captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington. this week on "face the nation", the state of nevada declared bernie sanders the winner in the democratic contest as the candidates move to south carolina for the next primary contest, the question is, is there anything or anyone who can stop him? plus, intelligence officials tell congress the russians are at it again. this time, they're interfering in the democratic primary race as well as the president's re-election campaign. but the white house denies it, saying it's all disinformation. it was bernie sanders who came out the big winner in saturday's contest in nevada. >> we have just put together

the a multigenerational multiracial coalition which is going to not only win in vadait this country. >> brennan: well back of sanders is former vice president joe biden who hoped for strong support in the state where a third of democratic caucus voters are minorities. >> we're alive, and coming back, and we're going to win. >> democratic voters and even president trump is asking the question. >> what is wrong with you joe? >> brennan: he said despite early losses he's going to do well in the next round. >> i'm going all the way through. >> brennan: as intelligence officials warn at least two 2020 candidates are being helped by the russian interference, one candidate says he won't stand for it. >> what i say to mr. putin, when i'm elected president, you are not going to be interfering in elections felt >> president trump says no one

is helping him. we'll hear from robert o'brien. >> there's no briefing that i received or the president received that says pr d anythin influence the elections in favor of presi nation". good morning, and help to "face the nation". it was a big win for senator bernie sanders in yesterday's nevada caucuses with half of the precincts reporting he stands at 47%. well behind him is former vice president joe biden is 19%, followed by south bend mayor pete buttigieg with 15. >> massachusetts senator, elizabeth warren stands at 10% followed by amy klobuchar with 5%. and tom steyer with 4%.

cbs elections and survey director anthony salvanto is here to tell us more. anthony, what is behind the senator's decisive win? >> we tver electorahe democrats f look how well bernie sanders did with key parts. latino voters, 51%, well ahead of everybody else. and young people for bernie sanders coalition. very well again. let me also show you labor union households where he also won despite back and forth controversy during the campaign. all of this is going to bolster sanders argument he can put together a diverse coalition going forward. >> brennan: anthony salvanto breaking down the details. we'll hear from anthony later in the broadcast as well. as nevada caucuses were going on we spoke with joe biden.

he said he was confident in south carolina and beyond. >> the latest background polling shows your lead with black voters is thinning out. in november you were 54%. it's now 35%. that's a 19 point difference. what's happening? >> what's happening is you have steyer spending millions of dollars out campaigning there. so i think a lot is happening in terms of the amount of money being spent by the billionaires to cut into the african-american vote. that has a lot to do with if. >> south carolina was your firewall. >> you said it. >> you're campaign said it. >> i said i'll do well there. >> what does do well mean for you? >> you guys can do all the pontificateing. that's not my job. my job is to make the best case i can. i think we'll do well. and go on to super tuesday and

do well. >> your campaign is second place. and a sigh of relief to be in south carolina. >> i'm not a pundit. i'm a candidate, and i'm going all the way through this thing. >> you mentioned steyer, and the amount of money he's spending in south carolina. >> a lot of money. >> itrmming away at your support. >> i assume that's part of the reason. i don't know. >> what do you think of that? >> we'll see. you guys love this stuff. i'm not into this. let's see what happens. >> you're watching this. >> i'm not watching it. i run it for the same reason i started. to restore dignity to the office and make sure african-americans and minorities get treated well, and rebuild the middle class. and to unify the country and the party felt nothing changed why i'm running. i'm going to continue that.

>> why does joe biden want to be president? what's the key thing driving you to achieve? >> we have to restore the integrity of this country internationally. we have to get off the effort on the president's part to divide the country. we have to bring the middle class back. we have to have a health care policy which makes sense which i can do by building on obama care. and we have to have an immigration policy that's rational and represents who we are. those are the reasons i'm running among others. the next president of the united states is going to have to stand on the stage day one and lead the world. they're going to be have be able to know what they're doing internationally, and know who the person is, and know the person knows them. i'm the best qualified person by a long shot to do that. >> bernie sanders -- can you stop him in terms of the momentum he has?

