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i go where it is uncomfortable. i meet people where they are. i was in fresco, iowa with a big crowd, proud to announce two new captioning sponsored by cbs legislators supporting me. down near iowa so i am running this as a grass roots campaign >> brennan: it's sunday, june 9th, i am margaret brennan and i am doing it the right way and this is "face the nation". with grit, i have always been the one that people didn't expect to win but i have won eight months until the first votes are taken in the 2020 every single race i have ever race, and the 24 democrats are run and i am going to go in there looking at our entire off and running hard, especially ticket and how we lead from the in the traditionally democratic grass roots and bring people states that went to president with us. >> brennan: what about on the issue of abortion, this is trump in 2016. >> i may be a jersey boy but my clearly emotional, it is divisive and something that does grandmother was born and raised bring people out to vote. in des moines. is there any room for a [ cheers and applause ] >> brennan: and since it is iowa it is about trade. democratic candidate who >> can you ask any iowan farmer supports abortion? >> or excuse he who does not and they are doing well and they will say no. >> we need a comprehensive support abortion?the pt doesn te strategy, not just a pattern of poking people in the eye. >> that is southbend mayor pete should be federal funding for it? >> okay. buttigieg and talking about the well, i will just state, make my president's threat to put steep position clear on this. i think what is going on in tariffs t tariffs on the mexican
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alabama and georgia and these states that basically have said doctors should go to prison, imports if they don't held immi. that women should not have a >> look millions of people are choice at all, i think that is just wrong and the vast majority flowing through mexico, that is unacceptable. >> mr. trump's threat seemed to of americans are going to be work, crisis averted at least against that and i think that for the moment. has been proven out, and we will have a closer look at that was agreed to when we speak 73 percent of americans don't want to overturn roe v. wade. with a member of the senate republican leadership, i also think you do have from life democrats in our party and missouri's roy blunt. and then we will hear from 22020 they -- that's their personal view, and that's fine. candidates, minnesota senator i think you also see them not amy klobuchar and montana wanting to put that view on governor steve bullock. other people and that's why it we will also take a look at a show of unity in a not very is my position and the strong unified world, as the u.s. and position of our party that we our allies honor the 75th believe he should be put, he anniversary of the normandy shouldn't be putting doctors in invasion. plus we will have analysis on prison for women exercising their right to choose what they all the news of the day, just want to do with their bodies. >> brennan: but on that ahead on "face the nation". specific issue of using taxpayer dollars, the federal 0 funds for abortion it is hyde amendment last week you asked joe biden >> brennan: good morning and changing his position on that welcome to "face the nation". you said it would have been a big problem for him. late friday, after days of do you think that that this was negotiations with mexican a difference in conviction or
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officials, and amid warnings just a matter of politics? from senate republicans that they could not back the >> look at the numbers here, president's threatened tariffs on $360 billion of mexican margaret. we have a number of states that imports, president trump tweeted that a deal had been reached. already, including my own, by the order of the supreme court that mexico had quote agreed to that said it is not fair that women who don't have as much take strong measures to stem the money don't have the same tide of migration through choices as women who are mexico. but it is unclear what those new wealthy. that's basically what the issue is here. measures are. and those states that have given mexican president andres manuel lopez obrador referred t to as that right to those women actually have also seen decreases in abortion. so for me the goal is this. amlo addressed crowd in tijuana we have choice in our country, but that we also make sure that insisting that president trump quote did not raise a clenched we have reduced number of an fist, but an open and frank hand borks which we have been doing. with his threatened tariffs. why? because we have contraception we begin with one of the available, because we funded planned parenthood. republican leaders expressed so for me, i agree with joe some doubts about the president's threatened tariffs that is missouri's senator roy blunt. biden's position i am glad he welcome. changed it, it has long been my to the program. what can you tell us about this position but you look at the facts here. we have reduced the number of declaration of what was agreed to with mexico? is there more to it than the abortions by funding planned parenthood and we have a press release? >> well i talked the presintighm president that i want to replace
