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>> our own information, from the captioning funded by cbs and ford. we go further, so you can. >> our own information, from the everyday to the deeply personal, is being weaponized against us with military efficiency. >> when the c.e.o. of apple went to brussels and blasted other tech giants like google and facebook for ignoring their customers' privacy, tim cook was endorsing a tough new data protection law in europe, that he'd like to see brought to the united states. it's given europeans much more control over their personal information than americans have, and it's making silicon valley very nervous. >> travel as deep into the earth as man has ever traveled, two
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miles down, to get to the rock that's become this: liquid molten gold. but gold's not all, scientists have found something else down there-- something known as extreme light. which might also exist on mars. so the martians we meet in the future-- >> be prepared to be surprised, i would say. >> you may have heard something about a one-handed linebacker playing in the nfl. >> downfield, the play is made. >> you may know that shaquem griffin has a twin brother who stars on the same team. >> intercepted by shaquill griffin! >> that's one remarkable story, right? well, wait until you hear the story about the childhood pact between the twin brothers that exists to this day. >> i'm steve kroft. >> i'm lesley stahl. >> i'm scott pelley. >> i'm anderson cooper.
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>> kroft: this has not been a great year for big tech, on wall street or in washington. for decades, companies like google, facebook, and amazon have made vast sums monetizing the personal information of their users with almost no oversight or regulation. they are still making vast sums of money, but public attitudes about their size and power, and their ability, or willingness,
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to police themselves, are being called into question. a consensus is developing that something has to change, and once again, the impetus is coming from europe, which is becoming the world's leader in internet privacy and data protection. with a 31-year-old lawyer as the catalyst, the european parliament has enacted a tough new law that has silicon valley scrambling to comply, and pressuring lawmakers here to do something about protecting your data. seven times this year, big tech has been called on the carpet to answer for data breaches, fake news, political meddling on the internet, and the endless amounts of personal information being gathered on americ .> senennedy: n' comi to an end.the era o is no longhether wed feral law to prote consumers' privacy. the question is, what shape will that law take?
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>> kroft: in europe, they already have a law in place. after levying multi-billion- dollar fines against google for anti-competitive behavior, the european union enacted the world's most ambitious internet privacy law... >> good morning. >> kroft: ...even winning support from the c.e.o. of the biggest tech company in america, apple's tim cook. >> tim cook: this is surveillance. and these stockpiles of personal data serve only to enrich the companies that collect them. >> kroft: speaking in brussels, cook did not say which companies he was talking about, but apple wasn't one of them. its business model is making and selling phones and computers, not marketing personal information for advertising, like google and facebook. >> tim cook: our own information, from the everyday to the deeply personal, is being weaponized against us with military efficiency. it is time for the rest of the
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world, including my home country, to follow your lead. >> kroft: most people would agree that the point man in europe has been a spiky-haired 31-year-old viennese lawyer named max schrems, who has been inflicting misery in silicon valley for the past seven years. he not only brought international attention to the issue of data privacy, he brought big tech lawyers into court. in the information age, he says data is the most important commodity. the question is, who does it belong to? who owns your data? >> max schrems: the legislation here says it's you that your data belongs to. >> kroft: you should have control over it. >> schrems: you should have control over that. however, in an environment where there is no such law, basically, whoever factually has the power over it, which is usually the >> kft: mamarcraftg theit, in general data protection
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regulation or g.d.p.r. it became law in may, after a long battle with big tech, and every company that does business in europe, including the most powerful ones in america, must comply. it was designed specifically to ensure that consumers, not tech companies, have control over the collection and use of their own personal information. what kind of new rights does this law give european citizens that people in the united states might not have? >> schrems: the default under the european system is, you're not allowed to use someone else's data unless you have a justification. and the result of that is that you have rights, like a right that you walk up to a company and say, "delete everything you have about me." you have a right to access so you can say, "i want to have a copy of everything you have about me." and all of these little elements in the law overall are meant to give you that power over your data that, in an information society, we should probably have. >> kroft: and right now in the united states, you have none of those legal rights. >> jeffrey chester: americans have no control today about the
