the santa cruz mountains hitting thursday and friday. in the sun and some pretty pictures. thanks for watching. have a great day. good morning to you and welcome to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king with good morning and welcome to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king with anthony mason and tony dokoupil. today, stop the stigma, we're dedicating a lot of today about stopping mental illness. we'll joined by mental health experts to join the studio audience in ways to discuss the shame and blame. impeachment bombshell. the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine tells investigators how the trump administration told ukraine's president exactly what to do in exchange for u.s. aid. shocking murder charges. a colorado mother is accused of killing her young daughter after allegedly making phony claims that she was terminally ill.

and facing new pressure. why actress lori loughlin and other parents accused in the college admissions case a now charged with bribery. >> it's wednesday, october 23rd, 2009. here's today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. you have damning testimony day after day in the impeachment inquiry. >> explosive revelations from america's top diplomat to ukraine. >> bill taylor testified that president trump made military funds for ukraine contingent on ukraine's public pledge to investigate joe biden. >> how dare >> president trump is facing criticism after comparing the house democrats' impeachment inquiry to laneching. >> this is a lynching in every sense. this is un-american. russia and turkey announced an agreement to jointly patrol almost the entire northeastern syrian border after withdrawal of kurdish fighters. >> we certainly didn't sign up to help them establish an autonomous kurdish state. boeing is replacing the head of its commercial airplanes division in the wake of the

deadly air crashes of the max jet. their gm was accused of an expletive-filled tirade towards female reporters. >> the story of the experts and reporters are completely different. actress lori loughlin and ten other parents face new bribery charges in the college admissions scandal. a tea crashes through the roof of a home. >> amazingly, no one was hurt. all that -- >> basketball season is officially back, opening night in the nba. >> here comes james and the sledgehammer! >> and all that matters. >> john lithgow unveiled his over-the-top rudy giuliani impression on "the late late show" last night -- >> your facts are all wrong, so sh, zip it. and ask me a question. >> are you dancing? >> get ready for the next viral video. this driver pulled up on a cowboy and his dancing horse. >> you're trotting. ♪ how are you making him do that?

♪ always for love >> do the milly rock. hit a dab. >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" is presented by toyota. let's go places. >> i don't know if enough people can ride horses for that to take off. >> i want to know that, too. how are you making him do that? and the horse had the head bop down, too. nicely done. welcome to "cbs this morning." we're going to begin with this, this first hour. the house impeachment inquiry may be entering a new phase after a day of testimony that democrats call detailed, damning, and disturbing. the top u.s. diplomats in ukraine, that's bill taylor, laid out how president trump held up military aid for ukraine as he pushed its leaders to investigate democrats and a company linked to farmer vice president joe biden's son. >> the white house called the inquiry a coordinated smear campaign and said there was no quid pro quo on ukraine. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, what else did we learn from taylor's testimony? >> reporter: yes, we learned that there were meetings and

phone calls and cables where this controversial strategy was discussed and where the ukrainians were pushed to cooperate, even told what to say to make the president happy. ambassador taylor called the situation alarming and made it clear that he felt it was a quid pro quo. >> mr. taylor, what led you to be concerned about a quid pro quo? >> reporter: in nearly ten hours of testimony, ambassador bill taylor described a secret campaign to pressure ukraine, using millions in military aid as leverage. >> this is my most disturbing day in congress so far. very troubling. >> he is probably one of the most credible witnesses i've ever seen. >> reporter: taylor is a veteran civil servant who was asked to return to his post in ukraine this summer, according to his 15-page opening statement. he encountered a highly irregular u.s. policy-making effort there, led by the

president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani. >> this is not just rogue rudy giuliani, self-dealing in ukraine. he's an agent of the president. >> reporter: taylor said that by mid-july, it was becoming clear that a meeting the ukrainian president sought with mr. trump was conditioned on the investigation of burris isma, t energy company that employed the son of presidential candidate joe biden. taylor said he was told that everything, including millions of dollars in u.s. security assistance depended o zelensky publicly announcing an investigation related to the bidens and the 2016 election. >> the money held up had absolutely nothing to do with biden. >> reporter: taylor's testimony directly contradicted the white house line. >> there was no quid pro quo. at all. >> reporter: mr. trump isn't making it easy for allies to defend him. >> the pnt h said that you told him that his phone call with the ukrainian president was perfect and innocent. >> we have not had any conversations on that subject. >> reporter: so he was lying

about that? >> you'll have to ask him. >> reporter: still, mcconnell and other republicans insist the president is being denied due process. and after that ten-hour deposition wrapped up, one republican, mark meadows, came out and said he still doesn't see evidence of a quid pro quo. anthony? >> nancy, in a tweet, the president used the word lynching to describe the democrats' inquiry. what was the reaction on the hill to that? >> reporter: well, harsh condemnation from democrats who argue that the president's language minimized hate crimes against black americans while many republicans also said that they didn't feel that the language was appropriate, but there were other republicans who argued that this is hardly the first time that that word has been used in a political context. they pointed to the fact that joe biden himself used it back in 1998 when discussing the impeachment of then president bill clinton.

that led biden to take to twitter to say that it wasn't the right word to use and that he's sorry about that. trump, on the other hand, he argued, chose his words deliberately in his use of the word lynching, and biden said continues to stoke racial divides in this country. >> all right, nancy cordes. thank you, nancy. facebook ceo mark zuckerberg is testifying this morning on capitol hill. his hearing is supposed to be about cryptocurrency, but that is not likely to be the only line of questioning from members of congress. ed o'keefe is outside the hearing room. ed, good morning. so, what are the issues on the minds of zuckerberg, but also the committee members? >> reporter: well, good morning, tony. when zuckerberg appears here today before the house financial services committee, he's set to push lawmakers and federal regulators to take a more active role in policing harmful content online, protecting elections, and improving online security. but members of both parties are poised to push him to explain what he's doing on those issues.

