department store prices every day. at ross. yes for less. b sday, march i'm margaret brennan, and this is "face the nation." a white supremacist kills 50 in nterror attack at two mosques es new zealand. does president trump see white nationalism as a rising threat around the world? in i don't really. i think it's a small group of people that have very, very irious problems. ppguess if you look at what happened in new zealand, perhaps anat's the case. h brennan: and the president issues his first veto after being rebuked by 12 republican isnators on a bill that would reject his declaration of a national emergency at the l taer. we'll talk with acting white

anuse chief of staff mick mulvaney and hear from virginia democratic senator tim kaine niout why he thinks the administration is withholding crucial information from mng stintorace, eyes are on one who just might have dropped a hint last night. rd i have the most progressive record of anybody running for the united states and anybody who would run. is brennan: we'll have foalysis on all the news, plus former u.s. attorney for the rauthern district of new york, loeet bharara, and a special ngok at capitol hill's unusual ialing intern with cbs news special correspondent james llown. that's all ahead on "face the odtion." good morning and welcome to "face the nation." happy st. patrick's day. we begin with acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney, and happy st. patrick's day to

you. >> and to you, ms. brennan. to brennan: i want to get ifght to it in the wake of this horrific terror attack in new knaland. you know, language in referring to what happened here. ckoadly speaking, the number of attacks and support for white supremacy is up according to ths cohen, was recently quoted as riying, "white supremacist and far-right extremism are among the greatest domestic security threats facing the united etates." has the president been briefed on them? >> i don't know who that rtntleman is. certainly is president is briefed on -- >> brennan: you know who the southern poverty law center. pr i do, i do. fee president is absolutely briefed on all the threats both anmestic and international. ist i want to push back against inis idea that every time something bad happens everywhere keound the world folks who don't like donald trump seem to blame it on donald trump. t brennan: i'm not blaming it

on the president. in i didn't say you. mem saying that's clearly what some folks want to do. h ntlaw he trng to do it.at t soe this is a tragic center -- >> brennan: they're just saying the number of white nationalist group have surged i? no do you disagree? that's ?oo that's not the argument by the judge or the statistics is. the president aware that this is a rising threat? >> you saw the president asked the other day, do you think it's a rising threat. he says. no i think there is information suat would back that up. the issue is how do you stop these crazy?people, whether or not there is one or four of them eyesn't make a difference if reey're willing to go on live tv hid stream the murder of people. ette think that's where the time is better spent, instead of

worrying about who is to blame, ldw do we stop from doing this. hnald trump is no more to blame ner what hneew zeandan o nertners, of which new zealand is one of them to figure out a iny to find them, expose them, and bring them to justice.ri the iflot about the need to be specific, to name a threat in wder to counter it. so why minimize it? acy not directly address white supremacy and specifically islamophobia? >> i get a lot of questions -- ld brennan: because a number of world leaders did, and the president didn't. o i get a lot of people, you need to tell the president to do x. au need to tell the president to give an oval office on this or that. that's not how the system works. the president communicates in ent way. different presidents communicate t their way. donn't think anybody can claim that donald trump hasn't done what we would want him to do in this circumstance. t proceedly reached out to ouae

e sgust at the tragic event. we're doing what presidents are supposed to do. eat doesn't mean it's going to make everybody happy because of the hyper partisan times we live in. zet again, it frustrates me as a citizen that every time something goes wrong around the world now, not just in our country, somehow the president of the united states must be tesponsible.that's just absurd t doesn't help contribute to the dial ts ney f reproblems. rguder tn anyone in the world, and arguably this president eckes the use his. so because you're frustrated, why not remove any shadow of a tubt? during the campaign, as you know, as a candidate, the president called for a ban on all muslims entering the united aiates. he said islam hates us. this kind of language in the isst leads to these questions of cty isn't the president now directly using that megaphone to condemn it? >> well, take the words and put them in one category and take the actions and put them in

another, something the president doesn't get hardly any credit e'r our any attention to is the lirk he's done in defense of woligious minorities all around the world up to and included are oppre in thef e reous miris somef es ts arleng pte sahear folks say, donald trump has said this during the campaign. look at what we've done while n''ve been here. i don't think anybody can say >> brennan: the president is 's fanti-mlim rhetoric i think it's fair question to ask you about this. gwant if move on to one of the esghts going on in congress and questions from a number of senators about exactly what programs are going the lose funding in order to put together wnding for the border walch when will the white house give mis detailed list, specifically on military projects, to congress? >> it could be a while. rere's why. avre's what's happening. , have already told congress ogis, which is that none of the programs that were scheduled to