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information that's collected about them every second of their lives. >> kroft: jeff chester is the executive director of the center for digital democracy. he has been a major voice on digital privacy for two decades, and says the only americans guaranteed privacy on the internet are children under 13. he says there are some limitations on some specific medical and financial information, but the internet has rendered them obsolete. >> chester: there are no rules. there's not a government agency really protecting them. any-- the companies can do whatever they want, in terms of gathering our information and using it in any way they see fit. >> kroft: how did the big tech companies come to collect all this information? >> chester: no one ever told them they couldn't collect it all. there've been no limits at all ever established. >> kroft: and that's what's going on with g.d.p.r., somebody saying, "you can't"? chethxactly right. g.d.p.r. says you can't collect it without permission. >> kroft: the big tech companies have always argued that consumers have given them
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permission to take their personal data in exchange for using the product. it's buried in the fine print on those long, impenetrable online privacy agreements that you have to click on. max schrems says it's not free choice, but constitutes coercion under the new european law. on the day it was enacted, schrems' non-profit group, none of your business, took action against facebook and google for allegedly violating european privacy laws. >> schrems: it's this take-it- or-leave-it approach. you know, whenever you open an app, it says "agree, or don't use the app," and your choice is basically not existent, because either you go offline, or you have to agree. >> kroft: schrems cited the example of google's android operating system, the software which runs up to 80% of the world's smartphones. but to use one, you must first activate it and give google consent to collect your personal data on all of its products. >> schrems: you paid $1,000 right now, and you're not allowed to use your $1,000
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phone, unless you agree that all the data goes to someone else. and that is basically forced consent. >> kroft: the tech companies say, "look, you, the user, you gave us permission to take this information, to use it the way we wanted to. you agreed to it." >> schrems: and that-- >> kroft: "you signed on. you made the deal." >> schrems: the individual doesn't have the power, the time, the legal expertise to understand any of that. and then you're sitting at home, at your desk, and have the option to only say yes. this is not what any reasonable person would consider a fair deal. >> kroft: schrems has been waging this battle since 2011, when he spent a semester in california at santa clara university school of law. a lawyer from facebook told his class that bh any attentioto eur privacy laws because they were rarely enforced, and that the fines were very small. >> schrems: it was obviously the case that ignoring european privacy laws was the much cheaper option. the maximum penalty, for example, in austria, was 20,000 euros. so, just a lawyer telling you
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how to comply with the law was more expensive than breaking it. >> kroft: at the time, most people had no idea how much personal information was being collected on them. so, when the 23-year-old schrems returned to austria, he decided to ask facebook if he could see what they had collected on him. by mistake or miracle, someone at facebook sent him this stack of information, lifting the veil on the extent of the company's interest in him. >> schrems: and after a while, i got a pdf file with 1,200 pages, after using facebook for three years-- and i'm not a heavy user, or anything like that. >> kroft: facebook had created a dossier of max's life that included his location history, events he attended, all of his contact information and his private facebook messages-- even the ones he thought he had deleted. so these were personal conversations you had that you thought were between yourself and the other person? >> schrems: yeah. >> kroft: and they're all here? >> schrems: they're all here, and they're basically undeletable. >> kroft: it created a huge stir
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at the time, but it's nothing compared to what's being gathered now. today, facebook collects information on people who don't even h google's android software knows whether the user is walking, running, or riding in a car. and, amazon has patented algorithms that could be used on its echo smart speaker to listen in on continuous conversations, and even read the mood of people in the room. >> schrems: the reality is that this industry is so fast-moving right now, even if you have perfect enforcement mechanisms, usually they will get away with it, unless there is a serious penalty. >> kroft: today, if one of the big tech companies chooses to them 4% ofhee's new data revenues, which foe biggest companies would mean billions of dollars. those decisions will likely be made here in dublin, the busiest of europe's 28 data protection centers, and the place where most american tech companies
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have their european headquarters. theycko because of ireland's low corporate taxes, and its reputation for relaxed regulation. ireland's data protection commissioner, helen dixon, says it's not going to be business as usual. >> helen dixon: u.s. internet companies have no doubt that this law is serious, it has serious bite, and all of them are eager to avoid any engagement with that. >> kroft: how would you describe your relationship with these companies right now? is the relationship cooperative or contentious? >> dixon: it's all of those things in any one week. >> kroft: dixon says tech companies are spending tens of millions of dollars hiring lawyers, compliance officers and engineers to make sure they are operating within the law. the data protection authorities have only a few thousand employees in europe to police some of the most powerful companies in the world, but they have subpoena power, can conduct raids, and even shut down operations. you think the big tech
