his family. he loves watching us. >> hi, daniel. >> we appreciate that view. look at that beautiful good morning to you, our viewers in the west, and welcome to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king with anthony mason and tony dokoupil. democrats' fiery debate. candidates unite behind impeachment, divide over health care, and target front-runner elizabeth warren. shocking white house meeting. the parents of harry dunn meet with president trump. only on "cbs this morning," why they refused the surprise meeting with the woman responsible for their son's death. >> we are still willing to meet her,t needs to be on uk soil. risky therapy. cbs news investigates clinics promoting hormone treatments for healthy patients, creating

potelldangous problems. and paul rudd in studio 57. how he searches for a better life in his newest role and ends up living with a happier version of himself. >> how do you do that?'s esday, october 16th, 2019. here's today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. i want to give a reality check here to elizabeth. >> she has yet to describe her tax plan. >> your signature, senator, is to have a plan for everything, except this. >> warren's rivals pile on. >> i went on the floor and got you votes. i got votes for that bill. i convinced people to vote for it. >> i am deeply grateful to president obama. nancy pelosi is holding off on a vote to authorize a formal impeachment inquiry. >> this as rudy giuliani refuses to comply with a subpoena. >> this is not a game for us. mike pence and secretary of state mike pompeo head to turkey today. >> the turkish president is saying he is not worried about sanctions. pro-democracy hong kong

demonstrators trample and burn the jersey of lebron james after he made comments they say are against their fight. >> i help my teammates on continuing to help on something that's going to benefit us. an explosion sparked a massive fire at a refinery in california. >> ordered thousands to stay indoors. >> all that -- you better get it, girl. >> a 16-year-old working it at her high school football game in atlanta. >> and all that matters. 12 candidates crowded the stage for the largest presidential primary debate in u.s. history. >> candidates are supposed to multiply as the debates go on. so, please, america, please remember to have your candidate spayed or neutered. we can't handle any more. >> announcer: on "cbs this morning." >> here's the pitch, the fastball is hit into the air to left-center field, and he makes the catch! he makes the catch! bang! the fireworks! the national league championship

winning "w" is in the books! and for the first time since 1933, we'll have a world series in the nation's capital! unbelievable! >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" is presented by toyota. let's go places. >> #bliss. we'll talk about that later. i like trevor noah's take on spaying or neutering. that's a new way to look at it. >> yes. >> way to go, trevor. he's got a good point. welcome to "cbs this morning." we begin with this, the biggest presidential debate sparked divisions amongst the democratic presidential hopefuls as candidates took aim at the newest front-runner. it often seemed like it was eleven against one. senator warren, the rising candidate in the polls, faced most of the questions from the others on the stage last night. >> warren's opponents challenged her on everything from her health care plan to her proposed tax on wealth. they also had a lot to say about president trump. ed o'keefe filed this report earlier from outside the debate

site in westerville, ohio. >> reporter: well, good morning, anthony. it was the fourth round of debates in the democratic presidential primary, but the first stood against the backdrop of impeachment. and on that issue, there was near universal agreement. >> donald trump needs to be held accountable. >> trump is the most corrupt president in the history of this country. >> i started the need to impeach movement -- >> reporter: all 12 candidates in agreement on one topic, impeaching president trump. >> i swore an oath to do my job as a senator, do my duty. this president has violated his. i will do mine. >> reporter: and former vice president joe biden tried once again to move the discussion away from his son, hunter, and his work in ukraine. >> my son did nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong. >> reporter: but it was massachusetts senator elizabeth warren who has been rising in the polls and became a new target. >> sometimes i think that senator warren is more focused on being punitive or pitting some part of the country against

the other. >> reporter: she was hit on her plan for a wealthax. >> the problem is that it's been tried in germany, france, denmark, sweden, and all of those countries ended up repealing it. >> reporter: and for once again refusing to say whether her health care plan would raise taxes on the middle class. >> your signature, senator, is to have a plan for everything, except this. >> medicare for all is the gold standard. we can pay for this. i've laid out the basic principles. costs are going to go up for the wealthy. they're going to go up for big corporations. they will not go up for middle-class families. >> at the end of the day, the overwhelming majority of people will save money on their health care bills. but i do think it is appropriate to acknowledge that taxes will go up. >> at leastbern's being honest here and saying how he's going to pay for this and that taxes are going to go up. and i'm sorry, elizabeth, but you have not said that. >> everyone also agreed, the president's troop withdrawal from syria was a mistake. >> you have an erratic, crazy

president who knows not a damn thing about foreign policy. >> think about how absurd it is that this president is caging kids on the border and effectively letting isis prisoners run free. >> reporter: but they disagreed over how long u.s. troops should remain. >> you would continue to support having u.s. troops in syria for an indefinite period of time. >> you can put an end to endless war without embracing donald trump's policies -- >> will you end the regime change war is the question? >> what we're doing or what we were doing in syria was keeping our word. >> reporter: meanwhile, the night ended with big news from bernie sanders who earned the endorsement of two well-known liberals, minnesota congresswoman ilhan omar announced that she's backing his presidential bid, and cbs news has learned that new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez is set to endorse sanders on saturday. that's a big get for him considering that she has a wide national following and was also hotly pursued by senator warren. anthony? >> thank you.

major garrett is with us this morning. good morning. >> good morning. >> warren was suddenly the target and the center of everything last night. how did she handle being the front-runner? >> with poise, passion, and on medicare for all, evasion. she's made a tactical decision that she doesn't need to answer this tax question, that her supporters are going to stick with her and that she can ride this out. >> is that the right decision? >> we will find out. voters will tell us about this, but she had every opportunity last night to just say what bernie sanders had said -- keep the gap between them as narrow as possible. she didn't. she's tactically decided, this is not going to make or break her campaign. she's going to stick with the approach she's had. historically, she's been very successful. she has without a doubt one the most disciplined and effective campaign so far. she has not only taken over the progressive lane, she's become the most leading candidate in this, and you saw last night, when you're getting all the incoming, you know you're at the top of the heap. >> this was joe biden's first debate since questions about his son's role in ukraine. he's now kind of co-front remember runner. did he respond to the criticisms

of his son overseas effectively? >> there was a simple question put to the former vice president. you put out a statement sunday that no one in your family if elected can be on any boards. if it is not okay when you're president, why was it not okay when you were vice president? he evaded that answer just like elizabeth warren evaded the question about taxes for medicaid for all. if he thinks this question's going to go away, he might be right for the primaries. maybe the democrats won't harangue him on this. i know someone who will, the president of the united states. >> that's right. >> you'd better come up with an answer. >> well, they have time for that, for sure. bernie sanders certainly didn't evade anything. this is the first time we've seen him since his heart attack and everybody was watching. supporters, can they walk away saying bernie's still got it. >> i think so. his performance last night was solid and recognizable in every sense. no hint at all that he had had this health scare. and i think it's interesting to note that these endorsements will try to reset the campaign, put some new energy and life into it, in the sense that --