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with who doesn't even support alwarett usetariffs, i am more n funding planned parenthood where one in five women at some point marketsinuy, ratherthan look fe in their life go for healthcare. >> brennan: since you are in those markets, but he was, i iowa do you think president trump's brinksmanship will pay think, appropriately pleased off, particularly for farmers with the agreement that lab made there? >> i don't think so. i mean, he is becoming the about ten days ago, we made an agreement with guatemala to work threatener in chief, he with them on that southern literally is treating these border of mexico, the northern farmers, he is treating these border of guatemala, hav havinge farmers like they are poker chills, basically at one of his mexicans agree to be 0 a big bankrupt casinos. part of that is a huge thing and i think it is wrong and i think i actually -- that we should have a >> brennan: weren't they already going to do that? consistent, strong trade policy >> i don't know that they were, that works for everyone in you know, no deal is done until it is done and announced i it is america. >> brennan: we will be right back. like are the chinese going to do all the things they free to if >> suddenly a month along they decided they weren't going to do that they freed to. i am not sure if that discussion it not only saves about 80% in carbon emissions... occurred before or not but i it helps reduce landfill waste. think both presidents here have tried to find a good place to that's why bp is partnering with a california company: be. the new president of mexico, fulcrum bioenergy. frankly is, has surprised me in to turn garbage into jet fuel. his willingness to reach out, because we can't let any good ideas go to waste. the rally that was talked about last night in tijuana was a at bp, we see possibilities everywhere. rally that honored both a
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to help the world keep advancing. growing mexico and a strong friendship with the united states so i thought that was a good thing they have 50 people, but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. the president told me this friday night on the phone they fisher investments tailors portfolios currently have 50 people, 5-0 on to your goals and needs. the guatemalan border. some only call when they have something to sell. i think we are going to get fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. closer to about 6,000 mexican and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions national guard down there helping with that. we have already announced i whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees think we were sending previously are structured so we do better when you do better. about 150 people to work with maybe that's why most of our clients the guatemalans. come from other money managers. obviously if you look at sort of the funnel of mexico in your fisher investments. clearly better money management. b: we go now to mind, it is easier to secure that bottom border thans the big border between us and mexico and frankly also, margaret, it can't montana governor steve bullock be a good thing for mexico to who is in denver colorado a stop on his way to campaign in iowa have hundreds of thousands or even tens of thousands of people today. we hadn't seen this new iowa kind of wandering through the poll, governor, and it says country from south to north. about two-thirds of likely i think this is a big win for caucus voters say they prefer both sides and i think the someone who can beat president president's willingness to use trump versus someone who is tariffs even though i am not a big supporter of tariffs, he is, agendas, whose agenda they actually agree with.
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and his willingness to use that given that read, they are not probably helped produce the breaking through in these polls. result. i hope we don't have to go back how do you make the case that to that as an issue again with you should be the candidate? mexico, but -- >> brennan: the president tweeted this morning tariffs >> 0 yes. remain on the table and as you margaret, thanks for having me just said this be is an first. i just got into this about three agreement in principle, i it is weeks ago, because i have a job not a signed binding document, to do, my legislature was still right? >> well, i think -- i the i thik in session. but really we need to make sure though both committed to it, if that we cannot only bring out you listened to the president of our -- and bring back places we mexico yesterday there is no reason to believe they don't lost last cycle and i am the understand the important part of this. you know, if we look at only one in the field that actually won in the trump state. this as a one-way win that the he, we took montana by 21 only country that is affected by points, i won by four so i think all of these people coming i have something meaningful to through mexico is the united offer a to this. i also, my whole time i have states, that is the wrong way to look 0 at it. >> brennan: so you want more been governor, i have led with, aid to central america? >> of course i do. >> brennan: that wasn't legislature that is about detailed in that declaration. 60 percent republican but we get >> i think more aid to central america is a good thing to try progressive things done like getting dark money out of our to help stabilize those elections. and getting healthcare for economies in ways that are good. ten percent of my population. they are our neighbors, this is our neighborhood and we should direct investments in education. be interested in our neighborhood, but the principle so look, number one of certainly point is, that the mexican is beating donald trump but we also have got to bridge some of government itself and the people the divides to make our economy of mexico will benefit from
