matter in his second term and his cabinet stayed put. that is a source of enormous strength because it kept the government running in a coherent way f. president trump faces several of his key cabinet members leaving he could have >> dickerson: welcome back to "face the nation" it's time for some political analysis. susan page is the washington trouble delivering on just bureau chief for "usa today." regular government services all around him. jeffrey goldberg is editor in >> dickerson: ramesh, ask you chief of "the atlantic." about something else that happened this week, the ramesh ponnuru at the "national president while florence is bearing down on the east coast review" and columnist for tweeted about hurricane maria in blockberg view. puerto rico which is about a and jamelle bouie is slate chief year ago from now. and said that the 3,000 deaths political correspondent and that have been -- lot of numbers political analyst here at cbs but they have been 3,000 is news, great to be back with all about the mid range of the of you. susan let's start with thely numbers, said this they didn't happen. deal from paul manafort the what did you make of that tweet president's former campaign and then the fall out from it? manager. excuse me, campaign chairman. >> the president treated it as suspicious that the estimates of what does it mean? >> it means that robert mueller the number of deaths directly does not tweet. and indirectly from the it means that robert mueller i hurricane have been rising. indiets and convicts and that is that's not suspicious not even a powerful statement indeed to surprising. and it's certainly not have the president's personal exculpatory of the administration's record or the lawyer, the president's former

national security advisor now federal and local response to his campaign chairman it is the hurricane. really quite a remarkable thing. you'd expect over time especially when there's i think it does signal that we are approaching some kind of significant power outages las lasting for several months for decision point when it comes to that death toll to rise. either the president doesn't the most fundamental question of understand this point or thinks all about collusion and the president's role. >> dickerson: jamelle, what that supporters won't understand could paul manafort give? this point but either way it is not a great sign about the it look like from the way this is done he's already handed over ability of the administration to something as part of the deal that he structured. respond to natural disasters. >> he could help shine light on >> dickerson: we also have i was things like the change in the looking at hurricane katrina republican party platform and ukraine. numbers were solidified and he can help shed light on there's still debate. gentleman nell, police sort of particular claims within the the fundamental point here is that we're talking about human steel dossier and things that have not yet been confirmed or lives. these are not just numbers they add more insight into things are very important for assessing that happened, confirmed. what happened and huh to prepare to face it again. he provides i think potential one of the major criticisms substantial amount of evidence or substantial amount of against him he was treating the confirmation for the ongoing death of people as a kind of investigation, i have to imagine numbers game in terms of how his administration has done. that the president is very >> i think it's very easy to go concerned about this given his tweeting about the mueller numb when reading the president's tweets, there's so many, said so many outrageous investigation. >> my guess is that there are

things we don't know we don't things over the past couple of know. years, easy to say, here's just in other words, the deal with another one. i think this is genuinely manafort is so good for remarkable in that indifference of the fact that people died. dropd. potentially thousands of people in their notion aches i think died, some -- americans died. manafort obviously it's full k potentially preventable deaths kimono as they say, manafortar n and for the president of the united states, who sworn oath to the constitution to the american unload everything that he knows people to say that they didn't obviously. and as you point out he already happen and to suggest that the numbers themselves are some sort has in the sense they wouldn't make this deal without knowing of opposition plot to discredit what they're going to get. him, i think it's a serious and so there are -- might be offense. subjects that will surprise us. even if it's just a tweet it represents a profound violation manafort is the closest person of what the president is supposed to do and what he's supposed to be here for. in. in mueller's universe right nowd as you do perusing federalist this campaign for pretty long papers a couple of days ago -- period of time despite what donald trump says about manafo >> dickerson: people are doing that more and more. manafort's marginal role. >> in 65 hamilton lays out sort >> it reduces the plausibility of why -- what impeachment is of the president's constant attacks on the mueller and why they're giving it to the investigation as a witch hunt. senate as duty. it is finding real witches, he notes, impeach system a creates the possibility thatgoge political process not just for crime crimes but for things like information or mueller will get

