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captioning sponsored by cbs we're in cbs news election headquarters in new york. >> you get a vote and you get a vote and you get a vote. >> dickerson: candidates are relying on star power in the final push until election day. ♪ but i know this is all rich guys' fault ♪ >> dickerson: the most visible reality star isn't on the ballot but is campaigning like he is. according to the white house, president trump will have campaigned in 53 rallies in 23 states by elen day for republican candidates. >> we need people to get off the sidelines. we need people who are with us and with this president.ndidatee president and the strong economy, but those hoping to
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attract independents are concerned president trump's campaign of fear and divisiveness will backfire. >> a blue wave would equal a crime wave, very simple. >> dickerson: it's a strategy that's prompted a former president to publicly push back. >> what we have not seen the way we're seeing right now is politicians just blatantly, repeatedly, baldly, shamelessly lying. >> dickerson: we'll have a new cbs news battleground tracker previewing where the race for the house stands and tell you what to look for on election day. plus secretary of state mike pompeo will join us to preview the administration's plan for resuming sanctions on iran. we'll hear from democratic senator mark warner about what democrats are hoping for going into the election, and republican national committee chair ronna mcdaniel will also be here. we'll have plenty of political analysis all ahead on "face the nation."
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>> dickerson: good morning and welcome to "face the nation." we'll get right to it. our big story today, what's going to happen in tuesday's mid-term election. for that we turn to cbs news elections and surveys director anthony salvanto. anthony one of the busiest men in the building right now. let's start. you've done a survey of the house races. what does it show? >> we have been tracking race by race, especially in the competitive districts. the democrats go into tuesday in position to take control, even if narrowly, so right now they would get to 225. that's just a few seats over from the 218 they would need to win. there is margin of error on that estimate, and that leaves a very plausible scenario in which republicans retain control of the house. the story on that is not just statistical, it's political. it's what happens if the
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democrats don't get the turnout that they need and they don't get enough crossover voting. >> dickerson: let's go to the two scenarios. the first scenario is the one where democratic hopes are dashed. they don't take the 23 seats away from republicans. what has happened if that is the outcome on tuesday? >> the democrats are relying on this kind of cocktail, which is a heavy amount of turnout, new voters, people who haven't shown up in mid-terms before with dash of persuasion, and that's a few, less than one in ten, people who voted for donald trump in 2016, going over and voting for a democrat for the house this year. if most of them come back to the republican party, the republicans hold the house and the democrats fall short. >> dickerson: if republicans hold the house, democrats will need a cocktail. let's go now to the outcome where democrats have a big night. what has to happen in the electorate for that to happen? >> well, they've gotten that turnout, and some of the early voting indicates that they might, and then they've gotten more independence to swing over towa remember, they're aiming at some of that crossover and persuading
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some more independents. if that happen, then they get up into the 230s, 232 in our best estimate on that big night for the democrats, but in either case, it will probably be a late night, john, before we know. >> dickerson: and finally, as if we didn't have enough complexity, there is some sense the weather might play a role on tuesday. what do you know? >> well, we talk about turnout. it means that people might have to stand out there in some tough conditions. it looks like the weather forecast across the midwest is pretty tough. it looks like there are severe storms down across even into virginia and the mid atlantic there. so we'll see. a lot of those states don't early vote. some of them need election-day turnout.h3 that could be a factor. >> dickerson: oh, wow. okay. anthony, we'll see you later in the broadcast. thank you. we turn now to virginia democratic senator mark warner. today he's getting ready to canvas for democrats in virginia, including his colleague tim kaine. good morning, senator. you're going to be knocking on doors. what is your pitch?
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>> good morning. well, my pitch is this election people need to get out and vote. if they are concerned about what's going on in washington, if they're concerned about a president that doesn't act very presidential when you see moments of crisis over the last few weeks, they need to have their votes counted, and frankly, even folks who may agree that the economy is going pretty good, i think many, many people realize we need a check on this president, and we've seen evidence of that in the last three weeks when this president was not able to bring the country together after the shootings or the bombing attempts. we saw it when the president, you know, kind of randomly said that he could override the constitution with the stroke of a pen. people know that we have rule of law in this country. and then in the last couple days where he said that he's going to take 15,000 of our military troops, take them out of iraq and afghanistan, no plan, move them to the border, and then allow those troops to fire on kids who might be throwing stones.