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companies, the people in silicon valley are taking this seriously? >> eoin o'dell: i think they have to >> kroft: eoin o'dell is a law professor at trinity college in dublin and a leading expert on european privacy law. he says europe has now established an international standard for internet privacy, and companies like facebook, google and amazon are not about to retreat from a $17 trillion market. >> o'dell: we have safety standards in cars, but that hasn't stopped us driving cars. we have emissions standards for the gas in the cars, but that hasn't stopped us using the gas in the cars. the data companies are, going to comply in the same way as the car companies have complied.ins. >> o'dell: to stay in business. >> kroft: since the european privacy law was passed, at least ten other countries have adopted similar rules. so has the state of california. perhaps sensing the inevitable, facebook, twitter, google, and amazon are now saying they could support a u.s. privacy law, if they were given considerable
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input. the internet association, which lobbies for big tech, and its president, michael beckerman, say they would support giving americans reasonable access to their information, and some privacy rights now enjoyed by the europeans. >> kroft: from your point of view, who owns the data that's collected? >> michael beckerman: i think individuals should have complete control over their information. you should have access to it, both how you're giving it in the online world and offline world, and full transparency on who has the information and what you're getting for it. >> kroft: but who owns it? >> beckerman: people should have control over it. i don't view it as an ownership, you know, the way you're-- the way you're asking. but i think the individual-- >> kroft: the europeans do. the europeans says it's a right. you own your information. you have a right to go to the companies and say, "i want this information." >> beckerman: we have-- under the law that we're pushing, and the rules that we're pushing, and what our companies already do, people can download the information-- their personal information, that they've shared with the sites, and delete it if they want, and cancel their accounts.
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>> kroft: privacy advocate jeff chester says the industry wants people to believe that it's cooperating and open to change, but that it won't do anything until it's forced to by law. >> chester: this is simply a bait-and-switch in terms of protecting privacy in america today. the companies have no intention of supporting a privacy law that actually would stop them from collecting our information and give americans the same rights the europeans now have. >> cbs money watch sponsored by capital one. welcome to banking reimagined. >> good evening. oil prices are slipping. they are now on a ten-day losing streak. home depot, wal-mart, and macy's report earnings this week.ca did sday as much as i'm demarco morgan morgan, cbs news. my mom's pain from moderate
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place called moab khotsong, a south african gold mine that extends nearly two miles beneath the surface. in their pursuit of gold, south africans have dug the deepest holes on earth. the country was the world's top gold producer for decades. now, the gold is running out, just as these ultra-deep mines have attracted a new breed of miner on a very different quest. we went along for the adventure. in the early morning light, tall mine shafts loom over the vaal river basin two hours southwest of johannesburg. this once was a booming gold field. now, most mines lie abandoned. but moab khotsong is bustling. long before the sun rises, thousands of miners start lining up for the triple-deck elevator called "the cage." it's jammed, but more always push on. and early one morning, so did
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we. it's really snug in here. we're packed in as tight as sardines, the electric bells signal we're ready, and the cage drops. slowly at first, then picks up speed fast. we plunge 450 stories straight down. it's the longest elevator ride on earth. this is fast, it's really fast! the cage rattles and whistles as we descend. the air gets more humid the deeper we go. our lifeline to the surface is a machine called the manwinder, massive coils of steel rope two inches thick that attach to the cage and unspool faster and faster. we dropped two miles in a couple of minutes, and emerged in an underground city. it's like grand central station at rush hour. to get to the gold, miners must
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walk miles through a vast maze of dimly lit tunnels. sometimes you're lucky and can catch a ride, but mostly you just walk. for leroy lee, it's in the blood. his father worked in the mines. now it's his turn. his family depends on his job. >> leroy lee: it's four, six people: my kids, my wife, my fianceé, my mum and my sister. ( drilling ) >> whitaker: the gold in these ultra-deep mines is found in narrow veins, laced through the rock. some are no wider than a pencil. it's cramped at the rock face, and we crouch alongside the miners as they work, hunched over in the dark. the noise from the drills is deafening. massive air conditioners cool the tunnels, but it can still reach 120 degrees down here.
