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olds do, right? >> yeah. >> levi draheim is one of 21 kids asking the federal courts to block the u.s. government from continuing the use of fossil fuels. they say it's causing climate change, and they've amassed 50 years of evidence that's already forced the government to make some remarkable admissions. >> they've got them with their own words. >> it's really the clearest, most compelling evidence i've ever had in any case i've litigated, in over 20 years. ( ticking ) ♪ ♪ >> now, that's the thing, you know. good little band. ♪ jojo was a man who thought he was a loner ♪ >> have you ever wondered what it would be like to meet paul mccartney and talk about the beatles? well, so have we. >> this is outside abbey road, after we'd made the abbey road crossing picture. and i remember talking to john about his taxes. someone had said to me, "you
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common with the deadliest massacres-- the ar-15 semiautomatic rifle. variations of the ar-15 were used to kill at two new zealand mosques, a pittsburgh synagogue, texas church, a las vegas concert, marjorie stoneman douglas high school in florida, and sandy hook elementary school. the ar-15 style rifle is the most popular rifle in america. there are well over 11 million, and they are rarely used in crime. handguns kill far more people. but as we first reported last november, the ar-15 is the choice of our worst mass murderers. ar-15 ammunition travels three times the speed of sound. and tonight, we're going to slow that down, so you can see why the ar-15's high velocity ammo is the fear of every american emergency room. >> hang on, hang on, hang on!
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( gunfire ) >> pelley: mass shootings were once so shocking... >> where the ( bleep ) is this coming from? >> pelley: ...they were impossible to forget. >> we have an active shooter inside the fairground! >> pelley: now, they've become so frequent... >> get down, get down, get down, let's go, let's go, let's go! >> pelley: ...it's hard to remember them all. ( gunfire ) >> oh my god, we're all going to die! >> pelley: last october, in a pittsburgh synagogue, 11 were killed, six wounded. just 11 months before, it was a church in sutherland springs, texas. assistant fire chief rusty duncan was among the first to arrive. >> rusty duncan: 90% of the people in there were unrecognizable. you know i mean, it just covered them from head to toe. they were shot in so many
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different places that you just couldn't make out who they were. >> pelley: the church is now a memorial to the 26 who were murdered. >> duncan: i've never had the experience, not with any kind of weapon like this. for me to see the damage that it did was unbelievable. it was shattering concrete. i-- you know, you can only imagine what it does to a human body. >> pelley: the police estimate that he fired about 450 rounds. >> duncan: oh, i believe it. i saw the damage it did. i saw the holes in the church. from one side to the other, all the pews, the concrete, the carpet... i saw it all. >> pelley: a gunshot wound is potentially fatal, no matter what kind of ammunition is used. but against gelatin targets, in her ballistics lab at the university of southern california. >> cynthia bir: years of
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research have gone in to kind of what the makeup should be of this ordnance gelatin, to really represent what damage you would see in your soft tissues. pelley: so this is a pretty accurate representation of what would happen to a human being? >> bir: yeah, this is currently considered the-- kind of the state of the art. ( gunshot ) >> pelley: this is a 9 millimeter bullet from a handgun, which we captured in slow motion. the handgun bullet traveled about 800 miles an hour. it sliced nearly straight all the way through the gel. >> bir: this one is going to be a little bit louder. >> pelley: now, look at the ar-15 round. ( gunshot ) >> bir: see the difference? >> pelley: yes. it's three times faster, and struck with more than twice the force. the shockwave of the ar-15 bullet blasted a large cavity in the gel, unlike the bullet from the handgun. wow. there's an enormous difference. you can see it right away. >> bir: yeah, exactly. there's fragments in here. there's-- it kind of took a curve and came out.
