captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: it's sunday july 21st. i'm margaret brennan and this is "face the nation." as two hundred million americans try to beat record heat this weekend emotions maybe hottest in washington. as the feud (president trump and the four democrats known as the squad gets even more devoicive. president: they call the people of our country and our country garbage. we are dealing with people who hate our country. >> we are going to continue to be a nightmare to this president. his policies are a nightmare to us. we are not deterred. >> brennan: the president's racist tweets have mobilized both sides.

and mr. trumps refuse al to cr people,ncbly when a congress woman says i will be the president's nightmare. she is lucky to be where she is. let me tell you. >> brennan: how and will the two parties make a effort to cool things now. our major garrett sat down with vice president mike pence. >> i think millions of americans share the president aesz frustration of sitting members of congress engaging in that reckless rhetoric. the president thought it was important to stand up to them. i am glad he did it. >> brennan: we will talk with wyoming congress woman liz cheney. and 2020 democratic contender cory -- and we see a shift in the field of 25.

house intelligence committee chairman reviews mueller's testimony this week. that and mor >> brennan: good morning, welcome to "face the nation. president trump doubled down on his attacks on four democratic members of congress. he says "they are not capable of loving our country. yesterday major garrett asked vice president pence about the "send her back" chants from the president's supporters. >> were the chants appropriate. >> send her back. >> if you're unhappy with them do you want to see them repeated. is this part and parcel of the to 20 echo of the trump campaign. it's a simple question? >> no, major. the president was not pleased

about it. neither wasr the president has been clear about that. we're also not pleased about the fact that there are four members of congress -- >> you know the president's relationship with his supporters are as close as anyone has had in american politics. this could go away with a simple word or phrase. you have a chance to say it now. don't do it again, is that your message. >> the president was clear. >> was he. >> he wasn't happy about it. if it happens again he might, he would make a effort to speak out about it. >> he will make a effort to speak out about it. >> that's what he has already said. >> okay. >> i think millions of americans share the president's frustration of city members of congress engaging in that reckless rhetoric. whether it's anti-sep anti-semir against border patrol. i am glad the president stood

up. >> can you be patriotic and oppose the president's reelection. >> what they're doing, referring to the country as garbage. >>ñi it's unpatriotic. >> it's unacceptable. >> it's unpatriotic. >> president trump will stand up for america and call out that rhetoric by the members. it's time the democrats in congress did the same. >> saying that they can stay. >> of course they can stay. they're american citizens. but they, they're speaking their mind. they're speaking their mind, and this president has... i think the president has spoken for millions of americans who cherish our lawmaker community, who cherish support for israel, who reject anti-semitism, and every american on the left, right, center, republican, democrat, independent who in their heart of hearts would never say the kinds of things about this country that these members of congress are saying on a regular basis. >> brennan: major's full interview with the vice president will be available

tuesday on the take-out podcast. joining us now is the number-three republican in the house, wyoming's liz cheney. good morning to you. >> good morning, margaret. >> brennan: you heard the vice president say next time the president might say something. why doesn't the president as as americaninciple as anyone else? why doesn't he put this to rest? >> i think you've heard him say the chant was inappropriate. we've all said the chant was inappropriate. >> brennan: he said they were patriotic, very patriotic. >> i think the news media wants to make this about race. you just did it. it's not about race. it's not about gender. it's not about religion. these members of the house of representatives, more, it's not just these four, it's also some of the candidates running for president on the democratic side, fundamentally believe in policies that are dangerous for this nation. and as republicans, we are going the fight against those, even if the mainstream media accuses us of racism.

send her back is absolutely wrong. it should not have happened. we have all said it shouldn't have happened. >> brennan: when the president says "go back"... >> i would like to see the media as focused on the substance of what this wing of the democratic party is advocating, because that is really dangerous for our country. >> brennan: you understand what the president tweeted about this this morning, right before we went to air. so the president is -- >> the president this morning, before we came on air, talked about the extent to which they love this nation. i think if you go back and look at many of the things you said, you saw the vice president say soft of that this morning, as well, talking about the nation as garbage, for example, but i would, you know, again reiterate this and these issues that we're talking about are fundamental to the future of this country. when you have mention of congress who are as anti-semitic as ilhan omar has been, when you have members of congress who are advocating this t complete elimination of the use of all fossil fuels, all air travel, the elimination of private

