>> dickerson: explosive allegations of sexual assault >> dickerson: explosive have put a roadblock in brett kavanaugh's path. there is breaking news overnight as it appears kavanaugh's accuser, christine blasey ford has tentatively agreed to testify before the senate judiciary committee on thursday. >> why didn't somebody call the fbi36 years ago,, i mean, you could also say when did this all happen, what's going a tndesmirch, with that being said let her have her say and let's see how it all works out. >> dickerson: but the president 's not the only one

asking those questions. we'll hear from nevada voters about how big a deal this is outside the political arena. we'll talk with south carolina republican trey gowdy and person ford first took her story to, anna eshoo. then as world leaders prepare for the annual united nations meeting in new york, we'll talk with u.n. ambassador nikki haley plus we'll have a preview of my interview with british prime minister there's sama a key disagreement could take center stage at that u.n. meeting. by your assessment iran is keep ing up its end of the bargain. >> from what we see we believe that it is doing that. >> dickerson: finally, our cbs news battleground tracker shows momentum in the race for control of the house. we'll tell you which parties got it and we'll have political analysis on all the news coming up on "face the nation".

good morning welcome to "face the nation". we begin with the u.s. ambassador to the united nations , nikki haley who is in new york this morning. good morning, madam a ambassador i want to talk with topic not on your to-do list but get your thoughts. brett kavanaugh the president's nominee has been accused by christine blasey ford who has now decided to come to speak to the senate judiciary committee. when we spoke last on this show, you spoke about accusers and that you were proud that they had come forward and they should be listened to. but you also have been politician in public life you know what it's like to get accused of something that isn't so. knowing those two things, help us sort through how this should be discussed in a public forum. >> good morning, john. first of all i think it'eryimpot accusers are heard andhattheir d th a situation where the senate really needs to lead on

this in the way that they are responsible in a way that they are conscious of hearing both stories and they do it quickly for the sake of both families. and they take the politics out of it. we see way too much politics in this. and i think at the end of the day the goal is the truth. you do that in a way that is nou do it in way with lot of respect that's what everybody, i think that's what the american public wants to see. >> dickerson: all right. now on to the business of next week. on the question of iran, i spoke with the british prime minister on friday who said the deal is working, that the u.s. has removed itself from that the u.k. and rest of the signatories are going to still do business with iran. does that mean they will face sanctions from the united states >> they have a decision to make. our decision was that hundreds of billions of dollars was going into iran and in return they were having ballistic missile testing they were selling arms to terrorist fighters.

they were basically continueing to support terrorism, what we said we're not going to give you money to do those bad things. the europeans have a decision to make. and i think that decision is already being made. if you look, they are dropping business from iran left and right. iran's economy is plummeting and it's because they can't continue to sustain this. yes, we will have decisions to make in terms of whether they get exception or not but i'll tell you right now we're going to be tough on iran, we're not giving them a pass. >> dickerson: let's be very clear, though, about decision because the u.k. is still telling its businesses to do business with iran. president trump said at the time , anyone doing business with iran will not be doing business with the united states. is that still the case and would it be the case for the u.k.? >> that is still the case. and that's a conversation for prime minister may and president trump to have. but that still very much the case. we're not going to give exemptions to iran, we're not going to give them any -- allow them any money to continue to build their nuclear weapons we're going to continue to stay

tough on this. >> dickerson: let's move on to the question of syria. the president threatened russia, sera and iran recently with respect to the province of idlib , the consequences would be dire. you also -- you also said the consequences would be dire. so they have reached de escalation plan is that then victory for the president's position? >> well, i think it's a move in the right direction. i don't think it's a victory until we see it's actually followed through with. our goal was to make sure that first of all no chemical weapons were used but that no military action was used in idlib they are talking about terrorists, about 15,000 terrorists, there's three million civilians there. and so the responsibility and caution that has to be used on any offense in idlib one that the united states takes very seriously. i think the fact that they came together they decided on a cease fire we have to see if that follows through. we'll know october 15th.

i think the world is watching. >> dickerson: you said in 2017 regime change something we think is going to happen in syria. seems that in the seven years of the civil war, assas, leader of syria has only consolidated his power. so is it time to just accept that he's going to stay in power for quite a long time? >> it's hard to imagine a syria with assas in power. i think he's going to to stay in power for now. u.s. certainly isn't in any way trying to force him out but we don't think he's going to stay. there's no way that the syrian people are going to allow it, no way that the iranians, russians are anybody think having him there is a good thing. i think it's matter of time before he's gone. >> dickerson: switch to north korea. the south korean reported would allow inspectors but only if the u.s. takes reciprocal measures, what is the u.s. willing to offer for inspectors? >> well, it depends on inspectors for what. inspectors for certain sites or inspectors for all sites? and so, i think what president trump has said we're not going