the bloomberg campaign is out saying for moderate the like yourself, he's going to end up with an insurmountable delegate lead. >> i'm not going to play this game wu. i don't know. it's not whether i stop him. it's why i'm running. i'm telling people why i should be the next president and the best guy to beat thump. i'm want person most likely to beat trump. i'm not person that in fact in those polls. in addition to that, i'm the only one in terms of the russians and all the stuff you're reporting -- the russians don't want me to be a nominee. spent a lot of money on bots on facebook. no one is helping me. >> who informed you? has facebook or u.s. intelligence officials told you? >> i haven't spoken to intelligence. i k the intelligence community

should inform the rest of us running what they told senator sanders. >> there's no date for that to happen? >> not that i'm aware of. >> but you're asking for it? >> they should. >> you talked about facebook and them alerting you. >> i was told that there are a lot of bots on facebook, and they've been taken down. so -- fake accounts, and they're taken down. i didn't get a call from facebook. i was told by my staff. >> i know you've been critical of senator sanders for not being strong enough in condemnation of the vitriolic sentiment on line. and senator sanders came out with a statement that perhaps some of this may be fueled by the russians. in other words, they're not actually his supporters. do you buy that? >> look, the people who occupy my office, maybe they were

russians. but they said they were bernie supporters. the people who occupy my office and did terrible things to the culinary workers and the women who run that operation, i guess anything is possible, but they're identified as bernie supporters. i'm not making a comment yaubd that. there should be condemnation of the conduct of these folks engaging in that major and the misogynistic behavior against the culinary workers, and people coming into my office in the first two primaries and have to call the police to get them out. there's trump-like stuff. this is not stuff to be done in democratic primaries before. >> when he says the ugly stuff may be because of the russians, sounds like you're saying no. >> i don't know. >> all of us would like to know a little more what's happening, but u.s. intelligence hasn't made this public yet. the white house isn't shedding

much light. the bottom line seems to be -- >> right now the president is angry bausz the intelligence committee, in fact, informed bernie sanders, and i guess others, and members of the intelligence community that, in fact, the russians want to see trump re-elected and they like bernie. >> we spoke to the vice president who denied the preference is for trump. you know in 2016 it was -- >> all i know -- no one confideed in me. i have no inside information. >> doesn't all of this shake the confidence of the american people to a certain extebt in terms of the integrity of the election itself? this is at the heart of democracy. >> i've been saying this over three years. the president denies they're involved. they're been involved. i was deeply involved in the intelligence apparatus before i left the vice president.

the president continues to deny their involvement. the fact is everybody knows. when the president stands before the whole world and looks at vladimir putin and say why would he want to interfere in the election? the intelligence agents told me. this is bizarre. this is bizarre. this is continuing. why in god's name haven't we hardened the process, and provideed hundreds of millions of dollars to make sure they can't be attacked by cyber security. why haven't we provideed the capacity for them to be able to have the money to have paper ballots in addition. this is outrageous, and it's going on. look, i joined with the leaders of europe when the european elections took place back before i got involved, and decided to run, and we set up an organization that, in

fact, said every european leader running in either party would take a pledge, that if you have negative information about 99 someone else from a foreign source you would not use it. if you got information, you would report it. i took that pledge. >> have you asked colleagues to do that? >> i said that on stage. i think we should all take that pledge. >> you were in office, obviously when all of this interference was first detected? >> yes. >> since that time a senate intelligence committee faulted the obama administration for its response and said the actions taken undermine public confidence in the election, and allowed for further russian interference. do you agree with these findings? >> not at all. not at all. we went out and went to the committee, went to the republican leadership and said look, this is what we have.

the intelligence community did. this is what we have. join us in condemning what's happening. and the republican leader in the senate said i want no part of it. and everything subsequent to that reinforceed what we were saying. should the president have come along and said this is happening, and then accused of we were someone -- we alone were doing something. >> but in hindsight, you know where the story ends up. do you think there are lessons for the administration to learn? >> it's not that they're incapable. they like this. come on. be fair here. they've known this for a long time, for three years. every intelligence agent has told them they continue to be engaged. every intelligence agent told me they were engaged before. there's not a question anymore. there's never been a question forward the last three years.

