usually be bounding this way or that way, right through here, visitors turning to each other, asking if that's who they think it is. >> reporter: despite serious war wounds and multiple battles with cancer, mccain spent 35 years fighting to change the status quo on issues like torture, immigration, and government waste. >> i don't know what the deal was, but we'll fine out what the deal was, just like the deal we're cutting with these other organizations, which is full of lobbyists. >> airing our great debates is a gentle way to describe how john approached the work of a sena r senator. i've long joked that the hilton probably needed group therapy

after john was finished with them. >> reporter: in addition to the two former presidents, former president bill clinton will be here today along with vice presidents al gore and dick cheney and another formal gop dignitary bob dole. they'll make their way to the nation's k57 toll for a brief pause at the vetd ranns memorial where cindy mccain will lay a wreath for members who fell. senator mccain lay in state in a flag-draped coffin under the capitol dome since friday. chip reid is at the capitol with more. good morning. >> good morning. later this morning senator mccain's casket will be carried down those stairs behind me, and

he will be placed in a hearse and he will be taken from here briefly to the vietnam war memorial and then to the national cathedral for his memorial service there, which as you mention is a great honor that not many people get. yesterday lying in state here at the rotunda at the capitol for over the course of about eight or nine hours, thousands of people filed by to pay their last respects. i spent a lot of time talking to people, not just people in line but people working in the capitol. not just chiefs of staff. i'm talking about the guys who work the elevators and the guy who drives the subway back and forth between the russell senate office building and the capitol. they all knew him well. he knew them all by their first names. they're all going to miss him very badly. 's hard to imagine this place without senator john mccain. michelle? >> all right. chip reid at the capitol. thank you.

before he was in congress, john mccain spent 20 years in the navy. he was a vietnam war veteran and prisoner of war in vietnam for five years. mola lenghi has more from washington. mola, good morning. >> reporter: well, good morning. you know, senator john mccain often insisted he was not a hero. that's despite meeting every criteria for here oism. some survived that war obviously. others, their names are etched in black on the vietnam memorial behind us where the mccain family will stop this morning in a nod to the service and pay their respects to his vietnam veterans. this morning -- or i should say the late senator liked to stop be in the morning time, often at the time when the sun was rising, and he called the war memorial a place of healing and

reconciliation. the vietnam years were the most impactful not just on his military career but his entire life. we know about his story of vietnam and as a p.o.w. and how he refused to be released early until his members were released first. it was time of self-discovery. we remember a line from the presidential campaign where he said i fell in love with my country while a prisoner in another. he said he developed a sense of service to country, he developed a sense to serving a cause bigger than himself. john mccain's military life is as much a part of his legacy as his political life and in many ways, it was his military experience, in particular his vietnam era experience that shaped his view of public service. anthony? >> mola lenghi at the vietnam

veteran memorial. thanks, mola. stay with us throughout the morning for live korng throughout the morning of senator mccain. that coverage begins in just about an hour. now to the farewell of the queen of soul. aretha franklin was laid to rest in a mausoleum at a detroit cemetery friday. that followed several hours of tributes and songs earlier in the day at a packed megachurch on the outskirts of the city to celebrate the life of the queen of soul. demarco morgan was there. >> reporter: franklin arrived as only she could, watched over by a caravan of more than 100 pink cadillacs across a red carpet into the church. aretha franklin's home-going service was a joyful celebration of the queen of soul's life.

♪ i'm going to sing >> reporter: preachers an politicians took to the podium to remember the lives she touched. >> aretha, hand in your cross and pick up your crown. ♪ >> she took this massive talent and perfect culture that raised her and decided to be the composer of her own life song, and what a song it turned out to be. >> reporter: smokey robinson sang his tribute. ♪ really gonna miss you it's really gonna be different without you ♪ >> reporter: but perhaps her grandchildren said it best. >> it feels amazing to see a woman so fierce, so courageous,

gifted, so respected, and to be able to call that my grandmother, to know that i have that running through my blood, and that she's a part of who i am. ♪ you make me feel li you make me feel like a natural woman ♪ >> i'm so proud of you. i know you be watching me from the windows in heaven, and i promise to carry our family legacy with pride and joy. long live the queen. >> reporter: thousands of fans waited for hours to grab one of thousands of seats set aside for them. for those who couldn't, a nearby gas station with makeshift jumbotron became a makeshift sanctuary. ♪

>> reporter: all benefiting the 18-time grammy winner who passed away two weeks ago at the age of 76. ♪ >> reporter: she will certainly be missed. when it was done her body was escorted to the wood london cemetery. that's where she'll be buried with her father and two sisters along with rosa parks. >> oh. that word "fierce." she was all that. and those shoes -- i tell you, the red louboutins that first day and her laid out -- >> aretha loved fashion. >> she loved her sense of flair with a shoe. >> fitting a queen really. >> it was a fitting treatment to aretha. she deserved all that and really

more. she did. >> to other news. defense lawyers are asking probation for their cliechblt george papadopoulos pleaded guilty last year to lying the fbi. prosecutors say he should serve at least some prison time. in a new claim lawyers for papadopoulos said, mr. trump, quote, nodded with approval when papadopoulos said he could facilitate a meeting between the republican president and russian president vladimir putin. >> the lobbyist who admitted brokering access to president trump's inauguration for a pro-russian ukrainian oligarch is the latest catch by special counsel robert mueller's russian investigation. samuel patten faces up to five years in prison after pleading guilty in fed wral court in washington friday. it marks the first time prosecutors have made a connection between a foreign interest appearing to buy

influence in the new administration. patten once worked for former trump campaign chair paul manafort. he was convicted last month of multiple counts of bank fraud and tax evasion. president trump is spending the holiday weekend at the white house with trade concerns likely on his mind. trade talks between the u.s. and canada hit a snag on friday after a canadian newspaper obtained off-the-record remark mrs. trump made to bloomberg new. that raises doubts about the future of the 25-year-old north american free trade agreement. paula reid is at the white house. paula, tell us all about it. >> good morning. trump note feed congress on friday he plans to sign a renegotiated nafta deal reached with mexico this week with or without canada where a deal remains uncertain after a tense week of negotiations. as of right now, there is no deal. >> canada's ripping us off. the whole world is ripping us