to do any half measures we have to make sure that we're thorough in this. there are multiple sites in north korea and we need to have inspectors in all mum multiple sites if that is going to happen that is a conversation about what denuclearization is. what the united states is look ing for is denuclearization with complete verification that they are actually stopping their nuclear program. and so that's a longer conversation. what i can say is we've had a win and that we're not having any more ballistic missile test ing. we're trying to focus on the nuclear development to get that to stop as well. i think the idea that the korean leaders are speaking to each other is a win because we want that region to be at peace. so this is all baby steps. but i i think it's baby steps moving in the right direction. >> dickerson: still something to be discussed after the deal was signed when secretary of state was asked about complete verification he was irritated the question was asked because he said it was implicit in the agreement but it doesn't seem to be a lockdown at all this is still very much crucial question

of verification, still very much an open question with a lot more work to be done. >> well, i think we all knew this wasn't going to happen overnight. john, no one can say this hasn't been a win so far. literally in 201 it felt like every other weekend we were seeing missile testing. the fact that that stopped, the fact that president trump and kim have had a conversation and are going to be meeting again. the fact that we now have them to where they're first major parade they weren't displaying nuke, is that was the first time in along time. these are all great steps, fact that two korean leaders met and were able to shake hands and talk about peace. that is all progress. but, yes, we do have to talk about verification. we do have to talk about what denuclearization means. those are all more conversation, is that have to take place. but i think that the goal on this is that will only happen if we continue to enforce sanction. >> dickerson: very quickly one last question. russians said the u.s. was play ing with fire with its sanction on china for doing business with russia.

playing with fire? >> no. we're being fair. china has had their way with trade with the united states for a long time. now we're just making sure that we're playing back, we're not going to take advantage. president trump has a great relationship with the president xi but not at the ex tense. >> dickerson: thanks so much for being with us. >> thanks, john. >> dickerson: we turn now to south carolina republican congress congressman tray gowdy he joins us this morning from greenville, south carolina, good morning, congressman. >> good morning, john. >> this hearing that is going to happen this week in the senate judiciary committee, you've chaired some high profile, politically charged hearings what are the risks involved? >> there's a risk to either side not perceived as being fair. i've never -- i've been in lots of sex assault cases but not since i've been in congress. you have got to be fair to witness, give the witness an opportunity to fully answer the question. you need to he is skew these

five minute increments that we use in congress. five minutes is not long enough for anyone to appropriately question either dr. ford or judge kavanaugh. i am confident judge -- senator grassley, chairman grassley will run this in a respectful way. but the american people regard less of whether you're republican or democrat expect these witnesses to be treated fairly and i'm confident they will be. >> one of the questions that christine blasey ford has said she would have liked the fbi to do neutral fact finding on this. what do you think about that? >> i'm a big fan of the fbi but they don't investigation sex assault cases. they are very, very few federal sex assault cases. my first question would be the fbi to investigate what? there's no crime scene to process, there's no forensics to evaluate. what the fbi could do is go interview dr. ford and material view judge kavanaugh. but they have already interviewed judge kavanaugh.

she still has to testify. so, the only role i can see bureau playing is identifying other witnesses that may have knowledge, some of that has already been done by dr. ford. judge kavanaugh's defense is he wasn't there you wouldn't expect him to produce witnesses but i don't know what people expect the fbi to do. they're not human polygraph they can't tell us who is telling the truth. >> dickerson: my understanding that the president in these nominations the president can ask the fbi to do it so while may not investigate sexual assault he could in terms much getting accurate record. the fbi is a neutral fact finder here. we doane know what we don't know so they without all the partisanship and charge nature of partisanship could get some of the basic facts down which would -- not just about finding information for the general record it's informing also the questions that the senators may then ask of both of them. >> the fbi has interviewed judge kavanaugh. i have no issues with the fbi

taking a second, third, eighth look if that's what it takes to find out what happened and fully air all the facts. i just want people to have realistic expectations what the fbi can do is go interview dr. ford, which is what the senators are planning on doing this week. they can interview judge kavanaugh, which is what the senators are doing. but they can't then come in and repeat back what either of those witnesses say. you can't determine credibility unless you actually hear from the witness herself and himself. >> dickerson: let me ask you about what standard one should use in trying to sort through all of these facts. that is not a court of law. what is your feeling about the standard that should be used to determine who is telling -- what the truth of this is? >> that's a great question. i have struggled with that question. my bias is toward sex assault victims, i spent 0 years, simesd u to t beyond the abou. that is ably highrd buttught tof

u're goiake away someone's freedom. it also ought to be a high burden when you are going to impact someone's reputation, make no mistakes, dr. ford and judge kavanaugh will live with consequences of this for the remainder of their lives. but as it relates to judge kavanaugh, when you have been accused of something that is a crime, it's an incredibly serious crime. it is a crime that goes to the heart of your character. i think american people expect there to be high evidentiary burden. i'm really disappointed when i hear senators say they either believe or don't believe witnesses that they have never interviewed or heard from. how can you do that, john, how can you make a credibility assessment if you have never bothered to interview either of the two principles. >> dickerson: let me move on ask you about reporting about rod rosenstein, some back and forth about "new york times" report that he suggested wearing a wire