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that's pretty remarkable. i think this president, just one last point, john, i don't think he understands that words mattered. in the last 48 hours, in nigeria troops shot on students throwing rocks, and they turned to president trump's words as vindication. >> dickerson: well, will the me come back here at home. the jobs report on friday was even better than fourthed expected. employers add 250,000 jobs. the unemployment rate is at 3.7%. wages grew 3.1%. they haven't done that. if we focus on the james carville maxim, "it's the economy, stupid." the economy is strong, why should people want to change course, accepting all the things you said, why would they want the change course with the economy humming like this? >> because i think one thing people realize is that we're in a sense riding a sugar high from a $2 trillion tax cut that was unpaid for. now, the economy is doing pretty well right now. i grant that. i think the hangover is going to
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be pretty bad as we go into next year, but we can debate that later. what i think people are concerned about is they're concerned about this president that frankly, even if you agree that the economy is going well, that we need to have some level of check on him. the founders set up a system of checks and balances. we have a president in donald trump that is totally unchecked at this point, and rule of law and frankly america's standing in the world is being undermined. >> dickerson: i want to ask you about election security, but quickly on the intelligence committee report, your own report, do you think that's going to come out before the end of the year? >> that's my hope. we've still got a number of individuals that we have to see, many of the ones who frankly plead out with mueller, we need to see some of these principles. i want this to be done, because at the end of the day, the american public needs the know not only what happened in 2016 in terms of russian interference, but how we're better prepared to make sure it never happens again. >> dickerson: on this election security question, how secure will the elections be on
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tuesday? >> well, john, i think we've made great progress, particularly at the individual polling stations, and in the tabulation of votes. so i think people should go out and vote with confidence. i am concerned that this white house, though, has frankly held back. we've got a broadly baseed bipartisan election security bill that i think would have gotten 90 votes in the senate. it would have made sure that every polling station had a paper ballot to audit after the fact if there was ever any kind of intervention. and unfortunately the white house stopped that legislation. >> dickerson: are you expecting any kind of an attack on tuesday? what would that look like, and is the u.s. in a position to respond? >> i think we are much better. d.h.s. has been doing a very good job in terms of working with individual election registrars. the fact that we have a federal, state, and local circumstance, these are lots of different
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lines of control, but there is a good, cooperative relationship. i think it would have been better if in the aftermath of 2016 this white house after that kind of attack would have actually appointed someone in charge of election security. unfortunately, mr. trump has not done that. as a matter of fact, he even eliminated the position of cyber security at the white house, which i think is a totally wrong move, because where we're potentially vulnerable is the ability of russia or some other foreign actor to either break into some of the voter files at the national level or at the vendor level and then also what i'm more concerned about is a flood of fake accounts or fake manipulation through social media where again we've made some progress, but the companies have not moved as far as they need to move. >> dickerson: finally senator, quickly, you received a briefing this week on the murder of columnist jamal khashoggi. following that you said there was enough evidence for dong act even if the president doesn't. what kind of action are you
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expecting congress to take? >> first of all, john, i have not received that full briefing, the whole gang of eight will. i believe that is... that the evidence that the turks have pointed out, that khashoggi was brutally murdered in the saudi consulate, and frankly, john, i don't think under president reagan, under president bush or obama or clinton that any so-called ally would have taken that action. because they know america at that point stood for a free press and human rights. again, the president's words matter, and i think that you're seeing our so-called allies take pretty unusual actions. i think congress will act, whether it's cut back on arms sales, whether it's looking in terms of some of our nuclear cords. i do think there is an opportunity here, and i commend secretary pompeo and mattis for trying to urge the saudi arabians to end this brutal war in yemen. and if there is an opportunity in this moment to get that done, that would be a step forward. >> dickerson: all right, senator warner, we thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, john. a we'll be
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>> dickerson: we want to go to the state department diplomatic room in washington and secretary of state mike pompeo. mr. secretary, i want to start with the sanctions that will be reimposed this week on iran. a number of european countries do business with iran. the president had formally said anybody doing business with iran will not be doing business with the united states. so can european allies expect they will not be doing business with the united states. >> gel, john, good morning. that's right. european companies will not be permitted to do business with the united states and with iran. frankly, since may, since the president's announcement of withdrawal from the ill-fated agreement, european companies have fled iran in great numbers, hundreds of businesses have departed iran. the whole world understands that these sanctions are real, that they are important, that they