insurance, the imposition of socialism on this country, we're not going to stand for that. we're not going to stand for policies that take freedom away from the american people. that's what this fight is about. >> brennan: but what you're talking about are policy differences. that's not what the president was tweeting about this morning. when he said i don't believe the four congresswomen are capable of loving our country, i know you disagree with policies and politics, you just made that clear, but there have been death threats against congresswoman ilhan omar. in april there was an arrest because someone called her office and said, after she because a member of congress -- >> are you going to let me answer the question? >> brennan: i'm asking the question. >> i got the question. this is a moment where we have to be for clear. and it's really important for us to focus on -- and i know you guys don't want to. you don't want to focus on fact there are substantive differencings. >> brennan: but -- >> i let you answer the question. >> brennan: but that's not what the president is talking about.

>> every single day he talks about policy. >> brennan: people who are loving our country? >> every day this president talks about the tremendous economic grot we have se sin >> brennan: >> capable of loving our country has nothing to do with jobs. >> margaret, you are making my point. you are making my point for me right now. we are -- >> brennan: do you agree with the president or disagree, because i'm not clear? >> the president has absolutely said they should not have chanted "send her back." our concern and our opposition to what these women are saying, and many other members of the democratic party in the house of representatives, has to do with the fact they're advocating policies that will destroy this nation, and we will fight against it, and i think the news media, you included, ought to cover the substance. i think it is outrageous for you to say the president doesn't talk about substance. every single day, you can look at the evidence, you look at the fact that this nation isy eve been. you can look at what the president's policies have done on economic growth, but you don't want to talk about, that so i do think -- tt.

>> y have every opportunity every single day. >> brennan: the president this morning tweeted they don't love their country. >> brennan: you've made that point, margaret. >> brennan: the rest of the world is also watching. >> that's right. >> brennan: canada's prime minister said the comments plead were hurtful, wrong, completely unacceptable. germany's chancellor said these sentiments are in opposition to her impressions about the u.s., and she expressed solidarity in her words with the attacked women. the prime minister of the u.k. issued a statement condemning this, of new zealand. these are not members of the media. these are world leaders. should americans find the comments from the president acceptable? >> margaret, listen, i know you want to continue to talk about this as though it has to do with race. i know you want to talk about -- >> brennan: you think all those world leaders -- >> i don't think the american people are going to look to foreign leaders to tell white house should lead the nation. they're not going to look to foreign leaders to tell uson. whether or not we should be a socialist country. thank goodness we won't do that. we depend upon those people who are elected.

when you see the democratic members of congress standing up and saying that they want to -- that we have concentration camps on our borders, that think want to provide free health care for illegal immigrants, that they want to impose socialism on this country, they need to defend those policy position, and we'll take every they need to defend those policy moves. we need to defend the american people recognizing the fund mental choice we are all facing. >> i want to get you on a ran. you want to point out this are two black elected republicans who said this is racially insensitive. >> margaret we have -- >> excuse me, listen you continue to put these little points every time you do it you make the point i'm making. as republicans we're focused on substance and policy. we will do that no matter what . >> unfortunately we don't have

time to talk about iran. >> you should of asked earlier. >> if the president tweets about it we will. >> he has tweeted about iran quite a bit. it would be good to cover it all. >> i would love to. thank you. we have to go to adam schiff who has standing by from burbank this morning. congressman, thank you forgetting up early. you heard congress woman cheney there. when it comes to the issues she says are about policy not about race or politics. is that how you hear the comments from the president this morning? >> no, absolutely not. i think tragically the president has decided that racism is good politics. racism is a good political strategy. there is a reasonlp he keeps returning to attack these women of color and the rhetoric he uses. the crowd's ugly racist chant didn't materialize out of nothing. it came from the president's own tweet andú

this wasn't one off either this. is the same president who said this were good people on both sides of the neo nazi rally. this is who he is. he thinks it's a winning political strategy. god0lelp us if it is. i think it's a losing strategy. i think we will see whether a colossal losing strategy it is. we will push back when he engages in this rhetoric. >> do democrats need to push back more as in their own party though. there are members of it. four who he's focusing on. whose language he has characterized as reckless and anti-semantic. do democrats need to do more to be more careful about their own nguage >> i don't think there is an equivalence here. we're not inciting crowds to chant "send them back" this. is coming from the president.