whootion he doing? zero. what is the senate and congress doing? zero. >> we'll is more of the interview with the former vice president in the next half hour, we'll be back in one minute with robert o'brien. what i love most about being a scientist at 3m is that i'm part of a community of problem solvers. we make ideas grow. from an everyday solution... to one that can take on a bigger challenge. we are solving problems that improve lives. the one thing you learn pretty quickly, is that there's a lot to learn. grow with google is here to help you with turning ideas into action. putting your business on the map, connecting with customers, and getting the skills to use new tools. so, in case you're looking,

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president that this particular u.s. intelligence finding was real. he strongly disputed it. >> i haven't seen the finding. i think what he's referring to, and what folks are talking about is a briefing that took place at the white house intelligence committee that was leaked to the press, and i have not seen that report. i get this second hand. but from republican congressmen that were on the committee there was no intelligence behind it. i haven't seen intelligence to support the report leaked. >> brennan: but the white house awe briefed, were you not in the briefing when the president was informed? >> well, there's no briefing that i've received, that the president has received that says president putin is doing anything to try and influence the elections in favor of president trump. we haven't seen the intelligence. i'm surprised i haven't seen it. again, i don't know where this is coming from. i've heard the rumors and leaks from adam schiff's committee. i haven't seen them.

>> brennan: to clarify, are you saying that mr. mcguire, the former acting director of tional intelligence did object inform you about the u.s. intelligence community's findings? >> i think -- again, i don't want to get into private conversations in a presidentialidatey brief, but i don't think mcguire was necessarily informed what was going to happen at the hearing in the house. there's nothing he's given, and no information admiral mcguire gave us or the new acting dni that comports with what was leaked out of the house intel committee. i haven't seen it, the leaders of the intelligence committee i've spoken with haven't seen anything that comports with it. i don't know if that's what the briefers say >> brennan: the director of national intelligence mcguire did brtified that

russia continues to try and influence the elections mainly through social media manipulation. so this the pattern of behavior continues. werd from the fbi happening? is that russia would like bernie sanders to win the democrat nomition that, and probably like him to be president, understandably, because he wants to spend money on social programs and take it out of the military. that would make sense. look, the russians have always tried to interfere with elections. they want to undermine our democracy. but the idea they want toness nr the elections somehow to cause the president to win, i don't see it. i i think a number of country, china, north korea, iran would like to influence our elections to get the candidate they feel is best for their country. >> brennan: so you're saying it's not, in fact, the u.s. intelligence community's

assessment that russia has a preference for president trump? >> i haven't seen that, and again, why would they have a prchs for trump who isiving ukranians lethal aid to fight russian troops. we want good relations with rush a. we'd like to have great relations. i haven't seen intelligence there's active measures by the russians to get the president re-elected. and we have a message for any country that melgtsdss with the elections. stay out of our democratic elections. we're doing everything we can. we're working with state and local officials and many cases going to paper ballots to make sure that governments with ill intent can't hack websites and can't get involved and change results. we're going to work on election security very hard in the federal government and also with the state and local partners. >> brennan: why not have the intelligence community testify in public about what they are

seeing, so that the public can arm themselves so that they can understand what is disinformation and what is fact? why not declassify some of it? >> i have no problem with that. that's not my decision, and the intelligence community is concerned about sources and methods. i understand that. but i personally have no problem -- >> brian: back in october of 2016 when russia was doing the disinformation campaign of the obama administration, they did declassify information at that time. there's a precedent. why doesn't the trump administration do that? >> i think we can declassify, and that's all the better. again, we weren't in office in 2016 when the last election meddling took place, and the administration did very little about it. everyone admits that very little was done about it. we're in office now, and we're doing everything we can across the interagency and with state and federal and local partners to ensure that american

ballots are secure, and our ballot machines are secure, the tabulations are secure. the secretary of state web sites are security. we want a free and fair election that americans select the president, not a foreign country. and the president is deadly serious >> brennan: i want to ask you about afghanistan. if the taliban does not make good to pull back on violence and sign the deal at the end of the month is the president's position to stop the troop withdrawal? >> the president made is clear the last time we were close to signing a deal with the taliban and they engaged in activity, and an ied killed an american, and the president pulled back from signing. we're hopeful to get to a place where the afghans can talk and negotiate a resolution, a political resolution to conflict. we've been there 19 years. it's time to stop bringing our sons and daughters through

dover air force base. we've got to get out of the war in afghanistan but in a way that protects american interest. if the taliban does not live up to the agreement on the reduction of violence plan, we'll take a look at it, and unlikely to sign a peace treaty. but we're not going to reduce troops to a level to protect partners in afghanistan. i, assure you of that. >> brennan: ambassador o'brien thank you for joining us. great to be here. >> brennan: the trump official overseeing election security reported to congress that russia was interfering in the election, and has shown a preference for president trump. but sources tell major garrett there was bipartisan push back and questions about the strength of the evidence. congress has requested to see the underlying intelligence and back up of assessment. the national security adviser

