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refinery outside of houston injured 37 people. >> an incredible boom. i said exxon just blew up. on wall street, stocks fell, despite the federal reserve cutting interest rates for the first time since 2008. investigators in pennsylvania are looking into a massive explosion that leveled a home. >> debris flying everywhere. all that. >> a wave pool malfunctioning at a water park in china, creating a giant tsunami-like wave. and all that matters. >> the first thing that i'm going to do when i'm president is i'm going to clorox the oval office. >> brought to you by clorox, the commander in bleach. >> "cbs this morning." >> a lot of people watching the debates want to hear about taxes this kid named donnie got an early lesson from monopoly. >> where is all your money going, donnie? >> taxes. >> it's okay. it's part of the game. >> no, it's not.

it's not fun. >> it's not fun to what? >> it's the worst part of the game. >> is what? >> taxes. this morning's eye opener is presented by toyota. let's go places. >> the kid is not wrong. >> he's right. it is the worst part of the game of life. >> april 15th every year as well. >> i know but you have to pay for our infrastructure. >> yes, you're right. >> the best country in the world. isn't that what we say? >> okay. welcome to "cbs this morning." i'm tony dokoupil with anthony mason. gayle king is off. michelle miller is here. string of attacks on front-runner joe biden. the former vice president had to repeatedly defend his record on everything from health care, immigration, to criminal justice. >> following a debate in june when kamala harris gained ground by attacking biden.

ed o'keefe is in detroit where he covered last night's face-off. how did biden respond this time? >> reporter: well, anthony, it was a stronger defense of his record than last month but it was, by no means, smooth. at the beginning of the night, joe biden shook hands with kamala harris and was heard to say, go easy on me, kid. but nobody on stage did. >> mr. vice president, you want to be president of the united states, you need to be able to answer the tough questions. >> the house was set on fire and you claimed responsibility for those laws. >> reporter: for the second time, former vice president joe biden found himself under fire from the rest of the democratic field. >> if you cross the border illegally, you should be able to be sent back. it's a crime. >> it look like one of us has learned the lessons of the past and wuven us hasn't. >> reporter: this time, biden saw it coming. >> this idea is a bunch of malarkey. >> reporter: and took on senator kamala harris on health care. >> the senator has had several plans so far. any time someone tells you

you're going to get something good in ten years, you should wonder why it takes ten years. there's no talk about in ten years the plan will cost you $1 trillion. >> the reality is that our plan will bring health care to all americans for medicare for all system. under your plan, status quo, you do nothing to hold the insurance companies to task. >> i have the only plan that limits the ability of insurance companies that charge reasonable prices. >> harris herself became a bigger target, forced to defend her past record as california's attorney general. >> she laughed about it when asked if she ever smoked marijuana after putting hundreds in jail for it. >> i did the work that became the national model for the work that needs to be done and i am proud of that work. >> reporter: it was biden's long record that got the most attention, even when he tried to

pivot. >> why did you announce the first day a zero tolerance policy of stop and frisk and hired rudy giuliani's guy in 2007 when i was trying to get rid of the crack cocaine? >> mr. vice president, you're dipping in the kool-aid and you don't even know the flavor. you need to come to the city of newark and see the reforms that we put in place. you are trying to shift the view from what you created. >> reporter: biden tried to turn the attacks back toward president trump. >> eight more years of donald trump will change america in a fundamental way. the america we know will no longer exist. >> reporter: so, when democrats meet again in september, we expect to see fewer candidates on stage because of stricter qualification rules. by then, candidate will have had to have found donations from at least 130,000 people from across the country and be earning at least 2% in at least four polls. so far, only seven of the two

dozen candidates have qualified. they've got until the end of august to make it. anthony? >> one month, ed. thank you. chief washington correspondent major garret is here for more on last night's debate and the next one ahead. major, as ed pointed out, it looked like biden did better last night but not entirely smooth. what does his camp think? >> last night he came in as a plane losing altitude and air speed. not a good thing in politics or avianics but two of the four engines kicked in, like a dramatic movie. he stabilized. >> if i was on the plane i would still be nervous. >> that's right. you would still be nervous f you're a biden supporter, you're like, okay, we stabilized but not a ringing performance. at a macro level he said all right, i stabilized. on his history and his vision for the future, he has a lot of work to do. cory booker and kamala harris were attacking on lanes that are important to them in south

carolina, predominantly. african-american voters currently are preferring joe biden over the two of them. that's why you saw such intense concentration and vernacular along those lines, the kool-aid line. a good night for '70s popular household brands, clorox and kool-aid. >> that's good. >> cory booker, who delivered that great line, never really delivered an answer to the question. so, he needed to sort of prop up his sales in this debate. did he? >> sure. it was a nice deflection. it was very well crafted. cory booker has a newark story. there are things that happened on his watch that are very positive in terms of new investment and new businesses, and some jobs, but crime and criminal justice is not a strong suit of his time as mayor of newark. and joe biden has his long history. now he could say in the 1990s when this legislation was passed we had a serious crime problem in this country. were there unintended consequences?