te started or what we call obligated in 2019, so between eow and the end of september, bll be impacted at all. t brennan: they have that list, but the white house is not handing that list over. >> i know of no list, and ifbe me. aere is no list of projects that are absolutely going to not be funded so that the wall can l. it's a list of programs that fit the criteria i just laid out for au. they are meant to be funded beyond the end of this fiscal isar. usy is that important? eccause if it's going to be a soject that would have been s nded say in 2021, okay, that gives us another couple years to ngck fill. congress will pass another appropriation this year, next year, so ultimately none of the programs will be impacted. >> brennan: senator tim kaine on sits on armed services will be on the show later in the hogram, but when we spoke with him, he specifically said that he thinks the white house is withholding these details until after this upcoming vote on the veto override occurs. in other words, you're trying to

keep republicans on board, and if you fully inform them about what you're going to do to their districts, you might lose their ifes. >> if i catch tim in the green room, i'll ask him for the basis e that. does he think it because he wants it to be true, or someone told him there is a list. because i'm chief of staff. ofm still technically over at the office of management and budget. >> brennan: and you still don't know what's getting cut? >> i know of no list. >> brennan: you don't know what's getting cut? >> i know of the universe of things tcut inextreme cistance but a lista money will be cut and spent over bere, that's not been made yet. y brennan: so remove any esubt, you say no matter what tese details are, you still o,ve the votes to override this veto to, block any kind of ov override? ridee fully expect the veto >>erride the fail in the house. >> brennan: mick mulvaney, thank you very joining us. >> thanks, margaret. h brennan: just to clarify, that host is fox news's janine pirro. the network has condemned her

commentary and her past did not yr last night. we spoke yesterday with virginia democratic senator tim kaine. si had just returned from a visit to the venezuelan border and spoke to us from bogota, colombia. we asked senator kaine about kresident trump saying he did not think white nationalism was a rising threat around the world. >> margaret, it is on the rise, and the president should call it out, but sadly he is not doing iat. rr saw in the aftermath of the horrible attack in charlottesvill hie sathat the while scio-neo-eratet g re good peop.shs ines a seing shooting in pittsburgh, feu see this hate-filled manifesto of the shooter in new slaland, who is murdering muslims, we have to confront the itct that there is a rise in white supremacist, anti-immigrant, anti-muslim prestudes. the president uses language often that's very similar to the danguage used by these bigots hd racists.

theif he's not going to call it ret, then other lead verse to do more to call it out. recertainly will. >> brennan: the president did say it was a horrible thing that sppened. but he said that the white p tional impish shoe is a small group of people that have very, oery serious problems. what do you attribute the rise to? >> well, they have problems, but tthink president is using 'snguage that emboldens them. he's not creating them. t ey're out there. but as he tweeted out yesterday ers support for the family gembers in new zeanate'stion o nvergency declarat "invaders" to characterize heople coming to the nation's southern borders, which was rxactly the same phrase that the teooter in new zealand used to characterize the muslims that he was attacking. wat kind of language from the person who probably has the isudest microphone on the planet earth is hurtful and dangerous, and it tends to insight

violence. >> brennan: i want to ask you about an exchange this week that was quite tense. you were clearly frustrated with the acting secretary of defense shanahan because you were asking d noa list of military projects had not been provided to bngress that would be directly impacted by funding cuts due to reallocation for the president's borderl.'m. th i sent a letter on february 15th to the secretary of defense and said, if you're dging to ransack the pentagon's budget, tell me what projects you're going to cut or delay or eliminate. they wouldn't provide an answer. at the hearing on thursday, he're now going to vote that day on whether we support or reject lle emergency declaration, and tiey still hadn't answered our question, what projects are at stake. y the hearing he said, oh, i'll send you the list later this afternoon, and you're right, i rend of blew up at him. you're going to give us the list

sfter we vote? ais is highly relevant to the ergency declaration.dent's nsat projects are you going to ransack out of the pentagon idget? is it going to be military housing? is it going to be trying to make our bases safer from terrorism ngth construction projects? is it going to be rebuilding the her force base that got blitzed s the hurricanes last fall? and they said they would give us ine list after, but margaret to, add insult to injury, they had d walk that back. liey don't even want to give us the list now at all because we're going to have to have an terride vote. usdon't think the white house wants us to see the list before be override vote. it brennan: why do you think the white house is withholding this information you say is so relevant, because of an upcoming vote? nn i think there's one reason. ng brennan: you think they're trying to influence the outcome? >> this is not the secretary of defense in my view. this is the white house wanting to hold the list back, because hethink they're going to try to hide the list until that veto

override vote occurs in the reuse and then in the senate. >> brennan: you are, of course new york colombia nearby what is a country that is really crippled in many ways economically right now, arnezuela. there are about three million enfugees who have fled. lle energy and oil industry is collapsing,as is the economy iere. what is it that you were going hetoee? whidearn see a couple of things, one to, vepport the colombian government, because their effort ne provide assistance to the snezuelans has been momentous, but secondly to learn what the united states can do. we have worked together in an accord between the administration and congress to maovide significant amounts of thmanitarian aid, to work cogether, to pull together a coalition of nations. is brennan: nicolaaás maduro unill is in charge of this that country whether we like it or not. these sanctions have not seemingly changed his calculus.