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and government work for folks trying to get this particular outside of dc again. >> brennan: but what is movement of people illegally through their country with convincing voters is your people taking them illegally viability rather than your through their country with all platform, and at this point you kinds of cartel and other do not qualify to appear on that involvement cannot be a good thing for mexico, and we are debate stage at the end of the month. going to be working together you have just a few more days to with mexico and guatemala to get kind of rectify that. how long can you stay in this this under control at the race and can you make it on to that debate stage? easiest place to get it under control, which was the mexico >> yeah, and we have 240 days guatemala border. >> brennan: do you know what these side agreements are that before iowans first exp the president announced? >> i don't know exactly what the their preferences in theaucus side agreements are, i do if i adetweeney't count one of e understand that what i just mentioned, i also understand that there is an agreement that people who do come through the ch10d system while they are waiting inlt for 100,000 for their asylum claim to be montana thans like i just did i dealt with will be waiting in would make that choice for healthcare each and every day .. mexiatn here, and if i think we still have a long you do those two things,, you wray to go before this thing is decided. know, -- >> brennan: i mean -- you can go back to 1991, bill >> >> brennan: it is huge so the clinton didn't even get into this race until october. president's declaration there is >> brennan: but how do you get an agricultural deal noth bi kna the kind of money you need to be able to sustain the race? >> brennan: they are our .. if you can't make it on the largest trading partner,
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debate stage? >> sure. 3 billion in goods. >> it is a huge thing for my well, we are so pleased even the day i announced about three state and the whole nafta weeks ago, million dollars came agreement has been really good for particularly the middle of the country. in, cribs from all 50 states. we would be the fifth most so we he will continue to get negatively impacted state if out there. nafta went away. we will continue to both listen >> brennan: do you think that -- to folks and also travel like >> a autos and agriculture are this week i am going all the two things that probably are the biggest connection right now throughout rural iowa and you to mexico. >> brennan: what i hear you look at a third of the counties in iowa voted for obama twice saying for you on this the ends justify the means but at the same time this kind of and then trump. if we can't win back places like that, if we can't win become brinksmanship, going to the edge with tariffs can you reuse that places like wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania, we are not threat? i mean if the deal is not done you have to keep talking that going to actually win this election. i can do those sort of things. must make you very concerned. >> i think the bigger message >> brennan: you campaign here da. >> brennan: -- if the certainly was critical of how president tried to do this. the dnc made the determination >> if i was guessing that is very hypothetical, i think the regarding qualification force debate stage that you just were, biggest question here and biggest message here is now not explaining -- given at all to mexico but to china, that the controversy back in 2016, how the dnc handled things, do you president is clearly willing to use tariffs and a actually the trust they are playing fair with president believes that tariffs you? >> well, i get that, you know, are a significant positive we want to make sure that we get economic tool, lots of people in on to making sure that we have a the country agree with that, there never has been my view, candidate that can beat donald
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but it always has been the trump, but really, at this president's view so he is point, we still have a long wray consistently willing to use something that he has always to go in this and this is about said should be a part of our people talking to people and arsenal. >> brennan: i know a part of actually voters expressing their preference more than the dnc immigration can service is what to do with the migrants already rules. >> brennan: but do you trust here. you have raised a concern that that dnc will play fairly by funding is about to run out for the unaccompanied minor program. you? >> to well, i hope that the dnc within 30 days. when will congress be voting on will play fai fair to everyone n this? >> well thank you for letting me the field because that is their talk about that. i think this is truly a role is to facilitate the humanitarian crisis. voters' options not to try to i hope our friends on the other limit it, and certainly i did side of the democrats will step up and join us in providing the have frustration andt a poll tht money needed to take care of was by their standards i think unaccompanied kids. now it is important tand the are n kids viewed as, you know, one of the qualifying organizations that who have been separated from this is where we are, but where their parents. this is mo argument about we are, you know, there are some separating kids from their things i can control and some parents. these are kids who are under 18 things i can't. >> brennan: you are talking about the campaign finance who came on their own, about issues, i mean naah is the 30 percent of them are under 12 really the only policy platform on your website right now. or so, the others are teenagers what do you stand for? of various ages but they are what is your main agenda item that defines you? minors, they get here on their >> well, yeah, i was attorney own. >> brennan: and there is no -- general in citizens united >> 88,000 come this year, 88,000 decision came up and have done