yes, there were. i learned from them. what i'm surprised by joe biden on this issue hasn't said look, go back to statistics. it was bipartisan. it was a huge issue. he doesn't seem that comfortable with the basic part of his legislation history. that's why he has two engines, not four. >> kamala harris' record came under fire also last night. >> sure. >> did she lose ground? >> she figured out last night what it means to be something that is an it. >> she's a player. >> you're a player now and your record is up for scrutiny. you can get harsh attacks. whoa, wait a minute, where did that come from? that's part of this process. for the very same community, african-american community, her record as a prosecutor, attorney general in california, is part of the scrutiny. she was less comfortable there for someone who did so well in the first debate as a prosecutor, was less comfortable being a defense witness. >> only seven people have qualified for the next debate, as ed o'keefe has pointed out. >> you'll see a larger -- i

think a lot of people will fall out. jay inslee, andrew yang, michael bennet did themselves some good, kirsten gillibrand did herself some good. i think those people will get into the next debate, not so much from the first night. hundreds of feet of flames into the sky southwest of lexington. witnesses say it was visible for miles. it destroyed several homes. lincoln county coroner confirms at least one death. five other people were taken to the hospital. residents who live within a mile rays radius were evacuated. emergency officials say it was caused by a ruptured gas line. cause of an explosion at a hugh houston area refinery that injured 37 people is under investigation this morning, the blast triggered a fire at the

exxonmobil plant in baytown yesterday. huge plumes of black smoke stretched into the sky and many hurt suffered burns. people living nearby were told to shelter in place for hours. this is a series of incidents at petro facilities alone. cbs news has been told that obl's son has been killed in a military operation. hamza bin laden was killed. david martin, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the facts that surround the operation remain murky. it's not clear when and where it happened although he was thought to be operating somewhere along the border between afghanistan and pakistan. officials say u.s. intelligence recently monitored conversations among members of al qaeda, debating whether or not to keep hamza's death a secret or acknowledge it and celebrate him

as a martyr. u.s. officials believe he was killed in a strike even though he was not the target. with his father's name and charisma, hamza represented the future of al qaeda, even though ayman al zawahiri, bin laden's long-time deputy, has led al qaeda since the 2011 raid which killed its leader. >> the united states conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda. >> reporter: letters captured in the 2011 raid indicated that bin laden was grooming hamza to be the next leader. >> zawahiri didn't measure up to bin laden. there's not another hamza behind him. >> reporter: fran townsend was george w. bush's counterterrorism adviser. >> you take out somebody like that at the top of an organization and an organization is going to flounder for leadership. >> reporter: as recently as last february, the u.s. believes hamza was alive and offered a $1 million reward for information

leading to his capture or death. al qaeda tried to protect hamza's identity by not releasing pictures of him as an adult. the video of his wedding was released by the cia after it was captured in the raid, which killed his father. president trump brushed aside questions about hamza's killing wednesday. >> i don't want to comment on it. >> reporter: without hamza, al qaeda is an aging organization. a recent pentagon report said it poses a very limited threat to the u.s. in afghanistan, which, of course, was once the base for the 9/11 attacks. anthony? >> david martin. thank you, david. the fate of a u.s. navy fighter pilot is still unknown after his plane crashed during a routine training mission in california. it happened yesterday in death valley national park near an area dubbed star wars canyon. the fa-18 super hornet jet, like the one you see in these pictures, exploded on impact.

seven park visitors at a scenic overlook were treated for minor burns and cuts. the area is popular with aviation enthusiasts trying to catch a glimpse of fighter jets flying at low level. the cost of borrowing is coming down for the first time since the 2008 financial crisis. the central bank lowered the federal funds rate by a quarter percentage point just yesterday. the decision could make it easier for consumers to borrow money on everything from credit cards to car loans. cbs news business analyst jill schlesinger is here. i'm confused. the economy is supposed to be well, yet the federal reserve is cutting its interest rates. why? >> the fed says global growth is starting to impact u.s. growth. things are slowing down. even the central bankers are saying things are good. tey're not great. they're concerned about that deceleration. one of the things they noted as a rationale for cutting rates, trade uncertainties, which is really crimping growth.

that's a big issue. and finally they're worried that prices are not rising fast enough. it may seem a little weird to imagine this. the fed wants a little bit of inflation, but not too much inflation. the reason is they want people to get wage increases and spend more money in the economy. that was their joint rationale. >> how does this affect consumers? >> that's the best question. we only care about the federal reserve as it pertains to our lives and weirdly, don't gloss over. the fed controls almost everything we do. let's say you're a saver. you have a bunch of money in the bank. you're not happy. fed cuts rates, you earn less interest. conversely if, you're a boroer, you're starting to dance a little jig. it is expensive to carry credit card balances. it will get a little less expenses. >> mortgages, student loan debt? >> mortgages key off a different rate. it's a longer term rate. good news there is that long-term mortgage rates are at three-year lows.

think about student loans, probably not a lot of help there of the student loan rates for the federal program are set once a year. they were just set early in july. they're down a little bit but they're not going to move. those are in stone. if you have a private student loan and it's a variable loan, you may see some relief. >> here is what everyone is afraid of. does this mean that there are signs a recession is on the horizon? >> that's not what the federal reserve is saying. i don't speak to economists who say an imminent recession is upon us. they're saying this slowdown is happening. the fed wants to get ahead of it. that's the reason why they're cutting rates today. whether or not we see a recession any time soon is anyone's guess. >> anyone's guess. you heard it from jill schlesinger. >> that's right. i'm not going on the record with that one. >> jill, thank you. rapper asap rocky took the witness stand at his assault trial in sweden a short time ago. along with his cousin and friend, he's accused of attacking a 19-year-old man in stockholm last month, a charge they deny.

