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telligent mobility. ♪ captioning funded by cbs and ford. we go further, so you can. >> thank you. >> have a great tour. >> steve case is a billionaire with a bus, on a mission, steering venture capitalists and their money to areas they've typically overlooked. >> i started this company with only $500 in my pocket. >> places like this old church in memphis have become the stage for entrepreneurs to pitch their products... >> the winner of the pitch competition is soundways! ( cheers and applause ) >> ...hoping to get a share of case's $150 million fund. ( ticking ) >> our adventure led us high above the arctic circle, to find out why the earth is warming so fast, so far below. how far below the surface are we
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right now? >> right now, we are about ten meters. >> so, about 30 feet? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> we met a scientist who enjoys russian vodka, smokes like a soviet steel mill, and believes these massive bones, exposed by warming, could bring the extinct wooly mammoth back from the dead. that's amazing! ( ticking ) >> that word, dignity, to you is important. >> you know, the people made me realize it's important in every single pasting. >> dignity is something that all of us want-- >> all of us, anywhere. >> no matter what, any walk of life? >> no matter the background. >> why? because the issues people are facing are life and death? >> yeah, of course. dignity goes through the way we're being seen by the others, the way we portrayed ourself. >> i think some people hearing that are going to say, "look, you're telling me that people, you know, who don't know where their next meal is coming from, who are struggling to survive care about art?" >> you know what, yes. ( ticking ) >> i'm steve kroft.
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shhhhh! ♪ what's in your wallet? shhhhh! >> alfonsi: for years, pundits have declared the united states has split into "two americas"-- a nation divided by politics, geography and the economy. but as we first reported in march, one tech icon believes he can help even out the playing field. steve case, the man who
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co-founded america online, and injected the jingle "you've got mail!" into the american lexicon, is now trying to steer venture capitalists, and their money, to areas they've typically overlooked-- mostly, small towns and cities in the middle of the country. his vehicle to do that is a $150 million investment fund, and a 35-foot-long bright red bus. we joined the billionaire on his bus for a recent road trip... >> all right, let's go! >> alfonsi: ...and soon found ourselves aiming for the edge of a wheat field in tennessee. steve case is here to meet a few entrepreneurs who say they've created a new technology thatrm these robots auaminiate tractore operated remotely. >> entrepreneur: what you're able to do is cut that travel time down to one-third, and maximize productive time in the field. >> alfonsi: the entrepreneurs are looking for a cash infusion from case to jumpstart their business.
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case is looking for the next big idea, and is knee-deep in his quest. typically, how hard has it been for these guys out here to get the attention of... capital? >> steve case: super hard. super hard. right now, 75% of venture capital goes to three states: california, new york and massachusetts. most of the venture capital is on the coasts, not in the middle of the country. and we just have to change that. >> alfonsi: tech behemoths like amazon and google have doubled down on big cities, but case believes the best opportunities are off the beaten path. and that's where the bus comes in. >> thank you. >> have a great tour. >> alfonsi: case and his team are scouring the middle of the country, looking for promising ideas overlooked by silicon valley. they've traveled to 43 cities and 27 states, thousands of miles, often spending 12 hours a day on the road. you're a successful guy. you've made a fortune. why in the world do you want to ride around on a bus in the
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middle of the country for 12 hours a day, day after day? >> case: because i believe in these entrepreneurs. i believe... >> alfonsi: but you could believe in them from washingpj, d.c., and send your people out. but you go there, and you get on the bus and you drive around. so why are you on the bus? >> case: i want to get everybody on the bus. there are entrepreneurs like me all over the country. most people are not paying attention to them. most people in their communities don't believe in them. most people on the coasts don't think there's anything interesting, innovative, happening in the middle of the country. >> alfonsi: so convinced there is money to be made in the middle of america, case raised $150 million to create what he calls the "rise of the rest" fund. "the rest," referring to entrepreneurs in cities like indianapolis, detroit and birmingham-- areas usually overlooked by venture capitalists. >> case: if you care about this city, you have to invest in start-ups. >> alfonsi: today's stop: memphis. >> jessica buffington: i started
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this company with only $500 in my pocket. >> alfonsi: dozens of entrepreneurs have gathered in a dusty church to pitch case and his team their ideas. among the competitors, the inventor of a new headlight... >> marcus boykin: this technology converts a high beam into a low beam illumination. >> alfonsi: ...the maker of a bio-degradable medical device... >> kayla rodriguez: we are the first to encapsulate the benefits of honey, create a solid product and deliver it as an implant to heal you internally. >> alfonsi: ...and a former musician who has come up with a better way for fellow musicians to get paid for their work. >> gebre waddell: we've built an imdb-style database for the music industry that helps give credit where credit is due. >> case: sweetbio? >> alfonsi: backstage, case and his team quickly vote. >> case: five, six, seven. >> alfonsi: minutes later... >> case: the winner of the pitch competition is soundways. ( cheers and applause ) come on up! >> alfonsi: the winner gets $100,000 to grow their business.
