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difficult time. thank you and have a wonderful wednesday and hope to see you back here tomorrow morning at 4:30 am. have a good one.
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day. that's the highest yet. we'll ask dr. deborah birx of the white house task force about that spike, plus possible new guidelines to get americans back to work. on the front lines. hear from grocery store workers risking their health to stock the shelves. how they want their companies to keep them safe. lockdown lifted. china ends the travel ban in wuhan, the original epicenter of the global coronavirus outbreak. why experts are worried about a second wave. and remembering a folk legend. the legacy of grammy-winning singer/songwriter john prine who died of coronavirus complications. >> very sorry to hear that news. first, here's today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. >> by the time we get to the fall, we will have this under control enough that it certainly will not be the way it is now. >> reporter: the u.s. has again set a record for deaths in a single day. >> we want to start hitting the downside. i think we're going -- this is going to be a very difficult week, however. this week will be a very difficult week. >> continue to practice physical distancing. let's not run the 90-yard dash. we still have an enormous amount of work ahead of us. >> reporter: the uk has suffered its worst day so far with the highest rise in fatalities. this as the prime minister
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remains in intensive care. >> remains in good spirits, and his progress continues to be monitored closely in critical care. >> reporter: voters in wisconsin participating in democracy at a distance. long lines outside voting locations despite pandemic concerns. >> i have food. i have water. i have a lawn chair. i have a mask. >> reporter: the resurgence of the milk man. people are relying on an old-fashioned way of doing things to keep their fridge stocked. all that -- >> everyone's going a little nuts. one of our writers found himself lysoling his lysol yesterday. if you did infect a disinfectant, does it become an infectant? all that matters -- >> ufc getting a private island. come to the island of manhattan and try to get toilet paper. it's a blood bath and nothing to wiwipe it up with. the death of a legend, american singer/songwriter john prine has dead following complications of covid-19.
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>> when i get to heaven, i'm going to shake god's hand. i'm going to thank him for more blessings than one man can stand. then i'm going to get a guitar and start a rock and roll band. check into a swell hotel. after the afterlife grand? then i'm going to get a -- ♪ >> this morning's "eye opener" is presented by toyota. ♪ >> aw, john prine. anthony, i have to say when i heard the noise, i thought of you and john dickerson because you both have done trick pieces on him and got to meet him. >> yeah. and the news came last night. incredibly sad news. john prine beat cancer twice but could not beat the coronavirus. we'll have a tribute to him later in the show. by the way, the song he was singing at the end, "when i get to heaven," was his last song on his last album. gayle?
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>> wow. well, of course, we will have more on john prine a little bit later on in this newscast. we welcome you to "cbs this morning." as you see, we are broadcasting from our homes to yours. we hope everybody, everybody is following the guidance to stay home as much as possible. so you know we're committed to continuing to give you the news you need during this crisis. even while we practice social distancing and hope you are, too. and that's where we will begin with coronavirus, of course, because it has been a painful 24 hours in this country. nearly 2,000 americans died of the coronavirus yesterday. that's the most in a single day by far. this chart shows in very stark terms just how fast we got here. just think about this -- five weeks ago, only nine people in the u.s. had died from the virus. you can see how the toll has certainly accelerated since then. anthony? >> and hospitals are still trying to find room for all the patients who need treatment. our lead national correspondent, david begnaud, is outside new york city's javits convention center.
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it is now an army field hospital. david, what is happening inside? >> reporter: there are only 66 patients inside, but they can hold so many more. here's what's being done to increase the number quickly. you see the buses? they just pulled up. they are picking up medical personnel to take to hospitals around the city. the medical personnel from the military is going to start the transfer process to speed it up. to get the patients here because they can hold as many as 2,500 inside the javits center. the state of new york is in the middle of the deadliest week yet. around 730 people died on tuesday alone. that's nearly one person every two minutes. >> behind every one of those numbers is an individual, is a family, is a mother, is a father, is a sister, is a brother. >> reporter: the city is converting one of the largest churches in the world into yet another field hospital. there is some good news.
