captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: it's sunday, september 15th, i am margaret brennan from the nation's capitol and this is "face thecc: nation". >> a terror attack at a saudi oil processing facility disrupts the world's oil production, likely to cause a spike in gas prices. secretary of state mike pompeo blames iran for the attack. will that make tense relations even worse? >> the house will be in order. >> congress returns from its summer recess with dozens more democrats in the house now backing an impeachment inquiry will cautious leaders change course. if we have to go there, we will have to go there. >> the trump administration scores a victory in the court with its deportation policy.

what will the impact be? we will talk with two key democrats this the house, intelligence committee chairman adam schiff and freshman congresswoman ilhan omar, her criticism of israel has caused dissension in her own party and drawn attacks from president trump. can, ken cuccinelli the acting head of the agency that administers the trump's administration immigration system will also be here. plus we sat down with former secretary of state condoleezza rice to get her thoughts on mr. trump's world view and device siives in the country today. >> divisiveness in the country. >> it is stop to quit labeling each other and say he or she is a racist. when you say that, it is meant to stop the conversation and we need to have a conversation. >> brennan: question will also talk with u.n. ambassador during the obama administration, samantha power. and as contracts news kicks off the special network series, eye on earth, we will take take a t our changing climate, a new survey out this morning shows that most americans think

climate change is serious and needs to be addressed now. it is all ahead on "face the nation". .. >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation" from our studio on the roof of the jones day law firm here on capitol hill are we will be broadcasting for the next few weeks while our washington studio gets some adjustments. we begin this morning with the chairman of the house intelligence committee, california's adam schiff, good morning, good to have you here, chairman. good morning. >> brennan: we saw this attack that secretary of state pompeo says was a terror attack carried out by iran in saudi arabia. what does u.s. intelligence show? >> well, i have not had the briefing yet on whether this is directly attributable to iran, but i think it is safe to say that the huh thinks don't have the capability to do a hugh tries don't have a ability the do a strike without iran's

assistance. so iran's technology was certainly involved whether the iranians directly engaged the this 0 or through the houthi proxies is yet to be seen but i think .. it underscores just what we really frankly came to expect from this unending war in yemen, it would escalate tensions in the region, but also withdraw from the jopc. >> brennan: the nuclear deal with iran? >> exactly, led iran to engage in these escala toir tactics to drive us apart from our allies but also to increase iranian leverage to try to bring about an end to sanctions. >> brennan: do you think the president should withdraw his offer to sit down and begin talks with iran? >> i think the president should engage in diplomacy with iran, i think it is the only way out of this situation. i don't think frankly the president should have withdrawn from nuclear deal that iran was complying with, but we need to work with our allies to secure the investigate or hormuz, to secure critical infrastructure in the region but we need to get

back to diplomacy and there are openings to do so. there are voices within iran, unusual voices, including some the administration should seize that opportunity. >> brennan: we also heard from the white house yesterday that they confirmed, the son of osama bin laden was killed in afghanistan, pakistan area. this was originally reported back in july. you have been briefed, what can you tell us? >> well, he has been killed, good riddance, i think this is someone of great symbolic value to al qaeda. >> brennan: how was he killed? >> i can't go into the specifics more than what the white house has disclosed. but it shows they have acknowledged that this was an impact region. it shows the continuing importance of that region to al qaeda, it also shows the importance of the region to us in terms of our security that we need to maintain some footprint or some guarantee that al qaeda won't resurge in the area. but he was not, i think a

leader, current leader of al qaeda, an in the operational sense, so i think if his name'tt bthsame impact but terms of taking more of the leadership of al qaeda. >> brennan: the president continued negotiating with the taliban. >> the president should, wrong th planned, ill prepared summit, and it falling apart. at the end of the day there is only going to be one way to resolve the conflict in afghanistan and that's through the negotiation. but we should secure more than taliban promises in that negotiation in exchange for a drawdown of american troops, we have to inassist on at least a partial cease-fire so we can see that the taliban are both willing but also able to control their own elements. >> brennan: i want to ask you about some work you are doing here at home which was, you issued a subpoena on friday for the acting director of intelligence raw -- alleging he is withholding whistleblower

