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captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: it's sunday, august 18th. i'm margaret brennan and this is "face the nation." a wild week on wall street fuels fear of an election-year recession as president trump warns it will be even worse if he loses. >> you have no choice but to vote for me, because your 401(k) s down the tubes. everything is going to be down the tubes. so whether you love me or hate me, you got to vote for me. >> brennan: but a u.s.-china trade war with no end in sight isn't helping the president's case. we'll talk with one of his top economic advisers, peter navarro. >> no more gun violence! >> brennan: two weeks after the shootings in el paso and dayton, gun safety groups rally
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across the country to keep pressure on congress. are the parties any closer to finding common ground? our guest, key democrat west virginia senator joe manchin. >> hey, i see you! >> brennan: and on the campaign trail, andrew yang tries to dance his way to the white house. we'll ask the entrepreneur, will voters get in step. plus president trump eyes a new piece of property for the u.s. seth doane reports from greenland. all that and political analysis of the week up next on "face the nation." >> brennan: good morning and welcome to "face the nation." it was a volatile week for the stock market as warnings emerged that the economic boom may be slowing. that could complicate president trump's reelection bid as fears of a recession seemed rooted in his intensifying trade war with china. we start this morning in coal
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country with west virginia senator joe manchin. he joins us from charleston. good to have you on the progrou, margaret. >> brennan: senator, you have been very supportive of president trump's trade war. given the worries that we're seeing emerge this week and the president's decision to pull become on some tariffs related to consumers, are you having second thoughts? >> well, no, i have been very hawkish on china, because china's intent is not for america to succeed or do well. with that being said, the way they have been able to have their economic might and also their military might has been through espionage. so we have to be very careful of that and very much aware for that. i think there is a time for a correction. this is it. with that being said, we should be strengthen our ties with all of our allies and bringing on more allies we can do good trade with, honest, fair trade, competitive trade, but not unfair trade such as has been gone on with china for far too long. >> brennan: in terms of your likerns about a economic
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don't see one happening, but you did mention espionage there. your have been raising concerns about chinese investment in your home state. >> yeah. >> brennan: what exactly is happening here? what are you trying to put the brakes on? >> it's not the brakes. i encourage investment. i want your capital investment made in my state. we welcome any country that wants to come make investment, but to take our raw material out, such as our ethane, propane, and butane for building stocks, manufacturing stocks, and export every bit of that, that leaves us with nothing and no building blocks for us to have a reemergence of a manufacturing base. i think that's wrong. i said reciprocate. we should be reciprocating with countries that reciprocate with us. go over to china and try the use their resources and bring them to america. do any of that other than manufactured goods they want to sell, but their resourcings or their grid system or any of that is off limits. why should we give them an
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rd>> brennan: i o yh makes itxte about gun contl.een trying sinc1 get this bl that would tighten backgroundck bill passed. you have spoken to the president this time. will he go out there and twist arms to get republicans on board with this bill? >> when i drafted that bill in 2013 and pat came on as my partner and we worked that bill, it was basically around law-abiding gun owners. law-abiding gun owners will do the right thing, but when it comes to background checks, when you go to commercial transaction, such as a gun show or an internet or you don't know the person, common sense should tell "you are my you you shoulda background check. president trump has a golden opportunity, truly a golden opportunity to, start making america safe again. make america safe again by starting with this basic building block of background checks. >> brennan: but has the and getubli caucus too out there
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ted on ae .let me just sayee bvery eernlge alogue going bk and a pathway forward, i c't tell work most common sense procedure of what we can get the votes for to do something that truly starts making america safe again. and we have a responsibility. people are afraid to go out, communities or let their children go to different types of things that would be a gathering of more than a couple people, and they're concerned about. this we shouldn't be living in fear in america. america should be safe. we can do that. >> brennan: we had the republican whip from the house just last week, steve scalise. he said, "we have the tools we need." there were background checks already passed and what you're proposing he wasn't championing. he was classically saying it's