go against the oath of the more information about russian office that go against integrity interference in our election. whether or not connected t of ts of the office. and i'm not going to suggest that trump ought to be impeached for the tweet, but i think we problem. should think broadly about the ways in which he has violated the integrity of the office i and because we often talk about what does this mean, but the think that tweet, that sentiment is a profound violation of the mere fact that the former office of the president. campaign chairman has pled >> federalist ten, there's an guilty to multiple counts of crews is in itself a massive interesting new phenomenon, the story and if we didn't have this word numb i think is the crucial other controversy constantly word here. swirling around this president we do go numb to this. this is hurricane denialism. all stop and think that's really big deal. this is a new phenomenon in if that happened to obama or conspiracy mongering, from the george w. bush, we'd be talking about that pretty substantially administration that we're somewhat used to now, sort of for a long time. >> obama wore a tan suit once it the floating of strange was a controversy by contrast. conspiracy theories. >> dickerson: let me follow up, i think it's remarkably you heard lindsey graham, he was different from other tweets. a prosecutor also been impeac but i would say just to add to what ramesh said that there's a impeachment manager something started with land deal he knows how prosecutions can move. good chance or reasonable chance that the president doesn't he brought up a couple of times understand how these death tolls investigations into the fbi. are calculated. he thinks you don't die in the certainly we've heard from the president as well saying with storm three or four days of a each new movement for mueller, hurricane that means that

yes, but we should be looking at anything that happens after is these other things. imand we know that that is not assess that as both policy true there might be just a argument but also politically cognitive issue here or an issue does that work? >> well, look, almost anything of analysis that he doesn't that comes out of the quite understand. >> dickerson: and preparing to administration works with a hard prevent the deaths in florence core of supporters of the that are the key to the number administration. which is a minority of the getting to 3,000 in maria. public, but a majority of susan let's talk about brett republican voters. kavanaugh. it keeps his base. president's nominee to the it doesn't help him win the supreme court. argument with the public at what do we make of these large. and more people according to allegations which are wisps from most of the polling that i've seen trust mueller, believe in high school, hard to figure out, the process then believe in the what do you make of that? attacks on it. >> dickerson: susan, we got >> so much we don't know about election coming up, as you quite these accusations and where they're going to lead at the pointed out mueller moment and we don't know if they investigation happens almost as will necessarily lead anywhere. if were another time before arce tmas b me how diffe when electricity in terms much its patient, quiet and -- what happens if this comes out in a considered. then you had woman of real sta month? with the election coming up or standing testifying under oath how do you sort through that? before a committee that by the >> one of the major things when way, was all male, her you look at the mid term elections is that the economy is complaints about sexual haras harassment were not taken doing great. people are the most optimistic seriously, would not believed. about the economy they have been now a situation where climate in a decade since the crisis in 2008 and the president's has given if this woman came forward had a credible story

approval rating is sinking below 40%? raising questions about sexual, why is that? because trump is not getting the even in high school, it would be taken seriously today. credit he wants for the economy i'm not saying that's going to happen and we don't know that not because somebody created a she's going to come forward and good economy but overwhelmed by the news we get every day about don't know preshiesly what happened. but i do think that this is a chaos in the white house and different time. investigation by robert mueller. >> dickerson: ramesh, what do you think will happen? seems like nomination is still it is swept away the possibility that republicans could do okay on track to be confirmed. >> well, i think this raises the in the first mid term. key question which is whether they're going to have a very tough mid term. the personal behind the allegation comes forward and >> dickerson: this is our segue to talk about politics. attaches her name is it. if that -->> dkerson: enthen ite >> stipulating that presidents said, she said. >> that's absolutely right. two years in often use seats, if that doesn't happen i think this just goes forward, we have the ruling party loses seats. a judiciary committee vote on republicans should not be losing thursday which isou seats in either house right now. the economy is swimming along, we have no major international move forward. there's no reason i think that crises except self imposed or you wouldn't expect the senate republicans to have this done by self created. the end of the month. and the fact that he's under 40% >> dickerson: jamelle in last 30 seconds or less, there are lot and fact that republicans are of red state democrats in the already discussing who to blame senate who are up in states where donald trump won. what do they do about this vote? come november means that something is off the rails here and this is a process that's >> i think that elections are being blown by republican very national and voters don't