president trump and american celebrities have called for their release and our roxana saberi is in stockholm. >> reporter: he admitted that he threw him to the ground but only after he attacked his bodyguard and also told the judge he repeatedly told him to leave him and his friends alone but appeared to be under the influence of drugs. >> that's when i intervened and i threw jafari to the ground. and i stepped on his arm. i kicked his arm and i punched him or shoved him. >> reporter: the video has gone viral. the rapper, his cousin and friend have pleaded not guilty and lawyers say they were acting in self-defense. jafari accuses the americans of hitting him with a bottle. legal experts say if true, that would be crucial to the case and the men would automatically be sentenced to prison at least one year. rocky said today he picked up a bottle but did not use it.

also in court, we saw the president's special envoy for hostage affairs. rocky's mother was also here, wearing a shirt bearing her son's name. the trial could last until next week. then the judge has up to two weeks to issue a verdict. >> roxana saberi in sweden. thanks, roxana. the fathers of two american . cool down a bit today from yesterday and a couple of degrees below average. the numbers are two to three degrees below yesterday. 80 in san jose. 65 in san fron. and the upper 80s for inland locations. for the next few days, trend is back up. friday is a little bit warmer. saturday a little bit still. and then we'll cool down in the middle of next week.

we have much more news ahead. body camera video shows first responder struggling to deal with a mentally ill man who was killed hours later. only on "cbs this morning," his parents explain why they believe police and emts did not do their job. plus, newly released evidence shows the faa expected the boeing 737 max to fail again after the first of two deadly crashes. and a retired nfl player who beat cancer joins a long list of people suing the

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it's 7:30 on ctm. here's what's happening this morning. >> go easy on me, kid. >> fellow democrats challenged joe biden. >> it looks like one of us has learned the lessons of the past and the other hasn't. >> don't let republicans divide this party. osama bin laden son and next in line to lead al qaeda is killed in a military operation. investigators look for the cause of a fire at an exxon plant in texas that injured 37 people. plus, how you can get better at making decisions in your everyday life. >> what are you going to do? >> i need your help.

♪ singing helps you make decisions ♪ >> how that could possibly be true. college interns on capitol hill and the nonprofit that helps them pay for the privilege. >> i wanted to give other students like me an opportunity that i only dreamed of. welcome back to "cbs this mornin morning". i'm anthony mason with tony dokoupil. gayle king is off so saturday morning co-host michelle miller is with us. the fathers of two american teenagers accused of killing an italian police officer are in rome this morning. gabriel natale-hjorth and finnegan elder are accused of stabbing an italian police officer to death. seth doane is outside the prison where the teens are being held. >> finnegan elder's father has come and stayed for his son

about an hour. that means both fathers have visited their sons at the prison and we understand both mothers will be traveling to italy, presumably, to do the same. according to prison rules, prisoners are allowed one hour once a week with family members and an extra two hours are given at some point during the month as bonus time. mr. elder arrived earlier in the day with a small plastic bag that apparently had clothes in it and his expression was quite grim. swarmed by media, finnegan elder's father, ethan, arrived to the prison this morning, saying nothing. his son has confessed, investigators say, to killing officer mario cerciello rega, who was stabbed 11 times following a botched drug deal and extortion attempt, allegedly carried out by elder and his former schoolmate gabriel natale-hjorth. investigators say elder stabbed rega with a knife he brought

from the u.s., photo posted on social media shows elder posed with the night. both teens had been drinking, according to police and at least one had been also doing drugs. the officer forgot his service weapon early friday morning when he was called to investigate that alleged extortion attempt in which police say the teens tried to get money and cocaine in exchange for a bag they had stolen. natale-hjorth's father visited his son in prison, writing gabriel never imagined there would be a confrontation and did not know his friend was armed. outside the prison this morning, natale-hjorth's lawyer told us his client is very young and very emotionally stressed. investigators say both teens are responsible for the killing. in italy, more than one person

can be charged with murder regardless of whether the person carried out the slaying. >> reporter: when he visited his client earlier inside the prison, he said the teenager cried the entire time. >> seth doane in rome, thank you very much. police and paramedics pick up, then release a mentally ill man just before he was killed on a south carolina interstate. >> still not ease toy talk about, is it? >> no. talking about him gets me really upset. talking about this stuff gets me angry. ahead and only on cbs news, his family tells us why they believe officers and emts could have prevented their son's death. if you're on the go, subscribe to our podcast. we call that a good deal. you're watching "cbs this morning." we appreciate it. 20 minutes or less. we call that a good deal. thank you for watching. we appreciate it. .

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south carolina for how they treated their mentally ill son. paul tarashuk jr. was killed walking along a south carolina interstate last year hours after being picked up and released by police and paramedics. in an interview you'll see only on cbs news, jim axelrod sat down with the tarashuk family. jim, good morning. sounded like this young man needed some help. >> good morning, michelle. he certainly did. his family has file aid civil lawsuit against a dozen defendants, including law enforcement and paramedics. among the items of evidence in the case, body camera video. a warning, some of what you're about to see is graphic. it's been a year of crippling emotion for cindy and paul tarashuk. a year since the death of their 26-year-old son, also named paul. >> still not easy to talk about, is it? >> no. talking about him gets me really

