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next. how many of you feel betrayed by church leadership right now? so all six. kathleen, you have three young boys. >> uh-huh.

>> do you feel as though you can raise three young boys in the catholic church? >> that's a question i'm grappling with definitely, but i would like them to be raised in the church. the church needs to change. >> do you think it is changing? >> not right now. >> when you saw the headlines come out from the grand jury report, what was your reaction? >> i was just heartbroken, devastated, just really like viscerally sick. >> are you leaving the church? >> no. >> it's interesting that this was so difficult for you to process and hit you so hard. >> uh-huh. >> but you're firm that there's no way you're leaving? >> i find the church helped me to think about what the good life meant for me and gave me a real hope, and that's very, very difficult to walk away from. >> if the catholic church makes dramatic wholesale changes, is it still the catholic church? >> i believe in the catholic church and the teachings of the catholic church, and i'm not

about to leave because we've go church. we've got to clean them up and get rid of them and the way to get rid of them is to open the door to priests getting married and women becoming priests. >> every time we seem to have given up some of our core tenets, we've just declined. >> i don't think we're talking about changing the basic tenets of the catholic church when we talk about changing some of the leadership. the leadership is flawed. >> i agree with you. >> and i think you change the leadership by opening the door -- celibacy is unnatural. priests should get married. they shouldn't have to be locked in a room by themselves. >> show of hands how many of you believe priests should be allowed to marry? three/three split. >> there has to be massive reform in the church right now. i do think if priests were allowed to marry and i think that if women were allowed to be priests, this would make a huge dent in what is going on right now. you know, this kind of abuse in

the clericalism has gone on for centuries and i think that this needs to be addressed. >> because of the rules, because fundamentally of the way the church is set up? >> absolutely. it's the current culture of the church. so priests are the be all, end um. pope be all end all. bishops, cardinals. we don't question their authority. >> part of this has typically been the church, i think in some cases, feels like it could handle these issues better than police or prosecutors or someone else, right? >> they have been told that they can feel that power, that they have that power. and someone needs to tell them that they don't, that the power is among us. >> i've had other catholic mothers say that they wish they had been more outspoken. if the change is going to happen, it's going to be with us. >> much more of this interview on cbs news.com. coming up here next, why someone called police on an african-american woman as she campaigned for votes. i can't believe it.

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in wisconsin the police questioned an african-american woman as she was stumping for votes because someone thought she looked suspicious. jericka duncan has this story. >> reporter: 47-year-old sheila stubs was campaigning last month to be her county's first black state assembly woman. but then police showed up. >> i felt humiliated. i felt outrage. i felt angry. i felt embarrassed. >> reporter: madison, wisconsin police say they got a 911 call about a suspicious vehicle. the police report says the male caller, quote, thinks they are waiting for drugs at the local drug house. the female officer went on to question stubs. >> she says, how do you know what doors to knock on? i said, the walk list. she said, can i see it? i said, sure, here you go. then she said, i'm really sorry. >> reporter: stubs's 8-year-old

daughter and 71-year-old mother were inside the vehicle. she's the second black woman to be questioned by police while campaigning in recent months. >> hi, i just wanted to inform you that we have a lady that's been walking up from mather, and like for no apparent reason is walking from house to house. >> reporter: back in july a deputy confronted an oregon state senator janelle bynum who was campaigning for reelection. i asked to meet my constituent who thought i was suspicious. the officer called her. we talked. and she did apologize. as for sheila stubs, she never spoke to the anonymous male who called the police on her. but if they're listening -- >> i want them to see that i made it. i survived. i am now your representative. >> reporter: well, stubs won nearly 50% of the primary vote in her county. and since she's unopposed, jeff, she will take her seat at the state assembly this january. >> interesting sound bite.