pay attention to that much. president republican party and i think that they could vote that shouldn't be blown. >> what's interesting is it's against kavanaugh it's not going not clear if the president to make much of a difference for himself recognizes the amount of their prospects. dangers the administration is in voting for kavanaugh isn't going should democrats have not just a to help them escape any attacks on the president, wouldn't have good november, but a very something to escape any attacks successful one is what the from the republican opponents, seems to me that the thing to do polling is suggesting. if democrats take the house, narrow the margin or in take is just to vote with the party and given that kavanaugh does senate not out of the realm of possibility all of a sudden the seem to be an unusually weak nominee, he's unusually u whole world of investigative unpopular for supreme court options are open. i don't think from my on nomination, there's a possibility that unified serration that the president is really quite aware of what that democraticon could throw a will mean for his administrati wrench in the process in a way administration, what that will mean for his ability to function that it would. insofar that he's even functio >> dickerson: we'll have to leave it there. thanks to all of you. functioning now. we'll be back in a moment. >> dickerson: ramesh, could -- in 2017, follow up on that could republicans say, economy is doing well, let's not mess this up in the middle of it let's not lock up the government with the investigations the kind that jamelle is talking about sore way to what gentleman smell talking about as electoral. >> i think the problem withth rs california had the worst wildfire season on record.

scientists say, our weather is becoming more extreme that in a mid term election you have to motivate people to come and we all have to be better prepared. out to vote. that's why pg&e is adopting the usually goes bad for the new and additional safety precautions to help us monitor and respond people in power. to dangerous weather. the message that things are okay hi, i'm allison bagley, is not mess that moves people. a meteorologist with pg&e's community wildfire safety program. 2014 you had a good economy, you had no international crisis, we're working now, to enhance our weather forecasting capabilities, party in power then democrats got slaughtered in both the building a network of new weather stations house and the senate. to identify when and where that's the problem, they need i extreme wildfire conditions may occur, think fundamentally for mid so we can respond faster and better. terms you need more grief as we're installing cutting edge technology as-based message than a message of be grateful for the tax cuts to provide real-time mapping and tracking of weather patterns. and the economy. too many republicans don't get and we use this information that. >> i think that's right. in partnership with first responders i think also you look at the and california's emergency response systems. polling and voters say they accountability they want to learn more about congress to act as check on the the community wildfire safety program worst impulse of the white hou and how you can help keep your home and community safe, house. there's way in which the republican congress by not being visit pge.com/wildfiresafety more aggressive has created the situation where voters may be very satisfied but they're saying to themselves, listen, we want some accountability. ano take the

reigns here and look like only option are democrats. >> dickerson: susan, the senate, there's been a lot of talk how the senate may now control by republicans of the senate may be in play. is that right, because we started this whole narrative with, my gosh, lot of democrats running in states that donald trump run handily what is your assessment? >> i think it's pretty much a long shot. every single thing has to be democrats' direction for them to take control of the senate. but i don't think they need control of the senate to overwhelm and undo and upset the order that president trump has gotten accustomed to. if democrats were in the house >> dickerson: major garrett our and looks like that is a likely chief white house correspondent is author of new book "mr. tru possibility, they will not just consider impeachment he's going "mr. trump's wild ride. to get investigated in his he joins me now. welcome, major. administration for a dozen other what i think you're trying to do things that the republicans have is trying to cover an refused to take control of. administration with all the plates spinning in the air and it's going to be difnt detail here what that is like world. just day-to-day. if they also took the senate, but also trying to say wait a think about confirmation battl minute, there are transformati battles, that would follow for transformations here that are enormous and different let's step back. >> does the world need another that the president wants to donald trump book. nominate. >> dickerson: get to the cabinet it's a legitimate question.

we'll do that after the maybe yes, maybe no, what did i commercial try to do. been reporting about the the emotional reaction, the secretary of defense and his national debate that constantly relationship with the president goes about donald trump what he is, what he isn't, how he's affecting our politics rages and what do you think about that idea that the relationship which hour to hour day-to-day yet had been from the auto good things happen or don't happen. relatively speaking for his relationship with other people this books is about what who have been fired or attacked happened. not about what didn't. on twitter what do you get -- not about intrigues inside the what's the sense you have about white house that derailed things the relationship between the or carried out a vendetta or got secretary of defense, james mattis and the president. >> somewhat difficult, because someone to create a scenario jim mattis is internationalist, that works around some of the he's a support are of american the president said, but what alliances. actually happened, what's going his belief system is completely to be with this country whether you love drum or hate donald different than donald trump's believe system. he's to serve the american trump five or ten years from now, it was hard to do, i people and be the adult in the believe this book does it better room.sn l a the jokes as than any book out there right now. >> dickerson: now just on that kind of what do we call it, the excitement you deal with was pointed out in the "new york day-to-day in the white house. times." he doesn't do all the things before we get to the transformation mall parts of the that trump seems to like doing.e presidency one point you make which i want to highlight a military, obviously he's a little bit is that chaos inside revered figure in the military that might keep the trump the white house if that's the