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governor andrew cuomo says that the state appears to be reaching a plateau in terms of hospitalizations. >> we've been called to the -- >> reporter: dr. sanam ahmed who works in critical care at mt. sinai hospital here in new york recorded this video diary. she says she's been encouraged by the number of patients who are coming off of the ventilators. >> it's sort of a reminder of the resilience that we have as human beings. >> reporter: top health officials are concerned about growing data come shows that people of color are at greater risk. the elderly population is also being hit hard. at nursing homes around the country. there have now been 42 deaths at the life care center in kirkland, washington. another 32 people passed away at the canterbury rehabilitation and health care center in virginia. and the elizabeth center in new jersey has lost t at least 12 residents. in los angeles county, the public health director now says
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it's appropriate to pull loved ones out of long-term care facilities if you are able to care for them at home. >> she's definitely worried. i think she thinks this is it for her. >> reporter: wendi ezzes mother dorothy lives at an assisted living facility near los angeles. she's unsure whether bringing her home is the right thing to do. she called her tuesday night. >> if you would feel safer here, we'd love to have you here. >> i know, i love that thought. and i know you're superwoman, and you can do anything. but i don't think you could protect me from this. >> reporter: and here's hope for those on the other side. david lat spent most of the last month battling covid-19 including 17 days in the hospital, six of those on a ventilator. he says he did receive at least four different drugs, the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin.
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>> it's hard to tell whether the medications helped, hurt, worked together. it's hard to tell. that's why we need more research in this area. >> reporter: david's 44 years old. he's a lawyer in new york city. he only had exercise induced asthma as a pre-existing condition. he is home this morning. and the simple task of getting from the couch to the kitchen, he says, leaves him out of breath. the bottom line, he is a survivor. >> yeah. more than a quarter of a million survivors globally. important to highlight that, as well. we appreciate that report. now to washington where president trump is threatening to pull u.s. funding from the world health organization. the w.h.o. sent out multiple coronavirus alerts earlier this year. in fact, declaring it a global health emergency in january. the president largely dismissed those warnings saying also in january it's going to be just fine. that's a direct quote. as ben tracy reports, mr. trump claiaims the w.h.o. failed. >> they called it wrong. they missed the call. >> reporter: the president is shifting blame for the spread of the coronavirus to the world
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health organization, saying it should have provided better warnings. >> they didn't report it. if they did -- they must have seen it, but they didn't report it. >> reporter: the organization labeled coronavirus a global health emergency in january. >> i'm declaring the public health emergency of international concern. >> reporter: meanwhile, the president says he was not aware of memos written by his trade adviser, peter navarro, in late january and february that warned of a full-blown covid-19 pandemic that could infect 100 million americans. >> i heard he wrote memos talking about pandemic. i didn't see them, i didn't look for them either. >> reporter: the president did ban most travel from china and formed a coronavirus task force in late january but downplayed the threat publicly. >> i think it's going to be under control. >> reporter: the president now says he did not want to alarm the country. >> reporter: you said within a couple of days the cases will be down to zero? >> i'm a cheerleader for this country. i don't want to create havoc and
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shock and everything else. but ultimately, when i was saying that, i'm closing it down. i obviously was concerned about. it. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," ben tracy, the white house. dr. deborah birx is the white house coronavirus response coordinator and joins us now with more on this story. dr. birx, thank you so much for joining us. i know you are very, very busy these days. i want to start with the numbers. again here in new york because there are now 730 more families who are mourning the loss of a loved one. yet despite the devastating number, there do appear signs in new york that the virus is slowing here, the spread of the virus is slowing. what is the data showing you all, and what does that mean for other states? >> thank you for recognizing the impact that this virus is having on families, on communities, on counties, and on states. and i think really when you work on pandemics, you have to always be conscious that there are human beings behind each one of the numbers.