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>> are you guys ready? >> whitaker: at the end of the shift, we had to rush not to miss the elevator back up. it doesn't wait for anyone. and here's where all that breaking rock pays off: the smelter. the ore is smashed and pulverized in a grinder before being fed into a furnace. monga kasongo, who runs the operation, told us we were the first tv crew to film the weekly ritual they call "the pour." we all had to wear these special pajamas with no pockets so we couldn't steal anything. the heat was intense as the furnace reached almost 2,000 degrees. the gold turned to liquid and poured down into the molds. >> monga kasongo: when i saw it the first time, i was like, "wow." that's something that keeps me going. when you hear people who have never seen gold or touched it, i
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feel like i'm more privileged. >> whitaker: these bars will be refined again to 99.99% purity before they're sold for coins and jewelry. the mine used to process about 60 tons of gold a year. now it's just a quarter of that. still, the day we watched the pour, there was a pretty good haul. wow, this is quite heavy. >> kasongo: yes, it is. >> whitaker: how much is this? >> kasongo: 11 million rand. >> whitaker: in u.s. dollars, we're talking $7.5 to $8 million u.s. dollars for what you poured today? >> kasongo: yes, definitely. >> whitaker: that sounds like a good day? >> kasongo: it's a good busiss laugto me he this harsh environment has attracted others- scientists
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hunting for what they call extreme life. >> tullis onstott: we've found water that's a billion years old. >> whitaker: a billion years old? >> onstott: a billion years old. >> whitaker: in these caves? >> onstott: right. >> whitaker: an international team led by princeton geoscientist tullis onstott and belgian biologist gaetan borgonie are pioneers in the search for life burin rock, where no one thought it could survive. borgonie says his colleagues thought he was crazy when he took a sabbatical to try to prove there was life deep underground. >> gaetan borgonie: "oh, come on," they said. "you're going to go to south africa for a year, you're going to go look for something that does not exist there?" >> whitaker: they've lost count of the number of trips to the bottom of the mines searching for life hidden in the ancient water, seeping through the rock. >> borgonie: this is a completely different world down there. there are different rules. >> whitaker: how so? >> borgonie: the temperature is different; the pressure is different. i mean, it's a tough world down there for life. >> whitaker: the next day, we
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went along with them to the deepest level of the mine. for them, it was just another day at the office. for us, it was an eye-opener. this feels like that movie "journey to the center of the earth."t our headlamps, we waded through a tunnel that had been flooded with cold water to cool it down. then we grabbed a chairlift cut through a channel of rock- except this one went down. this is like the best disney ride ever! picture five of new york's world trade centers stacked on top of each other. that's how deep in the earth we are. now we've stopped for a second. ( alarms ) i hope it's a second. we have to get off? when the chairlift stopped suddenly, we had to hike down the last 50 yards to the bottom.
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then, at the end of an abandoned tunnel, our scientists found something amazing. >> onstott: i've been looking for 20 years for a salty water deposit like this. never found it till now. >> whitaker: white patches on the wall turned out to be salt. is that edible? >> borgonie: i don't know. he's tried it. >> whitaker: this is ancient salt? >> onstott: that's the question. has to be-- has to be ancient salt. >> whitaker: very salty. salty salt. and the source? this dripping salt water. what does that tell you? >> onstott: it tells me this water is extremely old. because in these rock formations, they were formed three billion years ago. there weren't salt deposits back then. >> whitaker: they believe this water could be all that's left of an ancient ocean. and where there's water, there can be life. >> onstott: we could be looking at something which has never seen the life that has evolved on the surface of the planet. >> whitaker: all from this cave two miles down in south africa? >> onstott: all from gold mines
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in south africa, exactly. >> whitaker: in 2011, they found what no one thought possible: these tiny worms living in a pocket of water 5,000 years old. what you're seeing is magnified. these worms are no bigger than a human hair. it was a species never-before- seen. it survives without sunlight, deep in the hot underworld, so they called it "mephisto," or "the devil." >> borgonie: that's where my worms live. they eat bacteria. >> whitaker: the first worm you found was in something like that? >> borgonie: yeah. >> whitaker: using an endoscope camera, they were the first to film this deep inside the earth's crust. this is the devil worm's home. before this, no one thought animal life could exist this deep. you've made a big discovery. because for me personally, i had to fight quite a lot of people to be able to do this. on a personal level, that was the biggest victory for me.