off. >> reporter: president trump spent the day in charlotte, north carolina, friday, spotlighting tensions with canada as he tries to fulfill a longstanding promise to renegotiate nafta. >> nafta is a disaster. >> reporter: a by lateral deal was reached with mexico on monday, but talks with canada have stalled over issues including nafta's dispute resolution system and access to canada's dare market. >> i said off the record some things about canada. >> reporter: to make matters worse, the toronto star on friday published some harsh words the president made during a "bloomberg news" interview in which he said he would not compromise with canada on a trade deal but didn't want his comments published because it's going to be so insulting they're not going to be able to make a deal. >> here's the good news. we can't have these countries taking advantage of the united states anymore. it's very simple. >> we will only sign a deal if

it is a good deal for canada. again, no deal is better than a bad deal for canada and for canadians, and that's exactly what we're remaining firm on. >> reporter: talked will resume in washington on wednesday, but congressional approval is needed. both leaders say both mexico and canada must be part of any revised agreement. >> paula reid at the white house. thank you. greyhound is weighing in this morning on that deadly bus crash into a tractor trailer in new mexico, which killed at least eight people. in a state statement the company says it is deeply saddened by the incident and is cooperating with federal transportation investigators and local authorities to determine what happened. remarkably the driver of the truck survived that head-on crash and is telling his story to our don dahler. >> reporter: he was hall hauling produce from california to tennessee when his semi blew a

tire and then things got real bad, real quick. >> it just locked up? when did you see the bus in front of you. >> i southeastern where i was going right away. i was trying everything i could to avoidet. >> reporter: the greyhound bus was in the westbound lane of i-40 near new mexico. the semi weighing over 70,000 pounds crossed over the medial and slammed into the greyhound. >> did you think you were going to die? >> yep. i was surprised that i made it. >> reporter: rachel cunningham was on the bus. >> people were kind of thrown everywhere. people were spinning and panicking. >> reporter: a doctor was also on i-40 coming back from a hiking trip. when you saw that bus looking like it looked, you must have known it was going to be bad. >> i was expecting a lot of very critical casualties, but i was

thoroughly impressed with the respoens we had seen. >> reporter: the response not just by emts and police, but passers-by who used ladders to pull people from the demolished bus. the ntsb is now on site and investigating but they have not interviewed the bus driver. he says the new mexico state police have. >> i passed a urine test. >> you were clean? >> yeah. >> is there anything you want to say to these families? >> i'm sorry. i mean i don't know if i could do anything to change it. i would, but can't. >> reporter: of the more than 30 people who were injured, 15 are still hospitalized including a young woman who was pregnant and went into labor after the crash. she and her new twins are doing okay. for "cbs this morning: saturday," don dahler, new

mexico. >> it's remarkable so many people did survive the crash. the "los angeles times" reports police are investigating the fatal shooting of actress vanessa marquez, best known for playing nurse wendy goldman on the tv show kwchlt e.r." she apparently was having a seizure and declined to seek medical help during a 90-minute conversation with police and a local health official at her south pasadena home. at one point she reached for a gun and pointed it at the officers. that's when they returned fire. it turns out to be a bb gun. the "tallahassee democrat" reports a neo-nazi group is making robocalls to voters in florida claiming to impersonate democratic gubernatorial candidate andrew gill lum. the calls end with a disclaimer they were funded by an anti-semitic white supremacist

group. gill lum's republican poentd ron desantis says the robocallest is absolutely appalling and disgusting. "usa today" reports researchers and harvard universe are teaming up with google to try and determine aftershocks from earth quakes. the group is creating algorithms by way of artificial intelligence to analyze a database of earthquakes around the world and then prodikt where aftershocks might happen. one researcher warns the effort is still a long way from being able to forecast aftershocks in real time. and the new york time reports the trail blazing weekly newspaper, "the village voice" co-founded by the late norman mailer nearly 60 years ago is going to bed for good. credited with paving the way for le left-leaning alternative newspapers across the country, the voice ended its print edition last august and will now pull the plug online.

known for its investigate ivg journalism, art reviews and extensive classified ads for decades, its owner says the enigma of making a profit online forced him to shut down. it's about 22 after the hour. now here's a look at the weather for your weekend. still ahead this morning, road rage caught on camera. >> what led to this bizarre incident in the nation'll capitol as a passenger bus is the target of a violent attack. plus, it was hardly the legal touchdown the nfl was hoping for. we'll see how colin kaepernick's case could be headed for a lengthy court battle.

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starts pounding on the driver's side window and then takes another shot at a side mirror before walking back to her car. but it doesn't end there. in fact, it escalates. the bus driver wearing a blue shirt stands in front of her car while trying to call police. the suspect attempts to drive away. a greyhound bus passenger was recording with his cellphone. >> it was just scary, scary. she started going awol. she tried going inside the bus, but the bus was locked. >> reporter: witnesses tried to intervene. the bus driver jumps on her car, but she speeds off, throwing him to the ground. he suffered scrapes and bruises. according to the most recent aaa study, nearly 80% of drivers express significant anger, aggression, or road rage behind the wheel at least once in the

past year. this video is a graphic example of that and one thing police advice you never to do is stand in the way. for "cbs this morning: saturday," jeff pegues, washington. really good advice pegues. i don't know why that driver stood in front of the car. >> what was he trying to do? stop it? after she goes after him. >> can you imagine being a passenger on the bus? frightening. >> a bizarre incident. all right. here's a look at the weather for your weekend. we've been hearing the term "collusion" in our national politics, but it's also the