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>> that's something. we have to make it clear to countries around the world that we will not sit by and allow invasions to take place. >> would you meet? >> yes. i've criticized everything under the sun. but meeting with people who are antagonistic is to me not a bad thing to do. i think, unfortunately, trump went into that meeting unprepared. i think it was a photo opportunity, and did not have the diplomatic work necessary to make it a success. but i do not have a problem with sitting down with adversaries all over the world. >> brennan: and national security is just one of the many topics we'll be asking the candidates about in the cbs news south carolina democratic debate on tuesday in charleston. be sure to join us on the cbs network and cbs tonight.

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>> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation". as the democratic race moves on to south carolina, that primlld next saturday. we have a cbs news battleground tracker out this morning. it shows former vice president joe biden on top of the field there where 28% support of likely democratic primary voters. he's leading, but that's a 17 point drop since our last south carolina poll in november. senator bernie sanders is not far behind. billionaire tom steyer is at 18. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren is next with

12% followed by southbend indiana mayor pete buttigieg at 10. and the amy klobuchar is at 4%. former new york mayor michael bloomberg is not on ony to hrto explain all the numbers. what more can you tell us about the primary shaping up? >> underneath that shrinking lead for joe biden is two more things. he's still on top with african-american voters who make up most of the democrats, the lead is much smaller now, and he has to share that support with bernie sanders and with tom steyer. also, when you look at who black voters think understands their concerns, that's joe biden, but also increasingly bernie sanders and tom steyer. the other part of this is frankly not winning. this is the mechanics of momentum that the pundits talk about. voters in south carolina say they think it's less likely that joe biden will ultimately win the democratic nomination

and they look at other candidates. what is it that those other voters know that we should reassess. >> brennan: let's look at nationwide. right now bernie sanders is on top with 28% support of likely democratic primary voters. elizabeth warren comes in behind him with 19%, followed by former vice president oe biden at 17. formr new york city mayor is sitting out the first four contests and comes in at 13%. pete buttigieg is next at 10%. amy klobuchars has 5. tom steyer has 2. no nationwide, bernie sanders is still beating joe biden. >> he is, and he wasn't always. this was done before last night's big win for sanders in nevada. so a couple of things happen here. one is the electability argument. voters look at what's happening in these states and say who do they think can put

together a coalition that can win. we see joe biden widely seen as having a chance to beat president trump. bernie sanders also is. and quite frankly when democrats look at a match up against president trump across the electorate, it's for all the democrats. joe biden, bernie sanders, narrow leads at best within the margeib of error. >> brennan: but the candidates have a chance to rub elbows and distinguish themselves tuesday on the debate stage here on cbs. who succeeds in that arena? >> debates matter. one example is elizabeth warren who still sell doing okay nationally. people told us that they thought her debate informance last time was most impressive. that could be helping bolster her national support, and you also look at by comparison joe biden's debate ranking lower

than that. there's a lot of pressure on the candidates heading into the tuesday debate. >> brennan: anthony salvanto, thank you very much. and now we turn to our political correspondent, ed o'keefe out in las vegas getting ready to head to south carolina. ed, good morning to you. what does joe biden need to do to challenge sanders front-runner status? >> win south carolina. he'll spend the week there saying he's the best to defeat president trump and can build a multigenerational coalition is to do it. he's going to struggle with that. he had an interesting line we're going to hear more of. he said i'm not a socialist or plutocrat, i'm a democrats saying he's the best at defeating president rump. >> brennan: we know michael bloomberg is not on the ballot, but he's going to be on the debate stage tuesday. how does he need to preparep e

focus on sand erds and make the argument it's dangerous to nominate him because he wouldn't be able to attract independents and disgruntled republican voters that the democrats need to win back the white house. he's going to continue to face questions about business practices and decision to release three employees from non-disclosure. and elizabeth warren hammers away at him. and it works from a financial sense. he's raised a lot of money since the debate, and there's evidence that her debate informance helped her. most of these candidates will be campaigns not just in south carolina but in 14 other states voteing on super tuesday. texas, north carolina, north dakota, arkansas, colorado. they won't all be in south carolina twe there's huge prizes to be earned on march 3rd. >> brennan: we'll be seeing