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already been done. you have to implement it better. >> i respectfully disagree with steve. i like him. he's a good person. but we have disagreements on. this i come from a gun culture. i am a gun owner. no one is going to take my guns away. i'm going to protect the second amendment. i'm a law-abiding gun owner. ly do the right thing. but if i go to the gun show and i go on the internet and somebody wants to buy my gun, i've been taught not to sell my gun to a stranger to, someone who has a criminal background, someone who is not mentally stable. these are things that we're going to make those decision, but when you don't know somebody, don't you think you can come to that agreement, that that makes sense? there are so many other good things that have been brought to the table, you know, the red flag bill that lindsey graham and a lot of us are working on makes sense. if we can identify and get somebody help before they do some horrible tragedy, it should be done. and we have the ability to do these things that really make sense. >> brennan: but no promise to you personally by president trump that this is the bill he wants to see passed? >> there's no promise on any of
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this right now. it's just open. but we have good dialogue. we haven't had this before. we have working groups together. he says he's very encouraged. he wants something to happen. i'm saying, well, president trump, this is yours. it doesn't happen unless you stand up and you have a bill and you basically support and this is your piece of legislation, and it should be a gun sense bill that makes sense to all gun owners. >> brennan: well, the only way legislation gets passed if senators are here in washington working on it. there are some questions about whether you're staying or going back to west virginia to run for governor. are you going to stay and fight? >> well, i'm going to be fighting. that's for sure, no matter what happens i'll be here fighting. that's for darn sure. >> brennan: here in washington? >> i'll make a decision basically right after labor day here. i'll make a decision, and i will announce to the people of west virginia. i've had a lot of inquiries. they want me to come back home. i have people who think maybe i should stay, and we're looking at it. i want to do what i can to help my state of west virginia. it's always been about west virginia for me.
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>> brennan: last time we spoke with you. you just got back from a trip the arctic. you went to greenland. i'm wondering what you think about this idea of acquiring it. >> well, greenland is a cold place, but it's melting. we saw the effects of global climate change. changes are happening. and the people up there understand that. they're trying to adjust to it. we have a very strategic base up there, a military base, which we visited. and i understand that the strategic logic for that in that part of the world and the arctic opening up the way it is. that was a very interesting proposal that was thrown out, but we haven't heard much about it. i'm on armed service. we should be getting a briefing soon about that. >> brennan: on purchasing greenland? >> well, if that's the intend. if it has any merit, we'll hear about it. inhaven't heard. reported on the news. >> brennan: all right. senator, we'll stay tuned for that decision after labor day. thank you very much. >> okay. margaret. thank you. bye-bye.
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>> brennan: this weekend morek o the streets of hong congress to demonstrate for free speech in defiance of a ban imposed by the chinese government. this is the 11th week of such protests and our cbs news asia correspondent brings us a report on today's mass demonstration. >> reporter: good morning, margaret. the protest here in hong kong is massive, organized, and peaceful. despite the rain, torrential at time, it's clear support is very strong. hundreds of thousands of people came out the defy threats from beijing, calling for democratic reforms and stressing peace after the worst violence and chaos we've seen. earlier this week protesters crippled hong kong's airport for two days and accused two chinese citizens of being spice. police have been accused brutality, firing tear gas into a crowded subway station and potentially blinding a protester. this comes with growing fear that china will deploy its
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military to quash these protests. state military are just across the border. on the streets here in hong kong, the people are hoping their collective voice will make a government they call tone deaf finally listen. margaret? >> brennan: thank you. we now turn to the white house director of the office of trade and policy, peter navarro. >> thank you for having me. >> brennan: does the u.s. stand with these pro democracy demonstrators? >> the president has been quite clear that he hopes for a peaceful outcome. he's urged people to remain calm. it's gratifying today that protests are peaceful. the issue here, as your viewers well know, is that china promised in a treaty with great britain that the people of hong kong would be able to determine their own future until 2047. and that's an important
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commitment we hope they'll make. >> brennan: there is a perception that the white house is pulling punches on human rights issue because it wants this trade deal finalized. will beijing face consequences if there is any kind of crackdown? >> i can tell you that the issue of hong kong has never been a part of the trade negotiations. i won't speculate about what may or may not happen. i think we just need to remain calm, encourage the chinese to fulfill their commitments, and what i worry about when i go to work every day is creating manufacturing jobs for the men and women of america. so i think about the combat ships being made in wisconsin, the combat vehicles in ohio or i greenville, south carolina, for f-16. that's my mission at the white house and that's my lane. >> brennan: so in that vein, we've had a strong economy. >> unemployment.