we have a big diverse caucus. they're reflective of the country. that is not in anywayy give owe lent to the racist rhetoric from the white house. lock i fully expect our members will be aggressive out there. we have strong disagreements with this president. we are focused on the disagreements when it comes to good paying jobs to people. issues like minimum wage, saving access to healthcare while he wants to demonize four women of color. it was a tragedy last week. we celebrated the 50th anniversary of a great achievement in american history, the history of humankind. the landing on the moon. we see one of the most tawdry moments in our history with the president engaging in this behavior. >> i want to ask you. you this week will have a chance to ask questions of robertôei

answers questions about the 400-page report he turned in. he says he won't go beyond the 400 pages. what is the purpose, what do you think you will learn? >> since most of -- in their busy lives haven't read the report t-fpltz a dry prosecutorial work product we want bob mueller to bring it to life. talk about the report, it's a pretty damning set of facts. welcoming health from a hostile foreign power, not reporting it but eagerly embracing it, building it into the campaign strategy, lying about it to cover up, obstructing and covering up. that's a pretty damaging set of facts most american people are not familiar with. the president keeps trying to desaoefrb them about the facts. who better to bring them to life then the man who did the investigation himself. we want the people to hear it

from him. not bill bar but the man who did the work himself. >> brennan: last year on this program you said there was a very real prospect on the day president trump leaves office he would be indicted. the justice department you said would do that. this week the u.s. attorneys office in new york con clouded their investigation into campaign finance. there were no charges there related to him. does thisvxu)ove your predictios wrong that the case is closed. >> no, not at all. it's been clear from bob mueller that he felt and the justice department feels bound by the office of legal council opinion you can't indict a sitting president. he is a essentially unindieted co conspirator. he has been directed as the director of michael cohen for this fraudulent scheme. i believe this means the case

will be reopened when he leaves office assuming the statute of limitations has not run. the justice department will have to weight indicting the former president. in my point of view he should be indicted. it's the view of the justice department in that indictment that donald trump coordinated the legal scheme. he's not above the law. he may have a temporary reprieve while in office. i think the justice department will have to consider reopening the case when he leaves office. >> brennan: you alleged this week that the attorney general bill barr intervened to stop the investigation. do you have evidence to support this? >> i didn't allege he did that. i said congress will have to find out if there was intervention by bill barr to

bring about a political closure of the case. now i don't know that's the case. one of the concerns that i have had is when bill barr testified in the senate that he believes the president could of made the mueller investigation go away anytime if he thought it was unfair. it's logical to conclude the president can make any other case go away if he deems unfair. that's not our understanding or anyone'anyone's understand of t. >> brennan: congressman, thank you, very much. we will be back in a minute with senator cory booker. putting your business on the map, connecting with customers, and getting the skills to use new tools. so, in case you're looking, we've put all the ways we can help in one place. free training, tools, and small business resources

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wallace. you said his words were a disgusting display of racism and bigotry. are you accusing the president of being a racist. >> i accuse him of being worst than that. he's using race like a weapon to divide our country among"n itse. he has used it to accelerate his gaining of political power. the language he uses is language that has been usedq(p< our country's history from no nothings fighting against german immigrants. literally some ofe/+! language. two, some of the same tactics of george wallace for political power. calling his opponents communists and the like this. is yet another sad chapter. what we have done as americans, black and white, from different backgrounds we join and beaten those hate and fear mongers. i think donald trump wile

relegated this. is a referendum not on just donald trump but who we will be and who we are to each other i believe we will reject this politics. >> brennan: to that point do you think there is merit to the argument that democrats need to police their own ranks. some of these progressive democrats in the house have been reckless with their language? >> i mean if you're talk about the politics within our party that's a lot different then someone who literally is calling for people, american citizens to go home. which is something that has been used as a racist play. there is no equivalence what so ever. i don't care who says it. people who preach race schism bigotry for their own political power try to slice and divide the country. that is different on a moral plane than any inter dynamics of

a political party this. is all of us. i hear this from republican friends. this is awful. we need to reject this and move beyond this as a country. >> brennan: the president has described this strategy by forcing democrats, like yourself to, embrace people on the more liberal side of the party that has said things he has criticized as anti-israel, sometimes anti-is he met anti-. is this working for the president. >> i will defend anyone, republican or democrat who is attacked because of the color of ethnicity. that's who i am. racism is racism. to say nothing in the face of it is could b not right. i care about my name. this is not who we are. i'm literally sitting here as a

united states senator because democrats and republicans stood up in the 60s and fought for my family's housing rights and equal rights this. is the greatness of our country. we have a moral obligation. forget politics -- >> brennan: this is playing out in the democrat debate stage. havcertainly and you senator has have been critical of joe biden. this also seems to be a fault line that can be useful for democrats as well. do you think that needs to change. is that the strategy for the next debate. are you getting more aggressive on that front. >> i'm running for president, not to use race as a strategy. i'm running for president because we have more african americans for example under criminal supervision then all of the slaves of 1850. these are racial realities we have to deal with not because we're black and white because we're americans.