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you can see a much larger area, in terms of the fractures that are inside. >> pelley: now watch from above. on top, the handgun. at bottom, the ar-15. it's just exploded. >> bir: it's exploded and it's tumbling. so what happens is, this particular round is designed to tumble and break apart. >> pelley: the 9 millimeter handgun round has a larger bullet, but this ar-15 round has more gunpowder, accelerating its velocity. both the round and the rifle were designed in the 1950s for the military. the result was the m-16 for our troops, and the ar-15 for civilians. >> bir: there's going to be a lot more damage to the tissues, both bones, organs, whatever gets kind of even near this bullet path. the bones aren't going to just break, they're going to shatter. organs aren't just going to kind of tear or have bruises on them, they're going to be-- parts of them are going to be destroyed.
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>> pelley: that fairly describes the wounds suffered by 29-year- old joann ward. at sutherland springs baptist church, she was shot more than 20 times while covering her children. ward was dead, her daughters mortally wounded, as assistant fire chief rusty duncan made his way from the back of the sanctuary. >> duncan: as i got a couple of rows up, ryland's hand reached out from under his step-mom and grabbed my pant leg. i wouldn't even known he was alive until he did that. i didn't even see him under her. well, that's where me and him made eye contact for the first time. >> pelley: joann ward's five- year-old step-son ryland ward was hit five times, and was nearly gone when he reached trauma surgeon lillian liao at san antonio's university hospital. how much of ryland's blood do you think was lost before he came to you? >> lillian liao: at least half. >> pelley: this is ryland's e.r. x-ray. >> liao: you see the two bullet
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fragments that are in him. >> pelley: the x-ray shows you the solid fragments of the shrapnel and the bullets, but it doesn't tell you much about the damage to the soft tissue. >> liao: no, and it doesn't tell you what's on the inside. i mean, a bomb went off on the inside, and our job is to go in there and clean it up. >> pelley: a bomb went off on the inside because of the shockwave from these high- velocity rounds. >> liao: correct. >> pelley: ryland endured 24 surgeries to repair his arm, leg, pelvis, intestines, kidney, bladder and hip. >> liao: at some point, it's like putting humpty dumpty back together again. >> pelley: what do you mean? >> liao: well, his organs are now in different pieces, and you have to reconstruc.e arm missin, skin, muscle, and part of the nerves were damaged. the bowel has to be put backsotr to heal itseso you c see
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that he can walk around like a normal child and behave as normal as possible. >> pelley: with the ar-15, it's not just the speed of the bullet, but also how quickly hundreds of bullets can be fired. the ar-15 is not a fully automatic machine gun. it fires only one round with each pull of the trigger. ( gunfire ) but in las vegas, it sounded like a machine gun. >> that's an ar! ( gunfire ) go, go, go! >> pelley: a special add-on device, called a bump stock, allowed the killer to pull the trigger rapidly enough to kill 58 and wound 489. >> let's go! come to me, hands up! >> pelley: in other mass killings, the ar-15 was fired without a bump stock, but even then, it can fire about 60 rounds a minute. ( gunfire ) ammunition magazines that hold up to 100 rounds can be changed in about five seconds.
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>> maddy wilford: i remember hearing the gunshots go off and being so nervous and scared, and all of the sudden, i felt something hit me. >> pelley: you'd been shot how many times? >> wilford: four times. >> pelley: how many surgeries? >> wilford: three. for my arm, my stomach and my ribs and lung. >> pelley: in february of 2018, 17-year-old maddy wilford was at school-- marjorie stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. ( crying ) 17 were murdered, 17 wounded. >> wilford: and i just remember thinking to myself... "there's no way," like, "not me, please, not me. i don't want to go yet." >> laz ojeda: her vital signs were almost nonexistent. she looked like all the blood had gone out of her body.