>> you've got aoc's endorsement. >> yes, which is interesting, because in 2016, he was not the candidate who sought or thought endorsements were important. her name was hillary clinton. but now he's playing the endorsement game because he needs someone on the outside to say this campaign is still viable and has energy. that's an important reset. >> what about the lower end of the candidate spectrum? anyone stand out in -- >> so, i said before here that i think geographically positioned, amy klobuchar has the best opportunity to be that alternative in iowa, if democratic voters are looking for an alternative. she used her time well last night, effective, aggressive, and also, i think you've got to look at andrew yang and pete buttigieg. again, there were these deserts camera for long stretches.not o- this debate desert when you have 12 people -- >> so many people out there. >> -- and three hours. but pete buttigieg and andrew yang, once they got the mics, used their time very effectively. >> going to need a wider angle on that stage. major garrett, thank you very much. we'll see if any of this moves the polls. >> more spaying and neutering. meanwhile in washington, house democrats say they're

rejecting republican pressure to formally authorize their impeachment inquiry. speaker nancy pelosi said last night that investigators will keep working to find what she calls a path to the truth. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, the list of officials who are not cooperating with this inquiry seems to be growing. >> reporter: yes. you've now got the department of defense, the vice president, mike pence, and the president's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, all ignoring congressional deadlines to hand over documents. they essentially say they won't comply with what they view as an illegitimate investigation, and they want a voteinquiry. but for now, they're not going to get one. >> at this time we will not be having a vote. >> reporter: after meeting with democratic leaders, house speaker nancy pe annoued her decision has not changed and a vote is not required. >> the white house says it's not cooperating in part because there's not been a vote to formalize the impeachment

inquiry. why not hold the vote and call the white house's bluff? >> we're not here to call bluffs. we're here to find the truth to uphold the constitution of the united states. this is not a game for us. >> reporter: there was more dramatic testimony tuesday, this time from deputy assistant secretary of state george kent, who says he was told to lay low after he complained that rudy giuliani's efforts in ukraine were undermining u.s. foreign policy. texts and emails indicate giuliani and two u.s. diplomats, kurt volker and gordon sondland, urged ukrainian officials to investigate mr. trump's campaign rival, joe biden, and his son, a message the president reiterated in a july phone call with his ukrainian counterpart. >> we have learned that call was not an isolation. there was a great deal of eparatory work that was done before the call. >> reporter: kent told lawmakers he was instructed to leave ukraine policy to the so-called three amigos, volker, sondland, and secretary of energy rick perry. with evidence mounting,

republicans have dialed back their defense of the president. >> here's a news flash -- president trump is not geniuses. >> reporter: instead, they're taking aim at the inquiry itself, blasting it as unfair. >> this is a kangaroo court at best right now. >> reporter: lawmakers are going to hear today from michael mckinley, a former top adviser to pompeo. he served in the state department for 37 years but resigned last week. >> nancy, thank you. today a bipartisan group of congressional leaders will go to the white house to discuss the crisis in syria caused by turkey's invasion. new video shows turkish artillery firing on kurds in syria. vice president mike pence is heading to the region to press for a cease-fire as turkey's president gave kurdish fighters a deadline of tonight to leave a designated area along the border. charlie d'agata, who's near the conflict zone in neighboring

iraq shows us russia's growing role. >> reporter: well, the vice president may be headed to turkey, but president erdogan has already said we will never declare a cease-fire. one person he is speaking to, russian president vladimir putin, another indication of russia's lead role on and off the battlefield. it's not just syrian regime forces carving up kurdish territory. the flags on those military vehicles are russian, and it's president putin who now ultimately controls the flashpoint city of manbij, an area once dominated by u.s. forces and their kurdish allies. reporters from russian tv channels were seen mocking america in a show-and-tell of the abandoned u.s. military base there. mess halls with food trays, stocked refrigerators, footballs, half-eaten doughnuts, suggesting the troops left in a hurry.

cbs news has learned that u.s. forces across northeast syria have retreated to larger bases like kobani to begin air-lifting heavy equipment, but it's a risky operation. when turkish-backed militias, extremists made up of former al qaeda and isis fighters, came too close to an american unit, the u.s. responded with a show of force. apache helicopters like this buzzing in low to deter the fighters from advancing any further. as the war zone widens, civilians escaping the violence are running out of places to hide, with many now passing into neighboring iraq. russian tv is reporting today that syrian forces had taken control of bases left behind by u.s. troops. now, we've seen our share of bases like manbij. usually almost everything is packed away, but that looked like a place frozen in time. >> thank you, charlie. the british parents of a young man killed in a traffic

accident declined to meet with an american woman responsible for the crash. charlotte charles and tim dunn met president trump at the white house yesterday. they rejected his surprise offer to meete sacoolas, who was waiting nearby. she left the country after the crash, claiming diplomatic immunity. the crash killed harry dunn. his parents say president trump did not seem responsive to their request to have sacoolas return to the uk to face justice. charlotte charles and tim dunn will be here next hour to tell us about that meeting with the president and why they decided not to meet anne sacoolas in person, an interview only on "cbs this morning." now to hong kong where embattled leader carrie lam was shouted down as she tried to deliver an important annual speech. [ speaking foreign language ] >> that chaotic scene follows controversial comments by nba

star lebron james, who appeared to support china, rather than pro-democracy demonstrators. his remarks outraged protesters who are also punishing brands that appear to take china's side. ramie ino sensa is in hong kong. how are protesters showing their anger? >> reporter: good morning. whether it's the nba or u.s. companies like starbucks, businesses basically have to toe this fine line between principles as well as profits. a case in point, the starbucks right behind me has been vandalized over and over and over again. that's because the hong kong franchise owner has condemned these pro-democracy protests. bottom line, really, though, is that all roads lead to china and all rage leads to china, too. the anger was swift. lebron james, a beloved athlete in hong kong, was now the target. protesters here burned and trampled his jerseys. but back home, james stood tall and doubled down.

