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to your loved ones. >> reporter: american firefighters in australia are facing new terrain, new terminology. >> like raft crews. we don't even have those back home. >> reporter: and a shift in tactics because of the sheer scale of these bushfires. jason loomis works for the u.s. national park service as a fire management specialist. >> when you learned you were coming here -- >> yeah. >> -- what want through your mind? >> i was super excited but the explosive conditions when we were being deployed. and then you're going to a foreign country so there's little subtle nuances you have to contend with. >> reporter: it's not the first time crews from the two countries have worked together. >> i'm michael. >> reporter: australians have helped battle american blazes in the past. americans were cheered when they arrived in sydney last week. fire management officer bart kicklighter was among them. >> how did that feel to get such a warm reception? >> it felt really good. it felt like we were respected
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as we respect them. it felt good to be able to come over here and return the favor to fight fire over here. >> reporter: for australian firefighter mark williams, the feeling is mutual. >> how have the americans been to work with? >> fantastic. >> smile, guys. >> experts in their field. they've fitted in. it's a bit of a new accent. on much to that, firefighting is firefighting. >> reporter: while battling wildfires is challenging no matter where you are, australia's thick brush, hotter than normal temperatures and low humidity have created the perfect firestorm. >> we weren't knowing for sure what we were getting into. we just knew it was chaotic and it was, you know, bigger and greater than anything we'd ever seen. just all the conditions came together and aligned. that's what we're seeing here. >> we could see something similar at home? >> we certainly could. whether we see a million acre fire or not, i don't know. i certainly hope not. but certainly the conditions are there for it. >> reporter: the american crews are here for 30 days. there are still many hot spots that need to be put out.
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while better weather conditions are predicted for this week, it is only the beginning of australia's fire season. or americans could be asked or americans could be asked to come over in the next several those darn seatbelts got me all crumpled up. that's ok! hey, guys! hi mrs. patterson... wrinkles send the wrong message. sorry. help prevent them before they start with new downy wrinkleguard.
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the biographical drama "the two popes" has been nominated for three oscars at ards.nthony
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best adapted screen play. for price and hopkins, it was a match made in heaven. they sat down for a chat with . >> reporter: this is what the unthinkable looked like back in 2013. >> benedict has been in failing health for some time. >> reporter: 85-year-old pope benedict saying he was too old and frail to continue in the job, resigned and flew off to retirement. and a few days later, something else that was once unthinkable rocked the vatican. cardinal jorge pergolia of argentina became francis. the first pope ever from the new world. for the first time in six centuries, the catholic church had two living popes. >> your style and your methods are entirely different than
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mine. >> reporter: it's anyone's guess if the two men hung out or what they might have talked about when it was all happening, but a new netflix film is filling in the blanks. >> now i can see a necessity for pergolio. >> reporter: in "the two popes," we hear what those conversations might have been based on those two men's writing and speeches. and since they disagreed on just about everything, not all of that discussion is polite. >> reporter: jonathan price who has been said to look a lot like the real pope francis plays him >>f you this, will damage the papacy forever. >> reporter: and sir anthony hopkins s is is pope benedict. >> you did say to me that you were nervous the first time you were on set with tony. >> i'm sorry. >> don't let him know that i was nervous of him, okay? >> all right, fine. no, i was.
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you know, you're nervous about any actor. i've been a fan of tony's for a long time. >> did you go to church when you were a kid? >> yes. >> reporter: price slipped rather easily into the role as we learned when we met up at a medieval art museum in new york. of course, it's not quite the vatican, but the chapel there has a certain celestial maggesty all its own. >> when you were first asked to play the pope, what did you think? >> well, the day he was created pope, the internet was full of images of the -- both of us next to each other, recognizing the likeness. and even my -- one of my sons called and said, daddy, are you the pope? >> reporter: he's not, of course, but for two hours, he seems to get pretty close. thecross. did n f >> reporter: price, a respected stage actor who has also been in
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more than five dozen films, says he still gets stopped on the street for this one. th 1985 cult classic "brazil." >> i get people saying, it changed their lives seeing that film. >> i'm curious, because you are widely seen as one of the finest shakespearean actors of our time, how you reacted when disney came to you and said we'd like for you to be in a movie based on an amusement park ride. >> oh, that. >> lower your weapons. for goodness sake, put them down. >> reporter: the movie, of course, was "pirates of the caribbean." if you're wondering how jonathan price could be happy in a disney franchise wearing a wig no less, it might be the advice he got >> ioinghi sw onbroadway. coach. i've never donethd months o what advice can yive sich i