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she was in a state of deep shock. >> pelley: paramedic laz ojeda saved maddy wilford, in part, because broward county e.m.s. recently equipped itself for the battlefield wounds that the ar-15 inflicts. >> ojeda: we carry active killer kits in our rescues. >> pelley: active killer kits? >> ojeda: yes. >> pelley: what is that? >> ojeda: that is a kit that has five tourniquets, five decompression needles, five hemostatic agents, five emergency trauma dressings. >> pelley: dr. peter antevy, broward county medical director, told us today's wounds demand a new kind of training. >> peter antevy: if i take you through one of our ambulances or take you through our protocols, almost everything we do is based on what the military has taught us. we never used to carry tourniquets. we never used to carry chest seals. these were things that were done in the military for many, many years. >> pelley: when did all of that change? >> antevy: it really changed, i think, after sandy hook. >> pelley: after sandy hook
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elementary school, where 20 first graders and six educators were killed with ar-15 rounds, a campaign called "stop the bleed" began nationwide. antevy and doctors including lillian liao in san antonio, are training civilians who are truly the first responders. there have been more than 45,000 classes like this in the last four years. >> antevy: you have to go the second wrap to actually stop the bleeding here. does it hurt? yeah, her face-- you can undo it now. the day after the shooting, my kids, they're waking up, and they're, "time to go to school." and my son heard, kind of heard what happened the night before, when i was on the scene, and he looked at me with the fear of god that he had to go to school that day. my first instinct was, "he needs a bleeding kit." my son today has a bleeding kit on his person. >> pelley: how old is he? >> antevy: 12 years old. here it is.
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this is it. we, we, i've given him this, and i've tauhim how use it. >> pelley: you believe that these mass casualty events have become so common-- >> antevy: absolutely. >> pelley: --that it is important for everyone in this country to be prepared? >> antevy: everyone. >> pelley: that's where we are in america today? >> antevy: that's where we are. >> pelley: ryland ward survived the church massacre because firefighter rusty duncan used his belt as a tourniquet. >> therapist: look where you're going. >> pelley: for over a year, ryland worked, often six days a week. >> therapist: slow but controlled. >> pelley: learning to sit... >> therapist: all right, we're loosening up all your muscles. >> pelley: ...stand, and walk again. >> ryland ward: am i strong? >> therapist: you're very strong. you're very strong, yes! >> ward: i'm going to see if this actually goes in the hospital, yep. >> pelley: did you meet some new people in the hospital?
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you were there for a long time. >> ward: how do you know? >> pelley: they told me. i talked to some of the people who helped you. >> ward: like who? >> pelley: there was doctor... >> ward: liao? >> pelley: dr. liao, yes. >> liao: oh, how are you? >> ward: i'm good. >> liao: yeah, how's your arm? >> ward: good. >> liao: let me see. >> pelley: he has his strength back. its remarkable, really. but healing from the loss of his stepmother and sisters won't be as quick. >> nichiporenko: how was your day? >> pelley: maddy wilford is also moving forward. like many who suffer physical trauma, her interests have turned to medicine. and an internship... >> nichiporenko: maddy, come here. >> pelley: ...where she is studying the kind of surgeries that saved her. >> everybody out, out, out, out! >> pelley: not long ago, many communities assumed that mass murder would never come to them. >> where's she hit? where's she hit? where's she hit? what's wrong with that girl right there? >> pelley: today, all americans are being asked to prepare for the grievous wounds... >> oh, my god! >> pelley: ...of high velocity
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it seriously, including the government's lawyers, who have since watched the supreme court reject two of their motions to delay or dismiss the case. four years in, it is still very much alive, in part because the plaintiffs have amassed a body of evidence that will surprise even the skeptics, and have forced the government to admit that the crisis is real. the case was born here in eugene, orega paradise, and one of the cradles of environmental activism in the united states. the lead plaintiff, university of oregon student kelsey juliana, was only five weeks old when her parents took her to her first rally to protect spotted owls.y, her mconcern is climate change, drought and the e surrounding cascade mountains. >> kelsey juliana: there was a wildfire season that was so intense, we were advised not to go outside.
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the particulate matter in the smoke was literally off the charts. it was past severe, in terms of danger to health. >> kroft: and you think that's because of climate change. >> juliana: that's what scientists tell me. >> kroft: it's not just scientists. even the federal government now acknowledges in its response to the lawsuit that the effects of climate change are already happening and likely to get worse, especially for young people who will have to deal with them for the long term. how important is this case to you? >> juliana: this case is everything. this is the climate case. we have everything to lose, if we don't act on climate change right now, my generation and all the generations to come. >> okay, here we go! >> kroft: she was 19 when the lawsuit was filed, and the oldest of 21 plaintiffs. they come from ten different states, and all claim to be affected or threatened by the consequences of climate change. the youngest, levi draheim, is in sixth grade. >> kroft: you're 11 years old, and you're suing the united states government.