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venus, 6-1, 6-2 to advance to the fourth round at the u.s. open. >> spotted at the match were former san francisco 49ers colin kaepernick and eric reid. they were introduced on the big screen at arthur ashe stadium and received an ovation from the crowd. kaepernick began a wave of protests in 2016 when he took a knee during the "national anthem" to protest racial injustice. he was later joined in the protests by reid. >> kaepernick and reid are not currently on nfl rosters. this week an arbitrator ruled that kaepernick's case against the league can continue. the nfl was hoping the suit should be dropped. the issue of players protesting during the anthem tonights to polarize the nation. a new poll out friday shows just

how deeply divided the country is on the issue. >> joining us to discuss this is andrew brandt, a former vice president of the green bay parkers. he's now a columnist at "sports illustrated" and is director of the moorad center for sports law at villanova universe. good morning. >> good morning. >> has it been a surprise? >> it's been going on. as you know it's a hot-button issue. he won a case that says this goesforward. the nfl says they've been through depositions anlz discovery. the nfl said they don't have anything. they said, yeah, we do have something. the good news for kaepernick, we now have it going forward. we're going to have more discovery, more deposition to see what the nfl department do. the bad news is collusion is tough to prove. he has to show go or more teams being koluszive in saying don't sign this guy. it's not enough for a team to

say, we liked other quarterbacks. we looked at kaepernick. we like this guy. we like this other guy. that's not collusion. so the legal standard is a tough one. do i think this is punitive? i do. do i think this meets the legal standard of collusion? i don't. >> we talk about these polls that just came out, and they paint a pretty tough picture on the divisiveness of this issue, surprise, surprise. so internally, how is the nfl dealing with this? >> they've been dealing with it for a couple of years. the policy is players are not required but encouraged to stand for the nfl unlike the nba who says you're required. they've been back and forth. i think the owners, i think the networks, i think a lot of fans, a lot of sponsors want to sort of stick to sports, and i think the owners also want to be mindful of the players'

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in our morning rounds this morning, people diagnosed with dementia often become more homebound as their conditions progress, but one program is giving patient as new and joyous way to step back into life by literally giving voice to both patients and their caregivers. cl bs news chief medical correspondent jon lapook has their story. >> reporter: the music is lyrical. the lyrics uplifting. through song and spirit, these chorus members share a particular bond. >>'ve been living with alzheimer's for 14 years. >> dementia is a tough word. >> the giving voice chorus, 170 strong, is composed of people with alzheimer's. their care-giving partners and a handful of volunteers.

>> so often we're told what we can't do, but here it's about what we can do. >> he says though he has trouble rememb remembering, he can still think and recall the emotions in a song like lullaby." >> how can that not strike your heart. >> "lover's lullaby" is one of the songs dmigsed by the chorus and premiered at a concert in st. paul, minnesota. the singers are defying conventional wisdom that they can't learn new things. >> it's very, very good for getting their brain working. >> michael brodie was diagnosed three years ago at age 79. he's always loved to sing. at first his wife jane wanted him to go solo.

>> i said, michael can come. he said, no, there are no wrongs in this room. a lot of people have had shame about alzheimer's. it almost was something that was kind of in the closet for a while. and i think the chorus has a way to bring people out to say, hey, we're just like everybody else. >> is there something that happens from the music that kind of greases the wheels? >> yeah, i think so. i have no idea how all that works. i am really glad that that is there. >> come pouter victor and luis each lost a parent to the disease. >> every single song, we can point to the line or the image that came from them. >> to hear so thoughts that they have to come back in the form of a beautiful song, it must be just stunning.

>> oh, yeah. >> they keep pulling us aside and saying, you've given us a voice. >> the haunting ballad was inspired by care-giver. >> it was like i was in the boat with feelings of fear and isolati isolation. >> the chorus for her is a safe harbor. >> because it really sums up the whole experience of both the stormy days, the uncertainty, but yet the kind of bedrock of friendship and family, and somehow knowing it's going to be all right. >> for "cbs this morning," 2kr6789 jon lapook, 126789 paul, minnesota. >> i remember him telling me when he was going out to do the story. it's so interesting because i

remember doing a story with the late singer glen campbell and keep performing with it and doctors were saying the music uses a different pathway in your brain and he kept going and it was extraordinary. >> reconnecting. >> yeah. >> reconnecting them to their lives. >> that they could learn at this point in their lives. >> well, it's one car that deserves to be called a hot rod. get it? singer rod stewart was the original owner of the cool ride, and that means it'll command a premium price at its upcoming auction. we'll kick the tires of that and other rock stars' cars just ahead. you're watching "cbs this morning: saturday." and the wolf huffed and puffed... like you do sometimes, grandpa? well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. so my doctor said...

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the truth is that, yes, there's an extent to which we ask someone for their help or asking them to put in effort or take time. for the most part, we're really overestimating that. we're focusing only on that and not thinking how rewarding that is. there's tons of research to show that there's basically nothing human beings do that's more rewarding. so people actually like helping. they get a warm glow. they get a kick out of it. >> but i feel you're putting people on the spot. >> i mean to some extent you are. there is a discomfort when people have to say no and that is part of the reason why asking over email or text is a bad idea because they're not as honor the spot. it's easier for you to ask about

email because you feel more comfortable. it's easier to say no because they feel so comfortable. >> so important pick up the phone. >> in fact, you've got data that shows it's 30 times more effective if you ask in person. >> yeah. in person or by phone. live interaction. 30 times more likely to get a yes. we do that all the time. they'll ask by email. the worst thing is to send a group email, send ang email to 20 asking one of them to help and they ignore it because they think they've been helped. >> heidi, let me ask you this. someone once said you can separate the world into two groups, the one who asks and doesn't mind or the other who shrinks off. are there certain traits you have? >> i think it's life experience and the people who ask have caught on to the fact that it's very difficult to be successful in life without asking for a lot of help, so they kind of built