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we end tonight with a remarkable football player. he has proven nothing to stop him, not even the biggest challenge of his life. here's tony dokoupil. >> reporter: it's not every day that the crowd goes wild for a late touchdown in a blow-out football game.

but adonis watt in phoenix, arizona is 6'2", 140 pounds and blind. >> my greatest point is winning. >> reporter: he had rare glaucoma which took his sight but not his passion for the game. >> it's enjoyable to stand up and run someone over. >> reporter: what can you r if anything can you see? >> i see pretty much nothing. you just have to trust your abilities, trust your alignment and just trust the play that it will work. >> i believed in him. this is news to you, but this is what, what he does. >> reporter: when watt was a kid, his mom veronica hoped he might try something a little safer. >> i said, they're going to hit you on your blind side. he said, mom, all my sides are blind. >> reporter: his coach was also concerned. >> i was fearful. this is a game people are afraid to play with their sight. >> reporter: which is why you may have noticed the defense give up a little in that first

touchdown run. but then two weeks later, something remarkable happened. that's watt in the end zone scoring the first of two touchdowns against a team that didn't know he was blind. and couldn't stop him. >> when he lost his eyesight, he has a whole new vision for his life. >> reporter: how far do you want to take this? >> i want to take it to the nfl. >> reporter: all the way? >> all the way. >> reporter: tony dokoupil, cbs news, new york. >> that is the "cbs overnight news" for this thursday. for some of you the news continues. for others check back later. from the broadcast center in new york city, i'm jeff glor.

>> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." >> welcome to the overnight news. i'm tony dokoupil. judge brett kavanagh's nomination to the supreme court remains on hold while his accuser decides whether or not she'll testify about her allegations. christine blasey ford claims kavanagh sexually assaulted her when they were both teenagers. but she says she won't speak publicly until the fbi conducts an investigation. kavanagh denies the charges and an investigation is unlikely. and blasey ford is being given until tomorrow to decide whether she'll talk anyway. nancy cordes reports. >> reporter: ford's lawyers tonight areg to the republican plan to move ahead with this hearing despite their objections, telling the

washington post that this is, quote, not a fair or good faith investigation. republicans insist ford is the one moving the goal post, vowing to testify and then imposing conditions. >> i really want to see her -- i really would want to see what she has to say. >> reporter: president trump urged kavanagh's accuser today to testify, but rejected her request for an investigation first. >> well, it would seem that the fbi really doesn't do that. >> reporter: democrats said the fbi does. >> excuse me. this is their job. this is their job. they vet all of our nominees. >> should the fbi investigate the allegations? >> reporter: as judge brett kavanagh prepped for the hearing today, christine blasey ford, a california psychologist, remained in hiding after accusing him of assaulting her at a high school party. alabama democrat doug jones. >> the woman who has come forward, who is receiving death threats now, has had to move out of her home and it seems like

the only thing that we hear from the republicans on the other side and the president is poor judge kavanagh. >> reporter: samantha gary is one of ford's former classmates. >> i think she's holding up admirably, but this is a very trying, frightening time for her. >> reporter: judiciary chairman chuck grassley offered ford a buffet of ways to tell her story. >> either in an open session or closed session, or a public or a private interviews. that's four different ways she can choose to come. >> reporter: but republicans oppose the one option democrats say would lead to the truth. what's wrong with allowing an fbi investigation? >> i don't have enough information to make that determination. i don't have any information. >> reporter: isn't that why you do an fbi investigation? >> that's why you do a public hearing. >> reporter: the fbi did examine anita hill's harassment claims against clarence thomas in 1991. >> these fbi reports are

sfreemsfree extremely important. >> reporter: hill said a hearing is worth little without a probe first. >> the hearing in question needs to have a frame, and investigation is the best frame for that, a neutral investigation that can pull together the facts. >> reporter: president trump renewed his attacks on attorney general jeff sessions. trump told an interviewer, quote, i don't have an attorney general. paula reid has the latest. >> reporter: as he left the white house this morning, president trump once again attacked attorney general jeff sessions. >> i'm disappointed in the attorney general for numerous reasons. >> reporter: trump has repeatedly criticized sessions for recusing himself in the russia investigation. in an interview with the hill tuesday, he escalat his attack saying, i don't have an attorney general. it's very sad. and said, he wasn't happy with sessions' work at the border. sessions has typically stayed quiet in the wake of such attacks. in august he issued a rare

statement noting his unprecedented success at effectuating the president's agenda. he has worked to deliver on the president's campaign promises, expediting deportations, limiting asylum seekers and sanctuary cities. in his interview with two conservative commentators from the hill, he took aim at federal law enforce: he described the fbi's russia investigation as a cancer and suggested that declassifying documents related to the investigation will be one of his crowning achievements. today attorney general jeff sessions spoke to a group of law enforcement officials in walk eke an, illinois. >> we believe that law enforcement is a noble profession and one that demands respect. >> reporter: sessions did not directly respond to the president's attacks, but we were given an advance copy of his remarks and we noticed when he actually delivered that speech, he took out a reference to president trump improving morale