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that's not what most 11-year- olds do, right? >> levi draheim: yeah. >> kroft: he's lived most of his life on the beaches of a barrier island in florida that's a mile wide and barely above sea level. what's your biggest fear about this island? >> draheim: i fear that i won't have a home here in the future. >> kroft: that the island will be gone. >> draheim: yeah. that the island will be under water, because of climate change. >> kroft: so you feel like you've got a stake in this. >> draheim: yes. >> kroft: the plaintiffs were recruited from environmental groups across the country by julia olson, an oregon lawyer, and the executive director of a non-profit legal organization called "our children's trust." she began constructing the case eight years ago out of this spartan space now dominated by this paper diorama that winds its way through the office. so, what is this? >> julia olson: so, this is a timeline that we put together. >> kroft: it documents what and
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when past u.s. administrations knew about the connection between fossil fuels and climate change. the timeline goes back 50 years, beginning with the presidency of lyndon johnson. >> olson: during president johnson's administration, they issued a report in 1965 that talked about climate change being a catastrophic threat. >> kroft: whether it was a democrat or a republican in office, olson says, there was an awareness of the potential dangers of carbon dioxide emissions. >> olson: every president knew that burning fossil fuels was causing climate change. >> kroft: 50 years of evidence has been amassed by olson and her team, 36,000 pages in all, to be used in court. >> olson: our government, at the highest levels, knew and was briefed on it regularly by the national security community, by the scientific community. they have known for a very long time that it was a big threat. >> kroft: has the government disputed that government officials have known about this for more than 50 years, and been
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told and warned about it for 50 years? >> olson: no. they admit that the government has known for over 50 years that burning fossil fuels would cause climate change. and they don't dispute that we are in a danger zone on climate change. and they don't dispute that climate change is a national security threat and a threat to our economy and a threat to people's lives and safety. they do not dispute any of those facts of the case. >> kroft: the legal proceedings have required the government to make some startling admissions in court filings. it now acknowledges that human activity-- in particular, elevated concentrations of greenhouse gases-- is likely to have been the dominant cause of observed warming since the mid-1900s; that global carbon dioxide concentrations reached levels unprecedented for at least 2.6 million years; that climate change is increasing the risk of loss of
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life and the extinction of many species, and is associated with increases in hurricane intensity, the frequency of intense storms, heavy precipitation, the loss of sea ice and rising sea levels. >> olson: it's really the most compelling evidence i've ever had in any case i've litigated, in over 20 years. >> kroft: the lawsuit claims the executive and legislative branches of government have proven incapable of dealing with climate change. it argues that the government has failed in its obligation to protect the nation's air, water, forests and coast lines. and, it petitions the federal courts to intervene and force the government to come up with a plan that would wean the country off fossil fuels by the middle of this century. >> kroft: you're just saying, "do it-- we don't care how." >> olson: do it well, and do it in the timeframe that it needs to be done. >> kroft: you're talking about a case that could change the economics in this country. >> olson: for the better. >> kroft: well, you say it changes the economy for the
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better, but other pe up >> olsonisry, economists across the board say that we are in for economic crises that we have never seen before. >> kroft: the lawsuit was first filed during the final years of the obama administration in this federal courthouse in eugene. did they take this case seriously when you filed it? >> olson: i think in the beginning they thought they could very quickly get the case dismissed. >> kroft: in november 2016, a federal judge stunned the government by denying its motion to dismiss the case, and ruling it could proceed to trial. in what may become a landmark decision, judge ann aiken wrote, "exercising my reasoned judgment, i have no doubt that the right to a climate system capable of sustaining human life is fundamental to a free and ordered society." a federal judge ever said that before? >> olson: no judge had ever written that before.ft: in
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groundbreabecour have never reca constitutional right to a stable climate. >> ann carlson: that's a big stretch for a court. >> kroft: ann carlson is a professor of environmental law at u.c.l.a. like almost everyone else in the legal community, she was certain the case was doomed. >> carlson: there's no constitutional provision that says that the environment should be protected. >> kroft: why is the idea that the people of the united states have a right to a stable environment such a radical idea? >> carlson: well, i think that judge aiken actually does a very good job of saying it's not radical to ask the government to protect the health, and the lives and the property, of this current generation of kids. look, if you can't have your life protected by government policies that save the planet, then what's the point of having a constitution? plaintiffs won, it'd be massive, particularly if they won what they're asking for, which is, get the federal government out