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welcome to "cbs this morning: saturday." i'm anthony mason with michelle miller and elaine quijano who's in for dana jacobson. coming up this half hour, right now the national cathedral is getting ready for the funeral of john mccain. more on today's events and ta talk of the senator's life and legacy. >> imagine waiting years for something to arrive in the mail. we'll see where that happened. plus, keeping score. it's a thrilling twist on going

to the movies where the action on the screen is part of the show. see how live symphony orchestras are creating a soundtrack for movie fans around the world. that's ahead. first the latest on the top story. this morning he'll be honored at a service of the national cathedral where two former presidents will speak. late last night at the capitol rotunda, thousands of mourners continues to line up to pay their respects. nancy cordes is at the national cathedral in washington. nancy, good morning. >> good morning, anthony. they've just begin to let the gets in to the national cathedral. they've been lined up for quite some time. the mccain motorcade should be arrived here within the next couple of hours. in addition to the tribute from the two former presidents today,

president obama and george w. bush we're going to hear from henry kissinger and joseph lieberman, a long-time friend of mccain who he even considered tapping as his vice president at running mate in 2008 on a bipartisan tick. mccain's casket was watched over by the military honor guard at the nation's capitol overnight. thousands stopped by to pay their respects. thousands of politicians from around the country were there. they admire his politics, drive, heroism at war. so much has been on national debate for the past 35 years. today here at the cathedral, we'll have the opportunity to hear for the first time some thoughts from mccain's grieving family. his daughter megan will speak and pay tribute at the very start of the service. michelle. >> all right. we will be watching. nancy cordes at the national

cathedral in washington. thank you. on the way to the national cathedral as john mccain requested. his motorcade will pause at the vietnam veteran memorial. his wife cindy will place a wreak at the wall to honor the u.s. armed forces who were killed in the vietnam war. the wall is inscribed with the names of more than 58,000 americans who died in combat. mccain was a navy pilot and was held for more than five years as a prisoner of war in north vietnam. >> for more on jock mccain, we're joined by cbs co-host john dickerson. good morning. >> good morning, anthony. >> john, you've spent a lot of time covering john mccain over the years. to what degree is the service that's going to be happening a reflect of what john mccain is all about? >> well, he authored it in a sense. he asked former president bush and obama to speak at his service and it tells you two things, just those two voices. one, these are people against

whom he ran bitter campaigns, and having covered both of them and having heard them talk, he's said things you cannot repeat in polite company and he was a competitor, and so let's not mistake the way he foutz those campaigns. when they were done, however, he tried his best to work with those two presidents and he became close to both of them in very specific ways. so that's -- part of his legacy and anybody who tried to normalize relations with vietnam, the country who held him for five and a half years, that's in keeping with that, but it's also a symbol, very much in keeping with the famous speech he gave on the senate floor, talking about regular war. in the end, trying to do the best thing for the country. and so the symbolism of this service is meant to match that message. >> and to that point, john, he called 4i78s an imperfect public

servant, and his ability to change his mind really struck me. i want to go to that point because i remember the mlk holiday vote and i remember that he was against it and yet he turned around during the 2008 campaign saying we can be slow as well to give greatness its due, a mistake i made. i was wrong and eventually realized it. and i remind you that we can all be a little late sunshine soms the right time. what did you take on his ability to change subjects? >> it reminds me a little bit of a churchill quote which i'll paraphrase. america always does the right thing. it just takes a while to get around to doing it. this was true too when mccain said it was a symbol of heritage

to keep himself viable in the republican ranks after he lost the run for president. he went back down and said i was wrong. this is something we don't see much in politic, which is politicians saying they're wrong, but also this was a part of trying to maintain a standard. he believed in standards of personal conduct and also institutional conduct, that you tried to keep the standard, and when you fell, you acknowledged it and tried to hold that standard up again, which is to do as you politically please and redefine the standard so you don't have to explain yourself. he was hard on himself. >> john, you had an up close look at him. you had a chance to cover him on the straight talk express and you had pretty unfettered access to him from what i understand. i wonder if that exists today or if there's a politician that you can think of that is as

accessful as john mccain was to reporters? >> it doesn't exist today. it didn't exist in 2008. that was one of the promises and challenges. when you talk to the people who served with him, they said after the war, mccain was starving to learn as much as he could about the war and make up for lost time. he maintained that energy and that thrust for his entire life and that's what covering him on the campaign was like. it was one long rolling conversation and it was all over the map from literature to film to stories and that energy is really at the heart of my recollections of that time period. and then also on this somber day, it is very important to remember his wit. in his 5 1/2 years in captivity, he was the storyteller. they didn't have any other entertainment. so he would tell stories. we talked to john, one of his cellmates who on christmas he played scrooge in their rendition of a christmas carol.

that story-telling was at the heart of both his political success and what he used to do in the back of the bus. >> john dickerson in washington this morning for us. thanks for being with us. stay with cbs news throughout the morning. in just 20 minutes this show will be abbreviate and we will go to washington for a special report on senator mccain's memorial service at the national cathedral. >> now to a fountain of good-byes from the queen of soul. it was an eight-hour parade of a-list celebrities who offered a fond farewell to aretha franklin. from gladys knight, the reverend al sharpton and snowstormer president bill clinton.

>> she took this massive talent and decided to be the come pesser pe -- composer of her own life song. what a song it turned out to be. >> hand in your cross and pick up your crown. >> franklin arooived as only she could, watched over by a caravan of 100 pink cadillacs across a red carpet into the church. >> the pastor who officiated at franklin's funeral has apologized. bush ol' charles ellis said he was sorry for touching ariana grande on stage and making a joke about her name. it shows his arms around her with his fingers around the left side of her chest. he said, this is the last thing i want to do. this is all about aretha

franklin. and the tribute to the queen was not lost on buckingham palace. the palace guards band belted out "respect" during the changing of the guards ceremony. >> i'll have you know i insisted we show this. >> she is the queen. it's quite a gesture. >> what a nod. >> it's about ten after the hour. now here's a look at the weather for your weekend. mail call in the middle east. that means a special delivery for a most unusual reason. some of these items were sent to their recipients almost a decade

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if you think the mail can sometimes be slow, consider this. letters, packages sent from jordan eight years ago are finally reaching their intended destination. >> reporter: a dusty mail roon in jericho is buzzing back to life, everything from letters to wheelchairs, thousands of mail sacks from all over the world sifted through and sorted, then loaded on schoolers, winding