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>> historically low for black, women, hispanics. >> brennan: s&p up something like 15% on the year. >> beautiful thing. >> brennan: rocky week, though. there are now some signs emerging that perhaps there is a slowdown coming. what are the odds that you see of a recession? >> so before i came to the white house, i spent the better part of 20 years forecasting the business cycle and related stop trends. what i'm seeing looking at all the macro tea leaves is a very strong trump economy and bullish stock market through 2020 and beyond. and the things i'm seeing now in the short run that your viewers can watch to see if they come to fruition would be, for example, the federal reserve aggressively lowering rates through the end of the year. the fed raised rates too far too fast. they have cost us a full point of g.d.p. >> brennan: they are expected to lower them. >> they are expected to. second thing, the european aggresve stimulusalkn
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buying securities. >> correct. that will lift the european economy. what that matters for us is they will buy more of our exports. there is a likelihood that china will engage in a second round of fiscal stimulus, which will help the emerging markets, which deliver the commodities to the chinese manufacturing machine and most important in the short run for america here is by early october we hope that congress rises above partisan politics and passes the u.s.-mexico-canada agreement. that will add several hundred thousand jobs to our economy. >> brennan: has speaker pelosi agreed to do that? >> speaker pelosi is working closely with the ambassador, and we are trying to work with the democratic side to basically address all their concerns about enforcement and other things. this is no hyperbole here. the biggest deal in world history, but it also in my judgment one of the smartest and best deals. what it does, the cen u. soil ft
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sucking sound that was nafta. >> brennan: that would be helping to settle the trade dispute with canada and mexico. on the issue of china, though, president trump, here he is earlier this week, explaining why he pulled back on a pledge to roll out some tariffs related to consumer products. >> we're doing this for christmas season. just in case some of the tariffs would have an impact on u.s. custom, which so far they've had virtually none. >> brennan: so have u.s. retailers convinced the president that it is american importers and consumers who will pay the price for these tariffs? >> let's be clear. we've had tariffs on for over a year. the chinese have born the entire burden of that by slashing their prices and reducing the value of their currency by 12%. >> brennan: the president just said there, though, that he's doing this out of concern it could hurt consumers. >> let's look at why the president delayed half of the
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tariffs until december 15th. i was there in the oval office when a group of business people came in and made the following very persuasive argument. they had already bought everything that was going ton sd done it in dollar contract, which means they weren't able to shift the burden back to the chinese. they also told the president they were also moving their production sourcing and supply chain out of china as fast as possible, so beyond december 15th, there will be no impact on consumers because of all of that. so it was a goodwill gesture that the president made to the china. it was a wise decision to delay the tariffs through december 15th. and in the meantime, half of those tariffs are actually going on in september. the tariffs are working. they're an important part of the strategy to bring the chinese to the negotiating table. and i think it's important whenever we talk about the tariffs, we talk about what we're fighting for. >> brennan: but they haven't made any concessions just yet, the chinese, and in fact,
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they've pulled back -- >> it's important for the viewers to understand what we're fighting for. it's the hacking of our computers, our trade secrets, forced technology transfer as a the state-ownedrket access, thee enterprises. >> brennan: that's why so many people on wall street cheer this and so many people in middle america do, but then you have farmers coming out and warnin l, that they are getting hurt, which is why the taxpayers are big a out and you have concerns from wall street with full back and future purchases of things. >> let me say two things. one is the seventh act of aggression, which i want to mention, is the killing of americans with made-in-china fentanyl and opioids. by the end of the day it will be over 100. by the end of the week it will be over 1,000. made-in-china opioids are killing over 50,000 americans this year. that in and of itself is griewdz