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of the business of in any way subsidizing fossil fuels, and get them into the business of dramatically curtailing greenhouse gases in order to protect the children who are the plaintiffs, in order to create a safe climate. that would be enormous. >> kroft: so enormous that the trump administration, which is now defending the case, has done everything it can to keep the trial from going forward. it's appealed judge aiken's decision three times to the ninth circuit court in california, and twice to the supreme court. each time, it's failed. >> olson: they don't want it to go to trial. >> kroft: why? >> olson: because they will lose on the evidence that will be presented at trial. >> kroft: and that's why they don't want one. >> olson: that's why they don't want one. they know that once you enter that courtroom and your witnesses take the oath to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, the facts are facts, and alternative facts are perjury. and so, all of these claims and tweets about climate change not
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being real, that doesn't hold up in a court of law. >> kroft: the justice department declined our request for an interview, but in court hearings, in briefs, it's called the lawsuit "misguided, unprecedented and unconstitutional." it argues that energy policy is the legal responsibility of congress and the white house, not a single judge in oregon. and, while climate change is real, it's also a complicated global problem that was not caused and cannot be solved by just the united states government. in other words, it's not responsible. why is the federal government responsible for global warming? i mean, it doesn't produce any carbon dioxide. how are they causing it? >> olson: they're causing it through their actions of subsidizing the fossil fuel energy system, permitting every aspect of our fossil fuel energy system, and by allowing for extraction of fossil fuels from our federal public lands.
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we are the largest oil and gas producer in the world now, because of decisions our federal government has made. >> kroft: what about the chinese government? what about the indian government? >> olson: clearly, it's not just the united states that has caused climate change, but the united states is responsible for 25% of the atmospheric carbon dioxide that has accumulated over the many decades. >> kroft: julia olson is confident they're going to prevail in court. ann carlson and most of the legal community still think it's a long-shot, but she says she's been wrong about this case every step of the way. >> carlson: courts have asked governments to do bold things. the best example would be brown versus the board of education, when the court ordered schools to desegregate with all deliberate speed. so there have been court decisions that have asked governments to do very dramatic things. this might be the biggest. >> kroft: you've been stunned by how far this case has gotten. why has it gotten this far?
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>> carlson: i think there are several reasons this case has actually withstood motions to dismiss. i think the first is that the lawyers have crafted the case in a way that's very compelling. you have a number of kids who are very compelling plaintiffs, who are experiencing the harms of climate change now and will experience the harms of climate change much more dramatically as they get older. i think the hard question here is the law. >> kroft: the latest oral arguments in juliana versus the united states were heard earlier this month in portland. but whatever happens next will certainly be appealed. 2,000 miles away, in the aptly named town of rayne, louisiana, the family of one of the plaintiffs, 15-year-old jayden foytlin, is still rebuilding from the last disaster in 2016 that dumped 18 inches of rain on rayne and southern louisiana in just 48 hours. >> jayden foytlin: that's just something that shouldn't happen. you can't really deny that it,
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climate change has something to do with it. and you can't deny that it's something that we have to pay attention to. i'm not sure if most of louisiana, of south louisiana is going to be here. that's just a really big worry of mine. >> kroft: for the foreseeable future, it's impossible to predict when and how the storms and the lawsuit are likely to end. ( ticking ) >> cbs sports hq is presented by progressive insurance. on the pga power today in connecticut, chas reedy won his first victory in 11 years on tour, his second overall. women's world cup action, round of 16, england and france advance. baseball, yankees fall to the astros. red sox lose to the blue jays. atlanta and the cubs both winners. for 24/7news and highlight, visit cbssportshq.com. jim jim nantz reporting from
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the most successful musician and composer in popular music history? maybe it's because it's nearly impossible to find something new or surprising to talk to sir paul mccartney about. how do you jostle another memory from someone who may be the most written-about person on the planet? this past fall, when the beatles' "white" album turned 50 years old, we decided to go for it. mr. mccartney was funny and reflective, as we used rare photos and film to walk him through some very personal beatles stories, and wondered who, at the age of 77, he is still trying to impress. but let's start with a bit of a revelation-- the man who has sold an estimated billion records, and may be rock and roll's best bass player, can't write or read music. >> paul mccartney: it's-- it's embarrassing. >> alfonsi: is that true? >> mccartney: i don't read music or write music. none of us did, in the beatles. we did some good stuff, though. but none of it was written down by us. it's basically notation. that's the bit i can't do.