in law enforcement. >> president trump toured south carolina and touted the federal response. >> we will never forget your loss. we will never leave your side. we're with you all the way. until all those impacted by this terrible storm, our entire american family is with you and ready to help. >> manuel bojorquez reports on the recovery efforts. >> reporter: among the hundreds getting food and water for the first time tuesday, we met crystal bowen. how is your house? >> under water. >> reporter: today she took us there. the flood waters are receding in wilmington, just not here. your bedroom still has several inches of water. >> yeah. >> reporter: were you able to get stuff out of here before this happened? >> no. >> reporter: no, nothing? >> no. all my stuff is gone. >> reporter: that's your chest in there? the power is back, but there's no running water. it's hard to breathe inside.

>> when i go out of here there's black mold growing. >> reporter: the navy veteran shares the house with her mother and 9-year-old son tyler. they have no flood insurance and spent years fixing the home after hurricane floyd flooded it in 1999. how would you describe what this has been to go through for you and your family? >> hell. there's no easy fix for this. and i know there's a lot of people that lost their homes. >> reporter: i think the people see the lights coming back on, they see wilmington slowly opening up and they think, okay, things are starting to return to normal. >> this isn't returning to normal. things are not going to return to normal. >> reporter: at least not any time soon for bowen and her family who want to rebuild here yet again. ever thought of just leaving the area if it's happened more than once? no? this is home? >> yeah, this is home. >> reporter: manuel bojorquez, cbs news, wilmington, north carolina. >> there was terror on the job in middleton, wisconsin.

a disgruntled employee came to work with a gun and started shooting. three people were wounded before the gunman was killed by police. there was another deadly shooting at a municipal building in pennsylvania. >> the community here in mason town is visibly shaken up. this is a business district where this occurred and people have been lining the streets all afternoon in shock and disbelief at what occurred in this quiet peaceful community. and at this municipal court building right behind me, it was around 2:00 today. it was business as usual at the magistrate court when a gunman opened fire, first blowing out the entrance to the courtroom, blowing out the glass doors, and then going in and shooting. there were about 60 people inside of that building. you can imagine the terror and the horror. witnesses saying they heard screaming as people were trying to get out of the way of the shoer was schedule to appear in court on domestic violence charges, of strangulation and terroristic threats and a police officer was shot in the hand. he was helped by a good

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>> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." >> marijuana isn't the only federally controlled substance being used as medicine. researchers are now turning to the active ingredient in ecstasy to help america's war heroes who return from the battle field with ptsd. that's posttraumatic stress disorder. jim axelrod has the story on this morning's eye on america. >> reporter: it's the little things that john appreciates now. >> words ending in l-y >> reporter: like a board game at the kitchen table with his family. >> do i get bonus points? >> no. >> reporter: it wasn't always this way for that former army sniper who came home in 2006 after nearly a year in iraq with a traumatic brain injury from a

mortar attack and a nasty case of ptsd. traditional therapies, antidepressants like sxoloft wee useless. >> i loaded a 9 millimeter, put it to my temple and pulled the trigger. >> reporter: fully hoping that you would kill yourself? >> the greatest peace i ever felt was that microsecond the hammer fell. >> reporter: why peace? >> i knew it was over. >> reporter: no more pain is this >> no more pain. >> reporter: that gun m malfunctioned, but he would try again, and again. his desperation led him here to this therapy room. for three sessions, 6 to 8 hours apiece under the influence of mdma, the active ingredient in ecstasy. >> i am a little stoned right now. >> reporter: finally john was able to talk about his trauma. >> i mean, i know logically