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for a tough stance. president trump has the backs of farmers. he's demonstrated that with sonny perdue, the departmentinhe whatever revenues we collect from the tariffs and whatever else we need to make sure the farmers are whole in america. the farmers know they are in the target of the bully china, but we're not going to let that buckle the president's knees. he's committed to this fight. he has the backing of the public. he has the backing of people like joe manchin and other democrats on capitol hill. >> brennan: a lot of people don't like the tools, like tariffs. so how can you promise the american public that they will not feel the impact of these tariffs if the people who sell them good like retailers convince the president they would? >> let me say two things. we've had tariffs on for over a year, $250 billion worth. we haven't seen a thing in terms of inflation. we have seen the chinese -- andlaed price.dicators -- a
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what's happening is retailers are finding other sources of supply, and we're getting investment back here in america. by the way, consumers spend $14 trillion a year. if we have 10% tariffs on $300 billion worth of goods, that's $30 billion. even if all of that were passed on the consumers, you know what that would be? that would be one-fifth of 1% on the consumer price index. it's nothing. >> brennan: we have the leave it there. peter navarro, thank you for joining us. >> nice to be with you. nice the meet you. >> brennan: we'll be back with a 2020 presidential candidate whose supporters call themselves the yang-yangs with entrepreneur andrew yang. strength of aleve. that dares to last into the morning. so you feel refreshed.
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>> brennan: we're back with one of the 23 candidates running for the democratic nomination. andrew yang is a entrepreneur who founded an organization that grants fellowships to college graduates interested in creating start-ups. good morning and welcome to the broadcast. >> it's great to be here. thank for having me. >> brennan: how would you compete with china? >> well, certainly the tariffs and the trade war are the wrong way to go. we're now entering a very dangerous phase of potentially competitive devaluations. i was just in iowa las week, and the farmers and produceers there are losing business. they feel betrayed by president trump. we need to curb some of the abuses on the chinese side, but the trade war is leading the global economy in the wrong direction. >> brennan: what would you do differently? >> well, we what we have to do is create path forward for the chinese that allows them to save face and say, look, we need to curb your theft of intellectual property rights, and here's what we can do in return, but the problem right now is that there
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is no notice, and there is this arbitrary nature of the tariffs will donald trump will say one thing one day and come back the next week. and the chinese at this point don't know how the negotiate in good faith. we have to create a path forward that will work for both sides. >> brennan: the jobless rate in this country is at an historic low. you heard the white house make the case. you are argue thank you see problems with income inequality in this country and that huge classes of jobs are going to disappear because people will be replaced by machines. what jobs are going away entirely? >> well, americans watching this right now are seeing their main street stores close as 30% of american malls and stores shut their doors forever. and the reason for that is that amazon's absorbing $20 billion in business every year andngin d get donald trump elected. we automated away four million manufacturing jobs in ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, all the
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swing states iwt automation tres going to come to retail, call centers, fast food, and eventually truck drivers, which is the most common job in 29e come together and address as a society as quickly as we can. >> brennan: part of your solution is to give everyone $1,000 a month. this is a universal basic income. it's been supported by mark zuckerberg and other entrepreneurs, but how do you actually say that this is going to incentivize people to work? isn't the american dream about working hard to achieve something, not a government handout? >> >> well, americans will work even harder when they get the resources in place the get ahead. this is the trickle-up economy from our people, families, and communities up who will create over two million new jobs in our communities. the money will go right into buo car repairs, daycare expenses,
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little-league sign-ups. and that's where the economic value needs to go in order to create jobs where people live and work. >> breue-added tax on transaction, on consumer purchases. it cost about $2 trillion. i'm wondering what example do you have of this working in another country. like saudi arabia has this. you don't see them as a hub of innovation. >> if you look, margaret, every other developed economy already has a mechanism just like this. europe, canada, asia, and everyone has figured out that you can't have a trillion dollar tech company like amazon pay zero in taxes. less than everyone who is watching this right now. that doesn't make sense and the american people know it. this has already been figured out by every other developed economy. >> brennan: you're talking about a value-added tax. >> that's right. >> brennan: but in terms of the universal basic income, the $1,000 you want to give every