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because i don't see music like that. i don't-- >> alfonsi: that's interesting. you don't see music like that? >> mccartney: yeah, i don't see music as dots on a page. it's something in my head that goes on. ♪ one, two, three, four! ♪ ♪ >> alfonsi: from his first countdown, on their first song, off their first album, that "something" has translated globally and across generations. ♪ i won't let you down so you don't need to shout ♪ >> alfonsi: today, mccartney is still seeing music in his head. how do you feel about this one? >> mccartney: i'm proud of it. i like this one. ( ♪ "come on to me" ) >> alfonsi: this one, mccartney's latest album, "egypt station," debuted at number one. when you are writing these songs, who are you trying to impress? >> mccartney: ahaha. everyone. i suppose-- >> alfonsi: that's a tall order. >> mccartney: yeah. well, that is an impossible order, you're right.
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but it doesn't stop me trying. >> alfonsi: but don't people always say, "i love it, paul. you're wonderful." >> mccartney: that-- that is a occupational hazard. >> alfonsi: we spent two days with macca, as friends have called him since liverpool, touring his relic-filled recording studio on the south english coast. >> mccartney: this was at abbey road. and this is-- like, the fireman rushes in. ( ♪ "penny lane" ) >> alfonsi: and we were surprised to find paul mccartney, at 77, seems to feel the same need to prove himself as he did when he was a teenager. >> mccartney: i think people worry about things. and it doesn't matter how elevated you get, or your reputation gets, you still worry about things. i mean, i'm sure-- >> alfonsi: what are you worried about? what else do you have to prove? >> mccartney: i've heard people say that about me. oh, you know, he wants to be liked. but i'm going, doesn't everyone? >> alfonsi: do you worry more now than you used to? >> mccartney: no, it's just who i am, maybe. you know, for instance, when
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we'd done, we were now famous with the beatles and we had done "revolver," one of the early beatle records, and-- i got the horrors one day. i thought it was out of tune. i thought the whole album was out of tune. i listened to it and for some reason, just, like, oh my god. and i went to the guys, i said, "it's out of tune. it's out of-- i don't know what we're going to do." you know? and they said-- and they got a bit worried and listened to it. they said, "no, it isn't." i go, "oh, okay." ♪ i hope you're having fun >> alfonsi: we were with mccartney as he prepared to tour, warming up with some surprise shows, including this one, at liverpool's cavern club. ♪ band on the run >> alfonsi: the beatles played this club almost 300 times, and while mccartney's fans know every word to "hey jude," "yesterday," and "band on the run," we were surprised who didn't-- >> mccartney: when i'm doing
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shows, i listen to a lot of music, beatles music, wings music, to see what ones we're going to do. and to learn them. >> alfonsi: yeah. what do you mean, you've forgotten them? >> mccartney: yeah. >> alfonsi: really? >> mccartney: there's too many. too many words. ( laughs ) too many notes. they're very hard. i mean, you know, it's not like they're all three chords. ♪ i'll pretend that i'm kissing ♪ the lips i am missing >> alfonsi: mccartney is at least a co-author of rock and roll's constitution. ♪ maybe i'm amazed at the way you-- ♪ >> alfonsi: credited with a stunning 29 number-one hits-- ♪ you write me when i'm wrong >> mccartney's work has been covered by icons from almost every musical genre. ♪ you and me-- >> alfonsi: famously, john lennon and paul mccartney became songwriting partners as teenagers. one: a full-throated, lyrical rock and roller. the other: a musical polymath with a gift for melody and
