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captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on "face the nation," house democrats wrap up their case against the president. and the white house legal team kicks off a vigorous defense of mr. trump. will there be enough republican senators voting to bring in witnesses, or is the impeachment saga neither its end? plus, this morning, a new, and around the world fears and efforts to contain the virus are growing. democrats have rested their case after 24 hours of argument, warning that if the senate doesn't take action and remove president trump from office "grave harm will come to the nation," and that the the president can't be trusted to stand up to russia.
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>> let's say they start blatantly interfering in our election again to help donald trump. can you have the least bit of confidence that donald trump will stand up to them and protect our national interests over his own personal interes?yt which makes him this country. you know you can't. >> brennan: now, it's the white house legal team's turn. they say democrats are the ones interfering and promise to make former vice president biden and his son hunter star attractions of their defense. >> they're here to perpetrate the most massive interference in an election in american history. >> and they basically said let's cancel an election over a meeting with the ukraine. >> brennan: and there is new evidence of the president's efforts to remove the ambassador
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to ukraine, marie yovanovitch, as a videotape surfaces of him talking to julian castro's associates about getting rid of her. >> the bickest problem is we have to get rid of the ambassador. she's still left over from the clinton administration. >> what ambassador, for the ukraine? >> yes, and she's telling everybody, wait, he'll get impeached. >> brennan: will the new revelations matter, or do republicans have the votes to end the trial this week? we'll hear from a key supporter of of the president, senator tom cotton, and house impeachment manager, congressman jason crow. we'll have the latest from china as the spread of the coronavirus and the efforts to contain it
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intensify. finally, with just a week before the first votes in the 2020 campaign. >> i've been doing this now for a year, and now we're down to the last few days. >> brennan: ...democratic senators stuck in washington last week are back on the campaign trail, at least for a day. our new battleground tracker shows a tight race that's turning testy out in iowa. all that and more is just ahead on "face the nation." >> brennan: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." we is have a lot to cover today with the president's impeachment trial and with the iowa caucus just a week away but we're going to begin with an update on the spread of the coronavirus as efforts are undeay diplomatsome
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enter of theoronusak, w otuesda. in.s., the are now three confirmed cases of the wuhan coronavirus, but in china, the number of confirmed cases has risen to nearly 2,000 with another 2,600 suspected cases. 15 new deaths were confirmed by chinese officials overnight, bringing the total to at least 56 deaths. cbs news asia correspondent ramy inocencio joins us. rammy. >> reporter: good morning. chinese president xi jinping says the spread of this coronavirus is now accel rathe and the country is facing a grave situation. and now in wuhan, and at least 16 other cities, more than 50 million people are now under some kind of partial or total public transport lockdown. unsettling video posted to social media shows a chaotic situation at a wuhan hospital, overcrowded conditions, and even what appears to be dead bodies
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on the floor as workers treat new patients, images that can't be independently verified by cbs news. to help con this epidemuc, the government is racing to build not just one but two hospitals to treat more than 2,000 potential patients. that's a move that spurred many people to speculate the number of infected is actually much higher than officially released numbers. vehicles have been banned from the city center, and wuhan's airport, its train station, and its bus stations all sit empty on china's lunar new year holiday. that's a week-long affair that's usually a happy family celebration. and beyond china's borders, the u.s. has now confirmed a third case of coronavirus, this one in orange county, california. that person, in good condition, according to health officials, follows cases in washington state and chicago. back in bake, th beijing, the se nearly empty and those out are wearing masks. major tourist attractions which
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would normally be packed, have now been closed, and in shanghai, shanghai disney, has closed its gates. and tonight, chinese health officials warn anyone who has been through wuhan to self-quarantine. margaret. >> brennan: that's ramy inocencio in beijing. thank you. we now turn to arkansas republican senator tom cotton. good morning, and good to have you here, senator. >> good to be on with you, margaret. >> brennan: you raised concerns earlier this week that china was giving misleading information about what's happening. president trump has since thanked china for its transparency. have your concerns abated? >> so, margaret, given china's record of dishonesty and incompetence when it comes to dealing with these pentagon health emergencies like the sars outbreak, i think this is a case where an ounce of prevention truly does equal a pound of