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>> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation." we learned this week that president trump has expressed interest in buying the world's largest island. he has been asking advisers about acquiring greenland. cbs news correspondent seth doane is there and filed this report. >> reporter: walking through town here, you hear questions like, "could it really be true? could president trump possibly be interested in having america buy greenland?" tiny towns like this one are not used to getting this much attention. greenland's allure is sheer. add to its sheer beautal, the natch reihan source, fish stocks, fresh water, minerals and strategic location. it's a new frontier for adventure tourism. the ministry for foreign affairs
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tweeted, adding, "we're open for business, not for sale." and any talk of that seems a little bewildering to folks here, including the mayor. what did you hear? >> that trump will buy greenland. >> reporter: that's what you heard? >> yeah. >> what do you think? >> i think he's crazy.eph a wore heard a few times. >> i think he's crazy. >> reporter: why crazy? >> because he's not the right person to buy a country like greenland, which has the secondest biggest ice sheet in the world. if he buys it, he's going to melt the whole thing just to get the minerals, you know. >> reporter: at times there is little distinction here between president trump, the man, and america. greenlanders have witnessed growing race to control parts of the arctic. china inquired about building airports. >> 900 miles from the north pole. >> reporter: and since 1943, the united states has had an air
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base in northern greenland. the u.s. has tried twice to buy greenland, in 1867 and then again after world war ii. both attempted failed. we took the helicopter to a remote glacier here to meet scientists studying the effects of a changing climate. >> i'm seth doane. nice to meet you. seth. nice the meet you. warm waters are melting glaciers, which could open new shipping lanes in the arctic. way out here, denise and david holland, with nyu, were surprised to hear what is being discussed. have you heard this out here? >> we've been off the grid, so this is news to us. >> reporter: what would you make of that suggestion of the u.s. trying to buy greenland? >> i think you should talk to denmark. they cannot be happy. >> reporter: greenland has been a danish territory since 1953 and politicians in denmark have rejected e, even ridiculed
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the idea of a sale to the u.s. this member of parliament said, "i think it's a lack of respect to talk about greenland as tradeable goods." president trump is expected to travel to denmark in september, and a white house official tells cbs news the topic of greenland is expected to come up, and staffers are already working on it. folks here will most cnn: we'llt back with our plan panel. -- our with our political panel. as a small business owner,
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>> brennan: it's now time for some analysis. we're joined by.nancy youssef, dan balz, antjuan seawright, and leslie sanchez yle. dan, does senator manchin have good reason to be optimistic about the background check legislation actually passing, or is it going to plut way it always has? >> well, this is another opportunity because of the terrible shootings in el paso and dayton. i think there is a little bit more optimism that if president trump gets behind this something could be done. but i don't know that we know whether he's going to actually do that. i mean, that's the big question mark. if the president does begin to twist armious as you were asking senator manchin about, then you might see some change, but
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absent, that i think we have to be skeptical. we've seen this time and time again where there seems to be a move and then things pull back. >> brennan: leslie, it's not only a challenge to get some democrats in the house on board with this version of legislation, because they don't think it goes far enough, but for senator manchin, he also has to persuade the same reluctant republicans to get on board with this. >> absolutely. dan's exactly right on this issue. the interesting aspect is trump has an opportunity to provide some common sense legislation, common sense being the key word. conservative populist movement. is predicated on common sense. the idea that elites got it all wrong. they messed up the country. that's what trump basically ran on. he has an opportunity to look forward, especially for something that would appeal to a lot of sensible gun owners, such as the red flag issues that senator marco rubio put forward or universal background checks that trump has vacillated on. those are real, sensible things that could put pressure on republicans while bringing democrats to the table.