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pocket change for case, but a shot of adrenaline for the city's struggling economy. ♪ ♪ the poverty rate in memphis is almost two times the national average, crime is rampant, and 30,000 people have left the city in the last decade. >> case: steve case. how you doing? >> alfonsi: memphis is a hard sell to investors, and entrepreneurs have paid for it. >> case: i realized it because i, you know, spent a lot of time traveling around the country. there-- most people in this country wake up in the morning anxious, fearful about the future. >> alfonsi: fearful? >> case: they're fearful. >> alfonsi: why? >> case: because the things they see happening, mostly on the coasts, are hurting their family, hurting their community. they see that these silicon valley companies bragging about "disruption," sometimes that's code words for job destruction in their backyard. and that troubles them. they're losing jobs, not gaining jobs. >> alfonsi: and do you feel that when you go there?
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do you feel that they think, "we've kind of been forgotten here?" >> case: of course. they have been forgotten. it's not about a feeling about being left behind. they have been left behind. we have to kind of level the playing field, so everybody, everywhere, really does feel like they have a shot at the american dream. right now, they don't. >> alfonsi: j.d. vance agrees. it's the reason he became case's partner in the rise of the rest fund. vance wrote the "new york times" best-seller, "hillbilly elegy." do you still consider yourself a hillbilly? >> j.d. vance: ( laughs ) i certainly do. i certainly do, and it's the thing i'm proudest of. >> alfonsi: a hillbilly in a blue blazer now? ( laughter ) >> vance: yeah, well, my wife dressed me, so you can talk to her about that. >> alfonsi: vance's book details his upbringing in appalachia, surrounded by heart-breaking poverty, drug addiction and instability. after a stint in the marines, then earning degrees from ohio state and yale law school, vance began a career as a high-tech investor in silicon valley. >> vance: i definitely get a
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little bit skeptical when somebody's developing a new app for parking, and they tell me they're changing the world. so, i do think sometimes, folks in san francisco can drink a little bit too much of their own kool-aid. >> alfonsi: discouraged by so-called "transformational technologies" that weren't, two years ago, vance moved back to ohio to help run the rise of the rest fund.s licon valley friends had pre-conceived ideas about people from small towns. did you ever feel like you had to be defensive about where you were from? >> vance: oh, sure, sure. i felt like i definitely had to defend this part of the world, had to defend some of the people who lived here. >> alfonsi: defend them from what? >> vance: i think, defend them from the assumption that they're all stupid, and that they don't know what they really want in the world. i think there is this presumption that the only people who live here are the people who are forced to live here. they can't get out, or they're too dumb to know that they should leave. and that's just not true. i think people are here because they care about their communities and they want to build something special here, just as folks in san francisco want to build something special
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there. >> alfonsi: kentucky native jonathan webb wants to build something special in his home state. we met him in pikeville, kentucky. once a thriving coal town in the heart of appalachia, it's been hemorrhaging jobs and residents. one in three people here make less than $12,000 a year, living below the poverty line. webb thinks kentucky is the perfect place to build high-tech greenhouses, and here's why. most u.s. produce comes from the west and mexico, traveling thousands of miles to get to our plates. webb says kentucky's central location means he can save on fuel costs, and get fresher products to stores faster. >> jonathan webb: we can get to 70% of the u.s. population in a one-day drive. >> alfonsi: rise of the rest has invested in webb's idea. >> webb: i want to be a high school student in eastern kentucky right now! >> alfonsi: now, he's trying to convince the local high school students here, there's a future
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in eastern kentucky. >> student one: there's not anything here right now. and i hope and pray for our community that something does come back here, but as of now, it's impossible for all of us to stay, even though 90% of us want to, and be able to live the kind of lives to where we could support ourselves and our family too. >> student two: my whole family's here, they've been here. but there's just-- there's nothing here. no jobs, nothing. >> alfonsi: you worry about your parents? >> student two: yes. and, like, you worry how-- how are you going to make it? i mean, how-- i mean, how can they live paycheck to paycheck? and you want to help, but there's just no future for you. >> alfonsi: pikeville, like much of the region, has been gripped by the opioid epidemic. >> student two: our overdose rate is huge. so many people, that's what they die from around here. like, you-- i mean, that's what it-- that's what it is. >> alfonsi: jonathan webb has contracts with local rehab centers to hire recovering addicts. starting salaries will be $13 an hour, nearly double kentucky's minimum wage. >> webb: folks need opportunity. and if they don't have opportunity, we are going to continue in that cycle here.