zuckerberg's appearance here comes just days after facebook announced it will more prominently label posts that include false or partially false information. they're also launching new tools to help political candidates monitor social media accounts for potential hacking. but facebook and instagram will still allow political candidates to advertise with few restrictions. that's earned criticism, especially from democratic presidential candidates who say facebook is helping president trump spread lies about his potential opponents. zuckerberg says it shouldn't be up to tech companies to decide what you can and cannot see online. so, whether it's cryptocurrency or election interference, this is a reminder, facebook plays a big role in the lives of millions of americans and billions around the world. and gail, heylgayle, he's set t rough day in the witness chair. >> thank you. iraq's defense minister said this morning that u.s. troops pulled out of syria will leave iraq in four weeks. that seems to contradict u.s. defense secretary mark esper, who made a surprise visit to baghdad this morning. esper had previously said those u.s. forces would continue

operating against isis from iraq. russia and turkey made a deal yesterday without the u.s. to take control of northeastern syria and force out kurdish fighters who fought alongside u.s. troops. this morning, holly williams is in syria, where she has exclusive access to turkish forces that have crossed the border. >> reporter: just three weeks ago, kurdish-led forces allied with the u.s. were in control of this territory here in northeastern syria. now, turkey is in control. this is the turkish military, turkish soldiers. we came across the border with them this morning. it has been a tumultuous time. earlier this month, president trump ordered u.s. troops to pull back from the turkey/syria border. american forces are now withdrawing from eastern syria. following that, turkey launched an offensive into northeastern syria, targeting those kurdish forces that were partnered with the u.s. in the fight against isis, but turkey regards them as

a terrorist organization. last night, we saw turkey's president, recep tayyip erdogan, and russian president vladimir putin making a deal about the future of this part of syria. they agreed on a cease-fire. turkey will get a nearly 20-mile-deep safe zone along its border, and turkish soldiers will carry out joint patrols with russian troops. we've already seen russian troops moving into areas that were controlled by kurdish all of this is a powerful illustration of how the u.s. is ceding influence here in the middle east to russia. now, those kurdish-led forces say that they are still holding around 12,000 accused isis fighters, including 4,500 foreigners. and one big question going forward is who will take control of those prisons? who will stop a mass prison break? who will prevent isis reforming its army of militants? >> thank you, holly. an investigation is under way right now in britain after

more than three dozen bodies were found in a semi truck. the discovery was made early this morning in an industrial park in the county of essex, east of london. police say the victims include 38 adults and 1 teenager. a 25-year-old man from northern ireland who was driving the truck was arrested on suspicion of murder. ay ty believe the truck came from bulgaria. there's no word yet on the identities of the victims or how they died. 11 parents, including actress lori loughlin, face new federal bribery charges in the school admissions scandal. loflin's husband, mossimo giannulli, is also facing the charges. prosecutors say the couple paid $500,000 to guarantee their daughters' admission into the university of southern california. the new counts are on top of conspiracy charges brought against loughlin and giannulli earlier this year. both have pleaded not guilty. prosecutors are putting pressure on everyone who's charged to

plead guilty. boeing today announced big financial losses after the grounding of its 737 max fleet lasted much longer than people expected. the aircraft had been grounded worldwide since mid-march following two deadly crashes that killed 346 people. yesterday, the president and ceo of boeing's commercial airline division was replaced. kris van cleave is at reagan airport outside washington with more on this story. kris, good morning to you. what can we expect today? >> reporter: good morning. boeing executives will be addressing a 53% drop in quarterly profit, a drop in revenue of about $5 billion, all of this because of the prolonged grounding of the 737 max. one executive who won't be on the call is kevin mcallister. he's out as president and ceo of boeing's commercial airplane division. he faced increasing internal scrutiny for what many saw as his poor handling of customer relationships and his management of boeing's most important division during the 737 max

coercial planes are more than 60% of boeing's total revenue. the move to oust him comes just days after a series of messages between two boeing test pilots from 2016 were made public, indicating interest may have -- there may have been problems with the max's automated flight control systems nearly two years before the crash. one pilot wrote "it's running rampant on the s.i.m." on me, and basically that he lied to regulators knowingly. dennis muilenburg was stripped of his chairman of the board title, he remains in control of day-to-day operations and is set to testify on the hill next week. you can bet there will be tough questions waiting for him. >> we'll be watching, kris. thank you very much. a teenager is in custody after a shooting outside a california school. it happened near ridgway high school. that's just north of san francisco. police say gunfire erupted yesterday morning after two students got into a verbal argument on the sidewalk. a 16-year-old was shot twice in the upper body and police later

found and arrested the suspect in a classroom. the victim is expected to be okay. a motive has not been released. the houston astros lost game one of the world series against the washington nationals last night, but this morning it's drama off the field that's making headlines. major league baseball is investigating expletive-filled comments the astros' assistant general manager made to a group of female reporters. "cbs this morning saturday's" co-host dana jacobson is here. dana, this is putting a cloud over the series. >> anthony, at the very least, you could say that the astros are in damage control mode. the comments you mentioned happened in houston's clubhouse after they clinched the american league pennant over the weekend. assistant gm brandon taubman is accused of turning to three female reporters, then launching into a gratuitous celebration of a controversial player who the astros had initially been criticized for acquiring after he'd been accused of domestic violence. >> the world series -- >> yeah! >> reporter: this was the

setting in which brandon taubman's explosive comments took place. "sports illustrated" reporter epapstein wrote that taubman turned to three female reporters, one of whom was we domtic violence bracelet, and yelled "thank god we got osuna! i'm so expletive glad we got osuna!" he was referring to pitcher roberto osuna, picked up by the astros after he was arrested on domestic violence charges in 2018 for allegedly assaulting the mother of his young child. charges against osuna were later dropped, but he was found to have violated major league baseball's domestic violence policy and served a 75-game suspension. >> my name is brandon taubman -- >> reporter: the astros initially said the report was misleading and irresponsible. but other reporters backed up apstein's account. with pressure mounting yesterday, taubman issued an apology. "i used inappropriate language for which i am deepl sorry and embarrassed. and i am sorry if anyone was

offended by my actions." astros owner and chairman jim crane also released a statement saying the team is "committed to using our voice to create awareness and support on the issue of domestic violence." astros manager a.j. hinch, who did not witness the incident, said what happened w uncalled for. >> no one -- i don't -- it doesn't matter if it's a player, a coach, a manager, any of you members of the media -- should ever feel like when you come into our clubhouse that you're going to be uncomfortable or disrespected. >> reporter: it is worth noting, the reporters did not ask any questions about osuna, who pitched poorly in the game prior to that and also that osuna has denied any of those domestic violence allegations. major league baseball issued a statement after taubman's apology condemning any action that would minimize the seriousness of domestic violence and said it would interview those involved in this incident. a lot of questions still. >> a big part of this seems to be that the astros suggested this didn't happen.