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more to try to make sure that kids by themselves and everybody elections are decided by people, not corporations, than anybody when they think about this, surely understands you can't let else in this field. 12 and 13 and 14-year-old boys fundamentally we have got get the economy working for all of and girls, you can't say, okay us, not just the donald trumps of the world and we have to make we don't have anyplace to go with you and it is illegal to sure that people believe that their vote and fair voice return you back to your home country we will just let you matters. once we start doing that, we can loose in the united states and deal with, and that's the way we you show up at some future time will make meaningful progress in -- >> brennan: when will that other areas. vote. >> get your case handled. >> brennan: farm bankruptcies it should have been i think when we voted on the other emergency, doubled over the past five but hopefully it will be soon, years. so if your president, you are president how do you change that $2.8 billion will go to home -- somehow do you handle china in not to homeland security but the way differently than donald trump has? health & human services for sole >> sure. first of all we have to do purpose of taking care of these everything we can to make our farmers and ranchers viable. kids who are here by themselves and we need to deal with that. even in montana, we did like >> brennan: senator, thank you. student loan assistance to try >> thank you. to get people back to the family >> brennan: we turn now to campaign 2020, this weekend most farm, i was talking to someone in iowa two weeks ago lost of the candidates are either in iowa or headed there. $147,000 last year. and the notion the usda will pay and there is a des moines register poll out this morning. 70,000 bucks back, what this 24 percent of democrats likely farmer was saying, not only do to participate in the february 3rd iowa caucus support is it a financial hit but also
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we are going to lose market so former vice president joe biden the way that the trump as their first choice. administration has approached vermont senator bernie sanders this is just sort of the blunt comes in second with 16 percent instrument of tariffs, certainly isn't working and i think he of support. kind of turned america first massachusetts senator elizabeth warren and southbend indiana into america alone. we always made sure we have open mayor pete buttigieg are right behind him at 15 and 14 percent access to markets not by going alone but by going with other respectively. california's senator kamala partners across the world and harris comes 0 in at doing everything we can to open seven percent, minnesota's up markets. >> brennan: well, you are a senator amy klobuchar and former state senator, jon tester was texas congressman beto o'rourke recently on the program and said are both at two percent with the he hadn't yet made an rest of the field getting endorsement when i asked if he one percent or less -- would back you, have you persuaded him yet? >> we go now to one of those candidates, campaigning in iowa >> i think that jon tester i today, amy klobuchar who is in now on b a awfulexcited about hs cedar rapids, senator, margaret, good to talk to you today. we just went through those long tim now, but he also polls. are there just too many has been such a voice in both rural areas, places that we need candidates running? why do you think only a handful to win back, bridging some of are actually breaking through? divides. >> well, first of all, i am you have over a dozen bills just dealing with veterans passed happy to be in the top six and a --hough'tsdent, a
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ahead of 18 people, and we have got a long campaign ahead of us. done g the big iamb -- i have always been a vikings fan and i can't tell you money out of the system, which we have to do. how many games, margaret wrshes >> brennan: governor, thank the vikings were leading in the you very much. first quarter and go on to not we will be back in a moment. quite make it so i think you see a fluid race and yes there are a >> lot of candidates and you are going to see that narrow down ♪ because a vision softly creeping ♪ over time. i am clearly on the debate stage and expect to be there in the fall and i think that is going ♪ left its seeds while i was sleeping ♪ to give opportunity to voters in iowa and all across the country ♪ and the vision to really narrow it down. ♪ that was planted in my brain ♪ and for me being from the midwest and someone that is running on a track record of ♪ still remains getting things done, being ♪ within the sound of silence effective, passing 100 bills where i was the load democrat since i have been in the senate, i think those are things that are going to matter to people. ♪ in restless dreams i walked alone ♪ they want to see a vision that is not donald trump's, that is not chaos every morning with ♪ narrow streets of cobblestone ♪ every single tweet.le herin thie like all states around the ♪ when my eyes were stabbed country want a true leader 0 who is going to get stuff done for ♪ by the flash of a neon light ♪ them and cares about things that
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>> brennan: some of our station, leaving us now but we will be right back with the mexican ambassador to the u.s. and hear from our familiar lists. stay with us. >>
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>> welcome back to "face the nation." joining us now is the mexican ambassador to the united states,
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she was part of the mexican negotiating teamworking to prevent the trump administration from imposing tariffs on mexico. good to have you here. your president held a rally in tijuana last night but president trump tweeted this morning tariffs aren't totally off the table. is it too soon to celebrate? >> good morning, margaret. i am really thrilled to be here in "face the nation". yes, we were following the rally yesterday at tijuana with the mexico united is a stronger and we want friendship with the united states. so the idea of the rally was to inform the declaration that we agreed to. and saying, we avoided the imposition of tariffs and we want to continue to work with the u.s. very closely on the different challenges that we have together. and one urgent one at this moment is immigration. >> uh-huh.