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>> alfonsi: this walmart is the town's biggest employer, and the hills here are scarred with ads for personal injury attorneys. we counted 15 of them in town. and eastern kentucky has one of the highest rates in the country for people who've stopped looking for work. i'm going to play devil's advocate. >> vance: sure. >> alfonsi: people who say, "this is an area that's been riddled with a drug problem. they don't really have the desire to work." what do you say to that? how do you answer that? >> vance: we shouldn't just accept that the story should be one of decline. and that's what i think-- you know, at its core, what rise of the rest is about is refusing to see the worst in any place. we want to see the best. i'm a venture capitalist, so i'm pretty comfortable with risk. if you look, even the best venture capitalists, a very large share of the companies that they invest in fail. and to me, what we ultimately want is to recognize that, just because a place is risky, doesn't mean it can't ultimately be productive. >> alfonsi: but it's not easy? >> vance: no, it's certainly not easy. and i don't think that five
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years from now, we're going to completely change the economy of appalachia, or any other part of the country. but i do think that what you're seeing is some real long-term momentum to bring more economic prosperity to broad parts of the country, not just a few cities on the coasts. >> alfonsi: in the past year, the rise of the rest fund has invested in 125 companies in 63 cities. some of the biggest names in business are investors. members of walmart's walton family, former facebook president sean parker, and google's eric schmidt. >> eric schmidt: give the one thing free away... >> alfonsi: not just offering cash, but advice to the entrepreneurs. they've had some success. watchmaker shinola, who they discovered on their first bus tour through detroit, now has treme poverty, they investedof in catalyte, a company that developed an artificial intelligence test to identify people with aptitude for software development, no experience or education
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required. pass the test, and catalyte will train you. company president jacob hsu says about 90% of their trainees land six-figure jobs as software developers. >> jacob hsu: our people come from all walks of life. we have fast food workers, we have teachers, musicians, artists, truck drivers, security guards. we have people who come from all over, right, into these, into these positions. >> alfonsi: catalyte is rapidly expanding, and plans to open in 20 cities in the next two years. >> hsu: this isn't kindergarten engineering; this is the real deal. we're not doing it just for a charity, we're doing it because we found a better way. >> alfon: ba in ville, j.d. vance and jonathan webb are hunting for a second greenhouse site on top of an abandoned mine. do you think you're going to make money? i mean, is this just something that feels good for the region, or-- or is this a good investment? >> vance: we're doing this certainly because it feels good, but we think it'll work, too. >> alfonsi: the stakes are high. not just for the entrepreneurs, but, steve case says, for the
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country. for the skeptics who say this is just a vanity project for steve case? >> case: they can say whatever they want. i think it's important. >> alfonsi: and why is it important? why does it matter? if it doesn't happen, then what? >> case: i think we're going to take what's already a pretty big divide in this country, and it's going to get a lot worse. >> alfonsi: to get the attention of those venture capitalists, you have to be successful. you have to make money. so how much pressure is there to get this right? >> case: oh, we've got to get this right. >> you two get in the middle here! >> case: this, to me, really is about the future of america. ( ticking ) the noble tortilla was created
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>> pelley: temperatures in the arctic continue to warm twice as fast as the rest of the world; that's according to the u.s. government's latest climate report. the past five years in the arctic have been the warmest there since records began in 1900. decades ago, an eccentric russian geophysicist warned that frozen soil, called permafrost, contained enough greenhouse gas itself to pose a threat to the climate if it ever melted.feat y zimov's warning, but now that the permafrost is collapsing, the world is listening.