>> yes. >> and had not explained now at this point why they said that initially. they called the report fabricated story by this t was "sports illustrated" reporter. >> yeah, they were standing by their executive, but now even the executive is saying i used strong language. he's kind of walking up to the line of a full apology. i think a lot of people would like to see that full apology. >> no doubt. >> dana, thank you very much. >> thank you. some psychiatrists are now recommending a different approach to treating depression. ahead, one woman tells us how the medical advancement changed her life. plus, why the treatment may not work for ev >> good wednesday morning, we will heat up going to the afternoon with plenty of sunshine and above average temperatures, upper 80s in concord, fairfield and livermore, close to 80 at san francisco, we have extreme fire danger with a red flag warning in effect this afternoon through tomorrow afternoon and we will heat up even more thursday and friday.

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talk about original reporting. we're going to be doing that today again at the top of our 8:00 hour. this is something we've never done before. we're going to dedicate our entire next hour to a conversation about mental health, mental wellness, mental

illness. it will take place in front of a studio audience. never done that before either. this is a look at studio 53, where the audience is just -- studio 43. thank you very much, john tower. studio 43, where the audience is just coming in. it's at the cbs broadcast center on the other side of the building. our goal in this special is to stop the stigma surrounding mental health. we'll have a number of great guests for you today. "queer eye" star karamo will tell us how his own experiences have helped him become an advocate for mental health. >> and we'll talk to emmy award winning journalist our own jane pauley about her experience with bipolar disorder and her mission to change the narrative surrounding mental health. and we'll hear advice from mental health experts, including how to get help. a lot of very important information. we're very proud of this show. >>. yes, yes, yes. >> yes. all right, that -- >> it's a conversation that makes a lot of people uncomfortable. >> yep. >> nobody really wants to acknowledge it. >> yep. >> we're going in today to talk about it. >> that's all coming up in our next hour. please stay with us. coming up, your local news is next. ♪

>> good morning it is 7:26 am, i am kenny choi , another round of safety shutoffs by pg&e could start today and several california counties in the company is expected to provide your information later this morning on updated weather data. also an update on that shooting that put three santa rosa schools on lockdown, police say that a 17-year-old student was arguing with a schoolmate when he pulled out a handgun and shot him twice in the torso and the victim is expected to survive. also new details on an altercation in oakland, the president of the rafters,

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it's 7:30. here's what's happening on "cbs this morning." the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine shocks the impeachment inquiry, describing presidential policy as highly irregular. >> this is not just rogue rudy giuliani self-dealing in ukraine. he's an agent of the president. boeing fires a top executive and says the grounding of the 737 max has cost at least $8 billion. actress lori loughlin and others face more serious charges in a college admissions scam. the longer they continue to hold out, the worse it will be for them. plus, our "cbs this morning" special "stop the stigma" opens up the conversation about mental

health. >> don't be afraid. don't be embarrassed. talk to someone. and we'll meet a student support groutalking mental health on college campuses. >> there's going to be moments where you're not even going to be sure how you're going to get through the current 60 seconds. the only thing you on this earth 100% have to do is breathe. >> yep, sometimes even breathing is hard. we are just a few minutes away from our special about mental health. did you know that one in five americans suffer from mental health? if it's not you, then chances are, it's somebody you know, and certainly, somebody you care about. it's a very important topic to people in this country, and we want to make sure that it gets the coverage it deserves. we're starting that today. you're looking at studio 43. the audience is just arriving, getting situated in their seats. we're very excited to start this conversation with them and other special guests today. >> we sure are. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm anthony mason with gayle king and tony dokoupil. a colorado mother faces

first-degree murder charges in the 2017 death of her 17-year-old daughter. kelly turner, who went by kelly gant, is charged with 13 criminal counts that also include child abuse and fraud. we're now learning she may have faked her child's alleged terminal illness to gain attention and favors from groups like make-a-wish. barry petersen is just outside denver in castle rock, colorado. he's at the douglas county courthouse where turner is set to appear next month. barry what exactly is she accused of doing? >> reporter: good morning. kelly turner is also accused of stealing $500,000 from medicaid and a gofundme campaign. now, the official cause of olivia's death has not been reported, but investigators now believe it was the mother's sinister actions, not terminal illness. >> another princess is in trouble. it's belle. >> reporter: in the months before olivia gant's death, her colorado community rallied around her and her mother, kelly

turner. >> the outpouring of support that our little community has given, you just cannot repay that. >> reporter: olivia checked off bucket list items. [ sirens ] she was a police officer for a day. and thanks to make-a-wish, a superhero battling villains. >> she's in intestinal failure, and we don't know how much longer she has. >> reporter: olivia died in 2017, but investigators now say it was at her mother's hands. the investigation into olivia's death intensified last year when a doctor became suspicious of turner's claims her older child was a cancer survivor. turner later allegedly admitted that was not true, but she insisted to investigators, olivia's medical conditions were completely legitimate. in the indictment, several doctors dispute that. >> vkhaving a terribly ill chil becomes their claim to fame. >> reporter: psychologist mark feldman specializes in munchausen syndrome by proxy, where a caregiver fakes or induces illness in someone,

often for attention. in turner's indictment, investigators claim she spontaneously brought up the syndrome to them, then denied having it. but feldman says olivia's death seems like a classic case. >> there are a number of warning signs, inconsistent histories given by the mother, doctor shopping or hospital shopping, that is moving from place to place, and all of these seem to be true in the new colorado case. >> reporter: turner is now being held without bond at this facility. and the make-a-wish foundation said in a statement it is deeply disturbed by these allegations. >> there are things in this world i will never understand, and the allegations in this case are among them. barry, thank you very much. an estimated one out of every six adults will have depression at some point in their lives, but traditional therapies and medicines do not work for everyone. ahead, we'll meet a woman who tried an alternative treatment that uses magnetic pulses to

stimulate the brain. and on today's "cbs this morning" podcast, comedian gary goldman discusses his new hbo special called "the great depresh." a great guy sharing his mental health journey. he would probably make fun of the word journey. we'll be right back. i get it all the time. "have you lost weight?" of course i have- ever since i started renting from national. because national lets me lose the wait at the counter... ...and choose any car in the aisle. and i don't wait when i return, thanks to drop & go. at national, i can lose the wait...and keep it off. looking good, patrick. i know. (vo) go national. go like a pro.