>> you know, if you feel passionate about it, talk about it. if you're not -- if you don't have a lot of knowledge about it or you don't quite understand it, i don't think you should talk about it. >> reporter: lebron, famous for speaking up for the disadvantaged, controversially challenged houston rockets general manager daryl morey's tweet in support of the hong kong protesters, seemingly affecting lebron's and the league's bottom line. evan osnos is a staff writer for "new yorker" magazine. >> and he made the choice that he had to say something, and there wasn't a whole lot of things that he could have said, but this was clearly not the thing that lived up to the image that he has carved out for himself and that people hold him to. >> reporter: lebron james' net worth of roughly $450 million nearly compares to a large corporation and a large portion of that revenue can be linked to china. the nba says the country's pro basketball fans are more than double the population of the united states. and for james, that's too big a

market to ignore. >> lebron is a unique figure in that world. and so, for him, he risks in his mind not only hurting potentially the league, but also hurting his own significant profile there. >> reporter: besides the nba, protesters here may also be targeting other u.s. companies. that includes apple as well as with mcdonald's. now, with the iphone maker, that's because the company pulled an app on its chinese app store that could let protesters here basically find, target, and avoid the hong kong police. and as with mcdonald's, get this, the company here is majority owned by a chinese company. anthony. >> ramy, thank you. tens of millions of americans are bracing for a nasty nor'easter today into tomorrow. 2 to 6 inches of rain could cause flash flooding from delaware to maine. the new england coast could see

wind gusts topping 60 miles an hour. mountains from upstate new york to new hampshire could even get a dusting of snow. the heaviest rain is expected tomorrow in upstate new york and parts of new england. a cbs news investigation uncovered how a popular hormone therapy promoted as a fountain of youth could actually be dangerous to your health. >> he didn't say that there's a possible risk of heart disease? >> no, sir. >> stroke? >> no, sir. >> no problems whatsoever were discussed? >> no, sir. >> ahead, one patient tells us why he believes it caused him to have a stroke at the good wednesday morning to you. it is definitely a chilly start to the day as we head through the afternoon. cool, cloudy, ahead of a cold front. 72 concord. 71 san jose. 67 oakland and 63 for san francisco. so a weak cold front pushes through tonight and that will bring the chance for a few showers especially in the north bay tonight, overnight and into early tomorrow morning. we are looking at maybe just

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it's 7:30. here's what's happinon "cbs this morning." >> this will not take very long. donald trump needs to be held accountable. >> 12 democratic candidates debates, agreeing on impeachment while questioning the new front-runner. >> i've got votes for that bill. i convinced people. >> your signature, senator, is to have a plan for everything except this. >> we put the strongest sanctions that you can imagine -- >> president trump tries to contain turkey's assault in northern syria while russia's army fills a void left by u.s. troops. u.s. lawmakers support protesters in hong kong where lebron james' comments on china cause anger. >> he's one of the greatest of all time.

but he's not a hero. salesforce co-fonder mark benioff tells us about why he wrote a book about leading by example. >> people have equal opportunity, advancement. 60% of the time it works every time. >> and actor paul rudd will be at the table. he's got a new netflix series. he becomes his own worst enemy. >> you're a monster. dr. jekyll. >> he was the sane one. you mean mr. hyde. you should pick up a book sometime. ♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." it is funny. i'm gayle king with anthony mason and tony dokoupil. only on "cbs this morning," the parents of a young british man killed in a traffic accident caused by an american woman explain why they felt ambushed during their meeting with president trump at the white house. charlotte charles and tim dunn met the president yesterday at the white house, and they discussed justice for their son but declined to meet with anne sacoolas, waiting in a nearby room. she's reportedly the wife of at

american intelligence officer. we spoke to dunn's parents this morning in their first tv, u.s. tv interview, since the white house meeting. welcome, charlotte and tim. it's good to have you back. first, tell us how did this meeting come about? did they reach out to you? did you reach out? give us the details. >> we were in the process of doing another interview in new york. and our spokesperson had a phone call from the white house extending an invitation for us to get there as soon as possible. >> to meet with who? >> a senior official. that's all we knew. we had no idea who it was. certainly didn't think for a second it would be president trump. >> did they tell you that anne sacoolas would be in the white house? >> no. >> no. >> that came as a complete shock. >> you walked into the room, you're shocked to see the president there. then shocked to learn that anne sacoolas is in the next room? >> yeah. he said she was in the building. but the room next to us was

being highly guarded. >> what was said? you walk in and he says what, you say what? >> he offered his condolences. he seemed warm, and he was welcoming which was nice. >> yeah. >> it didn't take long for him to then drop into the conversation that anne sacoolas was in the building. >> how did you feel when he said that? >> yeah, tim, what were you thinking? >> you know, honestly, we just had discussed it on the train going to washington that we thought it's -- it might happen, we did discuss it might be the president, and we did discuss that maybe anne would be there. we were sort of pre-thinking it. but it was still quite a, you know -- took your breath away when he mentioned it the first time. >> yeah. >> wrong setting. >> tell us why you were bothered. >> you said "wrong setting." >> we've said all along that we are willing to meet her, we are still willing to meet her, and -- but it needs to be on u.k.