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we traveled last summer to the siberian arctic to meet zimov, who has devised a scheme to save the world in a place that he named for the last ice age: pleistocene park. our trip took three days, and our final leg in an adventure of geo-science was on an aeronautical fossil-- a soviet-era antonov. we approached a siberia we had never seen in our imaginations: a forest touching the horizon, in a land sequined with lakes. this was far north even by a siberian compass-- above the arctic circle, where the kolyma river fills the east siberian sea. 15 time zones from new york, we found the aspiring ghost town of chersky. a trading port in soviet times, cherksy was gutted by the fall of communism-- losing 80% of its
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residents. there's not much reason to visit, unless, like many scientists today, you're beating a path to the northeast scientific station to meet its founder, 63-year-old sergey zimov. hello. >> sergey zimov: hello. >> pelley: i'm scott. >> sergey zimov: i'm sergey. >> pelley: nice to see you, sergey. he welcomed us in summer, when fireweed enjoys a few weeks of liberation. but 40 siberian winters remained indelible on zimov's face-- the price of solitude for a geophysicist who longed to be remote from his communist bosses. when people hear the word "siberia," they think about exile. but it sounds to me like exile's exactly what you had in mind. only one problem, so long winter. >> pelley: the winter's long? >> sergey zimov: yes. >> pelley: winters are l ever, but not as cold. this ground was once so icy, humankind named it permafrost.
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but in the 1990s, zimov noticed, it wasn't so permanent. >> sergey zimov: frozen ground. do you hear? >> pelley: yup. >> sergey zimov: it's roof of permafrost. >> pelley: he can remember when his shovel wouldn't bite the frozen surface. but now, he's down more than six feet. >> sergey zimov: in the past, all our soil, which was melted in summer, freeze everywhere totally, and it happened usually in november, december. now, in all winter, it did not freeze. >> pelley: what does that tell you? >> sergey zimov: it means permafrost is melt. >> pelley: this is a warning to the world, because organic matter in the permafrost-- plants and animals-- has been frozen for hundreds of thousands of years. as it thaws, microbes consume that organic matter and release carbon dioxide and methane, greenhouse gases which contribute to a warmer climate. we just pulled this up out of the hole, and it's burning my
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fingers, it's so cold. >> sergey zimov: yes, soil with water, and water is ice. in five minutes it will be melt. >> pelley: years ago, zimov calculated there is enough carbon in permafrost to threaten the world. but, big science gave that idea a cold shoulder-- maybe in part because of zimov himself. he endures siberian winters when most russians head south. he enjoys a refreshing vodka from time to time, smokes like a soviet steel mill, and often just lies down to think. >> max holmes: i sometimes describe him as somewhere between a madman and a genius. >> pelley: max holmes is a leading climate scientist, and deputy director of the woods hole research center in massachusetts. he told us, zimov's key discovery was that siberian permafrost held far more carbon than anyone knew. when zimov made this observation, he couldn't get his
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papers published in scientific journals. >> holmes: it can take a while to get papers published that fly in the face of conventional wisdom. >> pelley: but science warmed to zimov's theory, no published dozens of papers in science journals. max holmes has made several visits to zimov's station. >> holmes: the estimates of how much carbon is locked up in permafrost keep going up. and most of us were probably thinking about the upper meter. >> pelley: the upper three feet or so of soil. >> holmes: yeah, the upper three feet, that's right. if you go down much deeper than that, the carbon content is very low. but what's special about this area, where zimov is, the carbon content of the permafrost extends to a much greater depth. so, consequently, there's an awful lot of carbon that's locked up there. >> pelley: scientists estimate there is more greenhouse gas in permafrost than in all of the world's remaining oil, natural gas and coal. there's no consensus about how much of it could be released.