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this morning we are dedicating an hour of our show to a live special aimed at taking the shame and the blame out of discussions about mental illness. the cdc estimates one out of every six adults will have depression at some point in your life. some psychiatrists recommend a different approach to the treatment. this alternative uses magnetic pulses to stimulate neurons in the brain. jamie yuccas spoke to a woman who has tried this treatment. this approach sounds a little daunting. what's behind it? >> reporter: well, anti-depressant medications and psychotherapy are, of course,

the first line treatments for majordepres these treatments, however, do not always work for everyone. in some instances, this treatment that you're talking about called deep transcranial magnetic stimulation might be used as an alternative or in combination with medication as a therapy. >> depression is the greatest thief ever. it robs you of your life, your happiness, your joy. >> reporter: marcia terry has lived with depression for most of her life. at her lowest point last year she says she was unable to leave her apartment for months. >> and i thought, there's no hope. i might as well just get used to to. i'll do the bare minimum of what i have to do in life, otherwise i am going to sit in my chair, do nothing, watch tv. >> reporter: terry tried five different anti-depressants without success. her husband finally convinced her to meet with a psychiatrist, offering a treatment called deep transcranial magnetic

stimulation or deep tms. >> i'm going to tighten it. it should feel snug -- >> when the person has depression, a certain area of their brain is underactive. >> reporter: dr. aron tendler is the chief medical officer for brain's way, the company's device uses magnetic pulses to create electrical activity and stimulate the areas in the brain that don't fire normally in people with depression. the treatment is less invasive than electroconvulsive therapy which works by inducing seizures in patients under anesthesia. >> i would say after the first week, i was for sure sleeping better. >> reporter: within the first week of treatment, you saw improvement? >> yes. >> reporter: patients undergo 20-minute treatments five days a week for an average of six weeks. >> they can drive. they can go to work. it's highly effective and low risk. >> reporter: terry says these days she's feeling an unfamiliar but welcome emotion -- joy. >> it's weird. i started noticing things around me more.

one thing recently that happened, at about a week ago we were walking home, and i -- out of the blue popped into ply head, and i said, "i love life." eye never said that in my life before. >> reporter: never said it before? >> never said it before. >> reporter: dr. steven siegel is head of psychiatry at the university of southern california. >> it turns out there is fog? we have that's perfect for -- there is nothing we have that's perfect for everyone. >> reporter: he says the daily sessions can be time consuming and prohibitive, and the treatment can be extremely expensive if not covered by insurance. >> i think it's important people know that tms is only one of the options available. we have talk therapy which is very effective. we have medications which are very effective. >> ready? jump. >> reporter: even after receiving deep tms, patients may still experience depressive episodes and need further treatment. >> it worked so well the first time that if you go through another bout of depression, you'll go back? >> oh, 100%.

i will be on the phone so fast. i will never give up again. and i have so much hope. >> reporter: the device is fda cleared, but some experts say there is not enough research on who this will help and its long-term effectiveness. they say deep tms is not for everyone, and that people experiencing depression should work with their health care provider to find the solution that's best for them, ty. >> not for everyone, but hope is the word. if this helps some people, it's a good thing. >> just think if you tried five different treatments and you think you're being robbed of your joy and think this works, i can see why she would want to do it again. >> it's like anything in that position. vladimir duthiers is looking at the stories you'll be talking about today. >> we've got shocking video of a home roof collapse. find out what caused it to come crashing down and what happened to the folks inside. and a don ther

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grab that leftover pizza and have it cold. time for "what to watch." >> ice cold. >> cold pizza's good. >> terrific. after a baseball game -- >> the day after. >> good, so, so good, cold pizza. good morning, everyoe. here are a few stories we think you'll be talking about today. this morning the utility company pg&e is considering imposing a second massive power outage that would leave about a half a million people in the dark. an intentional power shutoff could affect nearly 185,000 homes and businesses in 16 california counties. the company will make a final decision on the shutdown this morning. the move comes after a high fire danger alert in parts of the state prompted a red flag warning to be issued. it will last from today until tomorrow afternoon. less than a month ago, pg&e cut off power for several days to

roughly 800,000 california customers. >> they were not happy. i guess it must have effect fifth they're thinking we're going to do it again. the people were very ticked off -- >> two days without power. >> yeah. heart-pounding video shows the moment a tree crashed through the roof of a maryland home. take a look. wow. so two sisters and their dog were watching television last week in their living room when -- look at this -- boom. massive tree slices through the roof. the ceiling caved in, scattering debris everywhere. one of the teens got up to check on her sister, then they immediately began searching for their little puppy, gizmo. >> okay? >> gizmo was fortunately unharmed. as you can imagine, the girls were shaken up. we didn't even play the full sound of that. they are absolutely terrified -- >> they're screaming. the father said the only reason the entire living room didn't collapse is there was a stainless steel refrigerator

that blocked it -- >> blocked it. can you imagine, sitting there doing your thing, storm outside -- >> we're even looking at. it imagine what those girls felt like. >> yeah. >> you're seeing it, you don't know what you're seeing. >> they posted on facebook they were relieved nobody was hurt. and of course gizmo's okay. so this, gayle. congratulations because we're going to be talking about you today. you were honored yesterday at the annual woman's media awards ceremony in new york city. gayle received the wmc visible and powerful award. it recognized her role in advancing women and girls' visibility, power, and diversity in media. during her remarks, gayle noted the importance of journalism in today's word. >> we stay focused on the essential role that journalists play in our democracy. we will never forget that we are here for the people, absolutely nothing more, and never anything less. because there are plenty to stand for the governors we will

always stand for the governed. >> and you pointed out not only the importance of journalism but the importance of women who are journalists. if you want to be a powerful woman in journalism, then empower other women. >> the women's media center fights against sexism and racism. i'm opposed to sexnvolve and racism, too. >> yeah. courageous -- >> gloria steinem asked me, you don'to say to gloria steinem. i was telling them about our live hour special and everybody applauded. like, wow, good job. i'm very excited. very thankful to gloria steinem. very, very grateful. now we're heading to studios 43 for our special "stop the stigma: no more shame and bla " blame". that's minutes away.