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experimentation. ♪ ♪ those first flute-toned notes on "strawberry fields," john lennon's masterpiece, were mccartney's idea. ♪ let me take you down 'cause i'm going to-- ♪ >> alfonsi: were you guys competitive, writing with each other? or did you complement each other? >> mccartney: me and john? yeah, we were competitive, yeah. not openly, but we-- we later admitted, "yeah, you know, so paul's written a good one there, i better get going." and i would similarly-- "hmm, that's a bit good, right, here we go, come on." if he'd have written "strawberry fields," i would write "penny lane." you know, and it's-- he's remembering his old area in liverpool, so i'll remember mine. >> alfonsi: and when that happened, did you compliment each other? >> mccartney: once... >> alfonsi: one time? >> mccartney: ...john gave me a compliment. >> alfonsi: in how many years? ( laughter ) >> mccartney: it was only once, the whole time. no, i think it was "revolver,"
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but it was "here, there and everywhere," was-- was one of my songs on it. ♪ here making each day of the year ♪ >> alfonsi: and-- but john says, just when it finishes, "that's a really good song, lad. i love that song." i was like, "yes, he likes it!" you know, and i-- i've remembered it to this day. it's pathetic, really. >> alfonsi: did you ever heap praise on him? >> mccartney: yeah, i would tell him his stuff was great. you'd normally have to be a little bit drunk. it helped. >> alfonsi: you don't need to be a beatle fan to appreciate the importance of this part of london. for tourists, it rivals big ben, or trying to catch a glimpse of the royal grandkids. abbey road studios, where paul, john, george, and ringo, along with producer george martin, began denting pop culture, first with jangly, flirty harmonies. ♪ but she don't care
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( ♪ "hey bulldog" ) >> alfonsi: and later, by exploring, then defining, what music could be. ♪ blackbird singing in the dead of night ♪ >> alfonsi: but during tense sessions for what would become the "white album," 50 years ago, the beatles, still only in their 20s, began breaking apart. ♪ you were only waiting for this moment to arrive ♪ >> mccartney: i love this picture. yeah, this is very special for me, this series. because after the beatles broke up, i kind of got accused of being "the one that broke them up," and that we always had terrible relationships. so this always reminds me of how happy we were together. i'm checking some lyrics or something. and it's just great, the-- the way john's sor just g. we're obviously just two mates, you know. >> alfonsi: taking the pictures was paul's first wife, the late linda mccartney. os, fromlife ine inti a
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ic >> mccartney: we were in the studio downstairs putting finishing touches to the album. and-- we had another title going on that we didn't really like. so i just said, "hey, why don't we just call it 'abbey road?' and what we could do, we just go right outside, walk across the crossing. ( slaps ) it's done." you know, and it was like, "yeah, okay." everyone agreed. so... >> alfonsi: where-- where were your shoes? >> mccartney: i had sandals on. but i just left them over here to the left, because it was a very hot day. this is outside abbey road, after we'd made the abbey road crossing picture. and i remember talking to john about his taxes. someone had said to me, "you better warn him, because he doesn't know what's going on." >> alfonsi: about taxes. that's why you have this glum look on your face? >> mccartney: ( laughs ) that's maybe why he's got the glum look. i've got the, "i need to talk to you about your taxes" look. >> alfonsi: what about this one? >> mccartney: this is in our back garden. and, yoko's in it.