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how far below the surface are we right now? >> nikita zimov: right now, we are about ten meters. >> pelley: so, about 30 feet? >> nikita zimov: yeah, yeah, yeah. >> pelley: ten times deeper than originally thought, we found the remains of ice-age plants and microbes... >> nikita zimov: let's see if we can take some samples. >> pelley: ...with zimov's chief collaborator-- his son nikita. >> nikita zimov: it's a ticking carbon bomb, as it called. >> pelley: a carbon bomb? >> nikita zimov: yeah. >> pelley: nikita zimov grew up here with his father, and sensibly moved south for college, leaving behind the old man and the river. but nikita's plan to be a mathematician melted away when sergey asked his son to return, to see what he had seen. a few hours from the research station, there's a vast subsidence of permafrost-- sort of a rolling landslide, called duvanny yar. geology is a slow science, but here, it's almost a spectator
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sport. the bones of extinct woolly mammoths are thawing, after more than 12,000 years. the collapse of frozen earth is happening in much of the arctic, including alaska. 25% of the northern hemisphere is permafrost. the zimovs have a theory-- many would say a crazy idea-- for defusing the carbon bomb. they want to cool the permafrost by returning part of siberia to the ice age, or at least what it looked like in those days, known as the pleistocene era. if we were standing on this hill in the pleistocene era, what would we see? >> sergey zimov: not any trees. this looks like grasslands and savanna. and you will see around 1,000 of mammoths, around maybe 5,000 of bison.
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around maybe 10,000 of horses around this place. and also lions. >> pelley: lions? >> sergey zimov: yes. there was, main predator was lions here. >> pelley: sergey zimov told us, when man became the main predator, the woolly mammoth and other large grazers were hunted to extinction. forest replaced grasslands, and that made siberia vulnerable to a warming climate. because trees trap more heat than grass, and winter temperatures of 40 below can't freeze the permafrost if there are no herds of animals to trample the insulating snow. so, this is what you use instead of a mammoth. >> nikita zimov: yeah. >> pelley: as a demonstration project they call pleistocene park, nikita zimov is knocking down trees over 54 square miles and restocking the big grazers. the zimovs believe returning the land to its ice-age appearance will cool the permafrost, even
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in a warming world. you're trying to bring the animals back now. how can you do that? >> sergey zimov: physically, you mean? or morally? what's-- or financially? >> pelley: all three. but let's start with physically. you need, what? hundreds of thousands, millions of these animals? >> nikita zimov: you need to start with something. second, you need to prove people that the concept work. and to prove that concept work, you-- for many things, you don't need millions of animals. >> pelley: you brought up the moral issue of bringing the animals in here. what do you mean by that? i mean, some people say you're playing god. >> sergey zimov: you know, i think it's not me playing god. it was our ancestors who was playing god 15,000 years ago. humans came, and they dropped the number of animals worldwide. and we are just trying to, i don't know, get it back. >> pelley: this is where the zimovs' experiment gets crazier. what they need is the greatest tree crusher of the last 20,000 years, and they are surrounded
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with evidence of the once- abundant woolly mammoth. that's amazing. >> sergey zimov: it's young, young female. >> pelley: young, female mammoth? this weighs at least 20, 25 pounds. do you need the wooly mammoth to bring all of this back in the park? >> nikita zimov: it's like, do you need your right arm to live and do your job? no, you don't need it, but with your arm, you will do it better. so, same with mammoth. >> pelley: today, one place you might get a woolly mammoth is in boston, massachusetts-- specifically in the lab of harvard geneticist george church. sergey is hoping that you're going to deliver a mammoth to him. can you do that? >> george church: i think he's hoping that we will deliver an animal that is very similar to the ones that used to roam there. we need cold-resistant elephants. that's what he would like. >> pelley: church is another scientist who's made the trek to zimov's world. he returned to his renowned
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genetics lab with d.n.a. from mammoth bones. >> church: if you look at the 23 genomes of the elephants, there's lots of evidence of lots of interbreeding all over the place among the different so-called species. so, in a way, we're just recreating a hybrid that could easily have existed. >> pelley: when do you imagine you might be able to pull up a truck and deliver this creature to pleistocene park? >> church: i would say that probably in five years, we'll know whether we can get this to work for mice, and maybe pigs and elephants. and then if we can get embryos to grow in the laboratory ally s probably a decade. >> pelley: the zimovs have not convced everyone in climate science. critics say they lack long-term temperature records of the permafrost, and their work is restricted to a relatively small area. you know, to the untrained eye,