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in the total grand scheme of things, it's just a worm. >> whitaker: it's just a worm? >> borgonie: it's just a worm. >> whitaker: they were surprised to find other living creatures too. so many, they called them a zoo. a crustacean, about 1/64th of an inch; an arthropod; a flatworm; and single-cell bacteria. it set off a storm of speculation about where else extreme life might exist... perhaps even on mars. nasa helped fund their research. >> borgonie: if there is life here in the deep, then you should definitely dig on mars, because if life was ever there, you will find some life form, i believe very strongly, still on mars. >> whitaker: so the martians we meet in the future could be these single-cell organisms you're, you're talking about. >> borgonie: i think that would be the-- that is-- yes, indeed. i think that would be the most likely. but be prepared to be surprised, i would say.
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>> whitaker: south africa's gold mines are now so deep, they might as well be on another planet. >> bernard swanepoel: i'm not sure that we really want to send human beings much deeper. >> whitaker: bernard swanepoel started his career underground, and ended it as the c.e.o. of harmony gold, which now owns moab khotsong. >> swanepoel: if you are in a successful mining team, it must be like a successful sports team. i mean, mining is one of those activities where, at the end of every shift, you know whether you won or lost. >> whitaker: gold was the lifeblood of south africa. the way it's dug out has changed little since apartheid, when underpaid black miners often worked in mortal danger. at its worst, more than 800 workers a year died in mining accidents. no coincidence, the struggle that led to apartheid's defeat started underground. gold and gold mining seem to be in the d.n.a. of south africa.
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>> swanepoel: south african gold mining especially has always been at the center of all political and other activities in our country. i mean, our bad apartheid history is intertwined with gold mining. i mean, a lot of the-- a lot of the legislation to dispossess black people of land was in order to create cheap labor for south african gold mines. >> whitaker: you grew up in a small mining town during the era of apartheid. what are your strongest memories? >> swanepoel: well, ultimately, i'm a privileged person that, because i was white and i was male, those were the two requirements at the time to become a mining engineer. >> whitaker: so are you the new face of south african mining? >> kasongo: i will say yes. we are the new generation in the mining. >> whitaker: just a dozen years after apartheid ended, engineer monga kasongo started managing the smelter.
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he told us he chose to move here from the congo to work in the mines. has that wound in south africa been healed? >> kasongo: not 100% healed. but there is some healing happening, there is some healing, yes, because you have a different, different people working in the mines, and the mindset has been changing. >> whitaker: now, safety is paramount. you'll find women underground, and blacks are senior managers. once some of the lowest-paid laborers, they are now among the highest. but this generation of gold miners know they may be the last. of the 11 gold mines that once flourished around here, only three still operate. the mines are now so deep, it's becoming too expensive to get the gold out. the story of the ultra-deep mines is nearing its final chapter.
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to dig the riches from such astounding depths took grit and brute force. now, south africa's resolve must be deployed to solving the next challenge: what to do when the gold runs out. >> cbs sports h.q. is presented by progressive insurance. i'm james brown with scores from n.f.l. today. patrick mahon set the single-season record for touchdown passes in k.c.'s win. the chargers won their sixth in a row. it's an n.f.c. sweep as all four division leaders won. indy's andrew luck throws for three or more in his sixth straight game. baker mayfield throws far career high three touchdowns. baker mayfield throws far career high three touchdowns. for more news and highlight, visit cbssportshq.com.