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>> brennan: where are democrats on this? because there has been criticism, as i said, that this man children-toomey bill doesn't go far enough. >> a couple things. no one has been impacted by this issue of guns at this table probably more than me. i lost a friend, a mentor, and a business associate in charleston, south carolina, four years ago when nine people were killed in a church by a white supremacist who wanted to start a race war by dylann roof. four years ago legislation was passed out of the house that 90% of the american people support, like closing the charleston loophole, like universal background checks. so the senate does not have to reinvent the wheel. there is legislation sitting in the senate that 90% of the american people support. that's democrats, republicans, independents and independent thinkers alike some this idea that we have to start from scratch just blows my mind. the fact of the matter is i don't think there are some republicans in certain districts who have an interest in doing
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anything on guns? why? because there is a popular political issue in a primary for republicans. as it relates the democrats, i think democrats want to get something done. for me, if we can do anything to prevent another mother from having the plan a funeral or an el paso example, a child from having the plan a funeral, then i think we've done our job here as the american experiment. >> brennan: nancy, i want to ask you about a big national security issue facing this country. there are still about 14,000 american service people in afghanistan. we know the president has now been briefed on a potential deal with the taliban. talks are under way. what do we know about whether the troops are staying or going and when they might be coming home? >> so we know the taliban have said one of the key issues they want resolved is that the u.s. leave completely, and the u.s. is saying they will only leave on the condition-based plan. so what's happening now is the
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leader of the talks with the taliban will go back. one of the problems is the president and taliban want the u.s. to leave. many argue the taliban has the up hear hand given the u.s. has signaled how much they want to get out of this war. but there is nothing to illustrate that 2 taliban is going to recognize the afghan group,, like dealing with the islamic state. we saw the peril and the fragility of the security situation today when 63 people were killed in a bombing in kabul claimed by the islamic state. so while there's a lot of talk of a drawdown or a withdraw plan and peace tawngs, the underlying political situation and security situation, the challenges that have been there still haven't been addressed. and without seeing the specifics of this plan, it's hard the know what precisely the future for afghanistan looks like. >> brennan: how much is domestic politics playing in if at all? there has been speculation that
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the president wants to bring troops home before the 2020 race. >> what's interesting is there is doe pics politics in afghanistan and the united states, because there are elections happening in september, and secretary of state pompeo wants a deal reached by september 1st. the president has beened a mantd how he doesn't want to have troops there for a sustained period. he said e'when doves cry" he built up more troops two years ago that this was not a plan that he would have gone with insting actually. so i think domestic politics are a huge parted of it. when the military says we need more time after 18 years, there is a lot of frustration among the american public, the idea that this war needs more time, particularly when it's not clear what is being achieved long term to sort of make sure that afghanistan is a safe haven. i think for all sides, the status quo is not tenable. and i think you're seeing that play out in domestic politics. >> brennan: dan, you're seeing that in the messaging between democratic candidates and the president. they aren't that different on this issue. everyone is prime minister mising to bring the troops home,
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but no one can quite fill in the blank of what nancy just laid out. >> that's right. what nancy talked about is exactly the issue. the democratic candidates are reflecting their constituencies. president trump is reflecting national weariness about why we're still in afghanistan. but the question is what are the right terms to bring the troops home, what kind of residual force if any should be left there to prevent chaos from erupting immediately, and the degree to which there is a genuine security threat to the united states, if we fully withdraw. all of those are issues. but in the broad strokes, a lot of democrats are where the president is in saying, we need to end this after 18 years. >> leslie, i want to bring up here a fox news poll that got a lot of attention this week. and it shows that if the 2020 presidential race was held today, people polled were asked, who would they vote for, and in
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virtually every single candidate going through the democratic lineup, president trump seemed to be on the losing end. >> sure. i made a face because it's fox news and that's the conservative base watching, that but i still think it's a lot of political hyperbole. we're still too far out. but some of the interesting things that are. doing out of this, and i know we'll talk about the economy, is how confident republicans, let's say republicans are feeling about the economy. and if you look at a gallup poll, there are 50% of the people feel they are somewhat concerned if not moderately or very concerned about a long-term catastrophic health care issue or their own retirement security. and a substantial portion of that are republican voters. so there is an opening there that's offsetting what should be a really bowl strus support of the president in terms of the economy today. but they're still looking at long-term financial issues, how that plays out and they're shopping, these are voters who are shoppioretter