we swear oaths, libertiery and justice for all. i know we talk about this in a political lens. we can all agree, in this country, it's wrong. there is no use for blitz using and dealing drugs. blacks are almost four times more likely to be arrested for. that it's fair. the 1994 crime bill putting mass incarcerations on steroids. literally i worked to pass a bill through a divided congress to reverse things done in that 1994 crime bill. yes i want people like joe biden to stand up and say i was wrong. which he has done. that billb this is not politics, it'sbo our cre. imerica. right now we are in a difficult period. you see violent racial attacks on a 9-11. the majority of the terrorist attacks have been on right extremists. white supremacist attacks.

now we have a president using language of white supremacist to justify their bigotry of hatred. there are moral issues going on it's not a left and right divide. yet again it's another chapter. this is a moment in america a moral moment we have to decide who we will be. will we confront the institutional racism and racism spewed from one of the most sacred offices in all of our land. the presidency of the united bresenatoker, thank yorni us. we will be right back. ñiñu d

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>> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation owe. we have new polling on the 2020 campaign. first we want to take a look at some results sur vying americans about the president's tweets. four house democrats "go back" to the countries from which they came. joining us now are ed o'keefe and cbs news elections and surveys director anthony salvanto. good to have you both here. expe dominating a week worth of news headlines. what were voters telling you? >> top line level you could see what you may of expected

partisan splits on this. majority said they disliked the tweets. disliked what the president said. democrats especially called the tweets racist and unamerican. republicans said the media made too much of it. they thought the tweets were not racist. they thought the tweets were pro-american. you can see some of the political wheels starting to turn too. the four democraticñixd congress woman referenced in the tweets are better known and unpopular among republicans then amongñ/ãç country at large. >> brennan: that's interesting. >> you see maybe the president trying to rile up the base. if you pull back and look at the context too. in the americans told u they feel the country is divide ad hong raeurl front. the parties they think are ngcaote voters.de as in this.

the split starts to define what we're headed into in the 2020 election and people say they feel the parties each represent different views of what it means to be american. that's kind of a context going forward. >> brennan: ed, is this the rhetoric we will hear through the campaign? do we still ourselves. >> could be. what presents a challenge for democrats, who clearly want to talk about other issues. they understand that's how the party won congressional control last year. acknowledging the president. this is aeek, it they ign n ampfying hiscohe out untry.throug the weekrdidat talt he.esty presidenfor whatin remind voters there maybe other

motives behind this. repeatedly it was said he's doing this to distract you. he's tkhog to change the subject and keep the focus on him instead of the issues we want to talk to you about. healthcare, social security, the economy. as a point of that, it's one i think democrats will continue to make. >> brennan: okay. let's get to where the race stands now. cbs battle ground tracker focuses on the 18 early democratic calk us and. including iowa and including super tuesday. in the aggrega weee three distinct tiers. joe biden leading the field with 25% of voter support.=)ñ elizabeth warren has 20%. behind her is senator harris 16%. bernie sanders roun top tier with 15%. our second tier --

in the third tier are the rest of the candidates who are getting 1% of support in those first eight contests. anthony, people are overwhelmed by the number of candidates. what do the tiers tell us. >> well the way that you define tiers in my mind, áwá look at the candidates in position to get delegates. ultimately that's what this is about. they're trying to windle gates for the national convention next summer. you have to get at least 15% in a state to get delegates. that's where you see the top tier defined. the candidates in position to get delegates across the early states. one of the things that has changed since last month when we talked to voters is joe biden still leads. it's a tighter race now particularly in the other states in iowa and new hampshire. i describe it as fluid in the top tier.