soil. you know, and with therapists and mediators, and that's not just for us. that's for her, as well. you know, she's traumatized. her children are traumatized. >> yes. >> to be thrown into a room together with no prior warning, that's not good for her mental health, it's certainly not good for ours. we've got locked in for seven weeks. none of us know how we're going to react. >> did you feel pressure in this meeting? >> he did ask two or three times, he did mention two or three times by said no, we didn't think it was right. he said again, you know, she's here, so let's get it on -- get some healing, something like that. >> yeah. >> get some healing. >> he said heal it. it would have been pressure, but we stuck to our guns. we feel, you know -- >> charlotte, you grabbed him by the hand. >> uh-huh. >> and what did he say when you talked to him? >> i wasn't holding his -- i didn't have his hand when i was talking to him, but i just explained to him like i have

done since we arrived in new york, you know, if it was his child, he would be doing exactly the same as what we're doing. it's not right -- >> what did he say when you said that? >> he agreed. he absolutely agreed. he -- he was very willing to listen. he sat, didn't interrupt me at all. i just explained that, you know, it's just not right. i had questions -- who allowed her to return to the u.s. >> did you get an answer to that question? >> no. >> what does justice look like ultimately for you? >> ultimately obviously we need her to come back to the u.k. that is still our main game -- main -- you know, game's the wrong way, our main aim. you know, she needs to come back. >> you want her to come back why exactly? i'm sure she's listening to you. >> she needs come back and face the justice system. she needs to do this for herself, for us, she needs do

this for her children, set a good example to her children. you know, she's held her hands up again in a statement saying it was entirely her fault, she made a so stand up to your mistakes. take ownership of them. >> charles, charlotte, tim dunn, we thank you. again, sorry for those circumstances bus appreciate you coming to talk to us. >> thank you. and we should note that anne sacoolas' lawyer told cbs news that anne sacoolas was invited to the white house but she wasn't aware of the circumstances of that meeting. and the family seemed really relieved to hear that, to know that she wasn't behind that kind of what -- they're using the word ambush. they're relieved to know she wasn't behind it. through every step they keep showing compassion toward anne sacoolas. >> they did say the meeting felt surreal. they didn't know what to think. >> and spokesperson for boris johnson says that he supports, the prime minister in the u.k., supports the family's decision not to meet with sacoolsa on the terms yesterday. ahead, our cbs news investigation reveals the potential risks of hormone therapy at some clinics.

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reveals a growing trend at health clinics nationwide that could be putting patients at risk. clinics are selling hormone therapy treatment, some believe provides a fountain of youth. as dr. jon lapook shows us, people are finding out when the dangers of some clinics' practices the hard way. >> i was afraid i was going to die. >> reporter: two years ago, federal corrections officer emmitt landry was taken to a houston, texas, hospital after having a stroke at age 41. >> i was afraid i wasn't going to see my -- my kids again. my family. >> reporter: about a month earlier, landry had been feeling fatigued when co-workers told him about optimum wellness, a clinic in texas that could treat him with hormones. >> i was just looking for something to help me get through the day. >> reporter: at the hospital, doctors tried to figure out why someone so young would have a stroke. >> the only thing they could deduce and think of is that the

testosterone could have caused a clotting. >> reporter: a nurse practitioner prescribed him testosterone, even though his blood levels were normal. with rare exceptions, the endocrine society recommends against testosterone therapy in patients with normal testosterone lels. >> it's almost like a scam. >> reporter: how so? >> they're going to tell you something is wrong with you, and the more people they can get filtered in, lined up like cattle, it's more money for them. >> gain new energy -- >> reporter: our investigation the country prescribing hormones like testosterone to people with normal blood levels. landry says his nurse practitioner only highlighted the benefits. . he didn't say there was no possible risk of heart disease? >> no, sir. >> reporter: stroke? >> no, sir. >> reporter: no problems whatsoever were discussed. >> no, sir. >> reporter: in texas, nurse practitioners are not allowed to prescribe hormones without a doctor's approval. landry's treatment was overseen

by dr. james kern, an ob-gyn in houston, about 100 miles away. excuse me, dr. kern? i'm from cbs news. would you be able to tell me why emmitt landry was prescribed testosterone when he had normal blood hormone levels? >> i don't know anything. >> reporter: in 2017, the optimum clinic was raided by the dea. shortly after that, kern withdrew his supervision. the dea declined to comment. >> i was furious. >> reporter: amy townsend is a doctor in southeast texas. >> on the scene is multiple people that are my friends and my family that are being treated completely inappropriately. >> reporter: she decided to report the clinic to the state nursing board. >> i felt that it was something that needed to be done to protect the community. >> reporter: and did they take action? >> they did not. >> reporter: oversight comes from state medical and nursing boards. cbs news reached out to both sets of boards in all 50 states. of the 95% that responded, only

seven states have both medical and nursing boards who keep track of incidents related to hormone therapy. >> right now this practice of giving testosterone to people, who in your mind shouldn't be getting it, is still going on? >> it's widespread throughout the country. >> they're preying on the fears of everybody growing older. >> reporter: how were you feeling when walked out of the hospital? >> embarrassed. >> reporter: what were you embarrassed about? >> that i went to these physicians looking for help. i had a stroke, and i'm supposed to be taking care of my family. >> reporter: in february, 2018, the nurse practitioner who treated landry lost his license for inappropriately prescribing hormones to landry and others. and in august, the clinic closed its doors for good. >> people have been looking for the fountain of youth for a long time. >> they're not going to find it. they're not going to find it at their corner store clinic. >> landry is suing dr. kern and the nurse practitioner who treated him at the clinic. they've denied landry's allegations. we reached out to dr. kern and the nurse practitioner, but they declined our request for

comment. >> glad that he's talking. >> there is no such thing as the fountain of youth, unfortunately. >> we all want it. we'd love it, but so far, no. >> dr. jon lapook, thank you so much. the story continues tonight on our 24-hour streaming service, that is cbsn, called "fountain of youth: hidden dangers." a half hour special that airs at 8:00 p.m. you can watch it at cbsnews.com or on our cbs news app. ahead, cyntoia brown-long is grab that jacket as you head out the door it's a chilly start. cool and cloudy ahead of a cold front. so a weak cold front pushes through for tonight. it's really going to fall apart. so is a few showers possible as we head through tonight and overnight mainly for the north bay looking at breezy conditions on thursday and cooler a little bit more sun on