ole visa, the diplomatic isolation, what is this actually accomplishing at this point? >> well, it's giving hope to llnezuelans that there may e nally be some change. due question isn't whether quduro likes it or not, the question is what do the onnezuelan people want, and the hetional assembly has determined ro w the election of president maduro was illegitimate. there needs to be a new government. so what more can we do? more humanitarian aid, more tirking together to pull more nations into our coalition. the sanctions are important. ncey're having an effect. eanctions are economic, but mey're also visa restrictions t maduro and his cronies as eeey try the travel abroad. ne need to give hope to the venezuelan people that we stand 'sth them and supported them. en's massive humanitarian crisis driven by one person, nicolaaás aduro, and the venezuelan people are speaking out and they want something better. >> brennan: has the president trump administration, whose now, have they underestimated how strong he is? >> i don't know that they've

okderestimated it. look, this is not easy. do's a difficult situation. trumi do generally support what the trump administration has done with one exception. i think loose talk about u.s. military action is a big bstake. ese, because that's not for the president, it's for congress, but second, the right strategy here, there's only one person neing the military against renezuelans and it's maduro. k brennan: senator kaine, thank you for joining us. tfe travels. >> thank you, margaret. nnsolutely. >> brennan: we'll be back in one minute with a lot more "face the nation." (alarmeeping

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inded this book. i think it resonates this week wa a hate crime against someone who wanted to go out and kill arabs after 9/11 and ended up killing or injuring some south hiian individuals instead. is this a continuation of islamophobia, of white ttionalism? e prhere something here, or as the president says, it's not a broader issue at all? >> thanks for asking about the nkd of the book. mothink a lot of the world is mourning the loss of innocent live, up to 50 now in new yaland. and, you know, from my old forcage point as a law enforcement officer, the chief law enforcement officer in manhattan, law enforcement has u rtain tools. you can do surveillance. you can infiltrate organizations nhat propound hate and try to nngage in terrorist attacks. you can hole people accountable onter the fact. but one of the points i make in overbook "doing justice" over and over again, laws are not enough. e w can be some things, but at

lle end of the day, if you want to quell hatred, makle olong better, havearmony g ve to haood people w are wig step up to e plat okt d th when they happepaf the book, it was a bangladeshi n migrant after 9/11 who was shot in the face by someone, r behalf of i guess his race for people who had perpetrated the acts of 9/11. randomly shooting people where they worked. trd decided in a way that was wtraordinary to forgive the emrson who tried to kill hem and art them off of death row and tpare them the death penalty. nd iasn't ultimately successful. of my mind it's an inspiring story of how some people go iryond what the law even loquires, beyond what the law allows to try to have forgiveness and harmony go werward with the world. i think we more of that and less of the nasty rhetoric and less pi people like the president not

stepping up to the plate and calling out bad things when reey're happening. >> brennan: important note there this week. newsnt to turn to some of the other news that we've seen on the political and legal front. se saw on friday, the special counsel again ask for the fifth time a delay in the sentencing of rick gates, who was a trump campaign deputy, because it was w id he's cooperating. how should people understand this? wat does this mean? >> well, not just cooperating but cooperating in "several investigations." so i'm an outsider now.dostill o tistrict of new york, but temetimes investigations intersect with the special tunsel's investigation. but i think people should view with some scepticism that the mueller investigation is coming b an end. it may be,au weisman, who is the top deputy with robert mueller, announced te was stepping down, which thtes maybe it's wrapping up,

but then you have this letter about rick gates who is cooperating in multiple investigations, and they delayed ine sentencing, which seems to bsdicate that he is ngbstantially cooperating and engaging in some success for the ouosecuting team. so you might expect other indictments, other work going forward. so it doesn't seem to me based to calibrate. at that, although i don't know, slether a few months more or isat the work of the special sleses hard to measure. onunsel is ending any time soon. rsagree with people who thought hee one caveat i have, unless ge first sentence of 47 months it's the case that the cases on nas low given the guidelines and bich rick gates are cooperating ime nature and seriousness of are being parceled out to other the crime and how long it went on. u.s. attorney's offices, akerall the addition of 3.5 years makes it overall 57.5-year obviously like the southern omstrict of new york or the d.c. l somewhere else so the special sentence. i still think its overall low, counsel team can step back and bve its work be done. bt it's hard to determine. >> brennan: steve bannon and a an brennan: preet bharara, gew other individuals have said thanks for joining us. ese biggest risk to the lhe book is "doing justice." president is not from the we'll be back in a moment. special counsel but the southern district of new york, which you know well do. you agree with that? to your goals and needs. >> i don't know if i would frame some only call when they have something to sell. it that way. but yeah. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. n e f.d.n.y., which i le and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions seven and a half years, doesn't whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees wve circumstance scrip shun in

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