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that was the dallas symphony orchestra just last night performing the score to jurassic park while the movie was played for an audience. jamie wax is here with more. jamie, good morning. >> good morning, anthony. that's right. live film scoring has become a fan favorite and a way for elite orchestras like the los angeles philharmonic to build a new generation of fans. a short time ago in a galaxy just a freeway ride away 18,000

kids both young and old were welcomed to the hollywood bowl by a cast of characters for a theatrical experience like no other. >> when the lightsabers go on and the energy comes back to the stage, i mean -- there's no way to explain that. >> for four nights in august the epic "star wars" scores by composer john williams were performed live with the movies, by the los angeles philharmonic and conductor david newman. >> conductors love to control the tempo of what they conduct and you lose that ability when you are performing a live score. >> yes, yes. >> what are the challenges of conducting a score while the film's going on? >> it's thrilling. it's exactly the opposite of what you think it would be. performing film music, you need to be more aggressive in a way. and that doesn't mean loud or soft necessarily, each if it's

soft, it just needs to be really focused. >> reporter: newman has composed the scores of almost 100 films. his father, the pioneering hollywood composer al fred newman helped define the genre during a 20-ier run as music director of 20th century fox. >> how being is this trend? >> right now it's huge. >> reporter: five years ago two companies began taking these concerts on the road, sin concerts produce shows in 48 countries. they've screened gladiator in rome at the coliseum. and harry potter at royal albert hall in london. while film concerts live works with orchestras around the world to show indication 16 movies, including six scores composed by john williams. >> i think my father's generation, even john's

generation, are absolutely flabbergasted by this. film music was always the kind of second, third, fourth, you know -- it was really looked down on. >> reporter: that slowly began to change with "star wars." >> so in 1980, orchestras are very grumpy about playing film music. they don't want to play film music because they don't think it's very good. >> reporter: when williams who studied under alfred newman at fox, he took over the boston pops and he used the orchestra to present new campo sessions for the "empire strikes back." >> and then year after year, he whittles away at it, teaches them what it is. i think what's happening now is unthinkable without john actually willing to go to the boston pops and deal with that.

>> i think it's important to keep future generations interested and this is one excellent way to do it and it's beautiful music. we enjoy playing it. >> christopher still has been with the orchestra since 2007. >> do you have some memorable audience reactions over the years? >> well, i think there's something to be said for being a performer and having people appla applaud. that's always nice, right? but when darth vader comes onto the screen and you have people booing at you at the top of their lungs, that leaves a mark. that's a great moment for you. >> reporter: flm scoring can be traced back to some of the great classical composers of the 190s. -- 1930s. >> all of these really famous europeans who are fleeing europe

come to hollywood. but they're not willing to make the music subservient to the film. so i think that generation now seeing what's happening, i think they would be elated obviously. >> reporter: newman is encouraged by the art form he's spent a lifetime pursuing. it's always a combination of a bunch of moving parts to make something greater than all of the parts put together. and there's something profoundly meaningful about that. i don't know how to describe it any other way. when it works, there's nothing artistically that i've ever come across that's like that. >> if you're interested in finding a live film concert, the website "movies in concert" lists every upcoming show around the world and there are a lot of them. if you're in los angeles, john williams is celebrating his 40th anniversary playing the hollywood bowl with concert this weekend.

>> sign me up, sign me up. it's a brilliant idea. my goodness. >> there is no downside to it. everyone i've talked to -- >> my two fwavt things, film and music. >> this was the way in for a lot of these classical musicians into their instrument and into classical music. >> you were telling us as the piece was playing this is actually cheaper. >> it is. you usually had to bring in a big headliner to pay for your more challenging pieces for the stuff you did, to keep your classical repertoire up to date. now this is a great experience for people. it's a classical version of the drive-in movie. >> thanks for bringing that to us, jamie. >> all right. everyone. have a wonderful labor day weekend. we'll see you next week.

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♪ this is a cbs news special report. good morning. i'm margaret brennan in washington. america is saying farewell to john mccain, vietnam war hero, u.s. senator, and two-time presidential candidate who died of brain cancer one week ago at 81. today is the fourth of five days of tributes, and shortly, his

casket will be moved from the u.s. capitol where he lay in state yesterday. a motorcade will then take it to washington national cathedral, stopping along the way at the vietnam veterans memorial, where the mccain family will lay a wreath and then later this morning senator mccain's life will be celebrated by family and friends at a memorial service at washington's national cathedral. joining me here in our washington bureau is cbs contributor bob schieffer, john dickerson, the co-host of "cbs this morning," and cbs news political correspondent ed o'keefe. it's so good to have you all here. i know senator mccain was so often at the table talking to so many of us here. and bob, you've known him for so many years. you covered him. what we're watching today, it feels like a head of state. >> it really does. and when you look at the guest list for the funeral here today, the people, the foreign leaders

who have come here, it's like when a president dies or something. i can't recall when a senator has had this kind of a turnout. i mean, people from all over eastern europe, the president of ukraine, one after the other coming here. and i think it's just testament to the high regard in which he was held, not just in our country, but around the world. >> presidents, prime ministers, as you say, from eastern europe in particular. the symbolism not lost, that john mccain was a defense hawk, but a strong sort of moral leader on the diplomacy side, john, when it came to standing up to vladimir putin. >> well, that's right. and we'll hear today the kinds of words, the big words that we use in american life to talk about the key american things -- courage, honor, duty, patriotism. and it won't just be the kinds of words that a speech writer writes. john mccain carried in his bones, the broken ones, his duty, courage, and honor in the