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you'll be talking about today. "desperate housewives" star felicity huffman is in a very different role this morning as a real-life prison inmate. the actress reported to a low-security prison in northern california yesterday to serve a two-week sentence for her role in the college admissions scandal. she's spending time at the xci dublin. the prison she will be spending time at. dublin. the prison she will be spending time at. it is regardsed as one of the top ten cushiest prisons "forbes". still jail. she'll perform 250 hours of community service and be fined $30,000. cyntoia brown-long is breaking her silence. she says she was a victim of sex trafficking when she was arrested at the age of 16 for robbing and killing a man she says picked her up for sex. she believe of he was going to kill her. she was sentenced to life in prison, burr her sentence was commute -- but her sentence was commuted by tennessee's governor after she served 15 years. i interviewed cyntoia last night. soy what's the message for -- so what's the message for people

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2019. welcome back to "cbs this morning. i'm gayle king with tony dokoupil and anthony mason. ahead, democratic front-runner elizabeth warren faces a barrage of questions in the fourth presidential debate. how she handled the attacks and which candidates stood out. in "morning rounds," a widow's push for increased awareness of male breast cancer. how she says it could have saved her husband's life. and paul rudd talks with us about his new double role as a troubled man and his much-improved clone. first, here's today's "eye opener" at 8:00. >> the biggest presidential

debate ever exposed sharp divisions among the democratic present hopefuls. >> it was the fourth round of debate but the first set against the backdrop of impeachment. warren was suddenly the target. how did she handle being the front-runner? >> with poise, passion and medicare for all evasion. she doesn't need to answer this question. >> they're not going to comply with an investigation they view as illegitimate. they want a vote formalizing the impeachment inquiry. vice president may be headed to turkey, but president erdogan has already said we will never declare a cease-fire. businesses have to tow a fine line between principles as well as profits. all roads lead to china and all rage leads to china too. > check out this little guy. >> she didn't give you a kiss? she just went to work? >> yeah. >> he's absolutely flabbergasted after his mom left for work

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to - act to making sure that we pass the affordable care act. rdable carw what you also get done, and i say this as a good friend, you got the disastrous ar in iraq done. bangot a bankruptcy bill which s hurting middle-class families all over this country. >> following the financial crash of 2008, i had an idea for a consumer agency that would keep giant banks from cheatin people. >> i went on the floor and got otu votes. i got votes for that bill. >> i am deeply grateful to president obama who fought so hard to make sure that agency as passed into law. >> oh. thanks.. ad tou heard the governor. thanks. all those questions meant that warren had the most speaking time. 3he spoke for more than 23 three-s of the three-hour event. therclosest other candidate was biden who spoke for just under or minutes. tes.bs news political ributor tor deval patrick is the ismer democratic governor of massachusetts, and he joins us governor governor --

>> the man responsible for the ouch. >> yeah. >> protest cold stuff. who had a strong performance last night? manyll, i think it was really senator warren's night in many respects. when she wasn't speaking, the other candidates were speaking about her or about her ideas. todid it feel like 11-1 to you? >> you know, she is a prominent candidate. she's got a lot of ideas and a lot to -- a lot that she's put out sort of to serve as a rt oft. >> she would not say whether >> iddle-class taxes would go up onder her plans. why would she not say that? l, i don't don't know, but my guess is that she's getting some of the advice that democrats often get which is not to let the tax word pass your lips. paseah. i but i have to tell you, i listened to senator sanders talk about paying for medicare for all ludein ways that would include a tax on middle-class citizens, as asl as on the rich. and i listened to senator warren talk about how costs would go how.

they're both right. ththesis is that you spread th this cost around to everybody, t u get a lower cost alternative to -- than private insurance and in that way, everybody's cost costs go down, although you have to put a little in to make that happen. and i suspect that that is true and of senator warren. tingit's enormously frustrating herto have her -- to have her not -- >> the reality -- >> how do you think the former >> fce president handled the questions about his son's business dealings in ukraine? >> well, i feel for him in some in someause i think his hemily's not on the ballot. and when his family, anyone's family, gets pulled in, having to defend their choices and their behavior is always hard. i've had that experience. sly on ay on a smaller scale. i would have expected his answer to be crisper. he's, you know, thisas been broiling around for some while oiling a

e some people were frustrated people wt said more. >> yes, yes. you know, look, i think i'm a fan of the vice president. i've known him a long time. i have always felt that his support was soft, and it feels like his campaign is contracting rather than expanding. >> do you think he should have been more forceful on this? >> look, i want to be careful, i want to appreciate that being a candidate like being in office s a blend of substance and bleormance art. i don't want to elevate the perf performance art over -- he a great line. .> that is good. od.you know, it's one of the things we do. it's tough standing there for three hours and try to get your >> it is. you've got 12 candidates on the stage, and you know that when your moment comes, you've got to n make your moment. do you think that anything that anybody said moved the needle one way or another for anybody? >> no, i don't, i don't. >> isn't that frustrating, though?

>> i'm not sure that's the hatnt. fr why not? > when you say move the needle, i think many folks think that means does it affect your poll numbers. i'm not sure that the poll numbers mean much right now. i keep meeting people who say it's too much right now. not focused right now. i'll focus when there are fewer candidates and i suspect that moment will come soon. >> for the people who are thinkd, do you think the candidates struck the right betnce between attacking each >> i tand attacking the opposition, president trump? >> i think it was mostly a night didut ideas, and that's good. ideink it did display that we n the democratic party are a party of ideas and big ideas that meet the challenges in people's lives and that's an important contrast between what our party is about and what the current national republican party is about which is about hoarding benefits for a few, and the rest of the working public. blic.ickly, do you think bernie bnders resolved questions about

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we are dedicating our show next wednesday, a week from today, to a large today to a live special focusing on mental health. we're calling it stop the stigma. we want to take the shame and blame out of discussing mental health illness. it will feature "queer eye" star and mental health advocate karamo brown. our special will highlight scientific advancements in treatment technology, and over the next week celebrities and people from all over the country will share their stories on our digital platforms.