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a lot of planning has gone into this. >> the staff of the show spent months planning this. >> new studio. we're very excited to bring this conversation to you live. we're hoping that you will tune in. >> good morning it is 7:56 am i am kenny choi i'm a contra costa county judge has declared a mistrial and an assault case involving a ballet dancer and instructor. the jury was locked, prosecutors plan to retry the case. and a controversial political billboard in san francisco has been torn down and elected officials gathered at a press conference this week to denounce the ad as racist. and in palo alto a car parking compromise not everyone is happy about, residents who have to fight commuters for parking spots now have to pay to park

in front of their own homes and residents can buy up to five year-long permits for $50 east or each.

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♪ ♪ [ applause ] >> welcome to a special edition of "cbs this morning." we're calling it stop the stigma. a conversation about mental health. r doe excited about this we've anything like this before and there's always that moment when you, too, audience, you've never done anything like this before in studio 43. this is the first time we've all been together here today. and we're looking forward to it why is this so important? we're dedicating this hour to take the shame and the blame out

of discussing all of us have dealt with, have seen -- mental illness. >> we're joined by a studio audience. many have personally been affected by mental illness, including family and friends. >> we're also joined by mental health professionals and advocates. you're going to hear applause and here's the reason, wheer hoping when you hear that and see all of us, it sends a message to everyone watching that it is okay not to be okay. and if you are experiencing mental illness, well here's a pretty clear message for you -- you are not alone. take a look at us. ♪ >> people are at a threshold of a new way of looking at mental illness. >> i had my own struggles, i suffered from anxiety, from depression. >> i had no idea what was wrong with me. why i felt the way i felt.

>> not all wounds are physical. >> night to understand that everybody deals with this. >> we all have our issues. >> you're completely fine. you're 100% awesome. >> i have anxiety and depression and it does not define me. ♪ >> there's no benefit to struggling in silence. >> the first way to addressing mental and brain health is also the bravest -- asking for help. >> no one should face they struggles alone. >> find that bravery to dive deep and tell somebody. >> don't be afraid. >> don't be embarrassed. >> you deal with your trauma or your trauma deals with you. >> stop the stigma. >> stop the stigma. >> stop this ugly stigma. >> that's right. stop the stigma. >> i agree tony at first i was a little uncomfortable with the

applause, i'm thinking why are we applauding about mental health. you raised an interesting point. we're here to celebrate. have a conversation when most people don't. >> the applause is to support this effort. >> we support all of this today. >> mental health is an issue, it concerns all of us, 48 million, listen to that number, 48 million u.s. adults experienced a mental illness in 2018 alone. mental health disorders are real medical conditions. just like cancer or diabetes, they can change a person's emotions, your thinking, your behavior and are caused by a variety of factors including genetics, lifestyle and certainly the environment. >> misunderstandings about mental health disorders are still common. new cbs news poll finds 51% of americans think there's a lot of discrimination and stigma against people living with mental illness. an additional 35% believe there is some. >> those numbers are too high.

and preparing this special, we've consulted with the national alliance on mental illness, the american psychiatric association, and a brain research group known as one mind. all them for editorial guidance. we did not do this alone. we'll hear from some of their leading experts throughout our show. while this is only one hour and it will only scratch the surface of topics surrounding mental health, we're committed to coverage of this important issue. our mission this morning is clear and simple -- it is time to stop the stigma. >> "queer eye" star is one person trying to do exactly that. he's on a hit show trying to help other people work through their own emotions. >> i do need support for other people. >> i think you would feel so supported if people knew that no, it's not that i'm shedding off, i'm trying to get myself together. >> yeah. it might be time to talk to them. >> that's the key thing. you're not alone in this.

>> i'm rey. >> give me a hug, man. >> his own experience with severe depression, anxiety and drug addiction that's helped him become an advocate for mental health. carama, we're excited to have you here. you were telling us this happened back in high school you started having very dark feelings what did that feel like, what did that look like to you? >> it was waking up and feeling like the sun just wasn't shining as bright as the day before it kept getting darker each day. i couldn't understand why. and i was sharing with you backstage, i went to my parents not understanding and having the language. >> like what's happening to me? >> yeah, what's going on with me and my mother and father were like pray it away. god will help you and i do believe there's a space for prayer. but i also believe there's a space for finding help right here. what do you do when you can't find that help? >> this started back in high school. at its worse what did it feel

like? >> it felt like i can't get out of bed, as if i was alone. as if things were not going to get better. as if the smallest task felt overwhelming and if i had a large weight on my shoulder. and then is progressively got worse and worse. >> what was the turning point like? the show is about those turning points where you said i need help or someoneeo you and said we can help you. >> it was about me realizing i needed to have a better life. i wanted to have a better life and it was seeing people in spaces like this, which is why i applaud everyone in this audience. where i said if they're trying to be better, maybe i can be better, too. so i started to try to find the help, educate myself. find support systems. >> you said you didn't even know you could get help. you didn't think that was an option to you. >> not at all. i thought mental health support was for rich people. >> you said rich white people. >> yes, to be very honest with you. watching television i saw only