disclosure possibly to protect president trump, that's a pretty significant allegation here. we are putting up a quote on the screen from you. have you gotten a response to this letter? >> we have gotten a response and i believe that she answering to a higher authority. and refusing to turn over the whistleblower complaint. this is deeply troubling. no -- >> brennan: just ignoring a subpoena? >> well, at this point, yes. ignoring the subpoena, ignoring our -- a request. no dni, no director of national intelligence has ever refused to turn over whistleblower complaint and here, margaret, the significance is the inspector general found this complaint to be urgent, found it to be credible, that is they did some preliminary investigation, found the whistleblower to be credible. that suggests corroboration. and that involved serious or flagrant wrongdoing .. and according to the director of national intelligence the reason he is not acting to provide it, even though the statute mandates he do so is because he is being

instructed not to. and that this involved a highere dni, well there are only a few people above the dni, so we are concerned this involves wrongdoing that is under investigation by our committee and we are going to do everything necessary to make sure that whistleblower is not allowed to provide the complaint to us, nt this point. >> brennan: you don't know but you suspect the president has some role or the executive branch here. can you tell us what the subject was of the whistleblower complaint? >> i can't go into the contents, but i can tell you that at least according to the director of the national intelligence this involves an issue of privileged communications, now, that means it is a pretty narrow group of people that it could apply to. that are both above the dni in authority and also involve privileged communication. so i think it is fair to assume this involves either the president or people around him or both. but at the end of the day, if the director of national intelligence is going to

undermine the whistleblower protections, it means that people are going to end up tabling the law into their own hands and going directly to the press instead of the mechanism that congress set to protectndt gravely threatens bo national security as well as a system that encourages people to expose wrongdoing. >> brennan: your leadership, there seems to be confusion within the democratic party actually an impeachment inquiry underway. can you clarify? >> yes. we are doing an investigation that will ultimately determine whether the president should be impeached. now, there are people -- >> brennan: so there is an inquiry underway? >> there is certainly an investigation underway, now, this is more than just message. there are some of our members who are ready to vote to impeach and remove the president tomorrow and there are some who believe that we should not impeach him because it will be a failed in the senate. but the vast majority of our caucus, including our leadership is of the view that we should do

the investigation before we determine whether the president should be impeached. that's the contact that i fit in and that's the work that we are doing. and that's all that is required in court to get access to the grand jury material we need to do our jobs. >> brennan: we have to leave it there. congressman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> brennan: well, one democrat who has called for the president to be impeached and did so early on was minnesota democratic congreman iln omarshe me to thes a refugee and she the first somali american to be elected to congress. as part of the so-called squad she has drawn a considerable amount of attention for her progressive and sometimes controversial views and welcome her here to the broadcast. congresswoman it is good to have you here. >> thank you so much for having me. >> brennan: you heard what chairman schiff said and we know more than half of the democratic caucus supports impeachment now. you are among them. do you think speaker pelosi is being too hesitant? >> well, what i have always said was that it wasn't if we were going to impeach, it is when we

were going to impeach and i think it is okay for some people to have hesitations, for other people to catch up to where some of us have been for a really long time and i think with chairman nadler, he understands that, you know, we have a constitutional duty and we must that constitutional. >> brennan: do you think, though, because of the here is numbers now, i think 136 democrats to support a imimpeachment inquiry at least are we at a tipping point where those decisions need to be made? >> yes. and the decisions are being made, this is why they took the vote to begin the investigation, and i really feel confident that they are in the process of getting everybody else who is still lagging to come along. >> brennan: now, we said in the introduction you are controversial. the republican national committee released a video of

you and i want to read you just some of it. you are comparing migrant shelters to dungeons used about 400 years ago sn ghana that you recently visited. and you toured those caves in ghana recently. it is getting a lot of attention. did you mean when you were talking there to compare u.s. border agents to slave traders? >> so i am only controversial because people seem to want to controversy. what i talked about at our panel that was the plight of black immigrants was about the experience i was having as i went through the dungeons. there were stories that were being told and i talked about how at that moment i had an image of what is happening in libya as people are being sold. we have all seen that video, that auction of somebody being sold for $400.