people company all candidates even if the top choice is biden. >> brennan: and besides delegates and support it's money. >> it is. our top tier reflects the fund raising. with exception of pete the top money raise they are past quarter still in the mix. the important thing to keep in mind. first tier and second tier all got at least 2%. natters because it qualifies them for the september debate. you have to have four poles showing you at 2%. >> brennan: what do we see in terms of candidates defining themself. >> start with this. the top issue for democrats is healthcare. if there were three issues it would be heath care, healthcare, healthcare. there is a split on the party. joe biden does better for democrats skrept cal for a medicare of all plan or if this

is one it should compete with private insurance. the more progressive candidates all do a little uáer with voters who say either replace private insurance or a certificate absolutely go with medicare forñi all. think the healthcare issue is defining a split there for the candidates. yes it's ideological front as well. moderates where biden is better. more progressive and liberal voters do better thafpltz where you see the split. >> brennan: but it's cost not the type of coverage. >> exactly that's a defining aspect of the debate going forward. especially for the debates next week. it's telling to hear someone say like joe biden, i will fight anyone who wants to tear apart obamacare. a signal harris and warren. you want to fight for medicare i will fightñrímu you. >> brennan: on the word fight

you saw something interesting with perceptions of strength, anthony. >> yes we asked what candidate is the most strong. camilla harris came out on top. we asked who would fight for people like you. elizabeth sanders did better than joe biden. you see a difference in what voters perceive as passion and enthusiasm. you start to see that among people who are active on twitter and social media. that is more engaged part, liberal part of the base. that is perhaps expected, it's still an early stage. you see splits there with widen doing better with the mod. >> b: anthon skped, thank you very much. you can see the results of our battleground tracker including state specific polling on our website at cb snews.com.

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it? >> i think he believes it a political strategy. you see in terms of the degree to how he consolidates republican support. few republicans came out and took issue with the president's remarks. he consolidates the base and going forward the question for the president is how does he drive up the support among his base. potentially expanding his base not to independent voters or suburban women but the kind of people that would sort of enjoy the appeal, the blatant appeal to race the president is engaging in. it's about the 2020 election and expanding the base. >> race is front and center for 2020. jamel lurks e, the democratic candidates mader and center as well. the attacks on joe biden a

record. is it dangerous to use this as a political tool? >> i think it's important toçoi distinguish the democratic stage and what the president is doing. the democratic stage, think that was an attempt to reckon withxdi the party's history and joe biden to win back certain voters. the non college white workers by try ang aou lating onftrianqulae party relies on african americans, latinos and asian americans. summing up the urban energize of the to 16 campaign to drive up the president's base. i think it's important to say those kind of remarks are very unpopular with the public at large. the president saw his approval

drop to close to an all time low after charlottesville. the remarks about football players neiling was not popular. the republican candidate ed gillespie suffered at the poles for leaning into th the attacks. the president may believe it's effective. the evidence on display is it's not that affective for him. >> brennan: it energizes people. you saw republicans say they're not totally comfortable. >> put trump ap side. look at your congressional republicans. liz cheney may not want to admit it but they have a problem here and they're talking about it privately. it's one thing, republicans agree and democrats say they have a strategy to single out the four women and talk about their policies and supporting

socialism and socialistic agendas to some port. independent voters don't like it. they can use that to their advantage as republicans. trump up ended this by making it about race. "send her back." that republicans knew that changed everything. they didn't come out and awe say trump you can't tweet like this they confronted pence a few days ago, liz cheney was there, you have to tell the president this is not good for us. it will hurt us. pence relayd that to the president. he tried to put space between himself and the chant that came out "send her back." we know the president he returns to his gut instinct even when people try to pull him back from what he wants to do. how long will he try to+ himself from that, is the question and will he do it again. >> brennan: this morning the

president's tweet was, these individuals are incapable of loving this country. paula, how is the white house handling this. >> i don't think anyone has a true incentive to tam -p this down. both sides get the foil they want ahead of to 20. there are republicans in vulnerable districts who don't want to be in a position to tam -pñtamtthis down. family member % went to them and said distance yourself. what did he do by doing that, he kept it in the nei=ñ squall. he kept it in the news psych and dialogue. to your point it doesn't appear the white house in the long term will likely change their strategy. i don't expect to see the president tell his crowds to knock it off with the chanting. >> i want to ask about the squad of the four freshman house democrats.