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someone could come away from a meeting with sergey thinking that he's a crackpot. >> holmes: yeah, that's right, i mean, he kind of plays the part. >> pelley: but as a climate scientist, how do you evaluate him? >> holmes: i think he's usually right. certainly, he has controversial ideas. and a lot of them, i think, end up being supported over time. >> pelley: what do you think of his concept of pleistocene park? >> holmes: fascinating theory. i'm fascinated by the science that can be done to figure out if it's correct. i'm glad he's pursuing this. we need to think about solutions. >> pelley: the zimovs have little funding for their big idea. the government donated the land, and their income flows from the rent that they charge visiting theirs is science on a shoestring, with a very long timeline. sergey, you've devoted your life to this, but i wonder why you thought it was important that
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nikita devote his life to this? >> sergey zimov: why it's important? hmm. our experiment, it's long-time experiment. decades. decades. >> pelley: it'll take decades? >> sergey zimov: yes. and it's also, we think about my grand-grandchildren. >> pelley: they have some intriguing results in the early days of pleistocene park. data show the permafrost is becoming colder where heat- trapping trees have been cut down. it's a little more weight on the genius side of the madman scale, and perhaps early evidence that resurrecting the future of the world may depend on burying siberia's past. new animals have arrived at the park since our story first aired in march. not mammoths, but a dozen bison from denmark. it took nikita zimov and his crew more than a month to bring them by land and river to their new home.
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long after the moments have passed. >> cooper: when a giant photograph of a child appeared looming over the u.s.-mexico border near san diego almost two years ago, art aficionados knew right away it was the work of an artist who calls himself jr. you may have never heard of jr, but his giant photographs have appeared in some 140 countries. sometimes in fancy art galleries, but more often than not, pasted illegally on sidewalks and subways,
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buildings, and rooftops. plenty of famous artists, like basquiat and keith haring, started out scrawling their work on the streets, often in the dead of night. but, as we first reported last year, few have continually displayed their art in public spaces on the scale of jr. this is the photograph that popped up in september 2017 along the u.s.-mexico border. a 64-foot-tall picture of a mexican child named kikito, who lives just on the other side of the fence. built on scaffolding on mexican soil, there was nothing u.s. border patrol agents could do about it. it was classic jr. a person's picture, pasted in a public place, that made everyone stop and stare. jr has been doing this kind of thing all over the world for the past 15 years. he put the faces of kenyans on rooftops in a nairobi slum. in cuba, where oversize images of castro and che are the norm,
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jr put up enormous pictures of everyday people. on new york sidewalks, and istanbul buildings, in tunisia during the arab spring in a looted police station, jr has pasted his pictures, often without permission, and at risk of being arrested. we met up with jr in a suburb of paris, in front of a giant mural he'd made out of photographs of more than 700 local residents. we don't know his real name, and that's just how jr wants it. in public, he never takes off his glasses or hat. there's a practical reason for it, but a little mystery also builds mystique in the world of art. what we do know is that jr is 36 years old, d waborn france, the child of tunisian immigrants. i don't think i've ever done an interview for "60 minutes" when i didn't actually know the name of the person i'm interviewing. ( laughs ) you're not going to tell me your name? >> jr: would it help, you know? i mean, in a lot of countries--
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>> cooper: it would help me. ( laughs ) >> jr: in countries where i got arrested, you know-- >> cooper: it's important for you to be anonymous? >> jr: yeah, because unfortunately, when i travel in lot of other countries where what i do, just paper and glue, is not considered as art, i get arrested, deported, put in jail-- >> cooper: what-- what's art in one country, is a jailable offence in another? >> jr: exactly. >> cooper: jr's been committing jailable offenses since he was a teenager. he says he was repeatedly kicked out of high school, and would sneak out at night with friends, spray-painting graffiti in hard- to-reach areas. graffiti, or tagging, what was the appeal of that? >> jr: we all have that sense of, "i want to exist. i want to, like, show that i'm here, that i'm present." >> cooper: graffitiing was saying, "i am here. i am a person." >> jr: exactly. "i'm here, i exist." >> cooper: his foray into photography began, he says, by accident. >> jr: i found a camera in the subway. a tiny camera. >> cooper: you really just found it? >> jr: yeah, no, it's true. and it's funny, because a lot of friends tease me, "yeah, right, you started your career, stealing a camera." >> cooper: i'm not sure the