there was a bomb, all that stuff, i had nothing do with. i wasn't even there. but he was one of my guys. >> reporter: and make progress dealing with it. >> kind of feel normal again if that makes any sense. >> do you feel relaxed? >> i feel mentally relaxed, how about that? >> i spent eight years planning my own suicide every day and that's gone now. that's completely gone. >> reporter: that's because of this therapy? >> it is, absolutely. no other therapy worked. >> how is your head feeling, john? >> fine. >> reporter: rick runs maps, a nonprofit advocating for mdma assisted psychotherapy. what dmdma do? >> it starts by reducing activity in the amygdala which is the fear processing part of the brain, so that people's fearful emotions linked to trauma can be more easily recalled and processed. >> reporter: while one in three vets found pills like xoloft and

paxil effective, the study with 24 veterans showed ptsd was eliminated in 68% of vets treated, and significantly reduced in the other 32%. >> it is not just the mdama, it is not just the psychotherapy. it is the synergistic effect between the two. >> reporter: the last suicide attempt was november 23rd, 2013. 16 months later his mdma regimen therapy was completed. since then? >> good to go. >> things with way spoon. >> chocolate ice cream. >> reporter: don't talk to john if you think classification as a controlled substance renders it inappropriate for treating ptsd. when people say it's illegal, what do you say to that? >> if i told you i have a treatment that eliminates tumors in 68% of cancer patients, they'd pass a bill tomorrow legalizing it and allowing people to take it.

to begin its phase 3 fda testing. that will involve three more years and 200 to 300 more subjects. but in all goes well, mdma will be available by prescription as early as 2021. >> i feel really normal. >> reporter: jim axelrod, cbs news, charleston, south carolina. >> a surgeon turned reality tv star is free on bail this morning. dr. grant and his girlfriend are charged with sexually assaulting two women. vladimir has the story. >> reporter: he and his girlfriend are described as an attractive couple that lured women into letting down their guard. videos suggest the couple could have assaulted several other women together. >> my name is grant. i'm 33 years old. my profile is in good hands. >> reporter: in his reality tv appearance, he charmed his way

through three dates. >> i'm looking for that martener for life. >> reporter: on the now canceled bravo show online dating rituals of the american male. >> i want to know what's wrong with you because you seem like too perfect. >> reporter: prosecutors say that same charm and clean-cut appearance allowed the orthopedic surgeon to take advantage of unsuspecting victims. >> we've all heard of a wolf dressed up in sheep's clothing. a wolf can wear scrubs or a wolf can be a beautiful woman. >> reporter: last week he and his current girlfriend were arrested and charged for drugging and sexually assaulting two women in 2016. according to authorities, they met their alleged victims at bars and restaurants, then brought them back to his apartment once they were intoxicated. in one instance, they allegedly supplied multiple drugs to the victim, then raped her while she was prevented from resisting. the alleged victim went to

newport beach the next day and a forensic exam confirmed controlled substances in her system. a police raid found large quantities of illegal drugs in his apartment. >> there are thousands and thousands of videos and images on his phone. >> reporter: yesterday the orange county district attorney said there could be several unidentified victims based on some of those videos. >> the women in the videos appear to be highly intoxicated beyond the ability to consent or resist. >> reporter: prosecutors say he and the girlfriend were active travelers and visited several music festivals and large events in the last three years, including burning man and the dirty bird camp out where they may have encounter more potential victims. >> we don't know how many victims there might be out there. we don't want this to happen to any other women. >> reporter: prosecutors say there is no evidence that any of the alleged assaults took place in a medical setting or that the drugs came from a hospital. his medical license is under rye

view by the medical board of california. attorneys for he and his girlfriend say their clients have been aware of these accusations for a number of months and they unequivocally deny all allegations of nonconsensual sex. >> the cbs overnight news will be right back. ♪ discover magnum double caramel... expertly crafted with silky vanilla bean ice cream and rich belgian chocolate. ♪ take pleasure seriously. ♪

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a lot of people like to get away from it all by spending time in the mountains. were, jim crawford met one man who likes to bring at least one comfort from home when he goes into the wild. that's his stein way concert grand piano. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: it's a place of spectacular beauty. cliffs, tall trees of northern oregon. and then the unexpected. floating through the air, the elegant melody of classical music. >> my mom and i were saying, wouldn't it be cool if you could have a piano and go anywhere? >> reporter: so that's what hunter noah did, traveling across the pacific northwest introducing classical music to