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of principles.st a declaration this isn't a signed agreement? >> it's a joint declaration of principles. which is the base that gives us the base for the road map that we have to follow, in the incoming months in immigration and incorporation ever asylum in central america. >> in 90 days, there is a 90 daytime line. how quickly do you -- does your country think that you will see a dropoff in these migrants? >> we will deploy the national guard for monday. i want to explain that this deployment will take place now, because until two weeks ago, we were still discussing the laws to implement the national guard. so the deployment throughout the country has already begun, and it will increase next monday. so we will see how the results of the deployment of the national guard which, by the
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way, is not similar to the national guard of the u.s. it is not like the national guard of the u.s. it is a police force. based on the models of the european military police like the caribiniere, the gendarm gendarmerie. when people talk about the deployment of troops they are wrong. what we are deploying is a police force and we are deploying it to put order in the borders. so we would hope that this would bring results in a very relative short term, like in a month or a month and a half. >> well, for the past three months there have been more than 100,000 migrants crossing the u.s. border. last month alone 132,000 apprehensions, that was up 30%. did the trurgs give you hard numbers, say we need a 30% decrease before we go back to
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putting a tariff >> no. what we told was numbers have to go down, down to previous levels that we had, maybe last year or in 2018. what we are seeing is that these surge of migrants really is -- was totally unexpected both for mexico and for the u.s. if you think that only one percent of the honduran population has left the country in the last five months and guatemala then you have to realize that we are really in front of a human, humanitarian tragedy and that's why we need to address the humanitarian tragedy with the elements that were put on the declaration, and enforcement of mexican migratory laws, the expansion of the mpp, then we will continue to have technical talks almost weekly and then to avoid constantly what is going on in these
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90 days, to monitor, and to cooperate with central american countries for development and prosperity. >> brennan: it sounds like there are a lot of details that will still be worked out on how this is actually going to work. what are some of 0 these side agreements that the president is tweeting about? >> i think there are a lot of details that we discussed during the negotiations and during the conversations that we didn't put into the declaration because this is different -- different paths that we are to follow. let's say we -- even discussed at a certain time how to put more emphasis on the rural areas of central america, where 60 percent of the migrants are coming from. so -- and we have been putting more effort on security and good governance and training police, but very little into rural areas. so this is the kind of things that we will continue to work. >> brennan: very quickly, was there any kind of agreement by your government to buy agricultural snructs.
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>> it is our understanding that without tariffs and with u.s. -- usda certification there will be an increased rate, both in agriculture products and manufactured products. >> brennan: even now? that was agreed to as part of this negotiation. the president has been tweeting saying mexico agreed to buy all sorts of agricultural products. >> i would -- what i would say is that even now we are the second buyer of the u.s. >> brennan: right. >> in grains and meats and this. we have an integrity grated economy in the agricultural sector. >> brennan: of course. >> we export fruits and vegetables to the u.s., also contributing to a healthier dinette the u.s. and we buy anda trade is already there. so what we are expecting without the tariffs is an increase. you have to rememberun last year we were the third trade partner. we are now the first. >> brennan:. >> so we are your most important market and you are our most important market. trade on agricultural, is trade
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on agricultural products going to grow. >> yes, it is going to grow and it is going to grow without tariffs. >> brennan: and there use nothing sign as part of this deal is what i understand you are saying? you are just talking about trade? >> i am talking about trade and i am absolutely certain that the trade-in agriculture goods will increase dramatically in the next few months. >> brennan: all right. ambassador, thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. >> brennan: it will be interesting to see how those negotiations continue to government we will be right back with the political panel. girls are not in school because of economic issues and they have to work. at the malala fund, we help girls stay in school. the malala fund invests in education champions who work in the community and pave the way so that girls can actually go to school. to have our financial partner guiding us is very important.