rich white girls going to rehab and getting support. it's what i thought. everyone who looked like me, i never saw them seeking mental health support or talking about their mental health. >> let's go to our audience. remy is 24 years old. she struggled to talk to her family members about her experience with eating disorders. what's your question? >> what tips do you have for those struggling with mental health that come from cultural back grounds that don't typically encourage speaking out about it? >> i want to applaud you for being so o about your struggle. thank you so much. that's really great. >> one of the main things we have to remember, communities of color or people of immigrants, they sometimes don't have the information. there's a lack of information, there's also a lack of access to health care. so we have to understand all those factors play into why they're not talking about mental health and why it's not important to them in a sense. giving them the education that they need, is really key, so for you getting to place where you

feel comfortable is about educating them. you would want me to tend to that every day, that wound. let them know the physical wound is in my mind or in my heart. that's a way to help them understand that. >> and needs just as much attention. >> you've also talked about the members of the lgbtq community have a higher rate of suicide attempts than the general population. you said you tried to take your own life years ago. >> i did. >> what's your message about that? >> the lgbtq community, we suffer bullying, depression, anxiety. so you have to remember, that in the lgbd community you're feeling isolated from your family or groups of support. so where do you turn when you feel like this? for me it was important to make sure to reach back to lgbtq youth, to helping them understand there's a place and support for them. they don't have to live in this dark cloud every day. that you can get health.

>> you thought taking your health was a viable alternative for you? >> yes. >> it did get that dark? >> it did. i sat there and thought, this is never going to get better and i'm someone who was he had indicated and understood mental health. i could help other people, but couldn't help myself. >> will was diagnosed with depression when he was a sophomore in high school. what's your question? >> i found that regularly checking in with my family, like my mom here as well as daily d meditame meditations have been crucial for my mental health. what helps you? >> one thing i helped people to realize is the same way you set goals for your life, the year i want, the family i want, set daily emotional goals. for me i wake up in the morning and i say today i plan on being happy. if there are things that are happening in my life where i don't see myself being happy, i try to find support if other people or i troo i to figure out whatky do within myself. what education i can get.

i think that's really important. when we talk about our emotions we think about this as this ambiguous thing that's happening. if i want a good year, as if like every day something doesn't happen that changes that. >> quickly give us the winnie the pooh advice that you love? >> great spiritual leader. i don't remember the quote extly. >> i love this, winnie the pooh, he said you're braver than you believe, stronger than you seem and smarter than you think. >> karamo, thank you very much. >> daily emotional goals. ke liat. if you're experiencing a mental health crisis, help is available. call the national suicide prevention lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or context the crisis text line. and stay someday, we have much more ahead in our special stop the stigma. growing number offed adolescent are being diagnosed with mental health disorders.

how young people can get help. and emmy-winning broadcaster and our colleague, jane pauley will share her experiences with bipolar disorder and we'll talk to the mother of lady gaga, she started the born this way disorder with her daughter, stephanie. we call her >> good wednesday morning, we will heat up as we go through the afternoon with plenty of sunshine and above average temperatures once again, upper 80s in concord, fairfield and livermore, mid-80s san jose and close to 80 at san francisco and an extreme fire danger with a red flag warning in effect this afternoon through tomorrow afternoon. it will heat up more thursday and friday and a second wind event for this weekend. ♪ ♪

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sthe stop the stigma. everyone deserves authentic welcome. and a place to belong. >> there's nothing completely wrong with you. you're completely fine. yore100% awesome. >> welcome back to our cbs this morning special. we're calling it stop the stigma. a conversation about mental health. wetot make this a conversation. an ongoing conversation, to take away the shame and the blame. and that's something emmy-winning broadcast journalists and we're proud to say our colleague jane pauley is very passionate about. pauley put a very public face o she had taken a break from the spotlighand spent three weeks in a psychiatric clinic after being diagnosed in 2001. picture, an estimated seven million americans live with bipolar disorder. an illness that can cause

dramatic mood swings from interest depressive lows to manic highs. jane is a advocate for mental health, as well as a host of cbs sunday morning. welcome, jane. back in 2001 when were you diagnosed, i should point out that the majority of people who experience mental illness, experience it and are diagnosed before the age of 24. in your case you were -- >> 50. >> three kids mar, married. a very successful career. what was it like to get the diagnosis? >> when i was 49, i was not bipolar. when i was 50, i was. i was switched, flipped, these are medical terms of art. treated for hives. medication that wouldn't have been given to someone at least without protection and careful observation. if a doctor had reason to think that there was family history or prior history with a mood disorder, i didn't have that. >> had you no family history. >> none. that i know of, gayle.

but it it unmasked what doctors then described as a genetic vulnerability to a mood disorder and by that time, i was in pretty deep trouble. >> it's interesting that in terms of experiencing stigma, one of the direct ways that you did is your own doctor who suggested maybe you don't want to tell the public about this whole thing, and even gave awe little cover story. >> i want to talk about stigma later when you tell me i can. but the only time in my life, and it's been closing in on 20 years, that i experienced stigma was that day, day one, when i recognized that my doctor was given me a cover story to tell my employers that i was being treated for a thyroid disorder, which was true. but i knew it was more than that. >> not the whole truth. and i, poor guy, i said you know i'm already writing a book and the working title is

"skywriting: a life out of the blue." he went pale. but i knew then with my reputation on television, i'm midwestern. i am normal. >> surprised that it happened to you? >> yes, because -- no, my family had checked other boxes, but not that one. >> you wrote the only way to redeem this horrible situation was to talk about it. >> that's the way i think. when i told my doctor, he kind of turned pale and i didn't put out a press release. everybody deserves an opportunity to recover from whatever. in private. >> i'm trying to understand exactly how it manifested for you. we keep hearing you were diagnosed. how did it change for you? >> i changed. it didn't change for me, it actually got better. the side effect of the steroids for hives was, depression,

treated with anti-depression. >> were you sad, angry? >> i was, depren is depression. and then over time it worked and i got better and felt much better and then felt really great and then started having plans and other behaviors that my husband didn't know who i was. so that when i finally you know, when the doctor finally recognized, oh, i know what's going on here, this is bad. he called my husband and he said -- your wife is very sick. and gary was almost relieved. because -- >> he knew well maybe someone can help get my wife back. >> you don't like the word stigma. we're calling this program stop the stigma. i'm not an expert, i'm someone with buy polar. don't take medical advice from me. but as a communicator i know something.