upset. talking about this stuff gets me angry. >> reporter: paul tarashuk had chizoaffective disorder, suffering from delusions and hallucinations. last september he a psychotic breakdown traveling along this highway near orangeburg, south carolina. a trucker suddenly saw tarashuk walking toward him. >> naked man. freaks me out. i take off. >> reporter: the trucker drove down the interstate, he realized tarashuk was riding on his rig and called 911. >> come on down. what's going on? >> reporter: officers from three different law enforcement agencies responded including orangeburg sheriff's county clifford doroski. >> he is under the influence. no one can see that? >> reporter: who was certain that he was high or drunk. the rescued body camera shows what happened when the ems

arrived. >> you speak english? >> reporter: he didn't answer the first responders, who were berating and swearing at him. >> give me your damn name for real so i can go home. >> reporter: they shoved an ammonia capsule up his nose. >> breathe in. >> he didn't flinch. >> at that point someone should have stepped up and said we need to take him in some place. he's not someone to let go. >> do you want to go to the hospital, yes or no? do you want to go to jail? >> come on. i'm going to give you a ride. you're not going to jail. you're not under arrest. i'll give you a ride to a safe environment. that's all i want. i want to make sure you're all right. >> reporter: the deputy puts tarashuk into his cruisers, drives him 15 miles to this gas station near the county line, a gas station that was closed at the time. this is the last time paul tarashuk is seen alive. >> just watching him walk to his

death. he was escorted by an officer to his death. >> i think i just hit a person on the interstate. >> reporter: nearly five hours later, the same ems crew was called to deal with tarashuk again, back on the same highway. this time, he was dead. toxicology report from the orangeburg county coroner's office came up clean, no drugs, no alcohol. despite this, clifford doroski is still on the job at the sheriff's department and so is one of the emts. >> they didn't do their job. that's it. they just didn't do their job. they didn't care enough about human life to do their job. >> we asked both the orangeburg county sheriff's department and ems for interviews, they both declined, citing an ongoing

investigation. law enforcement agency is examining whether there was criminal conduct by the first responders. >> i can't imagine what it must be like for that family to watch that footage. it's just heartbreaking. >> that's why they filed the suit, in addition to wanting some kind of accountability and justice. they're looking for some sort of monetary damage that will get the attention of legislators in south carolina to implement some new laws. >> it's a tough job, being an ems worker. >> no question. >> no doubt about it. but when you think about, you know, some of the rules and procedures, again, it's just like in policing. >> let's be clear about this. there are people in that community that are as outraged, a professor we spoke to at the university of nevada las vegas that teaches this stuff says this video is training for every ems worker in what not to do. of course, the majority of ems workers are people we need and conduct themselves in wonderful ways. >> they know to ask are drugs involved, is alcohol involved. why not also ask is there a mental health problem? >> would he have been able to answer? >> might not.

>> standard operating procedure recognizes those. >> instead of driving him to a gas station, maybe they should have driven him to a hospital. jim, thank you. another company is recalling infant sleepers after similar sleepers were linked to dozen . a bit below where yesterday ended up. we have the low clouds over the area and a stronger on shore flow and a deeper marine layer. the afternoon numbers cooler in the sunshine. late morning for some of us and early afternoon for others. and close e to the coast and bay, later. and in the seven-day forecast, we start to warm up again tomorrow. in the mid 90s inland spots by saturday. my lady! those darn seatbelts got me all crumpled up. that's ok! hey, guys! hi mrs. patterson...

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earlier other companies recalled their infant sleepers. the woodstock 50 festival has been silenced. no peace and love this year. yesterday concert organizers officially canceled the event. it was originally scheduled from august 15th through the 18th in new york state but it had setbacks including permit denials and the funding fro a production company. the event was moved to maryland. but many of the headliners, dead & company, my favorite, jay-z, miley cyrus, they all pulled out. they issued a statement saying we thank all the artists, fans, and partners who have stood by us even in the face of adversity. >> the handwriting has been on the wall for a while. the lineup was spectacular. the financing has collapsed. you could tell it was falling

apart. privately they were saying for months -- >> hold on. the original woodstock didn't have any permits. organizers don't decide when there's a concert. musicians and people do. >> it was a different time. nobody knew exactly what was going to happen. now everybody know as what a woodstock looks like. >> i'm say it's an anthony mason exclusive to find out what went wrong, i really do. what do you think? >> i think show up at watkins glen in new york on august 16th and 17th and something will happen there. >> you'll be very lonely. >> chance the rapper, janelle monae, brandi carlile. it was going to be a great lineup. >> it was a great lineup. 44 people were hurt in a park in a wave machine in a park because it launched a sun. take a look. several swimmers were launched literally out of the pool and onto the pavement on monday.

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. good morning. four minutes before 8:00. i'm mckayla maroney. and antioch, a man in his 20s was shot and killed near parker lane. it happened shortly before 10:30 last night. the shooting is under investigation this morning. and over in san francisco, a double shooting sent two people tho the hospital. no word on any suspects or possible motive in either case. and search crews are scouring an area of death valley national park for a navy pilot. yesterday, a fighter jet crashed 60 miles north of the station.