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dry the iranian people's changes in iran that they so desperately want and stop iran from having the wealth and money they need to continue to foment terror around the world. >> dickerson: but it's the companies that won't be doing business, not the countries themselves. in other words, they won't be punished, the country won't be punished, it's the company. >> that's right. they t sanctions apply to those who commit sanctionable actions. the state department has its own send of sanctions. those will come back into place on monday of this week. they will be the toughest sackions ever placed against the islamic republic of iran. >> dickerson: the president put out a poster of himself and said sanctions are coming. what was that about? >> yeah, he was putting the world on notice that the terror regime which threatens israel through iranian funding of hezbollah, that the terror regime that attempted to conduct an assassination in denmark over the past few weeks, that the terror regime that continues to fund the hewett hutsis, that
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behavior must change and sanctions from the united states will be reimposed at midnight tonight. >> dickerson: what if they restart their nuclear program in iran? >> we're confident that the iranians will not make that decision. >> dickerson: let me ask you a question about north korea. you have talks this week. north korea is saying they might restart their nuclear program if the u.s. does not start lifting sanctions. is it still the u.s. position that north korea will not see any economic sanctions lift until there is complete denuclearization? >> john, i will be in new york city at the end of this week meeting with my counterpart. i expect we'll make some real progress, including an effort to make sure that the summit between our two leaders can take place where we can make substantial steps toward denuclearization. john, you have to remneed to remember, the north koreans haven't launched a missile, haven't conducted a nuclear test. they allowed the return of mesh remains. we've had success in just a handful of months since this
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past june, and we continue to make good progress. i'm confident that we'll advance the balance again this week when i'm in new york city. >> dickerson: mr. secretary, you said that north korea will not see any economic sanctions lifted until it has demonstrated complete denuclearization. is that still your position? >> it is not only complete denuclearization,, but our capacity to verify that that has taken place is also a prerequisite to lifting economic sanctions. >> dickerson: let me ask you about the caravan at the u.s. southern border. general colin powell said, "i see no threat requiring this kind of deployment," he's referring to the deployment of troops from the pentagon. retired general martin dempsey said, "it was a waste of deployment of overstretched marines." what's your response? >> it's a problem that's gone on too long. president trump is determined to have sovereignty of our southern border. as the secretary of state, i've been very involved in working with the governments in
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guatemala, el salvador, and certainly the government of mexico. i have also had the chance to speak with the incoming government that's now 26 days e clear to them they in mexico. need to undertake every effort they can to stop this illegal migration from entering the united states. the president has made clear they will not be permitted to enter our country unlawfully. if they want to come here legally and lawfully, that's the american tradition. it's the american way. we continue to be the most generous nation in the world with respect to immigration. but illegal immigration will not be permitted. >> dickerson: the charge here, mr. secretary, is that the president is thinking about this in political terms and that's why he's done this deployment. all of this rhetoric this week. do you think he thinks about it in political term, this caravan and how it might benefit the republicans? >> i have been involved in scores of conversations about stopping illegal immigration from mexico, and never once has there been a discussion of the political impact in u.s. domestic politics. it's always been about securing the safety of the american
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people and securing our southern border. >> brennan: so if that's never happened, why then did the president in a rally say, speaking about the caravan, did they energize our base or what? >> the president has been trying diligently to get our foolish immigration laws changed since he took office. he talked about this this campaign. many of the challenges we face today with illegal immigration are because we have a set of rules, a set of laws that don't allow us to fully secure that southern border. the president is working through the proper process, the constitutional political process to make those changes to the laws and he's very hopeful i think that when congress returns in january, there will be a congress prepared to support his its to secure our southern border. that's completely appropriate. >> dickerson: you would agree that the president thinks this is a benefit for his base which has been energized by this caravan and his response to it. so it seems like he does see it as a political benefit. >> i want to talk about american national security. we're determined the secure the southern border, john. >> dickerson: okay.