>> after three combat tours i've learned not all wounds are physical. >> i have anxiety and depression, and it does not define me. >> if i can open up, maybe somebody going through something similar can have context. >> if i can do anything, if t -- it would be for my brothers and sisters with wounds inside to seek the help they need. stigma on the "cbs this morning" social media platform. about taking shame and blame out of mental illness diagnoses. a lot of people don't want to talk about it, but we do. >> i agree completely. >> it's important. >> absolutely. and you can see our live special, "stop the stma," on october 23rd. of course, that's right here on "cbs this morning." discussions about male breast cancer may be difficult for patients. four months prior, it may have

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in our "morning rounds," october is breast cancer awareness month. and this morning, we're focusing on male breast cancer. the disease in men accounts for about 1% of all breast cancer cases. this year it's estimated close to 2,700 men in the u.s. will be diagnosed with breast cancer. our dr. tara narula is here. how much of this -- how much of a problem is this? >> anthony, statistically speaking, it's not that common. about 500 men will die this year

from breast cancer. compared to more than 41,000 women. the mortality rate in men is higher. in the case of tammy porter, she says the lack of awarene around the disease caused a delay in her late husband's diagnosis. >> it never even occurred to me that he would -- any type of cancer, certainly not breast cancer. >> reporter: four years ago tom tammy's husband, mike started noticing symptoms of breast cancer. >> he literally had a pea-sized lump under his air-year-olda on -- aereola on the left side. he pointed it out matter of factual factually. there was no discussion of it at all until probably three on four months later, and he said, i think this is getting bigger. at that time, it was much closer to a dime size, and his nipple was inverting. and i could tell that there was some growth there. >> reporter: after a visit to their physician, mike was quickly scheduled for a mammogram. what did mike think about the mammogram discussion? >> i think he was empairsed a

little -- embarrassed a little. it was hard to mention the words "breast cancer." he would say, "i have cancer," but it was hard to discuss the breast cancer part. you know, it was very ostracizing walking into a clinic that's full of pink and, you know, the mammogram room that literally says "women only." >> reporter: he underwent a radical mastectomy and laidation but it metastasize today to his lungs and brain. 2 1/2 years after his diagnosis, mike passed away. >> if we had known three or four months prior it may have been a stage-one diagnosis. it might have been very different if we had known. >> you think if this would have been on your radar screens, when he first felt the lump -- >> for sure -- >> you potentially could have gotten it treated earlier and the course would have been different. >> absolutely. i imagine the early intervention would have definitely changed the course for him. >> reporter: particularly in men, that early detection is critical. >> in general, men have lower

survival rates than women do after they get diagnose wednesday breast cancer. >> reporter: one-third of dr. sharon giordano's patients are men. there's lack of education. >> includes genetic factors such as mutations, exposure to radiation therapy in the past, a family history of breast cancer. so if they're the first-degree relatives had breast cancer, they have more than double the risk of having breast cancer themselves. >> reporter: it was knowing his family history that helped former nfl player paul dombroski. >> my mom was a brfr survivor for 25 -- a breast cancer survivor for 25 years. as soon as i felt the lump, i knew it was breast cancer. >> reporter: he was diagflonose with breast cancer. >> i immediately thought how do i battle this? it's like a football player, you're injured, how do i get back -- the football field. >> reporter: he's on a mission and the mission is to raise awareness. >> a lot of guys i pyed with

said, i didn't know men could get breast cancer. bro, you got breasts. it's pecs, your chest. the rarity thing, i think we should drop that term, again, it's not that rare, that man and that man's family. >> reporter: as for tammy, she hopes sharing her loss will help save lives. >> he vocalized a number of times that he hoped that his life wasn't in vain. and that -- sorry -- that it would mean something, and that we would be able to change someone else's life by telling his story. >> reporter: the fda recently put out guidance recommending men be included in breast cancer clinical trials. it's typically only women participating in these trials. for men, the symptoms are usually a lump behind the nipple or some bleeding. >> wow. >> it's so interesting that early detection in men is especially critical. >> yes. because most men pick it up at a later stage. at that point, it's

metastasized, and the survival rate is much lower. if it's picked up early, the survival rate's equivalent to that of women. >> i loved dombroski's info. mission -- bro, you've got breasts. >> and men will look at it differently -- >> because bro, you've got breasts. >> you both do. >> you both do -- >> we all got breasts. >> gayle king, to human resources. gayle king to human resources. very importance. >> thank you so much. in a very rare moment, prince harry gets emotional in public. ahead why he broke down in tears when speaking about his wife, meghan markle. your local news is next.

this is a kpix 5 news morning update. >> good morning. it is 8:25 i'm michelle griego. crews are still on the scene of a large fire that destroyed two storage tanks at a fuel facility in contra costa county. the fire began just before 2:00 yesterday afternoon. and the company is looking in to whether monday night's mod raetd earthquake was a factor in the fire and the johns wed unified school district is closed due to the fire and will re-open on friday. a 3.4 magnitude quake struck near holster. it happened a little after 6:00

this morning after last night's aftershock struck along the san andreas fault line. a ballot measure could extend a quarter tax. in sonoma and marin counties. news updates throughout the day on your favorite platforms including our website kpix.com.

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welcome back to "cbs this morning." it's time to bring you some of the stories that are the "talk of the table" this morning. this is where we each pick a story we'd like to share with each other and with all of you. >> okay. >> start it off. >> i got a bit of a parental advisory out there. we knew it was true but needed the experts to tell us. it's abo children's beverages. we know they're big business. americans spent $1.4 billion last year on 34 of the most popular brands of fruit drinks and flavored waters for kids, but a new report by the university of connecticut finds none can be considered healthy despite the word "fruit." two-thirds contain no real

juice. most contain no more than 5% juice. and despite this, 85% have images of fruit on the cover. talking kool-aid jammers, capri sun. i loved me some minute maid lemonade. after basketball practice in history, i would drug it right from the carton. that may be why they called me husky in college. >> better to be called husky than portly. debbie downer. i love these -- >> i love them all. the advertising makes it seem fun. in moderation. >> you think you're being healthy, but you're not. >> not so much. >> gayle? >> mine is britain's prince harry. became emotional during a speech last night in london for the well child awards. the awards honor gravely ill kids and their caregivers. harry choked back tears when he recalled last year when he and meghan markle knew that they were pregnant but nobody else did. >> last year when my wife and i attended, we knew we were expecting our first child. no one else did at the time, but we did. and i remember --