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. good morning. here at 7:58, tracking the travel times and the bridges. the golden gate bridge, a fog advisory and very little traffic. heading to san francisco, no extra time. just be careful due to visibility issues. and main travel times in the red through the at montd pass and the east shore freeway. highway 4 is in the yoil as is 101. and a little bit cooler for the daytime highs. a strong flow and plenty of low clouds. 80 in san jose. 65 san francisco. seven-day forecast, we'll warm

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♪ good morning to our viewers in the west. it's thursday, august 1st, 2019. welcome back to "cbs this morning." ahead more discourse from democrats at last night's debate. we will get reaction from candidate bernie sanders. a new lawsuit adds a platform name and face to allegations that a well known weed killer causes cancer. and help for students who cannot afford those on paid internships that may open new career opportunities. first, today's "eye opener" at 8:00. the second round of the democratic presidential debates, a string of attacks on joe

biden. >> he shook hands with kamala harris and was heard to say go easy on me, kid, but nobody on stage did. >> if you are a biden supporter, okay, we have stabilized. this is not the kind of ringing performance on spevgss. >> the facts surrounding the operations which killed hamza bin laden remain murky. it is not clear when or where it happened. does this mean a recession is on the horizon? >> the slowdown is happening. the fed wants to get ahead of it. whether or not we see a recession any time soon is anyone's guess. video of that attack has gone viral. they have pled not guilty and the lawyers say they were acting in self-defense. the trial could last until next week. tonight two of the second round of democratic debates that we're calling democratic debate night, too many candidates to remember, forget harder 2, this time it's not all white people. >> over the last two nights we have watched 20 democrats arguing. usually, if you want to see

that, you have to walk into a whole foods and start criticizing "hamilton." >> this morning's "eye opener" is presented by toyota. let's go places. all right. that was a good line. >> yeah. "hamilton" or maybe the organic arugula prices. those are high. whole paycheck they call it. i am welcome, michelle. joe biden had to answer more questions than anyone else at last night's democratic presidential debate. his opponents strongly criticized the democrats frontrunner for his current policies and record. biden defended his views on issues from immigration to women's rights. >> if you cross the border illegally, you should be able to be sent back. it's a crime. >> it looks like one of us has learned the lessons of the past and one hasn't. >> what we need are politicians that have some guts on this issue. >> mr. vice president has said that since the 1970s every major crime, every crime bill, major

and minor has had his name on it. this is one of nothose instance where the house was set on fire and you claimed responsibility for those laws. >> there is nothing done for the entire eight years he was mayor. there is nothing done to deal with the police department that was corrupt. >> he wrote an op-ed that he believed that women working outside the home would, quote, create the deterioration of family. he also said that women who are were working outside the home were, quote, avoiding responsibility. >> you came to syracuse university with me and said it was wonderful. i'm passionate about the concern making sure women are treated equally. i don't know what's happened except that you are now running for president. >> biden also went on the attack, slamming medicare for all plans like the ones being pushed by senators kamala harris, elizabeth warren, and bernie sanders. >> it will be a deductible in your paycheck.

bernie acknowledges. $30 trillion has to be paid, and i don't know what math you do in new york. i don't know what math you do in california. but i tell you that's a lot of money. and there will be a the dao ductable out of your paycheck. >> all right. let's hear what senator bernie sanders says about that. he joins us from his home city of burlington, vermont. talking about this week's debates first on ttm. senator, good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> i know as we played that clip from joe biden at last night's debate you were shaking your head already. he says there is going to be a big deductible from people's paychecks under this single-payer system. he says it's going to be a big tax. you don't deny that, do you? >> look, this is what i believe. this is what the case is. we are now spending twice as much per capita on health care as do the people of any other country. just a few days ago, as you may know, i took a trip to canada with a number of people dealing

with diabetes. we bought insulin in canada for one-tenth of the price that we're paying in the united states. the drug companies are charging us the highest prices in the world but last year they made $69 billion in profit. the function of health care must not be, as is the case right now, for the drug companies and the insurance companies to make huge profits while 87 million americans can't afford the health care that they have. they can't go to the doctor when they want. 30,000 people each year die. 500,000 americans go bankrupt because of the medical bills that they can't afford to pay. this is an irrational system. we have to do what the canadians and people of every other country do. health care is a human right. we can cut the cost that people pay for health care substantially by eliminating the profiteering, the complexity, and the bureaucracy of the current system. >> senator, a cbs news poll

found two-thirds of democrats that think that a national plan works better if it competes with private insurance. doesn't that suggest you are trying to sell something that democratic voters may not want? >> well, let me in all due respect push back on you here. a poll came out the other day. polls are polls. when you tell people the following, under a medicare for all you have freedom of choice with regard to the doctor or the hospital that you go to. and let's also understand that under our bill we expand medicare benefits for the elderly to include dental care, eyeglasses, and hearing aids, which are not now currently covered. let's also be very clear that every single year some 50 million americans change their health insurance policies. you leave your job. yes? >> you're right. polls are polls. but, you know, many people are

frustrated with their private health insurance. you're absolutely right about that. can you convince a number of americans to support a federal system that will actually be better than the private market? that poll seems to suggest that people think competition would be good. >> competition is terrible in health care. the function of an insurance company is to deny you the claims that you thought you had. what the function -- go ahead. i'm sorry. >> i want to blflip it around. 2.7 million people are working in the insurance industry. what should those people fear? should they fear for their own job security? >> well, the answer is we have a just transition built in. the function of a health care system should not be somebody sitting behind a desk telling you that you are not going to get the benefits that you thought you had, that you are going to be denied. that's a waste of money. function of a health care system should not be giving hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses

to an executive who brings about a merger or huge compensation packages for the ceos of the pharmaceutical industry. we're talking about a just transition. let's be clear. if you go to canada right now and you have heart surgery and you are in the hospital for a month, you leave that hospital without a nickel expense because they understand that health care is a right. >> senator -- >> to my -- yes, go ahead. >> i want to say you appeared in the debate the other night, you appeared to have a kind of a non-aggression pact with elizabeth warren. do you two have a deal not to attack each other at least at this stage? >> look, elizabeth and i have been friends for over 20 years. she is running her campaign and i'm running my campaign. they are different campaigns. i think the most effective way to campaign, to be honest with you, is to talk to the american people about why the middle class is disappearing, why we have massive income and wealth