new audiences in some wild places. >> i can do a show pretty much every day and be happy. >> reporter: he tows his piano all over the state on a flatbed trailer. >> it's kind of an audacious thing you're doing. do people go, what? >> yeah. >> reporter: what are you doing? >> yeah. it's really impressive to have a 9 foot stein way being hauled around with a pickup truck. >> reporter: with the help of a few friends, the flatbed becomes a stage. >> i wanted the same piano that's in carnegie hall. >> reporter: and this is the same? >> this is the same instrument. i feel it fits because these are our halls. the columbia gorge is our cathedral. and the desert is our church. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: on this night it's on a cliff, jetting into the

columbia river. does it seem different playing here? >> it does. i mean, there are more distractions -- >> reporter: wind. >> wind, of course. but, you know ie to just be able to close my eyes or between pieces take a breath in, fresh air. i think it affects how i play. >> reporter: noah performs in the landscape, spaces with astounding natural beauty and rich history. you're taking beautiful music to places where people would not have access to it. >> yeah. you know, we have the people that come from portland and eugene that are classical music lovers that get to explore these parts of the state that they otherwise might not. and then we have people that are coming to these places that are familiar to them, places they go fishing, places they go camping. it gives people sort of a different lens through which to see this land that they know and love. >> reporter: he makes the surroundings part of the performance.

this land is owned by the native american warm springs tribe. joining noah here is james edwin greely. in this reimagined concert hall, noah hopes to remove the normal barriers to classical music. there are free tickets, casual clothes, and the opposite of formal seating, like perching on a rock overlooking the stage. a third of his audience has never attended a classical music concert. but even those who have likely haven't done it like this, wearing wireless headphones to encourage wandering. >> with the music in your headphones, the music becomes a sound track to your experience in the landscape. >> reporter: noah is winning over the classical skeptics. >> i said to my friend if he had

invited me to a classical music concert, i would have said, nah. but this is tremendous. >> reporter: and the outdoor averse. >> well, she was a little bit hesitant at first, but she likes classical music so i am speechless, very speechless. it was nothing artificial here. it was all natural, natural surroundings. yes, indeed. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: it's a new community noak hopes to create each night. out on the edge of nowhere. what do you hope they get out of it? >> i hope that they find little moments of magic. it's those little moments that draw people's emotions, that give them space to feel something, and to notice the beauty around us. and even for an hour, wander wherever they want is something totally worth doing. >> reporter: and they're finding that magical moment with people

that they may think they have nothing in common with. >> absolutely.

a nationwide controversy has sprung up over two of our favorite characters from "sesame street," bert and ernie. a former writer for the show insists they're gay. now the people who run "sesame street" say bert and ernie are just best friends. and besides, they're muppets. >> do you like me, bert? >> do i like you? >> uh-huh. >> well, of course, i like you, ernie. you're my best friend. >> for nearly 50 years -- >> i'm home, bert. >> bert and ernie have been the symbol of friendship for audiences around the world. ♪ i like you ♪ >> but a former writer for the

show now says the two were more than just pals. in an interview with the lgbtq website, mark salts hannah who wrote for "sesame street" more than 13 years starting in 1984, said bert and ernie mirrored the relationship he had with his partner. i don't know what else to write them but a loving couple. that's what i had in my life, a bert and eastern ee relationship. how can it not permeate? those comments have re-ignited a debate that has lasted for years, one that came to a head in 2013. a photo on the cover of the new yorker showed the two watching the supreme court's landmark decision that declared a federal ban on same-sex marriage unconstitutional. but in a statement, sesame workshop refuted salts man's claim, bert and ernie were created to be best friends. does it matter? there is more to a person than straightness or gayness. "sesame street" has long been at

the forefront of>> dt to play w because i'm hiv positive. >> featuring a character in 2002. >> and now it helps you feel calm. >> and julia who has autism. >> they belong to everyone else. >> she writes for the washington post. she sayspeople's interpretation of these characters might go against the creator's intent. >> people are longing to see a more accurate representation in the world in which they live. it's just touching a nerve for a lot ever people who are thinking more deeply about the notion of rerepresentation and how people even talk about sexual orientation. >> now, the creators of "sesame street" insist melania trump et cetera don't have a sexual orientation. they're pup et cetera. that's the overnight news for this thursday. check back later for the morning news and "cbs this morning." from the broadcast center in new york city, i'm tony dokoupil.

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