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and you could see by the looks on our faces, all-- all except john, we're kind of going-- "why is she in the beatles' photo?" >> alfonsi: but how did that happen? >> mccartney: because-- how did what? >> alfonsi: that she was allowed in the photo? >> mccartney: because they were madly in love, and john wanted to take her everywhere. i think none of us dared say, "john, you know..." but we all felt it. so, it was a bit awkward for us, i must admit. >> alfonsi: this is my very favorite photograph. >> mccartney: oh, yeah. that little baby in my jacket now has four children of her own. >> alfonsi: mccartney credits his love of family and music to his father, jim, who raised paul after his mother died when he was just 14. today, the man who wrote "mother nature's son" has four grown children, a 15-year-old daughter and eight grandchildren. ao owedccartney wt amounted to home video of the beatles... >> mccartney: here we are. it's cold. and we're coming out. >> alfonsi: ...from their last
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live performance together. >> mccartney: there's me testing the roof. >> alfonsi: the apple rooftop concert in london. ( ♪ "get back" ) >> mccartney: now, that's the thing, you know. good little band. ♪ jojo was a man who thought he was a loner ♪ but he knew it couldn't last >> alfonsi: sounds pretty good. >> mccartney: it does, yeah. ♪ get back get back ♪ >> alfonsi: million dollar business conflicts and creative differences were carrying a lot of weight. but watch them try and hold back smiles as they rock through a song they wrote as teenagers. i think you see it here. ♪ say move over once move over twice ♪ come on baby, don't be cold as ice ♪ she said she's traveling on the one after 909 ♪ >> alfonsi: that doesn't look like a band about to break up. that look between you two-- >> mccartney: yeah, i know. it's funny, isn't it, yeah. it was when the business crept in and it got a bit sticky, you know. it never got really that bad. but we do-- we ended up bitching
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at each other from afar, you know. >> alfonsi: the business part of things worked out pretty well for mr. mccartney-- he's wor more than a billion dollars. but for the last seven years, he says his good fortune is due to his wife, nancy, an american, who he calls beautiful and real. though, he realizes it's probably tricky being married to one of the most famous faces on earth. >> mccartney: just being recognized by everyone-- i mean, you don't always need that. it's-- it's a very difficult thing, you know, because you-- you don't want to sort of be mean to them, because they're nice people, they genuinely like you. but you have to draw the line. these days, everyone's got a camera. >> alfonsi: everyone has a camera. thing, when i see petheyand thnn anyt. they jt go-- "we'll picture"-- "no," i say, and sorry, i don't do pictures, but i'm very happy to shake your hand and we'll have a chat."
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>> alfonsi: no selfies? who cares? ♪ ♪ the headline is, if you meet paul mccartney, you can have a chat ! and who doesn't want to have a chat with a beatle? ♪ lady madonna, children at your feet ♪ >> alfonsi: or listen to one, on his world tour. ♪ make ends meet >> alfonsi: where are you most content? when are you most content? >> mccartney: i live on a farm in england, it's about 20 minutes from here. and for me, it's great, because i can be in, like, australia, playing to 40,000 people two days before. now i'm back on the farm and i'm on my horse, and we're going into the woods, and it's quiet, little bi-- ( whistles ) birds singing. so, that is very satisfying, and it's a great balance. >> alfonsi: what's the biggest misconception about you? really i don't-- i don't hear about n' what people tnk
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about me. i can-- i can try and guess. i'll-- i'll-- i'll tell you what, "you must have no insecurities." just like anyone else, you have insecurities. because everyone has them. and no matter how high and great and wonderful you get, there's still something will make you worry. >> alfonsi: were you ever just going to go, "i'm good, i did it all?" >> mccartney: i would like to think i could do that. but i think it would be boring, and i think i'd sort of give up trying. and i quite like that i don't think i've done good enough yet. >> alfonsi: imagine that. paul mccartney won't just let it be. >> we'll see you next time! ( cheers and applause ) ( ticking ) >> insecurities. we all have them. did john lennon? >> john! listen to me. look at me. >> go to 60minutesovertime.com. >> sponsored by cologuard.
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