inequality. the great challenge we face in terms of climate change. the thievery that is going on in the pharmaceutical industry where there is price fixing and incredible greed. you talk about those issues, do you well. you try to beat up on somebody else, frankly, i don't think it's good politics. >> senator, at some point you and elizabeth warren, as most pundits indicate, will make that next debate. how will you differentiate yourself from her? you are two progressives. >> i will let you guys and the ameican people make that decision. all i can say -- >> what is the single principle -- what is biggest difference between you and senator sanders? you have to draw the distinct, senator. >> no. >> no? >> no. i have to tell the american people what i believe. i am going to take on the greed of wall street, the drug companies, the insurance companies. we are going to tell the fossil fuel industry that they cannot continue to destroy this planet for their short-term profits. right now the american people

understand there is something wrong when people are, many people are working longer hours for lower wages. 49% of all new income goes to the top 1%. that's my message to the american people. we have to take on corporate greed. we have to create an economy that works for all of us, not just the 1%. that's my message. that's what i campaign on. >> senator sanders, thank you for being with us this morning. >> my pleasure. thank you. former nfl player merril hoge is growijoining a growing of people who blame a chemical in roundup for causing their cancer. >> what's it like when you go to your local hardware store and you see roundup on the shelves? >> my gosh, how can it be there and still expose people without them knowing it. >> how roundup's maker is pushing ba

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with a chemical link to cancer. in a lawsuit made public yesterday, 54-year-old merril hoge says he developed non-hodgkin's lymphoma as a, quote, direct result of being exposed to the hurmicide. the company behind roundup says, quote, roundup does not cause nhl, non-hodgkin's lymphoma. meg oliver spoke to hoge and is in cincinnati. >> a series of brand injuries required hoge to retire, but he's always been extremely health conscious, avoiding drugs and alcohol. that's why for him, his cancer diagnosis was especially shocking. >> hoge inside the 5, has a man in front. falls ahead for the touchdown. >> as a running back for the pittsburgh steelers for seven years, merril hoge is used to taking on tough opponents on the gridiron. but he says his biggest challenge was beating cancer, which involved intense chemotherapy. >> you can feel it really

literally screaming through your veins, hit every part of your body. the burns, the hair loss. the fatigue of it all. >> hoge was diagnosed with non-hodgkin's lymphoma in 2003 and declared cancer-free five years later, but he says he only recently realized his diagnose could have been related to roundup, which he first used in the late '70s while working on an idaho ranch. >> did it get on your skin, on your clothes? what was it like? >> i have been using roundup forever. i didn't use glove. we weren't told to use gloves or a mask. >> hoge is now suing monsanto, claiming it caused him life-threatening cancer, permanent injuries, physical pain and mental anguish. >> how do you know it's roundup that caused your cancer? >> talking to doctors, that's the first thing. >> what did they tell you? >> were you ever around a pesticide or chemicals like

roundup? i shared my farm story. >> joseph is hoge's attorney. >> we'll be seeking recovery for mr. hoge. >> how much would you estimate that would be? >> it could be in the millions of dollars. >> the lawsuit claims roundup is dangerous to human health and unfit to be marketed and sold. in 2015, the international agency for research on cancer classified roundup's active ingredient as a probable cause of cancer. >> what's it like for you when you go into your local hardware store and see roundup on the shelves? >> oh, my gosh. how can it be there and still exposed to people without them knowing it. >> hoge is more than 1 of 18,000 plaintiffs who allege it caused them cancer or other injuries. bayer has lost three court cases with damages totaling $190 million. bayer said we have great sympathy for any individual with cancer but the extensive body of

science on herbicides over four decades supports the conclusion that roundup does not cause non-hodgkin's lymphoma. the environmental protection agency says that chemical posed no risks of concern for people exposed to it. even though hoge is now cancer-free, he sayshi lawsuit is about more than just him. >> i am about helping make things better for our kids. and if i know that something is being done wrong, that is absolutely harmful to our kids and we can change it, then i'm going to try to change it. >> hoge still lives in fear his cancer could return and he could face delayed side effects from years of treatment. anthony. >> meg, another big battle for bayer. thank you very much. >> ahead, how the government is back pedaling on whether you should claim a cash payout in the massive equifax data breach settlement. you're watching "cbs this morning." ing "cbs this morning." shopping for backpacks...

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our green room with tips on how we can all get better at making decisions big and small. that's coming up. your local news is next. your local news is next. . good morning. it is 8:25. i'm mckayla maroney. the fbi is bringing more investigators to gilroy to help look into the deadly garlic festival shooting. they are expecting profilers to look at whoo might have gone through the mind of gunman santino william legan. three killed and sefrlt wounded on sunday. and festival vendors are getting belongings back. many returns to booths yesterday. some had thousands of dollars worth of goods sitting in the sun for three days. of and san francisco's outside lambs the happening in two weeks. sfp said there will be a police

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. good morning here at 8:27. and a look at the main travel times this morning. no longer in the green. everything is starting to heat up out there. not in the red, which is great news. 38 out of the pass. 24 on the east shore freeway. highway 4 is easy, 34 minutes. 65 out of the south bay.