service of his country. and so, this is -- it's all the people who are attending, but also just in the language and in what we're going to hear really gets at the core of what we celebrate as a nation, and that's a part of what's happening today as well. >> and no part of today's ceremony is accidental. the senator himself really orchestrated each step of this. >> that's right. well, his famous last kind of big speech in the senate was about regular order, the idea that democrats and republicans would fight like heck but still follow some basic rules. and his having a democratic and a republican president speak, two people against whom he fought like heck, echoes that message, and that was all designed by john mccain. >> and ed, we are waiting for the senator's coffin, casket, to be carried out of the capitol, of course, where he lain in state yesterday and also served for more than 30 years. what do you think his legacy is as a legislator? >> arguably, the last old lion of the senate or old bull, one

of those really institutional t institutionalists who held the place together and had great reverence and respect for congress and for what it is supposed to be for the country and someone who, frankly, in the last 18 years, especially i think since his 2000 campaign, to quote from "hamilton," was always in the room where it happened. whether it worked or not, he was someone who was always involved and someone you needed to be involved in order to get things done, especially in the senate. >> you know, that's such a good point, because i've heard some people actually say, i like john mccain, but why is he getting this much attention? john mccain was involved, was a voice or a participant in most of the major events of the last 50 years, starting with his time as a prisoner in vietnam. he was a part of the debate. he was one of the proponents. he was an opponent. but his voice was always part of the conversation. >> he was always in the fight.

>> yes. >> i know outside the capitol we are seeing the mccain family arrive. i want to go now to cbs news correspondent chip reid, who is standing by at the u.s. capitol where the senator's casket will soon be brought out in preparation for the motorcade. chip, i know you covered the senator for many years on the campaign trail, and this last journey today. what are you seeing on the ground? >> reporter: well, what i'm seeing behind me is over here, the waiting casket, and over here is the motorcade, members of his family are arriving. in just a matter of minutes, his casket will be carried down the east steps, the east front steps of the capitol by what are known as the armed forces body bearers, a group of servicemen who train endlessly. keep your eye on them. they are absolutely flawless. every move is made with military precision. it's a way of giving the dignity and the honor to people like john mccain, who have really earned it. they will place the casket in

the hearse. it will exit by the north exit to the capitol plaza, followed by the motorcade. and one interesting thing to keep your eye on is as he makes that left-hand turn onto constitution avenue, where people are already lining up to pay their last respects, he will pass the russell senate office building. there is a proposal in the senate now to change the name of that building to the mccain senate office building. there are only three senate office buildings. that would be a high honor, indeed. it's not clear that it will pass. there has been some resistance, including some from members of his own party. it's really being pushed by democrats more than republicans. but what an honor it would be if that becomes the mccain senate office building. you said he spent a lot of time here. he loved this place. i believe it was 32 years as a senator, four years as a member of the house and two years, at least, as the navy liaison to the senate. he loved this place.

it's going to be hard to imagine it without him. margaret? >> and we are watching the casket here. let's pause as we watch the military honor guard escort him out from the capitol for one last time.

>> we've been talking about the senator and his history, his legacy as a legislator, but really, the mccain family has such a history of its own with the military. john mccain himself the son and

grandson of four-star admirals. one member of the mccain family has fought in every u.s. war going all the way back to the revolution. and his sons continue to serve as well as his daughter-in-law. so, we talk about him as a prisoner of war, as a decorated naval officer, but as someone who has deep ties, deep respect, and a lot of service to the history of defense of this country. >> john mccain was brought up with the idea that he would serve, just as his fat and his grandfather had. that's what his mother expected of him. it was just a family tradition. and it was what made -- it was the loadstar of his life, service to his country. he always said the best life is one where you become part of something larger than yourself. that's why his favorite novel, of course, was "for whom the

bell tolls." and he read it first when he was 12 years old, and it remained what he aspired to be right to the very end. >> on the campaign trail, he would take that message and say to people, i've lived a life of service, and you can, too, even if you don't go in the military, that he would try to be a bridge between the commitments of the military life into which he was born and the commitment every citizen can make, and that's what drew people to him, this idea that there were causes greater than your self-interest, as bob mentioned it, and that we are all as americans able to get involved in those causes and that we all should, and that's what you saw catch fire for him as a political candidate when he ran for president. >> you can see, just explain what you've been watching as they put the casket into the hearse there. because it is a drizzly day in washington, there was a plastic covering there that blew off onto one of the men in uniform

there and was removed quickly. you see them now still marching off with such precision. senator mccain, the 31st individual to lie in state at the u.s. capitol, the very first honor given to such a senator was to henry clay back in 1852. and a decision senator mccain made he wanted to have celebrated yesterday and what many saw a decision to emphasize bipartisanship at a time of great division in our country. >> absolutely. and the laying of the wreathes from members of both parties that lead the house and the senate, a small token of that bipartisanship and the strong turnout there from current and former members. several governors were there, rick scott of florida, larry hogan from maryland, former senators as well. >> that's right. >> some who still live here in washington, but others who flew into town for this. and a fair amount of the

diplomat diplomat diplomatic core here in washington. they are always invited to these types of events and he's one in the rotunda who might have known all of them by name, and who showed up. >> they were there. >> a great advocate for american diplomacy as well. i want to go to chip reid, our correspondent there at the capitol right now. chip, can you describe for us what the feeling is there? i mean, we hear the silence itself that is so powerful, but tell us what you are seeing. >> it is. the silence itself is so powerful. i am seeing family members get in three vans that are positioned in the motorcade to follow the hearse out onto constitution avenue where people have already gathered to pay their last respects. i saw meghan mccain, who we have all seen has been extremely emotional through this. when i covered the mccain campaign back in 2008, she was there constantly.