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some analysis from our political panel. mark lang sclerosis a white house correspondent at the new york times and soon to be london bureau chief. karen tumulty is a columnist 0 covering national politics at the "washington post" .. david nakamura is also at the post and he covers the white house. and kelsey smell is a congressional reporter for npr. good to have you all here. mark, let's pickup we just left off where the ambassador. it sounds like there is no signed agreement. there are a lot of details that still need to be figured out here. but the president has declared victory in avoiding the tariffs he threatened to put on mexico. >> that's right. and it is a pattern we have seen repeatedly with this president. he sort of creates a crisis, has some sort of a fairly general resolution to it that is lacking any details. and then declares victory this is what he did with the north korean nuclear crisis in
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singapore. in this particular situation, there is some very important sort of unresolved business. the most important of which i think is this concept of third stay country, the united states wanted mexico to agree to this. the mexicans have not, in part because doing so would require them to get their own senate to ratify this measure, and i think is a great deal of concern in mexico that announcing something like this before it is ratified would lead to a renewed surge in migrants. so there are key parts of this that are unresolved, but you have ty, f economi omnk i think he will probably be rewarded with a very strong market opening tomorrow morning. and in some sense he is right. he has resolved for th he hasn't resolved the problem longer term. >> brennan: and, karen, we had, republican senator who had been concerned about the president's threat, praising
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this brinksmanship, does this in some way empower the president to defy his party and continue to use tariffs as his chief tool negotiating? >> well, certainly everything with this administration ends up being defined as an economic question, and it will be interesting to see if there is anything that comes along, what can, what the ambassador said that is so striking is that, you know, the country's -- the countries that are sending, honduras, guatemala have each lost one percent of their population in the last five months. it seems like any kind of long-term solution is going to have to deal with the factors in those countries that are driving and, you know, ultimately, you are not going to see the kind of ruck tion in numbers that the president is going to want and need unless you are dealing with what, in fact, is causing the migration. >> as quoted former dhs secretary the obama administration just this week talking about unless you address
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those push factors which takes years you are not going to see the numbers -- and he has personal experience. we saw the numbers at the borders from central america swell under the obama administration in 2014 and saw children being held in border patrol stations and agents trying to deal with changing diapers and feeding them and that had a huge impact politically in the united states, there was a big response, including from the mexican government, law enforcement, the numbers dip the next year but then went up even more in obama's last year and that pattern has happened again under trump we saw the lower numbers in 2017 and now they are higher than they have been in 12 years and what you saw with the president announcing this deal is he kept the threat of tariffs on the table, he said i can come back in a few months, 90 days or more, come batmexico does not re truth will be in the numbers, at the end of each month where you could see a dip but it could go back up. >> brennan: and that general agreement, the declaration we saw, kelsey, did mention support for these central american countries, but there were no specifics, you had senator blunt say i support more foreign aid but does congress actually do
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anything to back up what the president essentially promised to do? >> well, the problem with i don'thewith congress is they han they cannot get immigration bills passed and one of the questions that still remains out there is what do they do about people who are coming to the border or how do 3 handle the people who are already come something and what do they do about as a asylum seekers and the legal immigration process all of which they haven't been able to a answer in a way that actually moves the ball forward or brings them any closer to actually passing anything and that's even further complicated by the fact that, you know, immigration is now because of these tariffs, become very deeply intertwined with the conversations about frayed. and that is something that congress is deeply concerned with and there are floorly in the house a number of people who are very worried that if the -- if they don't get this usmca the trade agreement with canada and mexico through they will just lose all of their trading opportunities with these countries. so the -- the two are so deeply intertwined it is hard to see
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how they will figure it out. >> brennan: and you saw the ambassador talk about that and diplomatically say there was no deal to buy gurl products that the president said on twitter there was. >> that's right. and that is sort of, again, typical of president trump. he often will sort of go a little bit further than the details in the agreement. i think it is worth pointing out one other thing though and this is where the intertwining of trade and immigration becomes important ther there were some l warning signs last week there the latest jobs number, in some of the financial statistics, the bond yield that suggest that the economy is actually more fragile and more vulnerable to being hurt by tariffs, the impact of tariffs on the economy than perhaps we thought as recently as three or four weeks ago and i have to believe that entered into the president's calculus, he has to be thinking about all of this in the context of 2020, what he really has going for him has been the resilience of this economy, if that doesn't hold up he has another much larger problem on his hands. i think that played into his thinking. >> brennan: it is interesting, karen, when you talke talked toe
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of the 2020 candidates and you talk to him about running against the trump economy and the strength of that and point to the vulnerability of american farmers, but american farmers have they shown any sign of pulling back from supporting president trump? >> they are concerned and they are feeling the impact already of the trade wars. but in my own interviewing and what you see too in other reporting is that support does remain relatively strong for the president, and at that lot of his supporters in middle america say, okay, this is causing a little bit of short-term pain for me but, you know, i have confidence the president has a long-term strategy out there that is ultimately going to pay off. the question is whether they will still feel that way a year from now. >> brennan: and do we see any vote, by the way, on what senator blunt was saying in terms of these unaccompanied children running out of money to take care of them in u.s.