and then i talked about the separation stories that he told about how families were being torn apart, how children were being separated from their parents, how husband and wife would be forcefully separated. and i said that kind of reminded me of what was happening at our border here. >> brennan: but you didn't mean it as an attack on u.s. border agents? >> absolutely not. i think this is always the point, right? there is always an implied intent to every conversation i have, and if you listen to the video one compare, comparison of what the dungeons looked like and people being sold was to at -- to what was happening in north africa and the other one was a family separations and of course we obviously have a crisis here with our families separation policy. >> brennan: you feel very passionately about immigration. you came to this country as a refugee. >> i did. >> brennan: the trump administration had a victory in the courts this week because at

least temporarily they are upholding the ability of the administration to put into place new restrictions on the ability to claim asylum here. > >> i believe that decision is morally and legally wrong, seeking asylum is a legal right that people have and you know that the supreme court has been wrong before. they have been wrong in the equal but separate doctrine decision, and they have been wrong in the dred scott dis, and so what we now have an opportunity to do as legislators is make sure that we are creating immigration policy that is humane and just. >> brennan: well, the trump administration say they have to go and implement these regulations, that their hands are being tied because congress just isn't doing its job. >> right. >> brennan:. >> we certainly in the house have been doing our jobs since the first day we got there. >> brennan: is asylum rights as you argue need to be more specifically laid out?

are you working on something like that? >> yeah. we are with trying to make sure that we fix our broken immigration system. i mean, people have to understand that the immigration crisis that we have is one that we could avoid, and many of the policies that we have been advocating for, many that are currently sitting at the doorsteps of mitch mcconnell will create a positive impact on how our immigration system is carried out. >> brennan: this was the anniversary this week, the 18th of the 9/11 attacks on our country. and out of ground zero -- well, at the remembrance ceremony the son of one of the victims stood up and specifically called out language you had used in the past that he characterized as not respectful when referring to the 3,000 people who were killed by al qaeda. you said some people did something and you put it right there on his t-shirt, do you

understand why people found that offensive? >> so 9/11 was an attack on all americans. it was an attack on all of us and i certainly could not understand the weight of the pain that the victims of the appeals of 9/11 must feel, but i think it is really important for us to make sure that we are not for getting the aftermath of what happened after 9/11. many americans found themselves now having their civil rights stripped from them, and so what i was speaking to was the fact that as a muslim, not only was i suffering as an american who was attacked on that day, but the next day i woke up as my fellow americans were now treating me as a suspect. >> brennan: do you -- do you feel like it has been tough for

you here in washington to change your rhetoric, to be less of an activist and try to be a legislator? that sometimes the language you use has gotten in your own way? >> i certainly don't think that. you know, when we were sell celebrating a few nights ago i talked about how some people will say ilhan you should speak a certain way, ilhan, you should do something a certain way and i think that is contradictory really to the purpose of my existence in this space. i believe that my constituents send me to make sure i was bringing in a conversation that others weren't having, that i was speaking for people who felt voice less for a long time, and i think it is really important for us to recognize that it is a new congress. it is a diverse congress and we are not only diverse in our race or ethnicity or religion but also diverse in our perspective and our pain and our struggles, and in the hopes and dreams that

we have and the kind of american that, america that we want to shape for all of us. >> brennan: you were specifically banned by the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu from visiting that country. he faced a very tough election in the next few days. if he doesn't win are you going to try to go back and do you stand by your call for a boycott of israel? >> i certainly hope that the people of israel make a different decision and my hope is that they recognize that his existence, his policies, his rhetoric really is contradictory to the peace that we are all hoping for the region to see and see soon. just right now if you look at the annexation that is taking place for many of us in congress, it has been a longstanding support for a

two-state solution, and this annexation now is going to make sure that that peace process does not happen and we will not get to a two-state solution. i think what is really important is for people to understand that you have to give people the opportunity to seek the kind of justice they want in a peaceful way and i think the opportunity to boycott, divest, sanction is the kind of the pressure that leads to that peaceful process. >> brennan: congresswoman, thank you for coming here to "face the nation". >> thank you so much for having me. >> brennan: we will be back in one minute with the administration's point person on legal immigration. stay with us. >>