and important for those of you crossing the bay bridge, it looks good. the backup is only to the 880 flyover. there is an accident west of treasure island blocking one lane. it's going to be a slow drive all the way to the city this morning. slower than normal as a result of the accident. that's a similar story at the san mateo bridge. plenty of brake lights and a slow crawl. cooler today thanks to the clouds. lower numbers in the morning and also in the afternoon. that places san jose at 80. that's 3 degrees below average for this time of year. kind of nice for a change. 71 oakland. 87 in santa rosa. the trend there through the next five days. it is warmer this weekend. the next seven days won't look and feel like today. a little bit of a warm-up for the weekend. and then down a bit in the mid 80s next week.

as far as the weekend warm-up goes, while it is above average, it's not going to be heat advisory hot. just noticeably warmer.

welcome back to "cbs this morning." it is time to bring you some of the stories we're talking about. we call it talk of the table. we each pick a story and share it with one another. what do you have, anthony? >> the passing of one of the real giants of broadway, hal prince, who died at the age of 91. he won 21 tony awards, which is pretty extraordinary in itself. when you go down the list of what he did, it's kind of mind-blowing. he started out in the '50s as a producer. his first show was pajama game. then he went on to damn yankees, west side story, fiddler on the roof. he got so successful, he could

hire himself to be a director, which is what he really wanted to do. he directed cabaret, the musical that is my favorite of all time, sweeney todd, phantom of the opera, the longest running show on broadway. they called him a genius and a gentleman. that's the biggest compliment you can get. andrew lloyd weber said all of modern musical theater owes practically everything to him. >> and jerry sip ruano, the writer for cbs news, the evening news, rather, pointed out that he's won 19 more tonys than ctm. >> i have yet to win a tony, and it's my name. >> there you go. you should be given an honorary tony. michelle, what's your story? >> if you were expecting to receive $125 in compensation for that equifax data breach, think again. the folks were given like two choices here. they could either take a $125 cash payout, you know, just cold. get your money out of this. or, which is what a lot of people did, or you could go for

the free ten years of free credit counseling. what a lot of people did exactly what you said, tony, they went for the cash. and what ended up happening was they just didn't have the money to cover it. so equifax is now saying we can't cover it. we have a $31 million cap. the question is, what are they going to do about it, what is the ftc going to do to insure people get $125? that's the question mark. >> can they be compelled? >> i hope so. i'm talking about, there's an artificial intelligence company called deep mind. if you heard of it, it's probably because they beat a machine that could beat humans at a strategy game called go. now, they can also beat doctors in diagnosing a dangerous condition called acute kidney injury. there's a paper in the journal nature, a google-owned company, called deep mind. it found the machine learning technology could accurately predict incidence in acute kidney injury two days before

doctors saw it. and they were about 50% of the time able to do this. it's a real breakthrough. and there's another software of a similar sort even more successful overseas. a little bit ironic, and i don't know how i feel about it that technology companies that seem to be chopping up our attention span are giving us solutions for machines that can think for us. >> if can really do that, it's phenomenal. >> truly looking into the future. >> brain science at work. >> well, it's estimated we make about 35,000 decisions every day. from what to eat for breakfast to how to spend money. but with so many options. it's often hard for some to choose, as we found out. >> i think you're making like thousands of decisions. based on what to eat, what time to get up. >> yeah, decision making is pretty hard. >> i own my own business so i have to make decisions all the time. >> every decision i have ever made in my entire life has been

wrong. >> if i make a decision, i don't know, like, i feel i'm just learning from it. >> there's too many options. if i only had one choice, it would be easy. ♪ trying hard for you >> my brain wasn't up to choosing between things so i got one of everything. >> you do me proud. >> i usually have a top three, at least i like those top three. >> sometimes you make great decisions and you pat yourself on the back. other times you kind of fall on your face. >> i knew exactly what to do, but in a much more real sense, i had no idea what to do. >> i'm impulsive, so i make a decision, and then i think about it like an hour later and go why did i do that? >> i decided to do this interview. >> researchers say there are two types of decision makers. assessment decision makers do extensive research but they often feel overwhelmed and stressed when deciding. then buyer's remorse afterward.

locomotive decision makers choose quickly based on available information. they do not get overwhelmed or stressed and are often satisfied with their choice. psychiatrist dr. sue varma is here with some tips on how to get better at making decisions. good morning. >> thank you. thanks so much for having me. >> lay it out for us. how do we become better decision maker because we're always having a problem with it. >> we make 35,000 decisions a day. and 200 of those are about food, just by itself. all of us are making -- >> food? >> yes. and all of us are making decisions throughout the day, but and it depends on person to person, but also moment to moment. some of the variables are what is our attention span in life in general. what is on our plate at this given moment, what is competing for our attention. what is our motivation, how much does the decision matter to us, what are the perceived consequences of those decisions, but also, what is our unique personality style, which you were alluding to. >> there's a bunch of decisions right there i'm having trouble

making. >> can't keep up. >> your personality style, so when you were talking about the locomotive type, these are people who value action. they are goal oriented. they want to get on with their decision. they want to move on with their lives. versus the people who are assessment style, we call them maximizers who are looking for accuracy. they value accuracy, the truth. they're perfectionists. >> the maximizer or the assessment styles drive themselves crazy. we all have a little bit of each, bu have predominant style. the maxmers are never happy with their decision because they felt like they left something better on the table. when you're talking about dating, a salad -- >> a movie on netflix. we spend an hour, we choose nothing. we play nothing. >> it's called the netflix effect. >> can a person who is an assessment decision maker or a full-speed ahead decision maker be married to one another? does that work? >> absolutely. and usually it is. there's one person who is kind of navigating the ship. if you're somebody who trusts