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police would believe that story, but-- >> jr: i know, but, you know, i... >> cooper: some things are true? >> jr: ( laughs ) exactly. and at some point, i realized i was not the best in graffiti. ( laughs ) you know? i had the balls to climb any building you want, but i would not do the craziest piece. but i was with friends who were amazing. then i realize, "wait, let me document the journey." >> cooper: the journey of it? >> jr: yeah. so i went from "i exist" to "they exist," and i realized the power of that. >> cooper: once photography got into the picture, it was about, these other people exist? >> jr: exactly. >> cooper: they exist. >> jr: they exist. ( speaking french ) >> cooper: many of jr's friends in this paris suburb whom he began taking pictures of felt they didn't exist in the eyes of french society. most of those who live in this neighborhood are of african or arab descent, first or second generation immigrants, and few wealthy parisians ever venture here. in 2005, riots broke out in this neighborhood after two kids died while being chased by police. the violence spread across france. jr saw how the young people in
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this suburb were being portrayed on television, and decided to use his camera to tell a different story. >> jr: you would see the riots, everyone had hoodies. and then, so any kids coming from the suburb would look like a monster to you. so that's when i started photographing them from really close, and i said, "i'm going to put your name, your age, your building number on the poster, and i'm going to paste it in paris, where they see you as a monster. and actually, you going to play your own caricature." >> cooper: why play your own caricature? isn't that feeding a stereotype? >> jr: it's actually-- by feeding it, it breaks it, and i wanted them to be in control of their own image. >> cooper: and you wanted people in paris who maybe had never been to this neighborhood to understand, what? >> jr: the humanity. when you look at those faces, it makes you want to smile. by playing the monster, they don't look like monster anymore. >> cooper: jr enlarged the pictures and printed them out, and with friends, began pasting them up illegally at night around paris. most were immediately taken down, but the mayor of one parisian district gave jr permission to paste them on a wall outside a museum.
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it was jr's first official public art exhibit. he was 23 years old. >> jr: the people from paris would go in front of those pictures and take a photo of themselves with them. and people were trying to find who is who, and get a photo with them, where they're supposed to be the monsters that are about to invade paris. so it kind of break the tension that there was. >> cooper: the idea of breaking tension through photography was a revelation to jr. in 2007, with money saved from odd jobs, he decided to head to israel. ( shouting and gunfire ) it was after the second intifada, and his plan was to paste photographs on the wall separating palestinians and israelis in the west bank. oi ssedrking taxi driver, security guard, teacher, student. and then i would go and i would say, "look, i want to paste you playing your own caricature of how the other sees you, but i would paste you with the other taxi driver."
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"oh, yeah, sure. yeah, take my photo. but the other guy, he is never going to accept. they're c-- really close-minded. they're never going to accept." and when i go there, same thing. >> cooper: each person on each side said, "i'll do it, but the person on the other side won't do it." >> jr: exactly. >> cooper: before he could begin pasting the photographs, jr and his team were arrested by israeli authorities for not having a permit. they were loaded into the back of a wagon, and hauled off to jail. after some questioning, they were released and given 15 days to leave the country. instead, jr went to the palestinian side of the wall and began to paste. >> jr: i paste a giant photo of the taxi driver, and the second photo of the other taxi driver. and you know, a crowd of people very quickly, big crowds. and then the first guy asked the question-- "but, my friend, who is this people?" i say, "oh, one is israeli and one is palestinian." and then you have a big silence on the crowd. and i say, "so who is who?" and they couldn't even recognize their enemy or their brother.
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( singing "fraicheur de vivre" ) >> cooper: on the israeli side, to ensure he wouldn't be arrested again, jr announced the day and time he was going to put up his photographs. he says so many reporters and onlookers showed up to watch, the authorities decided to just let him go ahead with his project. the attention he got from his work in the middle east and france led to some sales of his photographs, which then allowed him to begin to travel further afield. over the next few years in kenya, liberia and sierra leone, he focused his lens on women-- heroes, he says, who are often treated as second-class citizens. he photographed women's faces, and placed them where they could no longer be ignored. a kenyan woman named elizabeth kamanga asked jr to paste her picture for all the world to see. >> jr: the woman ask me, "make my story travel." >> cooper: have my eyes, my story travel around the world. >> jr: they want someone that they never heard of to hear, like sending a bottle in the water.