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>> good to be with you. >> brennan: you were obviously directly impacted at your agency be at this supreme court decision. >> absolutely. >> brennan: to uphold the ability to enforce these new restrictions on being able to claim asylum. what is the practical impact on the ground and when will it be felt? >> so it is already being felt. it wasn't from zero to 100 as soon as the supreme court ruled. we didn't know their typing, but i can tell you that i spoke with mark morgan and matt al bins the head of the other two immigration agencies on friday and we will be working closely with the department of just where the immigration judges sit and we are ramping this up ass . we will do it in the places where we have the logistics in place fastest first and then move it all the way across the border, but this will be measured in days, not weeks. >> brennan: so to explain, this restrict the ability of people to claim asylum if they haven't first tried to claim asylum and been denied in a country they were passing through. >> that's right. >> brennan: on route to the

united states. but claiming asylum is the legal channel of asylum, so of trying to imgreat so if you are cutting off that legal channel, aren't you just going to push people towards illegal immigration? >> well, most of the people asyl on th souern border are ng in illegally already. deylhey a going if they arecrosl through the legal channel, if they are declaring themselves to a border patrol officer. >> right. so we have different rules in different places i don't think a lot of people realize this but the northern border we have an agreement with canada where you can claim asylum in either canada or the united states but not both under any circumstances, it is actually a more restrictive arrangement than we have now on the southern border, so the circumstances that we face on our southern border are still crisis circumstances and we have a 335,000 asylum case backlog which i take very seriously, and it has creeped up while i have

been here, despite us throwing more and more resources at trying to drive it down. there are legitimate asylum claims in there. some of them have been waiting over two years. and we take very seously to ge tohose peounfortately, ts d where theith of.>>r justid se controversy is, not just around the legality but the morality of it, i mean, ronald reagan talked about this country as a shining city on the hill, and you are building a big moat around it. >> well, that's not thousand we view it, obviously, but i mean, at the same time, my agency is, you know, creating more citizens than you have seen in years. we have five-year high lastier and break that again this year. >> brennan: but this is tens of thousands of people who will not be able to claim asylum. >> oh okay you just described us as trying to build a moat and i

am point now the legal process we are moving along at a good clip, we have a crisis at the southern border and this is one of the many responses we had, the president has been very clear about the need to be aggressive on the border and that's exactly what we are doing. >> brennan: so are you essentially arguing that this is going to be a deterrent where people won't even try to come? because claiming asylum is a legal means of immigration. >> i understand and your point is an excellent one, it will be a deterrent for some people, particularly those who were going to be coming and claiming what are clearly false asylum claims, people, and remember, asylum is about safety, we do want people to be safe. and the reality is, america is the most generous country in the world on this front, but we have to deal with the crisis we are facing down there. this will be a deterrent to some coming that are making false claims. >> brennan: very quickly on that note, the was slammed for the horrific hurricane, bahamas. >> yes. >> brennan: why make it harder

for people to flee to this country, this past monday by now requiring visas? a lot of food reasons people wouldn't have their paperwork. >> well, cpp ex-extended it is toafl out to the bahamas, i don't ever remember them doing before, we are actually making this a lot more accommodations so realize that the northern two islands were hit, grand wit baha as the electricity and basics back, bahamas is a capable country take caring of their own. we rushed resource this is whether usaid or the coast guard who were with down right heroic in there and border patrol assets were moved in there as well to make hundreds of saves. >> brennan: i am appreciate you saying that, i am out of time so i have to leave it there, unfortunately we will be there, unfortunately we will be right back. >> every new job. and attempt to parallel park. ribuin (typing clicks)

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