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cure. we know from the outset earlier this month, local chinese authorities in wuhane as forthcoming, not as quick as they could be. xi jinping said they're going to try to stoielz the response to this. hopefully they'll be more transparent. things are very fast breaking, even as the president said what he did a couple of days ago. >> brennan: you think they're getting more transparent? >> they're apparently moving this that direction. i think we should be skeptical of china because they have a history of dishonesty when it comes to this kind of outbreak and it's a serious matter. >> brennan: they are putting in travel restrictions, but do you think, as you suggested earlier this week, there needs to be a ban into the u.s. from china. >> the c.d.c. has tried to direct all air traffic from wuhan into a hand full of american airports. if that doesn't control the situation, we need to look at expanding that from all chinese travel into the united states. i also think it would be appropriate for the food and drug administration to expedite on an emergency basis approval for testing kits to state and
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local governments so you're not just depending on the federal government to test these things. again, we need to get ahead of this problem, and given china's record of dishonesty when it comes to these public health emergencies, we truly do need to use an ounce of prevention here rather than a pound of cure in a few months. >> brennan: i want to ask you about politics here at home. mitt romney, one of your republican colleagues, says he is likely to vote to call witnesses in the impeachment trial. how many other republicans do you expect to vote to approve witnesses in evidence? >> i don't know, margaret. i'm not going to vote to approve witnesses because the house democratslet have had lots of witnesses. we heard from them over and over and over again this week we don't need to prolong what has already taken five months of the american people's time. the house democrats have not proven their case against donald trump. we don't need >> ban: do you have a sense, though, there is a chance there could be witnesses, four republicans crossing-- >> i don't want to forecast what
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other senators will vote. the last five days have been a microcosm of the last five months. we listened to adam schiff drone on for three days, and the president's lawyers in just two hours demolished the case they made. >> brennan: they also have 24 hours. >> i don't think they're going to use them. yesterday they used just two hours and demolished the case the house democrats presented using selective misrepresented quotes from tape, using triments that were out of context, or just generally fulminating about how enraged they are that donald trump is still the president. >> brennan: you were scribbling notes during the trial. some of our reporters in the room saw you doing that. and i wonder, since you say we ould b tting this ovetibecausseo get to submit them and have them responded to in the next week. do you want anything answered? >> well, we'll have 16 hours of questions. so we'll have plenty of time for questions. >> brennan: do you have any? >> well, i think given the house are now real questions about joe
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biden and hunter biden's conduct. i mean, they spent hours trying to explain away what hunter biden did going to work for a corrupt ukrainian oligarch, and joe biden interfering to get that oligarch fired just days after his house was raided by investigators. i think those are serious and legitimate questions. >> brennan: but you would need to vote for witnesses to hear from the bidens which you said you would not do. >> i'd like to hear what adam schiff has to say about those facts that he, again, glossed over, that i know the white house counsel is going to present. >> brennan: but you're not going to vote-- >> i do not think we need more witnesses or documents. the house had 17 different witnesses. we saw hours of their testimony this last week. they have 28,000 pages of documents. they're not upset that they haven't had witnesses. they're upset that their witnesses haven't said what they want them to say. >> brennan: and i want to just, on the biden front, i know the president's lawyers do-- we do anticipate that they will talk about that in-- at length. let's talk about what they did you tt amisstepsi
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repeat the conspiracy theory that ukraine meddled in the 2016 election? >> margaret, that's not a conspiracy theory. >> brennan: senator john thune said he would prefer the lawyers nothe do that because the intelts community concluded it was russia that meddled. >> margaret, that's a democratic talking point. >> brennan: this is what june thune said. >> it is a democratic talking bpoint that the president said it was ukraine who interfered in our elections not russia. you can read the brief. it's clear. you can accept that russia interfered in a systematic, organized, top-down fashion in our election. i say that. i've been part of the intelligence committee that's been investigating it for years. you can also say that it's clear some ukrainian officials tried to influence the outcome of the election in 2016. >> brennan: but you're being precise in your words there, and that was not what the