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>> cooper: her story did travel, thousands of miles around the world. jr pasted her eyes onto a container ship called the "magellan" that spent months at sea. in 2008, he ventured into providencia, the oldest favela in rio, a slum perched on a hillside controlled by a well- armed gang of drug dealers. jr photographed an elderly woman whose grandson was murdered by a rival gang. she agreed to let him paste her image on the stairs leading into the neighborhood. did you have permission from angs, or... ? >> jr: no, from nobody. from nobody. we start pasting the stairs like that, great vibe, kids playing, you know. we're just pasting on the stairs. after ten stairs, huge, like, fights of gun. ( gunfire ) and like, it starts going from all over. ( imitates gunfire ) ( gunfire ) >> cooper: jr and his team were caught in crossfire between police and gang members. >> jr: we run and we hide, like it's the last day of my life.
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and the next day, we came back and we kept on doing the stairs. and i think that what made the people in the community realize that, okay, we're not just here for a minute. and, that first time, when that woman was pasted on the stairs, everybody in the community understand what the project was about. it was her, she was standing there, straight and looking strong. >> cooper: her photo covered 80 steps, and after that, other residents allowed jr to post their faces and eyes on the sides of their homes. a display of strength and dignity, he says, that could be seen from the wealthier neighborhood below. that word, dignity, to you is important. eaze it's important ineople made every single pasting. >> cooper: dignity is something that all of us want-- >> jr: all of us, anywhere. >> cooper: --no matter what, an. pe why? because the issues people are >> jr: yeah, of course. dignity goes through the way we're being seen by the others, the way we portrayed ourself. >> cooper: i think some people
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hearing that are going to say, "look, you're telling me that people, you know, who don't know where their next meal is coming from, are struggling to survive, care about art?" >> jr: you know what? yes. >> cooper: if you are wondering how jr pays for all these projects, so were we. ( speaking french ) he now has a team of about 16 people working for him, out of studios in paris and new york. he doesn't like to give details of how much his projects cost, but some of the money comes from the sale of limited edition prints of his work. he doesn't accept any sponsorship from corporations, but he does have wealthy art patrons who help him out. >> jr: there is amazing people out there. there is people that support me. there's someone that gave me a building to put my studio that i don't pay rent, so i don't have to look for sponsors. there are amazing people that i call the shadow philanthropists, the people who really want to change-- >> cooper: shadow philanthropists? >> jr: yeah. and that don't look for return. they don't get into philanthropy to get more credit. >> cooper: jr's work may focus
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on other people, but it's also made him a celebrity in his own right. he has more than a million followers on instagram, and routinely is seen in the company of rock stars and other artists. a documentary jr directed, called "faces places," was nominated for an oscar. >> jr: can you pass me up the glue? >> cooper: fame has its benefits. jr doesn't always have to sneak around now. he is often allowed to display his work. so when were you doing the work inside? two years ago on ellis island in new york harbor, the national park service let him paste old photographs of immigrants at this abandoned hospital. >> jr: that's the little girl. >> cooper: and what does it mean? >> jr: you know, i just try to do art in places that it would raise questions, rather to give answers. >> cooper: jr is now encouraging others to raise questions by pasting their own photographs. he has a website where groups of people with an idea or a cause can send in their pictures. he says he'll enlarge and print
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them, and ship them back. jr-inspired images have so far been pasted on walls in dozens of countries around the world. are you still an artist, if you're not taking the photo, and you're just printing stuff up and sending it out to people, and they're putting it up? >> jq@% ( laughs ) i mean, i am. as i'm as much as a printer, then i'm a photographer, then i'm a wallpaper man. you know, that's what i do-- >> cooper: you're a wallpaper man? >> jr: at the end of the day, i-- i wallpaper buildings. you know? that's what i do. so that's why i think the title, "artist," is the most prestigious title i'll ever get, because, you know, the truth is, i paste buildings. >> cooper: jr's latest project, "chronicles of san francisco," opened in may in that city's museum of modern art. the digital mural is jr's first exhibit in a major american museum. ( ticking ) >> jr's hidden message on ellis island. >> did anyone notice? >> i don't think so. ( laughs ) >> www.60minutesovertime.com.
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