words have power. and the word "stigma" is its own stigma. when you, you know, cancer used to have a stigma and then betty ford and now we wear pink ribbons and run for the cure. the yellow bracelets, michael j. fox fights parkinson's with hope, with a positive message. so every time you say "stigma" it is a reminder for people like me, that i'm fighting two wars, it's not enough that i have a disorder that's pretty serious. but i've also fighting this front. so my goal is that we fight stigma, which is real. but we fight it with sophistication. >> and normalize this conversation. >> yes, it's a medical disorder. >> if there's a 5k. i'm sure everybody in this room would run in it. >> jane pauley, thank you very

much for being here. we have a list of mental health resources and guides available on our website, cbsthis morning.com/mentalhealth. if you or someone you know is ever experiencing a crisis, you can call 911. we talk to cynthia germinata, lady gaga's mother, about mental illness and the effects on the family.

psychiatrist dr. sue balmer is here weust heard from jane pauley and karamo, why is it important for celebrities and well-known people to speak out? >> two big things happen, number one, we pay attention, because we pay attention to people that we like and respect and we get educated and informed. and number two, we realize there

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♪ [ applause ] ♪ [ applause ] welcome back, everyone, as you can see, this is a special hour on "cbs this morning," i'm tone tone, i've got gayle king and anthony mason. we're joined by a live studio audience as we talk about a very important topic. mental illness, mental wellness and mental health and the journey between the three. one in six young people experience a mental health disorder every year and the suicide raid for adolescents aged 10-14 has nearly tripled in

he last decade. >> a little 10-year-old person, up to 14? that's very scary stuff. mia bryant was diagnosed with depression back in college. she created her own support group for college students to talk with each other about their mental health. she called it, i like this name -- the mental elephant. >> i was extremely scared to tell my family and to tell my parents that i had been diagnosed with depression and that i was asked to be put on medication. i didn't want people to lose respect for me or to look at me and treat me any different to how they normally would. >> well hello, everyone. welcome to our meeting. >> the mental elephant began when i first received my diagnosis. >> we're for everyone who is not okay. but doesn't know how to get back to where they want to be. >> the main thing i like about the mental elephant it makes you feel welcome. it helps people talk. >> we do group chats,

empowerment events weexts do study sessions. >> people understand how is this okay? >> i talk about it to my friends sometimes. but i'm still working on that. >> i know there are going to be days where you think your world is collapsing. there's going to be moments where you're not even sure how you're going to be able to get through the current 60 seconds. the only thing that you on this earth 100% have to do is breathe. >> okay. so -- [ applause ] >> miyana joins us along with kenny duckworth. the medical director on e coalition on mental health alliance. good morning to you both. miyana, the line you have at the end, very powerful sometimes you just got do breathe. what did putting this group together, how did that help you in the end? all this group of friends? >> it helped me by providing me with insight on how other people might have to go through life

and the things they experience in college. it also provided me with support and it allowed me to provide other people with support and everyone knows giving and providing other people with help is something that can help you in the long run and allow you to feel great on the inside. >> you're in east carolina. this group is 300 strong? >> yes, we have elephants all over. maryland, to greenville, north carolina. >> you say we have elephants all over. i assume you named it for the elephant in the room. but something that you -- >> yes, ma'am. you're from the south. but ken i thought she said something very interesting. she was reluctant to go to her parents and friends, because she didn't want them to lose respect for her. that's exactly wire we're having this conversation. >> that's why we're delighted that you're doing this. miyana's generation is changing this game. >> how so? >> openness, vulnerability, the willingness to share things, miyana is a beautiful example of

how the next generation. >> do you think we are at a tipping point? >> i think we're at a tipping point in our society. people are talking about it, seeking help. hardly a day goes by that somebody doesn't ask me to connect them with a clinician. >> but suicidal thoughts are going up among young people. >> the worst of times even as this generation is paving the way for -- >> why is it going up, ken? >> social media. an opportunity to feel humiliated every day. school shooting drills should not be part of sixth grade. kbu they are in virtually every school in america, designed to raise anxiety. we're losing five americans every hour to the opioid crisis, those kids know somebody. >> do you sense a change at all in your friends in terms of the reluctance in the past to talk about this? >> yes. i would definitely say that over the past at least two to three years, my friends and a lot of my family members have become a lot more open and honest and translucent when it comes to their mental health and allowing

me to express self and the things i may go through. >> how do you tell the difference and patients that you're seeing, when does a person know that they don't have run of the mill blues, they have something else that's going to need a more serious look or more serious help? >> all of us experience anxiety. all of us experience sadness. it's size to fall into the trap, anxiety. snap out of it. that's the wrong way to think about it. when these symptoms impact your functioning, trouble going to work, your relationships, that's a sign and they persist for weeks, that's a sign that you might want to get an independent mental health evaluation. another piece is sleep. if you're waking up at 4:00 in the morning, it's quite likely, that you're having anxiety or depressive disorder. not if you wake up to do the good morning show. >> you're if you're having hot

flashes. >> duly noted. >> but let's not miss your point. is there anything miana that somebody cou have said to you that would have made a difference when you were in the dark place? >> i would definitely say the biggest thing that somebody said to me and i would say anything to now that may be in the dark place, is to keep breathing and to coat my favorite movie, "finding nemo" just keep swimming, just keep swimming. keep your head up and try the best that you can no matter what's going on. >> winnie the pooh and finding nemo having big roles. >> you said we were talking yesterday, most people who have attempted suicide who survive regret that they tried it. they regret that they tried it. >> many people who said during an impulsive moment of desperation, they wish they had ended it all and upon reflection, they know they can get help. >> it can and does get better. thank you both. >> ahead, lady gaga's mother will join us with her daughter's