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so we do track the numbers very carefully. we track the numbers because they were a reflection of what's happening to people in the community. we are beginning to see some flattening of the number of new cases per day in specific metro areas. remember, we do this granularly. we look at the county level. we triangulate testing data with case data with hospitalizations, with icus, and the deaths that are occurring to get a full picture of what's happening community by community. >> the cdc we're hearing is reportedly considering easing the guidelines for workers in critical jobs if they're asymptomatic. what can you tell us about that? >> i think they're going to publish it today. it's a very important piece because it looks at degree of exposure and really making it clear that exposure occurs within six feet for more than 15 minutes.
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really understanding where you shouldn't be within six feet of people right now. but if you're in a work situation where you have to be, there will be a series of recommendations that if you had had a significant exposure of what specifically to do. and if you've had a less exposure, what to do. we really want to thank all of our critical frontline workrs. the health care workers. but also the individuals driving the trucks and bringing food to grocery stores and making sure that we have the ability to have the essentials that we need every day. >> i would imagine you don't want to step into this controversy that the president apparently has created where he's blasted the w.h.o. does he have a point for blaming them? what he says, for spreading the virus? does he have a point? >> you know, the w.h.o. can only react to the data it's given. and when you go back and look at the timeline, it wasn't until i think almost the middle of january that china reported that there was human-to-human
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transmission. we have to really investigate reporting and how the reports were received there. i think it did delay the ability to declare this a global pandemic, an emergency. we can do all of that when we get through this as a global community to really understand how to do this better the next time. >> dr. fauci says, listen, we all know that summer plans look dicey right now. dr. fauci said something i think was encouraging to a lot of parents -- that he thinks schools will be able to go back in session in the fall. do you see that, as well? >> we're very encouraged about -- no one has done this kind of mitigation before. i just want to be very clear, nowhere around the world have we done what we're doing together as a global community, and specifically as americans here in the united states. we're learning every day how to do it, how to do it better, what needs to be done.
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all of this was theory et ic until we saw the incredible impact of mitigation in california and washington state. and beginning to see those early chutes of success and mitigation in the large metro areas. these are what we're learning from. we'll learn also clearly what happens in china now that they've opened things back up. we're watching closely. i think we're better prepared for analyzing what's happening now and what's going to happen in the future. >> dr. deborah birx. thank you. always good to see you. may we say i hope your granddaughter is better. you talked about her with the 105 fever. we gasped at that. >> five days of that was tough, but now she has the rash, so i noti roseola, so i'm very relieved.
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>> rash looks good under the circumstances. >> yes. >> tony? >> a rash does look good. it was nice to hear dr. birx say that frontline workers with more than just health care workers. there are all kind of frontline workers. that's where we're going to go now, to grocery stores. at least five employees at supermarket chains across the country have died from the virus including two at the same chicago area walmart. walmart says it is, quote, heartbroken by those deaths. it faces a wrongful death lawsuit from the family of one of those workers. our adriana diaz spoke to the sister of the other worker who died. everybody at walmart loved him. >> reporter: when angela mcmillan called to check on her brother thomas at the hospital, a nurse came to the phone instead. >> said, we did everything we could. and i said, wait a minute, are you telling me my brother passed away? >> reporter: 48-year-old thomas, who'd worked for walmart for nine years, died two days after calling an ambulance for himself after struggling to stand up. do you think if your brother was wearing a mask and gloves at work? >> i don't think they were wearing -- none of them were
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wearing masks and gloves. >> reporter: for employees trying to keep up with customer demands, there's no break. >> what do we want -- >> ppe -- >> reporter: tuesday, grocery store workers in boston demanded masks and gloves, fully paid sick leave, and hazard pay. some stores have installed floor markers and plexiglass including walmart. the company is limiting customers in stores, providing masks and gloves for employees who want them, and taking their temperatures upon arrival. >> these measures should have been taken from day one. >> reporter: that's not stopping attorney tony kalogerakos from suing walmart on behalf of rolando evans who died from the virus the same week. the wrongful death suit claims the store failed to notify employees that others had symptoms of the virus. >> i am concerned because i'm a walmart consumer. i love walmart. so to think that i have to risk my life when i walk through the door is scary.