[ applause ] >> that was a little snort and a cry. harry says that he remembers squeezing meghan's hands so tightly last year. as first-time parents, we remember when baby archie was born. they adore this little boy. and so when he starts thinking about his own son and other kids that aren't doing so great, it does -- it gets to him. you can see that. so much for the british stiff upper lip. i think it's great when you see that kind of emotion. >> fatherhood can soften even the toughest man. i love seeing it. >> exactly right. >> so true. it was a very intimate moment. all right. > the rock and roll hall of fame announced the nominees for its 2020 class. 16 artists were nominated. among them, the late whitney houston. ♪ oh i wanna dance with somebody i wanna feel the heat with somebody ♪ >> houston died in 2012. she is a first-time nominee for the hall of fame.

other nominees include pat benetar, dave matthews bands, do pearl mode, the doobie brothers, and the notorious b.i.g. after voting by fans and music industry experts, the official inductiontors will be announce -- inductees will be announced in january. >> i knew you were going to pick that story. when i saw it, i knew you were going to do it. >> i looked at it and thought, everybody is going to think i'm going to pick this. i better pick it. >> they call it the rock and roll hall of fame but they have musicians across genres. >> in the end, music is not confine today to one genre. -- confined to one genre. >> why don't they call it the music hall of fame? >> that's a good question. six of the 16 nominees have never won a grammy which i think is interesting. just three have had number-one songs, whitney houston, noer to notice b.i.g., and the doobie brothers. >> a list, very good class. paul rudd has become one of hollywood's most beloved actors more than his 25-year career, he

starred in "clueless" to hits like "anchor man" and "this is 40." rudd stars abuse himself in a netflix -- stars as himself in a netflix series where he plays miles, a man who is unhappy with his life and visits a spa hoping to turn things around. miles returns home to find he has been replaced by a better version of himself. >> what have you been doing here? >> i live here. >> i live here. i'm here. >> take it easy. take it easy. >> what's happening, what's -- that's what i'd like to know. that's what i'd like to know. that's what i'd like to know. >> the only thing i know is they was upstairs with my wife, and now i'm bein attked by someone who looks like me in a diaper. >> paul rudd is with us now. paul, good morning. welcome. >> good morning. >> "entertainment weekly" says paul rudd gives two of his best performances in this show. >> they're both really good.

>> they are both really good. what's it like playing opposite yourself a nightmare. >> yeah. >> i'm such a diva. >> how do you do that? >> it -- it was -- >> like a dance. >> in a way it is. it was a challenge, and i -- i was excited to try it. and i -- and you know, normally when you're acting opposite somebody, you don't know where a scene's going to go because who you do is dented on what the -- dependent on what the other person is doing. this is the first time i got to think of a scene and construct it from the ground up. >> like literally, practically, how did you do it? a green screen or a dummy there? >> no, a lot of times - it's not an unconventional way, but there are many ways to do it. for me the way it worked best was to records the audio for -- record the audio for both charact character. whatever character is driving the scene is the one they would film first. i wouldn't act with a double or an acting partner, i would put a little earwig in my ear, i would

listen to the opposite line. if i'm playing the new version of the character, i can hear the old version replying because there's somebody off screen hitting the cue. and then i w study that take, once we settled on the proper master take that we would use, i would switch over into the other guy, and i would say where i was moving what happen what gestures i was doing on what words and i would her hear it -- i would hear it on the reverse. that's where it's choreography. it became a little easier as it went along. it was a -- >> i it would think it could get confusing. >> yeah. at tis. but like anything, i guess you just get into the zone. and we were able to do it in a fairly short amount of time. >> i would think it would be acting gold, though, to have this type of role that you get to play two personalities, but while looking exactly the same. you know you got something, paul, when you get to deliver a line that says "is there a reason why i'm wearing a diaper." that was laugh out-loud funny in

the scene. you shot that in a part -- did others see you outside? it is a very, very funny scene. >> actually, the very first week we filmed -- >> so funny. >> which we moved up in the schedule because the weather was going to change. and a cold front happened -- there wasn't a lot of running outside -- >> the first scene. >> the opening of the show i'm running through the woods in a diaper. i emerge from a grave wearing a diaper. we shot it in a park. and -- and -- >> you were in a grave -- >> there were people riding their bikes past it. or they were like -- i got to get somewhere. >> that's another role people have seen you in. your father, does being antman, mean that you are cooler to your children's friends? >>. i think if i'm cooler it's because i know tom holland. that's about it. i think that there -- it is exciting for my kids and for their friends -- >> is there a look of recognition, though? people come over, little people, children, are like, wait a

minute, is that your dad? is he antman? >> i've been friends -- >> how old are your kids? >> my kids are 14 and 9. their friends now i've known for a while. kids are interested for about two seconds. and then they want to just kind of play with their friends. >> yeah. >> was playing a superhero something you ever thought you'd do? >> no. it's not. it just -- that was -- i never thought too much about it. i wanted to play lots of different parts and different genres andal kind of characters. -- and all kind of characters. that wasn't something i anticipated. when it happened, it was a pleasant surprise. >> is it just another part or -- it comes with a lot of global recognition. >> absolutely. it's certainly the most visible thing that i've ever done. and it was also the first thing that i ever did that was suitable for younger audiences. >> can i go back to living with yourself? all this happens at the top happy spa. so just think about that for a second. run by two korean gentlemen. and when you first get there, who's walking out the door? that was a surprise. >> right.

yeah. there's a -- the premise of the show is i play a guy named miles who just not in the best -- >> his name was george until you changed it to miles. >> it was george -- i think i've played five different georges. >> yes. >> and how did you pick miles? >> i was thinking of my fantasy football team. i had jacksonville defense and i thought miles jack. and so -- >> miles is a cool name. >> his name is miles elliott. and tim greenberg, the writer, when we nixed george, we were trying to come up with other names. he said how about elliott. i think he came one because he had ezekial elliott. >> it's plumb the deaths of psychology. did playing your best and worst self make you see your best and worst self? >> it makes me re-evaluate as i do any kind of characters -- >> the demons come out. >> are we allowed to see who was the superstar coming out the

door -- >> i thought we said. >> it's out there -- >> it is -- >> who? >> didn't you say it? i know who it was. i saw it. it's a great show. we appreciate you being careful -- >> what a tease. >> it is exciting. >> superstar. >> "living with yourself" premieres this friday on netflix. coming up, salesforce co-founder mark ben yugoslavia has waded -- benioff

billionaire mark benioff is considered a game changer for activism in the business world. he's co-ceo and chairman of the cloud company seasforce which is -- salesforce which is around $130 billion with a b dollars. he's sharing the values behind his company. in 2015 benioff threatened to scale back business in indiana after state lawmakers passed a law that said that he said discriminated against the lgbtq community. a lot of people believe that. that measure was amended one week later. he also helped close a gender gap, pay gap, at salesforce, his own company, and speaks out over problems with social media. his new book, appropriate called "trail blazer: the power of business is the greatest platform for change."