she was always by her father's side. cindy mccain, senator mccain's wife, also got into the van. yesterday there were about 21 members of the family. not quite as many this time. i don't think there were any grandchildren here. he has five grandchildren and seven children, as you know, and lots of spouses and a brother and a sister, and of course, his 106-year-old mother, roberta, who is listed in the press guide as 106 years young, which is very much a statement of fact. i did not see her here. i'm not sure if any of you did, but they are waiting for the hearse to begin moving behind the police escort and then head out on to constitution avenue, this the final good-bye to john mccain from the place that he loved so much. >> and ed, i know you'd been doing some reporting around this. roberta mccain really captured so much attention yesterday because she appeared so stoic. >> absolutely, and really

gripping the hand of meghan mccain through most of that ceremony in the rotunda. i was told by somebody close to the family that afterward, she actually gave a pep talk and told everyone in the family and some other friends, don't be glum, don't be downtrodden, her son had a great life, she said. the family has great faith and they're going to be strong through all of this. she lives here in washington, which is why she wasn't in arizona earlier in the week, but it was quite a sight to see yesterday. and you think about people who are iconic in american history, and then you think about the people behind them. she's a woman who, you know, mother of a senator, daughter-in-law of an admiral, wife of an admiral, somebody who played a critical role in propping up really important people. >> and we think of him being the son of an admiral and the grandson of an admiral. he was really a mama's boy, to hear him tell it. she was the great influence in his life. and he just loved her. he loved -- you know, i can remember, you know, when i was up covering the senate, sometimes if she'd do something,

he'd stop you and say, you know what she did this morning? it was really fun to talk to him about that, and he just, he loved her to death. >> on this day of somber remembrance, it's important, that imitation bob just did -- he was always having fun. he was always stopping you to tell you a story, always out of the side of his mouth a little bit. and that spark, that energy, that comes from his mother. >> he was nothing, if not irreverent. he would have gotten a kick out of this saying are they going to rename the russell building. say you know, when i came to washington, those buildings didn't have a name. they were the new senate office building and the russell was the old senate office building, and mccain always pointed out, he always called it the old s.o.b., which is where his office was. >> yes. and google already renamed it. if you pull up your google map here in washington this week, it's already called the mccain senate office building. >> there was a makeshift

memorial when i was in the office building this week. there was a memorial. people had just come to the edge of the russell senate office building to leave flowers and to leave notes and letters in remembrance of the senator. >> and there is some debate over exactly how to honor senator mccain. and i know, john, you were talking to his dear friend, lindsey graham, this week about just that, and he said he'd actually like to see some legislation result from this moment. >> well, he suggested maybe immigration reform might be something. that was one of those. we were talking about mccain being at the heart of every fight. that was certainly one of them, immigration reform. we'll tick off a few others later. >> a fight he never won. >> just like he didn't win the tobacco fight. just like his fight for campaign finance reform was essentially hollowed out by the courts. a lot of those fights are fights that he tried and either won and had a pushback or was unable to win. but lindsay said he wanted to

name that because all visitors would come and learn about the life of john mccain, but also in keeping with the reference bob talked about, john mccain didn't like -- this is the first time i ever reported about him was about budget matters. he didn't like overspending. he didn't like the capitol visitors' center at all. so, lindsey thought naming it after him would be the nice, final, little ribbing to him because he hated the expenditure of the people's money on that visitors' center. >> a sense of humor there as we watch the motorcade proceed. we know that the senator had spent a great deal of time over the past year that he has been battling, 13 months exactly, that he has been battling brain cancer, to think about how he wanted to spend this final trip through washington, bob, and what he wanted to pay homage to with his life. and i think, you know, it is very significant, a decision on his part to go from the capitol to the vietnam war memorial

before he goes on to the cathedral itself, not just because of the history he has, 5 1/2 years as a prison of war in vietnam. you were talking about his mother. i know in some of his own writings about his parents, his mom didn't -- at first, she didn't think he'd survived being shot down, and it was his father who said, no, he survived. but can you imagine as a parent through all of that, knowing that your child -- >> well, she always said, we're navy tough. >> we're navy tough. >> that's what she would say. and he certainly was. >> well, we know that the motorcade is, as i said, heading next to the vietnam veterans memorial. some 58,000 names inscribed there on the walls of that memorial to those killed, to those missing. >> and john mccain used to make regular visits to the memorial in the morning, just quietly without any, you know, fanfare

or anything, but made quiet and regular visits to the memorial to remember to visit with other families that were there. so, this is a part of his, you know, this would have been part of his regular washington life, too, a stop by the memorial. >> we're going to go now to our correspondent who is at the vietnam veterans memorial, mola lenghi. mola, what are you seeing there? i know yesterday veterans were lined up at the capitol to pay their respects. what are we seeing at the memorial today? >> reporter: well, good morning, margaret. despite the imperfect weather here on the national mall, we're seeing a similar line that we saw yesterday at the capitol. right over my shoulder, you can see folks lined up, sort of establishing a wall there between us and the vietnam memorial, all out here to pay their respects. people looking on, trying to get as close as possible. it is quiet, solemn out here at the moment. there are vietnam veterans we've seen, sailors in their dress whites, all waiting for the

mccain family, who, as you mentioned, on their way, arriving here at any moment to pay their respects. it's a nod to the senator's service coming out here to lay the wreath and to pay their respects to, as you mentioned, the 58,000 veterans whose names are engraved on that wall behind us. you mentioned this is a very conscious stop, deliberate stop that is being made here at the vietnam memorial. and the late senator, as you guys also mentioned, liked to come out here without any sort of fanfare, without publicity, liked to come out here, sometimes early in the morning, to pay his respects. he liked to come out late in the evening as the sun was setting, he said, and described this location as a place of healing. but he did admit that it took him a while to sort of come around. at first, he described thinking the design was a little bleak, but then he'd tell a story about coming out here one morning and looking on and seeing a couple veterans who clearly didn't seem to know each other but struck up

a conversation, and he sort of looked on as they talked a little bit and came to quickly realize that they served at the same time, in the same location in vietnam, and they embraced. and before the end of the conversation, they were emotional and they were embracing. and senator mccain described as knowing that was the moment where he realized that this place was everything that they had hoped it would be, everything that they wanted it to be. it was a place of healing and a place of reconciliation. and this morning it is a place where, as we said, a few hundred folks are out here waiting for the mccain family so they can look on and pay their respects and say their farewells. >> and we're looking at some of the photos that we know were released of his 5 1/2 years in captivity. 3 1/2 years in solitary confinement during that time at what is referred to as the hanoi hilton, as a prisoner of war. and i know, bob, you covered the war firsthand.