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shaquem griffin didn't just beat those odds-- he made history. this fall, griffin became the first one-handed player in the modern era of the n.f.l. you may have heard some of his story, but what you may not know is how shaquem griffin ended up playing on the same n.f.l. team as his twin brother, shaquill. it wasn't by chance. the brothers made a secret pact as children-- a promise no one would have blamed them for breaking. there's nothing complicated about shaquem griffin's approach to football. number 49 zeros in on his opponents with the speed and impact of a tomahawk missile. spend some time looking at his college highlights, and you can see how the absence of a leftn p an ideal tackling technique.
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he targets the ball carrier's hip and drives his shoulder in, as he whips his arms around him to make the tackle. once his sights are set, there is no escape. people can't believe how good you are with one hand. how good would you be with two hands? >> shaquem griffin: i probably wouldn't be that good. >> alfonsi: why? >> shaquem griffin: i thought about it. i was like, "if i had two hands, i don't think i'd be good as i am now." i think me having one hand made me work even harder than many other people. >> alfonsi: what do you mean by that? >> shaquem griffin: i feel like if you only put one hour in, i probably need to put in an hour and 30, or i need to put in two hours. >> alfonsi: shaquem griffin plays linebacker, and on special teams, for the seattle seahawks. his teammate in seattle, and in life, is his identical twin, shaquill. they can be hard to tell apart. shaquem is on the left of your screen. and that's shaquill on the right-- he is one of the best cornerbacks in the league.
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>> shaquem griffin: as a brother, he's very protective, and he takes his being a big brother role very seriously. >> alfonsi: but how much of a big brother is he? you're twins. >> shaquem griffin: 60 seconds. but he makes it feel like its been years since he's been born. he does good at his job, i guess, because he thinks it's a job being a big brother. >> alfonsi: do you think it's a job being a big brother? >> shaquill griffin: yes. well, if you're his big brother. it's definitely a job. >> alfonsi: we first met the twins at a family reunion in atlanta where they were sporting matching t-shirts and smiles. but back at the home they share in seattle, they bicker like only brothers can. it took all of five minutes before a friendly ping-pong match became an argument over the score. >> shaquem griffin: so what i got? >> shaquill griffin: i got 8-3. i got one more serve. >> shaquem griffin: 8-3? no, it's my serve. it's 8-4. i knew you would try to lie. give me the ball. >> shaquill griffin: you said you got five.
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>> shaquem griffin: yeah, i thought you had seven. >> alfonsi: this constant competition has been going on since they were toddlers. >> shaquill griffin: you know, i'll give you an extra point. >> shaquem griffin: so it's on me. >> shaquill griffin: i got points to spare. >> shaquem griffin: that's five. >> shaquill griffin: i was just-- you see? you see what i go through? you see what i go through? >> alfonsi: what were they like as two-year-olds? >> terry griffin: whooey. one'd go that way. one'd go that way. >> alfonsi: terry griffin is their dad. tangie is their mom. when the twins weren't pounding on each other, they were wrecking their house in st. petersburg, florida. >> terry griffin: sports was more or less something to take some of that energy. >> alfonsi: you needed to run them out. >> terry griffin: i needed to run them. i needed to run them. and they was so excited. they were like, "dad, can i-- ?" "run, boy, run. ( laughter ) run, run, run. matter of fact, you can run some. give me a call when you're finished." ( laughter ) >> alfonsi: nothing slowed shaqeum down, including the birth defect that deformed his left hand. during pregnancy, small strands of tissue constricted his
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fingers. it's called amniotic band syndrome. the undeveloped hand caused him pain, until it was amputated when he was four. did you ever think about getting him a prosthetic? >> tangie griffin: i thought about it. and then i said, "you know what? i'm-- i'm not going to do it." >> alfonsi: why? >> tangie griffin: because he started working and he didn't need it. you know, he was able to button up his shirt, and button up his pants, tie his shoes. >> alfonsi: how did you teach him-- and i guess you probably taught him-- how did you teach him to catch a ball without a hand? >> terry griffin: when you get hit in the face about five, six, seven, times... ( laughs ) you-- he used to, like-- >> alfonsi: you're going to figure it out real quick. ( crosstalk ) >> terry griffin: yeah, you'll-- you'll start catching. he wanted it. you have-- you got to want it. >> alfonsi: but, the griffins told us, not everyone wanted shaquem on the field. some opposing coaches didn't want a kid with one hand out there, and told their players to target him.and ok >> tangie griffin: you have adults, they'll just stare instead of asking. and then the kids will ask, "well, what happened to your hand?" "oh, my daddy, we went fishing,