mark benioff joins us at the table. >> a big deal when you have your cover and name bigger than the title. >> that is a good clue. here we are, mark, summer of 1996. you're living the american dream. you're very successful. making a lot of money. you said you weren't happy. you felt lost? you took a sabbatical and found what about yourself? >> right -- >> it changed how you do your business. >> you're 100% right. i had spent a decade working at oracle, and after ten years, i was like, i'm not feeling very good. you know, something's really wrong. and i said to my boss, i've got a problem. his name is larry ellison, ceo of oracle. he said, you should take a sabbatical. i didn't know what it was. and he explained it to me, and i took off for a while. and i went -- >> what did you find? >> i went and found myself. i'll tell you what i found was that i kind hear two parts of myself. one part of myself was my work self. one part of myself was my philanthropic self trying to do good. and i put those two things together, and i started salesforce. >> you said you don't want --

you didn't want to be an activist ceo, b your employees pushed you -- >> i didn't. that's right. >> n you embrace that role. >> gayle mentioned we have no choice but to listen to our customers, key stakeholders, and even our local public schools, the homeless in san francisco where we have a terrible situation -- >> the homeless stakeholder -- >> absolutely. when you're running the largest company in san francisco and i'm walking to work, i'm looking in the eyes and the hearts of those homeless. those are my key stakeholders. my employees are saying, what are you going to do about this? that's why last year, i ran a major campaign for something called proposition c to actually tax salesforce so we can pay more to provide services to the homeless in san francisco. they're a key stakeholder. >> business leaders were upset with you about that. >> i was going to say -- >> yeah. >> look, in business you have to realize of course you have

shareholders. that's one of the core premises. and you also have stakeholders. like we just talked about. the employees, the customers, the partners. >> the homeless, the cools -- >> a radical idea -- schools -- >> a radical idea for a corporate leader. >> not as radical as you would think. companies have stakeholders and shareholders, they're just as important. and i have a shareholder return, by the way, if you bought salesforce stock in 2004 when we went public, you would have a 100% return. >> i didn't either. >> i didn't either unfortunately. >> i also have a stakeholder return. the stakeholder return is $300 million in grants, we've done four million hours of volunteerism, we run 40,000 nonprofits and ngos for free, and we're a net-zero company, fully renewal by 2025 because we have stakeholders. that's why we have a stakeholder report and shareholders report. >> you believe companies can and should make money but they can also make money and do good for society. >> that's why i wrote the book,

"trailblazer." the reason why i wrote the book is so i can explain through the stories of salesforce over the last 20 years of how we've done both. how we've been able to do well and do good. how we've been able to put it together. to weave the fabric of success of salesforce is a story of shareholders and stakeholders. >> where does the activist ceo end and the capitalist ceo begin? the reason i ask is because you took a stand in indiana. it had what you perceived to be an anti-gay law. you do business in other countries that have anti-gay laws like india, morocco, yeah. where does it end? where's the line? >> we're the largest tech employer in india that. we're a major employer there. we have thousands of employees there. and beef me i was -- believe me, i was surprised as someone born in san francisco, the home of gay rights, when i got a phone call saying, hey, we have a problem. the governor, at the time mike pence, just signed a law discriminating against the lgbtq community. so we said, hey, if you don't

change that law, we're going to deinvest. and when we said that, hundreds of other companies followed us. >> briefly, mark -- >> the economic power we're able to create change. >> how would you handle what adam silver's dealing with in china? can you sum that up, what you would do in that situation? >> i think you have to assess all of the stakeholders, you know. you have many different stakeholders. it's a multistakeholder situation there. and if you don't bring them all in, then you have basically every story to be told. and if you're only telling one story, you can't weave the fabric. and i think this is really a critical message. that's why i wrote the book "trailblazer" because ceos need more information bike that. >> mark benioff -- >> i'm excited to have adam tomorrow -- >> we've got to go. on sale right now. we'll be right back. this is hamish.

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before we go, two firefighters in utah are gaining attention for their manicures.

braelyn was look could forwards to painting her nails at grandma's house on friday, but her mom's car was rear-ended. two firefighters responded and cheered her up by letting her paint their nails. that s --

this is a kpix 5 news morning update. >> good morning. it is 8:55 i'm michelle griego. crews are still on the scene of a large fire that destroyeded two storage tanks at a facility in contra costa county. the company is looking in to whether monday night's moderate earthquake near pleasant hill was a factor in the fire and the johns wed unified school district is closed due to the fire and will re-open on friday. a 3.4 magnitude quake struck near hollister. it happened just a little after 6:00 this morning. this after last night's 2.9

magnitude aftershock struck near hollister along the san andreas fault line. sfo will renumber all of its gates. that incorporates the letter of the boarding area with a new gate number. news updates throughout the day on your favorite platforms including our website kpix.com.

welcome back it's 8:57 taking a look at the roadways right now.

still busy at the bay bridge toll plaza. we do have a couple of accidents reported here. so you've got a back up well into the maze here. still slow and go conditions. southbound 101 left lane taken away due to a traffic hazard in the roadway if and you plan on commuting along highway 1 look out for a traffic hazard there as well. a little slow as you work your way northbound and that ease shore freeway a little slow. >> a chilly start to the day with partly cloudy skies. as we head into the afternoon. daytime highs and looking at cloudy conditions ahead of a cold front. a shower chance as we head through tonight and especially for the north bay due to this weak cold front. but for today 72 in concord. 67 in oakland and 63 for san francisco. so again as this cold front pushes through it will weaken rapidly and fall apart. a few spotty showers overnight

for the area. we'll start to see that clearing with cooler temps for thursday.

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