with the president, his response or the defendant's -- defenders of his said this was just a joke what do you make of all that? >> not a very funny joke. but what i would say is the same thing you and i just got talking about. rod deserves the right to be heard. and i'm sure at some point the president will bring rod in say, rod, if you think i am in competent, if you feel the need to wear a wire when you're talking to me, then why are you serving in my administration. it may be that rod says, mr. president, none of that happened. we won't know that until we see the mccabe memos which if you really want to see them don't run for congress, go be a report er because they have seen them and we have not. look at the. >> brennan: cabe memos, find out who else was in the room then give rod a chance to explain whether or not it's true and context in which it was said but one thing that's clear. whether you're republican or democrat president you have right to deputy attorney general that doesn't think you're in

competent and doesn't feel the need to audio tape. >> the former deputy director of the fbi. what do you make of the president's comment about his attorney general that when asked in an interviewed view said to have an attorney general. what do you make of the general relationship between the president and department of justice? >> it's terrible. it's heartbreaking. and i understand the president's frustration. the frustration is that he picked all the up verse of attorneys he pecked one that had to recuse himself from that office's most significant investigation. but he did pick him. and i would prefer that they keep their differences private. there's nothing to keep the president from bring can jeff segs over and having a certain conversation about priorities or policies but the public fighting to me -- this is a different office, john. it's not department of agriculture or commerce, it's a

blindfolded woman holding a set of scales that each of us have to have confidence in and it's sad to watch quite frankly. >> dickerson: speaking of that confidence in 20 seconds here what do you think of prt declassifying this information from the fisa warrant about investigation into his own behavior? >> well, i've head every bit of that information. and 99.9% has nothing to do with him. in fact 100% may hof nothing to do with him. i generally am on the side of transparency with the caveat, i do nothing that jeopardizes national security or impacts our relationship with our allies. i think the president has taken a reasonable approach which given chris ray and dan coats chance to come in advocate why it should not be released. i've seen all of it, john. with the exception of one document i don't think anybody's mind is going to be changed hen they read this stuff. >> dickerson: trey gowdy, thank you. we'll be back in one minute with lot more "face the nation". (vo) this is not a video game.

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>> dickerson: we're back with the first elected official hear dr. ford's allegation, anna eshoo. congresswoman joins froes mountain view, california. congresswoman, good morning i want to start, you talked -- >> good morning to you, john. >> dickerson: what did she tell that you would convince her doubters? >> well, dr. ford called my district office and we met for quite a long while for about an hour and a half. and she told me her story. my impression of her was that she was intelligent, she spoke softly, it was wrenching for her , i think, to tell the story because there's a reexperience when the story is told. she went into many details.

and at t ef our conversation i told her that i believed her and that it was important that she tell me if what she wished me to do with the information if in fact she chose another path. and she did. she said she wanted me to take it to -- down a different pathway. and of course with anonymity and privacy. that's paramount in sexual abuse allegations or cases because the individuals are terrified. this is one of the highest un reported crimes in our country so she understood the risks and the consequences and it was a week ago today that she came out publicly because the story was -- part of it was out and i think that it took extraordinary

courage for her to do that because again, she understood the risks and consequences not only for herself but her family. >> dickerson: congresswoman last night heard from another person who ford said was at the party, ly land kyser, she said she has no recollection of being at the party, that means everyone else other than dr. ford have said they don't remember or deny that it happened. >> well, there are different remembrances to sexual abuse victims. there was a third party in the room, my constituent alleges that, yet that american, mark judge is not being subpoenaed by the senate mesh hear committee. i think that that -- his testimony and questioning should be part of this as well. >> dickerson: he of course says it's not true. let me ask you this question, you asked series of questions of

dr. ford when she cape town talk to you. what did you want to know? >> well, she told her story, i asked several questions. i don't want to go into the details of it because i promised her that privacy. that privacy is paramount. this is an intelligent woman. this is not a woman that is confused, mixed up, this is something that she has carried with her. just as so many victims do. i think that as a witness she will speak clearly. share her story and i think that the american people need to listen, there's been a lot of talking, we have to do listening both to judge kavanaugh and to my constituent. there's something else in this, too. >> dickerson: go ahead.

>> women share their secrets with each other. and women across the country are more than sensitive about this. so my constituent should be welcomed and given the respect that she deserves. and i hope that that will be the case. that her courage is appreciated as well. >> dickerson: we have less than 0 seconds. just very quickly often in asking questions of witness like this it can sound like you're trying to doubt that this happens to women at all in the last 15 seconds. what are your thoughts about that? >> well, this is a crime. attempted rape is a crime. and yet the doubt when women -- that's why so many do not come forward because they don't think that they will be believed. they believe that it will hurt their career or their job opportunities. >> dickerson: unfortunately we've run out of time.

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