administration from moving against him too quickly. way we want to talk about it he might get fed up with the d it's not just relative to previous white houses but also dischord where constantly being relative to the goals the president would like to achieve surprised by white house announcements of policies that himself. in other words, some of this has he disagrees with and leave. gotten in the way of what he he could be the leading edge of wants to do himself. >> sometimes he changes his mind exodus of senior administration and derails something that officials post election. frustrates people and creates sense of instability like what >> dickerson: we'll hold it there. much more, stick with us, more does he really want, am i doing the president's bidding, i from the panel, we'll be right thought i was. back. how do you react to that. that's one part of it. and an ice plant. the other part is republicans but we brought power to the people- don't come into this administration, they're unde redefining what that meant from one era to the next. understaffed they don't have people with existing bureaucratic and political over 90 years later we continue to build knowledge who can assist this administration. sometimes they don't want them as one of the nation's largest investors in because they were never a trum trumper. infrastructure. we don't just help power the american dream. that's a problem. when you're not fully staffed we're part of it. and op ed in the "new york this is our era. times" highlighted this tension, this is america's energy era. who do we believe, who can we believe, whatever that continuum nextera energy answer is they don't have nearly as many people as they need. that's a problem. agent beekman was one step ahead of them.dits stole the lockbox from the wells fargo stagecoach, the president's willingness to change his mind sometimes on a dime also is a problem. and one of the casualties of and thbandits, whis customers' gold in a different box. that sometimes is what the

president himself would like to we protected your money then and we're dedicated to helping accomplish. >> dickerson: let's go back to the core argument of the book protect it today. which is tran transformational s like alerting you to certain card activity we find suspicious. if it's not your purchase, are happening, give us a sense. we'll help you resolve it. >> look at the supreme court and federal bench. president talks about that not it's a new day at wells fargo. without legitimacy. but it's a lot like our first day. brett kavanaugh so far as we know likely to be confirmed, that's two supreme court justices in two years. a dozen federal appellate court judges in his first 12 months, more than any president in the history of the country, that didn't happen by accident. i point out in the book that when donald trump first thought about the supreme court he said i want a list. no one put a list together before. that's an act of political originalism. probably stay with the republican party for a long ti tile. they laid the question of the future of the supreme court before the country and a lot of republicans adhered to donald trump for that reason principally even if all other reservations. >> dickerson: we're back with our panel. that's worth noting. susan pick up on this idea of a lot going on possibly with the

>> dickerson: those republicans that ignore the noisen is what exodus, jeffrey talked about at matters 40 years on the benches. the same time for this administration. >> very well night. >> general mattis may leave soon the donald trump court may be something we're talking about or after the mid terms. we think jeff sessions survivess donald trump federal judiciary may be talking 30 years from now. >> one of the thing you point out 'these transformations -- >> living with that for two decades for sure and underlying politics. >> dickerson: if you ignore the excitement it kind of like traditional standard republican stuff. >> in certain respects. not on trade or immigration but certainly on deregulation and there was conversation during the panel what if democrats take over. i would say something worth pointing out and listening to and reading in the deregulation chapter. early in the administration the white house, office of legal counsel sent letter saying you don't have to respond if you work in this administration, anyone who is not in the majority. charles grassley, republican from iowa, senate judiciary commission, white house said it anyway. imagine now that document might be used against this administration should democrats

take control and be in the majority because they have been empowered to be the ones you answer first and answer most readily. >> dickerson: that document originally was meant to, what, not answer -- >> diesel for minority democratic party. that is in the book. this is coming. if democrats take -- i'm not predicting it but if they do this administration, quite apart what inclinations of the democratic majority might or might not be has by it's own word and piece of paper empowered themment. >> dickerson: we have 0 seconds. can a presidency go back after donald trump even if republican or just all very trump idiosyncratic. >> what was unknowable in 016 is knowable now. the country will decide whether we want to go back. but won't decide that in vacuum. >> dickerson: it is a fascinating read. thanks for being with us. we'll be right back. and my fiance meredith, helped drive me towards making my own beer. with what's available online, we were able to learn how to make the beer,

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