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president's lawyers said on the floor. >> i'm saying exactly what the president's brief says. you can also say that countries like china and iran and north korea try to influence our elections as well. both of those things can be true. >> brennan: but you do know that the trump,a pointed election czar tdirector of national intelligence said we do not assess that any other country influenced the united states election in 2016 on the scale of what the russians did. that's an exact quote. >> but that's consistent with my point. on i said on the scale, russia was top-down, organized, systematic-- >> brennan: would you caution them to be more precise in their language. >> reporter: ...published an op-ed criticizing clump. >> brennan: that's not what the president's lawyers said on the floor. putting that aside for a moment, what can we expect from the committee you sit on, senatetelf further reports on what russia, as you just said, did do in the 2016 election? >> we're going through the
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declassification process on many of these reports. i think we'll be releasing more information soon. i expect one more set of reports to am can out later this year. but one thing, too, is when you look back at the 2016 election there's a lot that the obama administration could have done at an earlier stage to prevent russia from interfering to the extent that it did. >> brennan: there is now this 90-minute-long recording that cbs and other networks have, where president trump speaks at length with two of rudy giuliani's business associates who were involved in that pressure campaign in ukraine. we played some of it at the top of the show. when the president says, "get rid of... take her out," the u.s. ambassador to ukraine. given that the president previously said he didn't even know these men, doesn't it trouble that we now have recordings of him discussing this issue in ukraine with them? >> no, margaret. this reminds me a lot of what happened in the brett cavanaugh case when the democrats kept
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releasing supposed bombshell. i think all we're missing now is michael afnaughty to come out-- out-- >> brennan: you don't think this is damaging? >> look at the context. that video was more than a year before he asked marie yovanovitch to be removed. and he was told in that video, we just heard, that she's running around kiev bad mouthing you and saying you're going to be impeached. the president has the right to remove any ambassador for any reason whatsoever. >> brennan, yes, he does. >> an ambassador bad mouthing the president is a pretty sound reason to remove-- >> brennan: the president has the right to do that, but i think the question is why these business associates who have a financial and political interest in the matter were advising the president and yo responded and said, "okay, take her out." >> will will point out that video occurred more than a year after she was removed-- it shopped the president was not hasty, not precipitous. he didn't just act on the word of these people.
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he waited mo than a year and got more information as well upon. i think the video-- again, it reminds me a lot of what we saw in the cavanaugh controversy and i don't think it influences the vote of any senators. >> brennan: i want to ask you on another matter. iran. we know the number is 34 americans who were injured when iran fired those ballistic missiles into imissiles into a d these americans. half of them are receiving treatment. what is their status? how serious are their injuries? the military does a lot better job than 15, 20 years ago on brain injuries. when i was in iraq, if your truck was blown up, you got checked out and you were on your way. they do a much better job-- >> brennan: i want to play though-- here's how the president described it when he was asked about their injuries. >> i heard that they had headaches and a couple other things, but i would say, and i can report, it is not very serious. >> so, i think --s
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are calling for the president to apologize. should we apologize? >> he's not dismissing their injuries. >> brennan: he said, "they're headaches and not very serious." >> he's describing-- >> brennan: he said, "headaches, i don't consider them very serious." >> that's like saying having a flesh wound is not very serious-- >> brennan: veterans groups, and you are a veteran, don't think it's serious and the president may need to apologize? >> if it isn't-- if they are as a matter of fact-- iflet injuries are not serious, if they're on the less-severe side of the scale, the president is just describing what happened to them. >> brennan: so you consider a t.b.i. a serious injury? >> yes, again, there is a big scale of that that can be return to duty in one day, or have severe, lasting injury. and i think he's describing, thankfully what end of the scale that relies on. >> brennan: senator cotton, thank you for your time today.