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for the taliban or isis or al-queda to reestablish a foothold there to go from afghanistan to united states to attack the united states. that requires a much smaller footprint. i understand we're not drawing down to a level even as low as when we left afghanistan. >> brennan: about 8600. >> we'll see. it's premature to make the judgment as to whether or not this is a good deal or not a good deal. >> brennan: as you just said in the course of your answer there, you do think there should be some u.s. presence that remains? >> a very small presence to determine whether or not -- i mean a small footprint. >> brennan: what does that look like? >> several thousand people. to make sure we have a place from which we can operate if, in fact, you find amassing a taliban capacity -- excuse me. al-queda and/or isis capacity to strike the united states like happened in 9/11.

>> brennan: the "washington post" quoted you this week saying back in 2010 you said to richard holbrook, i'm not sending myoy boys back there tol risk their lives. it won't work, it's not what we're there for. is that how you remember it? >> yes. what i meant is there's a thousand places we could go to deal with injustice. i can think of 10 countries 3 where women and children and/or people are persecuted or hurt. but the idea of us be able to use armed forces to solve every single internal problem that exists throughout the world is not within our capacity. the question is, is america's vital self-interest at stake or the vital self-interest of one of our allies at stake? the fact they have a system in afghanistan as they do in pakistan, as they do in parts of other countries, that we're going to send troops because

there's not zoo-human rights are not valued to the same degree we are, that's a different story about sending combat troops. we should call it out and to to the united nations and try to shame and get the world to put pressure, and economic pressure on countries who engage in that, but not send troops. that's what i meant. it's not sufficient. that was my point, and the idea was, and i think richard said well, women are being abused there. they're abused a lot of places around the world. are we going to send forces around the world. >> brennan: don't you bear responsibility when the taliban is back in control? >> no, i dent. are you telling me go to war with china because of what thy're doing in the western concentration camps? is that what you're saying? >> brennan: i'm asking -- >> do i bear responsibility?

zero responsibility. the responsibility i have is to protect americans national zest interest, and not put our women and men in harm's way to solve every single problem in the world by use of force. that's my responsibility as president. and that's what i'll do as president. >> brennan: we'll be right back with our political panel. this is a story of the american dream. it starts here, in a middle class neighborhood with a middle class kid named mike. when his father died, his mother went to work and became the breadwinner. she instilled in mike a belief in hard work and a drive to build a better life. so he started a company from scratch with an idea and endless hours- today, that makes him the only democrat in the race

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>> brennan: it's time now for some political analysis from our panel. susan page is a washington bureau chief of usa today. lonny patterson. dan bald at the post. and political correspondent, and columnist at the "new york times". good to have you aural here. lonny, i want to start on the fundamental duty of what is central to our democracy whi is our election process actually works. and under mining faith in the integrity of the election is a massive risk.

i mean everyone can agree on that. what we've heard is frankly confuseing. and national security adviser robert o'brien said not just that he had not seen the underlying intelligence that russia was interveneing with a preference for trump, but also never received a briefing to that effect. he also told us in the interview that the fbi did tell him that russia was intervening to help sanders. the president said he wasn't told that. what should americans at home understand from that? bottom line, the national >>hnk sad that at the to hof end. he made the point regardless who is doing this it's the job of this administration to protect the integrity of the

election process and the integrity of the process. i think some of the confusion that's ariseing is because they're trying to turn things on very specific indications of what did and did not happen. for example, the administration is saying the president may not have been briefed on the underlying intelligence, but surely the president was provideed an interpretation of the data. what they're trying to say is he hasn't seen the underlying evidence which is not unusual. that may be true. but what we could benefit from is clarity in terms of exactly whal intelligence community is seeing if they're helping bernie sanders. if that's an assessment comfortable with, that should be shared. if there's confusion, i think o'brien's is right that the sbiligence ought to be declassified. >> brennan: he said you didn't do that. >> he said -- that will give the american people comfort with what's going on.