the other person and say i'm going to let you make the decisions, there's certain benefits of each of them. we're inundated with choice. the american constitution is based on freedom. we very much value that, of feeling empowered. however, we don't realize more choices actually limit our freedom because we're spending so much time deliberating and companies actually when they limit the number of choices, people buy more product. you don't want to overwhelm people. >> you want all those choices then you become paralyzed by them. so how do you make it easier for yourself? >> yes, so that you don't become a victim to decision fatigue, which is a big problem with choice overload, you want to narrow it down. this is especially true for people who are maximizers. in general, even the assessment styles might get freaked out if it's an important decision. limit it to three decisions. look, it's okay to have a wide variety of things to choose from, but then limit it down to three. then i would say ask three people, not more than that, m maximizers love to get people's

opinions. pick three people relevant to the situation who have experience. then give yourself a deadline, don't spend too much time on it. and once you make a decision, move on. there's a great african proverb i love. they said before you get married, keep two eyes open. once you get married, keep one eye closed. >> i like that. >> very good advice. thanks so much for being with us this morning. >> thousands of interns go to capitol hill every year, but most do not get paid a dime. ahead in our series, a more perfect union, how one nonprofit is making sure a lack of money is not a

our series "a more perfect union" aims to show that what unites us as americans is far greater that whan divides us. who can afford to work in coresss an intern? congress is not required to pay those interns and most members do not, but we found one innovative nonprofit that connects low income students with congressional internships that some thought they could not afford. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, good morning. >> good morning.

yeah. think about this. most members of congress are worth more than a million dollars, and yet most don't pay their interns a dime. that's what keeps a key stepping stone out of reach for young adults who can't work for free in one of the nation's most expensive cities. each year 8,000 interns come to congress, but for some, capitol hill can be a tough climb. >> i come from a town of 380 peop people, single mom, grew up in a trailer. >> reporter: texas native audrey had to take out a loan, work two jobs just to do an internship seven years ago. >> not only do you have to pay for housing which is between $1,600 and $2,000 per month, then you have to pay for food. >> that experience allowed her

to come up with a nonprofit that gives low income students the money and training they need to succeed here. >> do you have any yg who i am? >> you said your name was melissa. >> melinda gates, sir. >> more than 1,000 students applied. ryan went back to college and has a snoon one of my earliest memories was working in agricultural fields over the summer. >> college to congress spends $26,000 on each intern to cover flights, housing, and food. >> $26,000 for the summer, that's a game-changer. >> absolutely. >> completely. >> that's a good income where i come from. >> the money also helps them build a professional wardrobe. >> think about how much a suit is. and you can't just buy one.

you're working five days a week. >> another obstacleealthier interns don't face. >> i had a breakdown in the jcpenney aisle because there were like 15 types of socks and i didn't know what to pick. >> did you own a tie? >> i did. i owned two. >> they have backing of big names like toyota, facebook, and google. south carolina republican tim scott was an early champion. >> growing up in a single-parent household mired in poverty, a lot of things you did was working. >> working for free wld have never been an option for you. >> no. i don't think it is for the average kid in the country. what we've learned is by having a cross section of all of america employed here, i serve hopefully all of america better. >> ryan says interning for a senate subcommittee is already

opening doors he never new existed. >> this is insane. i'm meeting people and they say, do you want a job. it's huge. >> you can see how this experience might changeure whole job trajectory. >> absolutely, yes. >> melissa reyes is making contacts too, interning for democrat chuck schumer. >> it's interesting. it's leak, do you want to get coffee? i'm like, wow, you really like coffee. >> 80% of college to congress alumni has stayed in public service. >> there is a generation that's hungry to be part of the difference, who isn't desensitized like a lot of americans are but who do see an opportunity to fix this. >> what's your ultimate goal. >> i just want congress to look like america. i want the american people to be heard. >> i asked senator scott why more lawmakers don't pay their interns, and he said he thinks it's just not on their radar. he added that he thinks it's a great investment because a lot of these interns are smarter than the members they work for,

his words, not mine. >> oh, wow. >> throwing shade there. >> we love that. >> cheers to audrey henson. >> i like what she said. i want congress to look more like america. i think we can help that kid who had the breakdown in the sock aisle by talking with dr. varma. this morning on our cbs podcast we hear about vice and why not all vices are bad. before we go, young sisters turning lemons into an act of kindness for need. we'll be right back. o0 c1

before we go, the north carolina sisters taking on their entire school district's lunch debt problem by selling lemonade. haley and hannah hager, they're 14 and 11, set the ambitious goal after learning how many fellow students could not pay for lunch. the district total was about $43,000. their lemonade stand has helped cut that number almost in half. they've raised enough to pay off debt at 16 schools and have nine more to go, and now their project, haley and hannah's helping hands has officially received federal nonprofit status, helping them raise even more money. >> they're taking orders right at the carside there. >> whatever it takes. this is so impressive. >> it really is. they shouldn't have to do it. but the fact that they dierng is amazing. >> when you think about it, starbucks sells those like five bucks per pop.

>> you can't learn without lunch. >> no, you can't. >> it's a great thing. we're rooting for them. >> that does it for us. be sure to tune in to the c b s eecs

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