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>> brennan: colorado democrat jason crow who presented opening arguments this week. congressman, good morning to you. >> good morning other margaret. >> brennan: you area are a first-term senator, do you think in the presentation you made that your colleagues made, that you have persuaded republicans to vote to approve witnesses? >> i hope so. i mean, overwhelmingly, the more than people support that. almost three-quarters of the american people want a fair trial, want evidence, want witnesses, want documents, and that's what they deserve. the president deserves a fair trial. the american people deserve a fair trial, and the senators who are going to have to make a really important decision here in the coming days need to have all of the evidence and the full picture in front of them. >> brennan: senator cotton was indicating you likely don't have those votes, so he didn't want to specifically say the numbers. >> you know, i don't know. i can't read people's minds.
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i know senator cotton can't read people's minds. we have to just make the best case we can. i think we did that. i think it's very compelling. clearly, the american people thought it was overwhelmingly what they're asking for her. >> brennan: on the numbers, you need four republicans to vote alongside democrats to get this approved, new evidence, new witnesses. there's been a lot of criticism, because that margin is so narrow, that you needed to really persuade those four. two of those names, senators murkowski and collins took umbrage at some of the presentation over the three days. there were complaints about repetition, complaints about style, and specifically, language used by chairman nadler and schiff. do you think democrats overplayed their hand at all? >> no, i don't. i mean, listen, the manager team is a very diverse team and background and experience, and, you know, we make cases in different ways. we have different styles. and that's fine.
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but the larger point is this isn't about any one person. this isn't about how people are feeling about this issue. everybody sitting in that chim chamber has taken an oath to be an impartial juror. we've all taken oaths to be members of congress, to put the constitution, to put the country ahead of our own personal interests and well-being. my last comments on friday night, when i closed my presentation, was about the nature of public service. >> brennan: yeah. >> i wanted to end on that because by definition, package service is about serving the country and the community and not yourself. this is not about any one person. >> brennan: you reject those criticisms. you don't think they are actually going to play a factor in votes? >> i think it's a distraction from the overall issue. we presenting overwhelming evidence of the president's misconduct. that's what this is about. it's about the president coercing an ally at war with help in the presidential campaign not about personality and issues glek one of the
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issues you focused president's lawyer jay sekulow yesterday called you out by name and he accused you of getting facts wrong when you said president trump was onlyaktan,e, where aid has been paused. does he have a point here, that the president has been opposed to foreign aid and that there have been other country where's aid has been, at least temporarily, halted? >> first off, i think it surprises nobody that the conduct of the president and those around him is about tacking people personally. he continues to do that this morning. >morning. >> brennan: he specifically talked about you getting the facts wrong. >> he did it in an attacking way. let's look at the facts and how important they are. the aid and the things they mentioned, specific examples, are radically different from what we're talking about here. first off, many of those aren't military aid programs. secondly, those that have been stalled, they've been stalled through the normal progress, because congress has not made the certifications, because the process put in place has
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identified issues that have to be resolved. in the instance of ukraine what, we're talking about here, everything that was done by the president was done outside of that process. that process had already happened. the certifications were already made. and the president himself, personally, stopped the aid from flowing, despite the fact that that process had already occurred. >> brennan: can you do anything, as a prosecutor, with the tape, the 90-minute tape we played a clip of there, of lev parnas, one of giuliani's associates? >> i've heard the tape. i know the other managers have. i know a lot of people in america have heard the tape. broadly speaking, this is ia continuation of the president's bullying and intimidation. it's what he's done for the last three, four years. and he's going to continue to do it. >> brennan: but it's not evidence you can introduce in any way? >> i think the senators have all seen it. this is a little different in most courtses where evidence continues to come out. earlier this week, as i was presenting, you know, one of the components of our case, you know, i held up a redacted set of e-mails that had just come
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out around midnight the day before. there's a lot that's still out there. the american people deserve the full picture, and that's why we're going to continue to push for additional evidence. >> brennan: quickly, adam schiff, the chairman of intelligence, that-- he raised some doubts about the election. he said that's what this is all about. we cannot be assuredlet vote will be fairly won what chairman schiff was trying to say here was there's a lot of reason to be concerned. >> brennan: okay, thank you. >> and there is. the bottom line is the president has a pattern and practice of trying to invite foreign interference in our elections, and that's what this is about. >> brennan: all right, congressman, thank you. >> thank you
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