normally someone new to washington wouldn't get so much attention from the most powerful man in the city. the words they hay used. alexandria ocasio-cortez referring to border patrol detention centers as concentration camps. republicans say that's disrespectful to jews murdered inxdf ayanna pressley is being called a racist. she said when speaking abouts7 elected representatives, we don't need anymore brown face that's don't want to be a brown voice, we don't need black voices that don't want to be a black black voice. what is happening here? you know republicans call that racist. from an thopy's polling people only hear this through political filter. do democrats really have a problem. >> as far as how voters hear it i think part of the larger issue here is politics are so partisan

and so divided along partisan lions it's difficult to, for a lot of people to understand things in any sort of context other than the mediate partisan battle. in that sense representative pressley's marks get traction that could be a problem. nobody hears it in the context i hear it there is an old proverb, not all skin folk are kin folk. not everyone who looks like you has your interest in mind this. is a common thing. common sentiment within the plaque communities. that is what i hear from pressley. it doesn't strike my ears in a racist way. in terms of the broader political context that pops up and what happens and what is happening. she is talking about race. she is talking about what people ought toelieve why is she not kritized like donald trump. this are broad, very different,

broad bh figures. that's hard to look at in the narrow world of politics. >> this is a were frustrated with trump's tweets. if you let the democrats have their in- fighting. you mentioned the pressley quote specifically that could of dominated coverage on capitol hill for at least a week. trump instead has tweeted uniting the democratic party. this fighting on capitol hill causing problems for nancy pelosi. that was put in the>'ó back gro. the democrats have a issue. these four are defining what people are reading in the news around the country. pelosi wants the focus on healthcare. she doesn't want to talk about medicare for all or socialism. that's not good for democrats. again trump changed the narrative. >> i think that's the

fundamental problem.moats have . when you have a party out of power from the white house. the question is definitional who speaks for the democratic party. it's not nancy pelosi. it's not the presidential candidates you would think in a presidential cycle. they are doing their thing. the polling renexts that the messaging and the policy dialogue is being dominated by the four people who are vastly unrepresented by the voters that need to win. they have a problem in my mind in the disconnect of who is speaking for the democratic party now and how americans see democrats and what they need to win the next presidential election. >> brennan: we will take a break here. i want to talk about congress will get done on the other side of this summer break. we wil will be back in a few moments.

>> brennan: we're back now with our political panel. this week in washington must-see-tv. the two year uninvestigation

lead by robert mueller into russian election meddling in 2016. he will be forced in many ways to answer questions. this isn't an a parpbs he wanted to make. what do democrats think they will hear from him. >> it's interesting for schiff saying he wants him to bring the mueller report to life. i'm not sure what that amounts to. those thinking this is sizzling or entertaining or reveal something new, sadly mistaken this. is a reluctant witness. mueller isn't into us, the media. he engaged in two instances during the investigation. he made it clear, i hope this is the last time i have to talk about this. in the course of the several hours he will answer questions he is likely to stick to his report, not wanting to go beyond the confines of the report. one area democrats could potentially make progress is on

attorney general william barrto clarify diskrep septembery. it's not in the report itself. it all happened before barr testified. he was not sure if mueller agreed with the conclusions. mueller sent him a letter, called him. i think there is a opportunity to under mine the attorney general. republicans have the issue to address the ore tkpeupbz of the investigation. they don't have to have mueller say anything. just rereading the text message- >> brennan: from the fbi to refresh peoples memories. >> yes. >> reporter: rachel, the house judiciary chairman was on television saying there is evidence of high crimes and miss demeanors talking about what he expects from mueller. those are clear words what he has inçó line. is this about laying ground work for impeachment.

is a division what democratsis. want. nancy pelosi against impeaching the president hopes mueller lays out the obstruction of justice. people see that and it will hurt trump's poll numbers. only about 3% of americans read the reports. now people like jerry nadler he hasn't come outváyj for impeachment. privately he's pushing the leadership to start. 90 other democrats calling for impeachment want this to be a water shed moment to see the number of those supporting impeachment growing and coming around to their side of thinking there. is a lot of skepticism that will happen. the fact that jerry nadler is going on tv saying he thinks mueller will lay out high crimes shows nadler is getting closer

to the point. >> brennan: could this backfire, jamel lurks e. >> i don't know. it's unclear, we're in unchartered territory. the last impeachment controversial trial in the the 0s was a different political context, a much more popular president. a growing economy the president got credit for. that impeachment then hurt the opposition party. here the prep&t

-- some suggest the president is there too and may go this in a second term. others say forget fiscal&i uj nobody cares about it anymore. don't worry t the divisis are real.

clearly it's to the benefit of the president to keep the situation put off until after the election this. is huge incentive to get a deal done. >> brennan: alright. thanks to all of you. we will be right back. of savings and service.

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