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i'll take that lack of response as a yes. final question, mr. secretary, on salt saudi arabia, you're wag for more on the death of jamal khashoggi. what more needs to be answered? >> i still have lots of work do to figure out the full range of persons that need to be held accountable. we're working with the turkish government, with the saudi government, and with anyone else who has relevant facts for us to determine all of those who were responsible for this atrocious murder of jamal khashoggi, which the saudis themselves now acknowledge was premeditated. we need to get to the bottom of it and find out who was responsible and hold them accountable and do all of this, john, while protecting the enormously important strategic interest that the united states maintains with the kingdom of saudi arabia. we began our conversation about iran, the kingdom of saudi arabia has been an important partner for the united states in attempting to change the behavior of the world's largest state sponsor of terror from that islamic republic. >> dickerson: very briefly, is it still possible the crown
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prince could be involved in this? >> we're going to chase the facts wherever they go, and we'll hold accountable each of those who we find responsible. >> dickerson: mr. secretary, we're very grateful. thanks so much for being here. >> thank you, john. have a good day. >> dickerson: and we'll be back in a moment. the kenya tea development agency is an organization that is owned by tea farmers. every week we sell this tea, we get paid in multiple accounts. we were looking for a bank to provide a safe and efficient technology platform to pay our farmers. citi was the only oneat t. d today, at the touch of a button, all the farmers are able to get their money, pay school fees and improve their standard of living. with citi, we see a bright future for our farmers and their families.
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resistance and obstruction and they are not putting forward ideas or vision for this country. i think that's why voters when they go to the polls will put republicans back in the majority. >> dickerson: included in the list you just gave there was not what the president has been focused on in an ad that he released this week that had in it a mexican cop killer. what was the message of that ad? >> well, i think the point is the president's a problem solver. and we have this caravan headed toward our country. we have an immigration policy that's not working for our country, and it's time once and for all for democrats and republicans to work together to solve our immigration problem, and we need comprehensive immigration reform. the president is leading on this issue. we haven't heard anything from the democrats, and i think that ad along with the issues at the border that we're s w caravans continuing to grow, with asylum claims up 1,700% in the past eight years, we have an issue. we have to solve it. the president's a problem
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solver. he takes on issues. he doesn't kick them down the road. >> dickerson: that was not the message that members of your own party took from that ad. let me quote a few. senator jeff flake called it "sickening." the former republican chairman of florida said the president by running this ad was ady suspicionable divider. john kasich, the ohio governor, said, "all americans should reject this ad and its motives." so as republican chair russia you proud of that ad? >> i think it's disgusting what this man did, that he came into our country illegally twice, that he wasn't deported and prevented from ever coming back to this country, and he killed two police. this is one instance. it is something that should alarm every american. we do not want to see this continue. we know that the vast majority of the people coming to this country are seeking economic opportunity, but we have a system that has failed that this criminal came into our country twice and was able to kill police. and that is what's sickening and
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disgusting to me and that's what everybody should be focusing on, how do we prevent this from happening again. the president is putting forward an immigration plan, saying, let's get rid of the visa lottery, let's get rid of chain migration, let's focus on merit-based immigration, and let's strengthen our borders. where are the democrats? they've been silent on this caravan. we need a comprehensive immigration reform. >> dickerson: so i don't want to mistake what you said, so you didn't mention whether you were proud or not of the ad. you have republicans in your own party saying it's sickening seeks the characterize a whole group of people by the disgusting awful actions of one, and so i just want to... a moral point -- >> i disagree with their assessment. >> dickerson: okay. >> i disagree with tha assessment. i think the ad is highlighting the fact that one individual got through the cracks and killed cops. that should make every american upset, and we need to fix our immigration system and the president's leading the way. just like he has with deregulation and tax cuts and all the things that have gotten
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our economy humming, because that's why americans put a businessman in the white house. they wanted a problem solver. they wanted somebody who got things done at a quicker pace than the regular washington bureaucracy. and once again he's tackling a tough issue. democrats are nowhere to be found. >> dickerson: okay. madam chairwoman, that's all the time we have. be sure to join us tuesday on cbs for cbs news campaign coverage. cbsn will begin our coverage at 5:00 p.m. eastern. cbs news prime time coverage begins at 8:00 p.m. an act of kindness. an old friend. a new beginning. some welcome relief... or a cause for celebration. ♪ what's inside? ♪ [laughter] possibilities. what we deliver by delivering.
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control of the house if it works out that way. >> by narrow margin. >> dickerson: ed, what's your assessment of that? >> it seems to be heading in that direction but it is going to be close. you've said it for months, as long as democrats turn out people who don't normally vote in midterm elections, they can do it. they don't show up, they're going to come up short. >> right. same thing. although what we noticed is the closest race, anthony looks at a lot of these, they tend to break all one way at the very end, so we could see a big wave for a have for number of seats. >> dickerson: we'll talk a lot more about the wave, its size, and its color some stay with us. don't go away. we'll have a lot more "face the nation" coming rightath
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