and so much of the conversation about the war has changed in this country. >> yeah. >> and john mccain played a very big role in doing that, in ending the war about the war. >> he played an enormous role in that. he was, as you all know, was very important and played a key role in getting the remains of many of the missing back into this country. and then, of course, john mccain went to vietnam and asked and forgave his captors, the people who had tortured him. and because of that, it speeded up our ability to re-establish relations with vietnam. we would have done it. it would have taken time. but he sped that along and played a key role in that. and i always thought that john mccain, through forgiveness, accomplished what we were unable to do with all of our weapons of war. he was able to establish

relations with the country that turned out to be a key ally for the united states. and if we ever needed a key ally in that part of the world, right now is the time. >> and he is celebrated there now. >> yeah. >> it's tremendous. >> when he campaigned in 2000 particularly, but in 2008 as well, he was telling the story of the vietnam war from a different angle. this is obviously a war that at the time split america. there were protests. it did not -- we talk about the greatest generation. that's the world war ii generation. vietnam has had a bumpy history. and when you saw people at mccain rallies in 2000 in particular, he would tell the stories of service and sacrifice that he witnessed with his own eyes, and people, tears would come to their eyes and they would leap from their seats to applaud when he was done telling these stories. it was infusing in the vietnam war all of the best traditions of american service and sacrifice, which had not always been the case with that war.

so, his personal story and his campaigns also changed the way people thought about the vietnam war. >> that you could disagree with the war but not dishonor those who had served in it. >> exactly right. >> that's a huge transition. >> exactly right. and that you were keeping faith with a certain set of enduring american goals, even in the service of a war that people might have that debate about. one of the things that was said about john mccain, and i can't remember exactly who said it, is he could have lived in any time in american history, which is to say, he would have fit right in with teddy roosevelt's america. he would have fit right in with the revolution. because of his dedication to those kind of basic american principles. >> i want to bring in now to the conversation cbs news chief congressional correspondent nancy cordes, as we move from the vietnam war memorial to the national cathedral, which is where we find nancy this morning. that is, of course, where the motorcade will be headed next to begin the service. nancy? >> reporter: margaret, we've

already begun to see people streaming into the national cathedral for about the past hour or so, dignitaries from across the country. we spotted secretary of state madeleine albright heading in a few moments ago. the actors warren beatty, his wife, annette bening, journalists, conservative thinkers, liberal thinkers. there are 4,000 people who have been invited to this ceremony, and it is invite only. as you pointed out earlier, margaret, everything in the program you will see today was dictated by mccain himself. and so, when you hear the famous opera singer renee fleming belting out "danny boy," that is no accident. that is exactly what john mccain himself wanted. that's the way that he wanted to be sent off. i'm here this morning with senator tom udall of new mexico, a democrat, served in the senate for the past decade with john

mccain, but you go back so much farther than that with this man. >> i really do. you know, nancy, i knew john when i was much younger, when i was a teenager, because my uncle mo talked a lot about him. he talked about the relationship they had working across party lines -- >> reporter: you're talking about mo udall, congressman from arizona, democratic candidate for president, and really revered by a young congressman mccain, then senator mccain. >> the wonderful story is that mo has 14 years in the house, and he takes john in under his wing and travels around new mexico with him, and arizona and the entire southwest, and says this is what this southwest is about, because john was new to the whole region. and he said, native americans, we've got to work together on these issues. and from then on, that's what they did together. >> reporter: and what was it about a young republican that

led mo udall to take him under his wing? >> i think he saw the promise in john mccain and saw that he had a real core and that he really cared about bipartisan, really working with the other side and tackling the big issues. that's the thing to me that is just so different about john mccain is he had those core issues, whether it was climate change or immigration or on the issue of health care where he said you didn't follow the regular order, so i'm voting down the health care. he was just a special person to all of us, but especially on the democratic side where we don't have much of that anymore. that's the thing i'm going to miss the most, i think. >> reporter: i know you'll miss him on a personal level and on a political level. senator tom udall, thank you for visiting with us this morning. >> real pleasure. thank you. >> reporter: margaret? >> nancy, thank you.

we are watching there on the screen not only the split screen of the vietnam veterans memorial, those more than 58,000 names inscribed there, those who served alongside the senator on the battlefield, but on the right side, those who served alongside him in congress. you are seeing a number of sitting senators gathered from both parties along with some celebrities. i mean, the guest list here, bob, as you were saying, reads like that of a head of state. governors, presidents, foreign ministers, prime ministers, and of course, john, we also see prisoners of war who served with him. >> yeah, that's absolutely right, and they'll be his pallbearers also on sunday, those prisoners of war who served with him. and i talked to one of them, john fer this week, who was in the air force, was in captivity for almost six years as well. and he talked about seeing mccain -- every time he saw him on tv, you know, he would stop

and just watch him, and he said he never forgot us, all of the people that had been with him. and they're paying honor to him today. >> you know, among that group, edward alvarez, who was the first prisoner of war, everett alvarez. he was the longest in prison here, but what a remarkable group. >> you're watching now widow cindy mccain walk with a number of trump administration officials surrounding her there. you see secretary of defense jim mattis by her side and another marine, the chief of staff to president trump, general john kelly, walking beside her. kelly was also a friend, as was jim mattis. >> yes. >> of senator mccain. surrounded there as well by all of his children trailing behind.

and the history of service, the ties to the military there, they are paying honor at the vietnam war memorial to all those who have fallen. and you know, senator mccain was often credited with visiting the battlefields up until the very end. he would show up in afghanistan. i remember it was breaking news, he'd crossed into the battlefield in syria, of all places, i think one of the very first u.s. officials to even consider doing that. his age did not give him any kind of pause there. >> well, you know, i remember asking him once on "face the nation" when he was in kiev or someplace, and i said, you know, aren't you putting your life in danger? and he just started laughing. he said, bob, i'll die in bed. i'm going to d