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and a shark jumped up and bit my hand off." so every time, he would always make a joke out of it. and that's just growing up. but shaquill wasn't okay with it. shaquill didn't think it was something to be teased about. he didn't even like the fact that when shaquem would joke about it. and shaquill protects him right now. he's very protective of his brother. >> alfonsi: shaquem is now 6'1", 230-some pounds. does he need protecting? >> tangie griffin: he doesn't need protecting, but quill doesn't feel like he doesn't. >> alfonsi: still. >> tangie griffin: still. >> alfonsi: by the time they were teenagers, terry griffin was designing contraptions to allow his one-handed son to do the same demanding weight- lifting as his twin brother. this one was called "the book." >> shaquem griffin: it's literally like a block of wood, a book, and then a sock over it. >> shaquill griffin: on top of it. >> shaquem griffin: and then, like, a small block on top of the sock-- --where it kind of, kind of clips, or hooks to the bar. my brother can hold it and guide it. >> alfonsi: lifting was followed by daily backyard drills dreamt up, and directed, by their
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father. what did the neighbors think was going on at the griffin house? >> shaquem griffin: like we're getting ready for war. there was so much stuff going around. you got us in the backyard jumping over bricks. and-- >> shaquill griffin: a lot of yelling. >> shaquem griffin: a lot of yelling. and, oh my goodness-- the dog screaming. >> shaquill griffin: they knew we were training for something serious. >> shaquem griffin: yeah! >> alfonsi: the twins became high school football stars: shaquill with finesse, shaquem with the speed of a running back and a ferociousness that earned him the nickname "beast." >> terry griffin: 'quem would tackle you on top of the gatorade and give you a cup. ( laughter ) >> alfonsi: but when college scouts came calling, they only offered a football scholarship ha what those coaches didn't know is that shaquill wasn't going anywhere without shaquem. the twins had made a pact to stay together. >> alfonsi: when did this happen? how old were you? >> shaquill griffin: we probably had to be, like, eight. >> alfonsi: okay, but eight- year-olds say a lot of things and don't mean it.
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>> shaquill griffin: but we-- >> alfonsi: that-- that made perfect sense when you were eight years old. but the offers start coming in. and what did-- you wanted to go to miami. is that right? >> shaquill griffin: yeah. >> alfonsi: that was the dream? >> shaquill griffin: uh-huh. >> alfonsi: and? >> shaquill griffin: i remember doing the interview, and i was talking about, you know, "just don't offer me. if you don't offer my brother, don't offer me. because i'm not leaving him." >> alfonsi: why? why wouldn't you leave without him? >> shaquill griffin: i don't know. i think i wouldn't be the same if i went alone. >> tangie griffin: and he was offered florida state, miami-- >> terry griffin: l.s.u. >> tangie griffin: l.s.u. the top schools in the country. and shaquem was like, "look, man, go ahead. i'll be all right." and 'quill said, "no, we made a pact. we promised each other. nothing will stop us. nobody will interfere in what we want. and that's to be together." >> alfonsi: it was the university of central florida that gave the griffins what they wanted: twin scholarships. but while shaquill became a star, shaquem was stuck on the bench, and told by coaches he'd only be the shadow of his brother. how close were you to quitting? >> shaquem griffin: i was really
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close. >> shaquill griffin: you get to a point where he said, "i was leaving," and i was going to leave, too. and then i think he ended up staying because he knew how much it would affect me. i said, "if you leave, then you's just breaking everything we promised to each other." >> alfonsi: it took a coaching change to give shaquem a fresh start. he spent his last two years in college playing like a man possessed, determined to destroy doubt or anything else in his path. his stats were phenomenal: 18 sacks, 195 tackles, and this fumble recovery he scooped up for a touchdown. the one-handed player also made three interceptions. show me how you do it. >> shaquem griffin: i mean, it's no, like, science to it. catch it, got it in, and put pressure against it. because obviously when you catch a ball, you going to put