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in your head with you. i love you, thank you so much to the grammys. thank you. >> that's lady gaga, addressing the importance of reaching out for help at the the grammy awards. the superstar has spoken openly about dealing with mental illness. >> her mother, who looks just like her, rather gaga looks like her mom joins us to talk about the impact of mental illness on family and friends. she teamed up with her daughter who she calls stephanie, that's her name. to create the "born this way" foundation it works to educate people about mental and emotional wellness. cynthia, thank you for joining us. >> i'm so inspired by you talking about this. >> thank you. you always said you knew stephanie was unique. >> we all have mental health. i believe that we as both individuals and society, we

don't treat it the same way that we treat physical health so certainly when it happened in our house, i didn't know what to look for. as a parent i wasn't prepared. to really address this. stephanie was very unique. that wasn't always appreciated by her peers. as a result she went through lot of difficult times, humiliated, taunted, isolated. when you're a young woman this severely impacts you. it was in middle school when i saw the turn happen. when she went from a very happy and aspirational young girl, to somebody that started to question her self-worth. to have doubts about herself. that's when we actually saw the turn. what i didn't realize, because i wasn't prepared, is how to really deal with it when i was growing up, times were different. the way that we would deal with things is what i learned. that's what i resorted to. i relied on -- >> get a grip. >> i relied on getting a grip. i relied on the generational

grit of just sucking it up and getting on with it. >> even if you do learn to listen. sometimes it's very hard. i've been in that situation, of knowing what to do. >> it's very hard to know what to do. and the impact on families, what i didn't realize is the profound impact that it can have. it basically terms the focus of everything on to that one individual. and families feel conflicted about it they don't really understand it. it causes conflict. and a lot of stress within the families. it can also cause feelings for me personally. the guilt, helplessness, not knowing how to help my daughter. what i learned is that no family is immune from this and we should all really learn where we would go, who we would turn to if something like this happened in our families. >> now that you've been through it, you've come out the other side. what advice or recommendation do you have for people who may have a family member going through this very thing. >> one of the most difficult things for me, as a parent was

understanding what was normal and what was not normal. when you look at young children in particular. what is normal adolescent development and then a real issue. that for me was not knowing how to distinguish between certain both emotional and behavioral changes, there's very noticeable changes that happen. feelings of sadness, feelings of selfless and worthless, in terms of behavior, you might be more angry. crying, turning to subance abuse. >> what do you recommend? >> what's the most important thing that a parent can do? >> the most important thing they can do is listen and understand. what i learned from my daughter is to listen and validate her feelings. i think as parents our natural instinct is to go into problem-solving mode. when in fact they really just want us to take them seriously. and understand what they're saying. >> and sometimes they don't often want to talk to their parents or talk to their peers,

it's important for them to find somebody they can talk to. >> we learned from our research that young people often don't turn to their parents, because they feel -- >> we get on their nerves. >> there's fear of being judged. also we as parents, we don't talk about our own struggles. i encourage parents to be vulnerable. talk about your current or past struggles. so it really models healthy conversations and good behavior. so the biggest thing is to really talk to them. and it's certainly okay to not be okay. and start to have these conversations. >> cynthia germanotta thank you so much for coming. ahead we talk to our panel of medical experts about finding the right help for you or your loved one. remember if you or someone you know is ever experiencing a crisis, can you call 911. you can call 911. you are watching a special edition of "cbs this morning." we'll be right back.

welcome back to our "cbs this morning" special. mental health is orders are treatable, but last year nearly 57% of those who needed treatment did not get it. >> we welcome back psychiatrist dr. ken duckworth and dr. sue varma along with our chief medical correspondent dr. jon lapook. good morning. >> good morning, jon lapook. >> you're a primary care physician. >> yeah. >> you say primary care doctors should be the first line of defense in mental health. >> yeah. and i think part of it is realizing that assessing for mental health problems, that's in our lane. just as assessing for high blood pressure or high cholesterol, anything else is in our lane. that means talking to people about their moods, but their possible mental health problems. also looking for clues. so ken mentioned any problems with sleep, is a person complaining of feeling jittery or maybe just a little bit

tired? and then the things that are more subtle. so body language. and what's really important in assessing body language is actually looking at the patient. >> yeah. >> turn away from the computer. look at the person, look them in the eye, and they'll feel safe. people the to feel seen. >> and validated. >> we know talk therapy is so vital. but dr. varm amedication is also out there, it's also an option, what should people know about the path? >> medication is such an important part and can be an extremely effective tool as part of a comprehensive treatment plan. we need to have realistic expectations. medication takes time to work. if we're talking about an ant e anti-depressan anti-depressants, it can take six to eight weeks. there are side effects, most of those dissipate. have a scheduled followup appointment if it is your primary care doctor treating you to specifically discuss this. a lot of times people get lost to follow up. they get off their medication because of the side effects. and also recognize that

medication isn't going to solve all your problems. if this issue is due to a loss, depression due to a family member getting lost or death, that we need to grieve those losses and not throw medication at the person. >> stuart in the audience has lived with anxiety for more than four decades and recently with depression. you have a question. >> thank you. my question is around -- my family knew i was depressed. but they didn't know how severe it had become. if somebody isn't forthcoming to a psychiatrist or to their family, how can you help them? >> stuart, that's a great question because shame is a core human emotion. if you're not feeling at your best, functioning at your best, there's a natural reticence to not share a vulnerability. one strategy is if you happen to have a family history of mental health, have that discussion before somebody develops a problem. >> yeah. >> that's one idea.

the other idea is just to notice the person and say, you know, is there anything that you want to chat with me about, i noticed that you are depressed. i may not have a full understanding of what you're going through, but i'm open to listening to you. >> very quickly. when do you know when to go to a therapist? when -- >> when your functioning or safety is in the -- is in the -- >> jeopardy? >> i think it's important to tell people that they can call their insurance company. they have an obligation to help you find a therapist. it's earmark important. you can -- it's really important. you can get assistance in paying for all this. >> the best-kept secret is your health plan wants to help you find a therapist if you can't find one. a secret no more. your primary care doctor is another route. they often are connected. >> there's a number on the back of your insurance card. thank you so much, dr. sue varma, ken duckworth, and of course jon lapook felt we'll see you at home later on. thank you so much. if you're experiencing a mental health crisis, help is

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