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handd idou it your job. >> reporter: and now, in "the two popes," it's price's job to face off against the intimidating anthony hopkins. >> -- presenting the world with another pope. i'd like to see my correction. >> did you feel like you could relate to benedict? >> oh, yes. >> in what sense? >> well, i'm old, like he is. >> reporter: but he sure doesn't act old. >> it's astounding. >> it's something, isn't it? >> reporter: when he's not out shooting movies, sir anthony, who turns 82 this month, is an avid painter. >> you have several going at once? >> yeah. >> reporter: you might say hopkins has a knack for creating indelible images. >> did you do all these drawings, doctor? >> that is the duomo seen from
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the belvedere. y know fran rep in a sreer. 'sor >> dr. hungry villain. >> you knew hannibal lector was the part of a lifetime when you read the script? was one of tho. >> what's your relationship with that character now? >> nothing. i've forgotten all about it. >> but people must constantly -- >> they want me to do the -- >> i aets his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti. >> reporter: for him, the 1991 role seemed to come at just the right time. >> you fly back to school now, little starling. >> some say, why did you do that part? it pays the bills. my mother had been very ill. paid for her hospital bills. >> "silence of the lambs" did? >> yeah. >> you know the hardest thing is
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to listen. to hear his voice. god's voice. >> reporter: on screen and off, it seems faith comes easy to anthony hopkins, or at least it does now. did this affect how you see the divine doing this movie? did it make you look at religion differently? >> yes. i used to be, let's say, a nonbeliever. and nothing wrong with that. i didn't believe m and emotional pain, drinking too much and all of that stuff. >> reporter: but hopkins says he got soeber in 1975 after a chat about god with someone from aa. and he now believes that his sobriety took more than just his a lot more. >> suddenly, the craving to drink vanished. it was vacuumed out of me. just vanished.
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and very sense of well-being for the first time in my life. i was about to turn 38 years of age. 38 -- that was 44 years ago almost. >> so do you think when you were 38 and able to just quit drinking, was that divine intervention? >> it's a very -- yeah, i think it was. >> do you know the beatles? >> yes, i know who they are. >> of course you do. >> eleanor rigby. >> who? >> eleanor rigby. >> i don't know her. >> "yellow submarine." >> reporter: while the film doe church, at its heart, "the two popes" is about rivals hashing out their differences. and maybe that's the point. sometimes even the most unlikely partners can end up finding some kind of harmony. is there anything else you want to touch on as a duo? >> should we do the song? >> yes.
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♪ underneath the arches i dream my dream away ♪ un rneath
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so we've all got that one friend who likes to correct our grammar on facebook or in my case, a relative. would you go out of your way to be corrected in person? here's steve hartman. >> reporter: imagine you're out walking, shopping or doing some other gerrand when a woman propositions you. >> what would you think? >> people must be very impressed when you know this kind of do y questions? >> reporter: she sets up a table just to talk about it. >> because i love grammar so much. >> you couldn't think of anything more interesting? >> but it's the anchor, like right now. we're using words. this wouldn't even be happening. we'd just be looking at each other.
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>> reporter: by day ellen jovan trains people in business communications. but her real passion is linguistics. she has a huge library of grammar and style books from arabic to zulu to share the knowledge and have some fun. she began setting up her grammar table around new york city where she lives. and it went so well, she is now taking the table to the collective noun that is america. >> on the road around the country. >> reporter: we caught up with her in new hope, pennsylvania, where ellen spent the day reminding people how to diagram sentences. >> i bet you remember this. >> reporter: explaining when to use who and whom. >> do you know why? >> reporter: and counseling people on their comma addictions. >> are you a comma user? >> yes, i probably overuse them. >> i've had a little more of an urge to leave them out >>eporter: he also answered something i've worried about. does the period have to go inside the quotation mark or can it go outside in certain circumstances? how about the story steve did on the grammar lady was interesting. where does the period go there
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because i'm using interesting in an ironic way. >> yes, i understand that completely. but it always goes inside. so in this sentence -- >> reporter: ellen says her favorite part is settling grammar disputes between husbands and wives. >> i resolved that and feel good about it. >> reporter: she said it's been very enlightening. >> in my experience, usually if a couple comes up, usually the woman is right. i mean, in my limited experience -- >> i'm grammarless right now. she hung me out like a dangling modifier. and a lot of peoppreciate her mission.this guy at a red ld now then and there. do you always capitalize after a colon? >> if it's only a piece of a sentence, definitely no cap. >> that made her day. >> bye! >> one more convert. in ellen's ever-growing army of grammar defenders. >> you will be intensify popular because people love to be corrected on their grammar. >> reporter: next lesson -- han.
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steve hartman, "on the road," in new hope, pennsylvania. it's wednesday, january 15th, 2020. this is the "cbs morning news." delivery day. the house is set to send articles of impeachment against president trump to the senate today as new evidence surfaces in the ukraine aid scandal. democratic presidential candidates clash over war and women in their final debate before the final caucuses. the highlights. and jet fuel fiasco. an airliner with trouble drops jet fuel over a wide area of los angeles, dousing a schoolyard.

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