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pressure with this hand, and then with this one i got to make sure i compensate it. so i put pressure against it and make sure i grab it, squeeze, hold on tight to it. >> alfonsi: and bring it on in. >> shaquem griffin: bring it on in. >> alfonsi: despite being named the defensive player of the year in his conference, shaquem griffin was not invited to the n.f.l. combine, a showcase for players looking to go to the pros. shaquill was furious. he had graduated a year earlier, and was a star rookie on the seahawks. >> shaquill griffin: i feel like everything he accomplished, if he did it with two hands, he would have gotten invited to the combine first. he probably would have been a first-round pick. >> alfonsi: if he had two hands. >> shaquill griffin: every-- yeah, every box that you supposed to check off that you want out an athlete, he did that. >> alfonsi: shaquill was determined to honor their pact. he went to work. publicly, he demanded his brother get a chance. privately he lobbied his coaches in seattle. the n.f.l. recognized a good story when it saw one, and invited shaquem to the combine,
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where the strength, agility and speed he first developed in his backyard would face its most important test. >> shaquem griffin: once i got to that line, i thought about everything i-- that it took for me to even get there. from the doubt, to the negativity, to the coaches saying i wasn't going to be nothing. this is what going to make your name right now. >> alfonsi: he blew the doors off the place. the fastest 40-yard dash ever for a linebacker at the tryout. and the exact same time his brother ran, a year earlier. suddenly there was talk shaquem griffin would be selected by an n.f.l. team as soon as the third round of the draft. but that came... and went. >> shaquem griffin: people don't want to take a chance. and i just feel like that's what it was, it's like that in every single level i've been in, from little league to high school and college. >> alfonsi: how often do people underestimate you? >> shaquem griffin: i get underestimated every single day. >> alfonsi: by the fifth round
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of the draft, the family had retreated to a hotel. that's when the call finally came. >> tangie griffin: so he gets up and goes to the bathroom. soon as he went to the bathroom, the phone started ringing. shaquill looked down at the phone and he recognized the area code. and he jumped up. he grabbed the phone, jumped over some of my grandkids, and busted the door. he was like, "i'm using the bathroom." he said, "i don't care, i know this area code. answer this phone!" >> alfonsi: it was seattle coach pete carroll, with news that shaquem griffin would join shaquill on the seahawks. >> pete carroll: shaq, you okay? >> shaquem griffin: i can't breath right now, i'm not going to lie to you. >> carroll: he still can't breathe. >> shaquem griffin: oh my god. >> carroll: this is a great moment-- >> shaquem griffin: thank you so much. >> carroll: --and we are really excited about it, and we're expecting you to come in here and bust ass now, you know that, right? >> shaquem griffin: yes, sir. i'm going to give everything i got. >> carroll: congrats to your brother too, and your family. i know everybody's really excited about this. >> alfonsi: just watch this moment. once again, nothing could come u've de this a lonme.rothers. if anybody had said to you, "you're going to draft a guy and he's got one hand," would you
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have believed it? >> carroll: no, i would not. i would not have been able to imagine that. we studied him, as hard as you could study a guy. we found that whatever there was that might have held him back, he overcame it in some other way. >> alfonsi: shaquem griffin has played in every game. mostly on kick returns, but he is bulking up and hell-bent on earning more game time. it's a page right out of the griffin brothers playbook. when will you say "i've been successful?" >> shaquem griffin: to the point where, you know- it's not about me having one hand, it's about me being a great football player. don't matter if i am playing on special teams, don't matter if i am playing line backer, i want to be the best at what i am doing. >> alfonsi: not being known as the guy with one hand. you want to be known as the guy who- >> shaquem griffin: yeah, three, four or five-time pro-bowler, guy who, the guy who's known for just having a nose for the ball. like, that's the guy i want to be. >> the details of that boyhood past -- >> lived together, the same house, married twins.
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