there's no question there's confusion. >> brennan: russia may want trump reelected and what sanders re-elected. what they wanted us to believe is that it's an election we have trust. they're succeeding on that front >> brennan: and it was your paper, "washington post" that reported russia trying to interfere with the democratic contest. >> what is unusual is to have a national security adviser talk about that in a political context. there was reaction to o'brien commenting in that way. it's unusual for somebody in that position to do so. >> it's not just unusual, it's supposedly not allowed. the national security adviser is supposed to be an official in the national security realm and not involved in partisan

politics. any suggestion that puts him in that realm undermines the role he's supposed to be playing. >> brennan: the theory of the case here as susan was saying is that division, confusion, that's the end game in and of itself. notwithstanding having a particular candidate per se. it's just getting people to doubt the institutions are functions. can democrats form an united front here, or are they falling prey to some of this? you heard is come up with the biden interview as well. he said i don't buy these are russian bots interfering and spreading hate online. that senator sanders is responsible for some of it. >> i think the first step democrats have to do is what senator sanders said when he was told, disavow the interference, to say that if you elect a president, he will

reject anything like that, and try to stop any kind of election interference into the country. and the entire democratic party goes, there needs to be sort of two things going on. first, yes an awareness that alliance forms that there may be russian trolls trying to stir up things. but not lean on the explanation. for the specific reason that it doesn't undermine people's faith in what is happening. on the question of online division, maybe that does require all cabbedidates rights to say anyone in our camp doing these things needs to cut it out which is what the candidates have been saying. i would recommend fixing the problem, and facing the process to not immediately jump to russiana bots. that, i think does sew mistrust and fear. >> brennan: one of the things that makes sanders a candidate

certainly contrast in joe biden and what he describes there -- is also his rhetoric. he treated and got deference this week, i've get news for the republican and democratic establishment, they can't stop us. that was not a message of unity, but this is an insurgency which is divisive. >> it is. i'm not sure -- thesis things informed by previous elections. when compareed to language from 2008 or 2004, it's not that divisive. i remember in 2008 the democratic primary, clinton, obama throwing extremely hard punches at each other, saying things that in the moment made it feel like there may not be unity since the primary ended. but what happens is the unity of the party got back

together. sanders calling out the republican and democratic establishment that's his brand as a politician. i don't think it's relative to past conduct, or relative to this contest or divisive. i see it as part of everyone's brand when it comes to the role they're playing. >> i think it's quite divisive in that he's speaking to his base. he's communicating to his supporters. we've seen this movie before, by the way in terms of how candidates communicate to the people who support him. his messagea,

the democratic establishment needs to wake up. bloomberg could turn his advertising after sanders. party establishment is divided. joe biden is making the argument

that argument is hand cut but your point about democratic establishment bloomberg d isg after sanders. joe biden is making the argument that argument is hand cut

i can't imagine the kinds of people >> i don't think can win. i think it's worth saying in that regards. that the analogy to donald trump falls apart when it comes to favorability at this stage of the race. sanders 70% of democrats have a favorable view of sand erds. that's higher than any other candidates in the race, and for all the talk of reconstituting the obama coalition has been the drum beat the past three years. sanders seems to be the one doing it, right. we saw this in nevada, pulling minority voters and young and voters into something that looks like an electoral juggernaut. the certainty among the

establishment such as it is that sand erds is unelectable runs into the fact that looking at what we know so far, he appears to be quite electable based on the measures used for everyone else. >> brennan: lonny, i want to ask you about someone you work for. rick grenel who stepped into the director of nationsal intelligence role. he has no intelligence background. what do you think of that at this moment? >> the president puts people around him he's comfortable with and believes will be loyal to him. the president has that prerogative, by the way. it's not clear to me this is going to be a permanent appointment. i would say there's a number of people who probably will be a better permanent appointment than rick grenel. he has some spfrns some experie this point the president would be better to pick somebody with that experience.

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