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custody within 30 days? >> it is very hard to see how 0 that becomes part of the things that they need --ed that they pass before congress goes out of town and they don't have much time left. they are going on break like they go on every year at the beginning of august and they need to get a lot of things done like spending agreements and a lot of nominations to process. the time search just very tight. >> brennan: very tight and it doesn't seem like there is much movement -- >> it is a big problem. i mean, the trump's own dhs came out and said we need this emergency funding and we need a isis ipoli.o deal with this this is a hutarian crisi trumowpartment said this. and if you just look back i mentioned this before, but a similar crisis in 2014, not as big, the obama administration put forward a similar billion dollars emergency spending proposal supplemental to trying to deal with their own crisis at the border. it was not passed. the party went the they went into recess and the republicans
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blocked it in the house 0 and now it is flipped, the trump administration is saying we need money but there doesn't look like the political will to do anything. the numbers as high as they were they could come down a little but they will remain fairly high, though, over time. it is going to take a while for mexico if they are even going to be able to do anything dramatic to bring any of these numbers down so i think we are looking at a real potential problem here. >> brennan: and senator blunt blames democrats for that, kelsey. what iwhat -- what is the issueh approving this funding to take care of these underage kids? >> well because it always gets intertwined with the wall and that for a lot of democrats at this point when the president says immigration they hear wall and it is very difficult for republicans to separate that out, because a lot of constituents, a lot of voters hear when the 43 says immigration, the wall, the same way democrats do, and the longer that that goes on the more that democrats -- the conversation about the wall the harder it gets for them to pass anything and i think that if they want to get the border supplemental tone the best opportunity they have anybody to combine wit some other thing that absolutely has to pass, but we know that has it
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own perils. >> brennan: and when is that going to happen? >> it is a great question. i mean, they have to keep the government open after september 30th, and they would like to get a deal to increase spending before them. so there is a lot of moving parts at this point. >> if the president shut the government 30 days over the border walls and the numbers continued to go up at the border and said i will shut down the entire border to tourism and trade, and the numbers continued to go up now he threatened the tariffs and the number is the highest ever. we don't know any of this stuff works. >> brennan: well, what we do know that immigration is something the president wants to talk about on the campaign trail, though republicans would like to stay focused on the economy, the other thing that seems to be resonant on both sides is the abortion issue right now. having this be so front and center in the 2020 race, does this hurt democrats? does this help democrats? >> , you know, traditionally,
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abortion has been a voting issue primarily on the side of people who oppose abortion. it has been a top priority for them. but if you look at, you know, the chaining make-up of the supreme court, if you look at some of the laws that are being passed out in the states in places like alabama and georgia specifically as an effort to overturn roe v. wade, what you are seeing is that it is rising as a priority among democrats, and the fervor i think right now is there. the fact is, public opinion on abortion has always been complicated, going all the way back to roe v. wade. what you had was a plurality of people having, you know, morality advertise with abortion, but a majority, a small majority, a close majority of people want to see it remain legal in most of the circumstances in which it is used. this is now being tested in a way that i think is energizing democrats. >> brennan: and, mark, when those people who openly had a moral issue as you put wit
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abortion has been haven't biden who has been very open as catholic, it is problematic for him but then we saw this, what is characterized as a flip flop by some this week where he now now says he can no longer block federal funding of abortion. yeah, that's right. so joe biden like many other democrats even though he had these sort of very ambiguous views felt that sort of the right balance to strike was, to not oppose a woman's right to abortion but acknowledge that federal funding shouldn't be used to pay for it. this was known as the hyde amendment, it passed on a bipartisan basis for many years. but what joe biden has discovered is, he is no longer in the mainstream of his party. she really an outlier at this point, and not only that, it is really not a sustainable position so after initially sticking to the position via aid is a saying he is not changing his view o on this he was forced to do this rather embarrassing flip flop which, you know, raises questions in the mind of some democrats about the other elements of joe biden's very,