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alternative, especially on the health care solution. if they hear that, it might be more of a swing voter you're looking at, and that explains what could be that drift. >> brennan: that same poll showed a surge here, though, for elizabeth warren, pulling into second place behind joe biden and pushing bernie sanders down a notch. how much credence do you give this particular poll? what do you think? >> it's everything. i think we have the remember that polls are snapshot of the times. and the devil is always in the details. when is it being asked? who is asking the questions? and for communities of questions, it's how the question is being asked. that's number one. number two, for me, there is no education in the second kick of the mule as they say where i'm. from i worked for hillary clinton in 2008 and 2016. we saw the polls say one thing and the end result was another. but i think there are some consistent things in all polls. one, joe biden has been able to take the heat and not miss a beat. he still remains lock solid among the most loyal voting bloc in the group who i believe will decide who our next nominee will
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be and have a large say-so in who the next president will be. that's african american voters. something is true, elizabeth warren seems to be taking up the space on the progressive lane. she's spulg from bernie sanders and from a lot of different places. what this poll and many other polls also show is kamala harris' ability to stay solid. she continues to stay in the mix and the way it's shaping out with her endorsementings of congressional black caucuses members, with her ground support, she still remains the candidate to watch from a long-term perspective. but there's a lot of ball left to be played, a lot of plays to be ran. >> brennan: well put. and we have a lot more politics the talk about. so we'll take a quick break and come back to complete the conversation in just a moment. stay with us. the future of laundry is here -
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incident, which the israeli government says was justified by laws they have on their books and an upset about a call for boycott to protest the treatment of palestinians. for people at home, this just seemed like a lot of political what does it actually boil down to? >> well, you're right. this was a primarily political battle not only for the united states, but israel got involved in partisan politics arguably. there are a couple take a ways from it. one is that we saw that the israeli election is shaped in part by the united states. remember that they have an election coming up in september, and their last election trump recognized israel's sovereignty over the golan heights. so i think there was some concern that by not recognizing trump's concern about congresswoman tlaib and congresswoman omar's trip that they could lose political capital ahead of a key levels. but i also think that really raised questions about how much
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bipartisan support, support for israel will hold, because we started to see some divisions. that doesn't mean the relationship is in any way broken, but we did see increased tensions over support for israel some how long that will carry out and how long that will be sustained through the election we'll have to see. >> brennan: and president trump continues to say these two freshman congresswomen are the face of the democratic party. they get a ton of attention, and they seem to like some of it, but is this a useful tool for the president? or does it backfire? >> just because he says it doesn't make it true. and it's useful for him because as we've seen, he's on political life support when it comes to his pop rarity. so for him, this is a way the unite his base and bring together the forces that essentially brought him across the finish line last election cycle. but for democrats, i think is a rallying cry, because even if you do not agree with the democratic platform, even if you do not agree with everything
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democrats have to say and what they advocate for, you realize what donald trump is trying to do, and that's divide the country. i think what people have seen over the past several years is that we cannot afford to be divided on issues like race and some of the rhetoric we've seen come from this white house. so i say to the president, take your best shot. i think this will backfire, not only for him and his reelection, but also some down-ballot races next year. >> i completely disagree with the political life support. having come out of the field, it's astonishing how strong the support is for the president. they like what he's doing. and basically they will tolerate the turbulence for the end result, meaning they like the stronger economy. they like the focus on immigration and particularly border enforcement. both republicans and democrats have not been able to get anything done on that. they like some of the things that's doing with judge, deregulation, on and on. more importantly, especially on the international front, the strong put america first. from a simplistic standpoint,