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very long legislative record. is he going to have to flip flop on iraq? he already has acknowledged he regrets the iraq vote. is he going have to flip flop on the crime bill? there are a lot of things in joe biden's record which is very different than many others in the field just because of how long he has been doing this. thathat we may see this kind of pattern of him being forced to reckon with the positions he took. >> brennan: and we there talk about that on the other 0 side of this as well. in the challenge of 2020. we will look back at the legacy of american leadership, 75 years from d-day. >> hold on a second. >> man, that's a cool looking hot tub. we shoul he's so sweet. maybe too sweet?
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beyond work and life... who else could he be? there is the moment. beyond technology... there is human ingenuity. ♪ ♪ every day, comcast business is helping businesses go beyond the expected, to do the extraordinary. take your business beyond. >> brennan: on june 6th, 1944, allied troops landed on a 50-mile stretch of french coastline, poised to fight nazi germany. it was the largest sea invasion in history and it helped change the course of world war ii. d order th is tece grew a new today. >> it was a rare moment of unity, come at this and reflection thursday on the hallowed ground of normandy where 10,000 soldiers, more than 2,000 of them american lost their lives in the fight for
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freedom. >> you among the very greatest americans who will ever live. you are the pride of our nation. you are the glory of our republic. and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts. [ applause ] >> >> brennan: it has been 75 years since d-day but as france's president emmanuel macron expressed, some deaths can never be repaid. >> we know what we owe to you veterans, our freedom, on behalf of my nation, i just want to say thank you. [ applause ] >> brennan: he also thanked those veterans for as he put it, the heritage of peace they left behind, the world order that america shaped. out of the ashes of war america rebuilt its broken and bankrupt allies through the marshal plan and even shored up its defeated
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enemies. the imf and the world bank were created from the countries out, to lift 0 countries out of poverty, the united nations to preserve world peace and nato to guard it. standing at normandy in 1984, president ronald reagan described it as america's vow to our dead. >> the strength of american's allies is vital to the united states and the american security guarantee is essential to the continued freedom of europe's democracies. we were with you then. we are with you now. your hopes are our hopes and your destiny is our destiny. here in this place, wh a vow to our dead, strengthened by their courage, heartened by their value and born from their : day those ideals
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and values are being challenged by populist movements in europe causing frac pictures in their union and in the u.s., where some wonder whether america still benefits from the world order if the crafted. president trump himself often calls into question america's alliances, including with those countries who fought alongside it at normandy. but on thursday, the tumultuous political moment we now live in seemed to pause, to remember the enormous legacy of american leadership. >> the american sons and daughters who saw us to victory were no less extraordinary in peace.uilt fies. they built industries. they built a national culture that inspired the entire world. >> brennan: politics may no longer stop at the quarters' edge, alliances may be cracked or frayed but for a moment honor
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mandy's shores this week the world celebrated again the values and veterans who continued to define american greatness. and we will be right back. >> nd getting the skills to use new tools. so, in case you're looking, we've put all the ways we can help in one place. free training, tools, and small business resources are now available at google.com/grow ♪ i want it that way... i can't believe it. that karl brought his karaoke machine? ♪ ain't nothing but a heartache... ♪ no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. ♪ i never wanna hear you say... ♪ no, kevin... no, kevin!
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>> brennan: for "face the nation", i am margaret brennan.
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