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they like the standing strong and what that means. they feel it's putting pressure on republicans to take action on some things they didn't want to do before, and china is a perfect example. >> brennan: dan, you had a sharp piece this week where you wrote, questioned the president has little understanding of what it means to govern. he would rather tweet from the bleachers." what were you thinking of when you wrote that? >> well, watching everything that happened over the past week, the huge decline in the stock market, which is a broader indication of the nervousness about the economy. the questions about the trade war. what happened in israel. all of these things, and yet the president of the united states was tweeting all kinds of things which seemed not to be particularly helpful other than complexities governing are
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things that he doesn't want tat, that he's much happier being a commentator, if you will. he did a tweet saying that president xi of china should sit down with the protest, and then everything would come out fine. no that's not how china works. >> not exactly how china works some it's this question of why does he feel the need to do that and what does it say about him? now, i don't underestimate his political skills or his resilience or the degree to which his base remains very, very solid. but he will need more than the base that elected him in order to win this election. he's doing a couple of things. he is trying to run another campaign in which he will divide the country. he's doing everything he can to paint the democrats as way far to the left and to knock down whoever becomes the nominee with a very broad brush.arh he's got on his plate, and he doesn't
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seem to be addressing those in a constructive way right now. >> margaret, here's what republicans seem to forget. the fact of the matter is the president, unlike 16, now has a record that he has to stand for or stand on. what most people will agree with, he has failed the american people in policy. and as a result, democrats were able to beat republicans like a drum in the midterm election in places where he was successful in 2016. like in the rust bullet. the reality is the republicans, led by trump have, failed on the major issues. i'm in the disagreeing the economy is not important, but what's on the hearts and minds of people consistently has been health care. and that's where the republicans have failed. they have not had a plan, and as a result i think this is where the democrats will have a leg up mpg and when you think about the economy, this economy has worked for some, but it has failed others, particularly working-class americans that the president attracted in 2016. i think that is our opportunity if we do our work. >> brennan: leslie, i want to get to you on that, because you had the president's trade
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adviser here saying there is nothing wrong with the economy, everything is going well and everyone isereting this, including people in the market. >> well, you don't want to put a lot of worries out when you're talking about the economy. but i think to the earlier point i made, it's not just the economy ha that has to be strong. it's people's confidence in their own personal financial security. those two are at cross pressures right now. the thing we trump we have to remember is his high and low, people think about favorability like traditional historically we look at a reelection favorable. you can't look at that with this president. it's been flat. it hasn't had highs or lows. he's pretty much donald trump. if you take it the way it is. you hold the nose. a lot of republicans reminded me in the last couple of weeks that they did not vote for donald trump. they voted against hillary clinton. when they look at the alternatives and the people that you're talking about who won in 2018, those were centrist democrats running on health care, pro military, former service people, that stood very strong in competitive areas.
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you don't see that in terms of who is running for the national ticket today. that's going the line up. >> brennan: terms of telegraphing concern, president trump almost every single day this week sent at least one tweet about china. nancy, what is happening in terms of the trade negotiations, and what we're seeing play out in hong kong? >> so in hong kong, it was fascinating week because it was quite dramatic. we saw an increase of violence by the protesters, by police, increasing tension by china, most notably by moving troops on to the border. and by the end of the week we saw an effort at deescalation we those on the streets to move it toward more peaceful. we saw the hong kong police say we don't need help from china. and so there was an effort to sort of reset on the streets. political we haven't seen it, though, the chief executive had a press conference in which she wouldn't say whether she had autonomy over whether to withdraw the extradition law that sparked this 11 weeks ago. and so what we're seeing is an effort to calm things down on the street.
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solution that is the only way towed this. so you're seeing somewhat of a reset. but there is no path toward a long term solution. so today, protesters came back. what they were really signals is we're still here. the public outages, we haven't given up despite the rough week we had, we're preparing to reset, we're prepared to keep going in the absence of a political plan. >> brennan: dan, you hear the president take a hard line on trade with china. he's been pretty restrained on human rights issues and hong kong. how do you balance those things? >> brennan: that's been a consistent part of his national security and foreign poll search he's been soft on the issue of human rights all along. there is a belief that he is going soft on that because he doesn't want to upset the chinese leadership in order to get a trade deal, but that trade deal continues to ee. >>nnanks all o you. you. we'll beht back.o
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