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>> reporter: walmart responded to the wrongful death suit saying it's taking the issue seriously and will respond in court once it receives the complaint. it's not known if the employees contracted the virus while working here at this store. of course, any essential employees faced increased exposure despite leaving their homes and being around others. anthony? >> thank you. tens of thousands of people left wuhan, china, this morning for the first time in 2.5 months. china's government just lifted travel restrictions on the city where the worldwide coronavirus outbreak began. ramy inocencio shows us a region possibly on the rebound. >> reporter: at the stroke of midnight, wuhan celebrated liberation from its 76-day lockdown, honoring its frontline workers in a light show. drivers sped off as highways reopened, and high-speed trains departed just after dawn.
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along city streets, cherry trees are now blossoming as shoppers return to reopened stores. a stark contrast to a city that just days ago was under one of the largest lockdowns in history. cbs news was the first u.s. news network to report from wuhan in january. our team evacuated just before the city went into confinement. a measure that grew to more than 60 million people across china. emergency hospitals sprung up almost overnight, and empty streets were the new normal. those who disobeyed containment were beaten, hauled away, or sealed in their homes by authorities. 21-year-old megan monroe has been in wuhan since the lockdown began. >> everyone's out and about. and everyone was just so, so happy. i felt joy in the air. >> reporter: but epidemiologists warn that widespread travel out of wuhan could mark the start of
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china's second wave. >> one of my concerns is that we're going to get into a nasty cycle of having to have repeated lockdowns. maybe every two or three months because there will be a resurgence. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," ramy inocencio, tokyo, so many firsts are happening as we speak. first time school is home and home is school. first time working out in your living room gym. first time having happy hour online. first time having to file your taxes from home.
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." we are coming to you from, let's see, gayle's family room, anthony's dining room, and my unfinished basement in order to do our part to be socially distant but still, of course, bringing you this crucial news at this time. we're going to begin with the race for personal protective equipment. california has a wide ranging agreement to buy ppe for its medical workers. and governor gavin newsom signed the deal reportedly costing $1 billion and did it out of a frustration he said with the federal response. a department of health and human services report this week echos urgent calls from hospitals for more supplies. one administrator cited a three
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to s to six-month delay for critical face masks. dr. jon lapook looks into the ppe supply chain. we don't have enough. you know, it's -- it's one n95 mask for the entire -- for the entire shift. >> one night recently, there was only one gown on the floor. >> every day when i go to work, i feel like a sheep going to slaughterment. >> reporter: these are the battle cries of doctors and nurses on the front lines fighting coronavirus without the proper armor. >> this right here is my n95 mask that i will be wearing for the whole day throughout my shift. >> reporter: how did we get here where health care workers have to fight for ppe so they can fight the virus without getting infected themselves. >> we are all shopping china to try to get these materials, and we're all competing against each other. >> reporter: a large portion of the u.s. ppe supply, like gloves, gowns, and masks, comes
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from china. this is a senior fellow at the center for global development and an expert on supply chain management. >> i think it's about two billion, say, n95 respirators that we would use. at least half or more comes from china. >> reporter: two million or two billion? >> two billion. >> reporter: is that each year? >> yes. >> reporter: as coronavirus cases rose in china earlier this year, he said ppe production took a hit even as demand for it spiked. large supply distributors told u.s. hospitals it could be months before their orders were met. >> the links in the supply chain have been broken. federal stockpile almost depleted. state-level stockpiles hold limited supplies, and distributors not being able to deliver n95s in any significant quantity for three to six weeks. >> reporter: states and the federal government stepped in to help find and buy ppe. but that's led to bidding wars. >> like being on ebay with 50
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other states -- >> states are competing against states right now. that's no secret. >> we're all competing against each other. states one against another, federal government competing against states. >> reporter: president trump has insisted he is sending states what they need. >> since last sunday, cargo planes have delivered almost, listen to this, 300 million gloves, almost 8 million masks, and 3 million gowns. >> reporter: a department of homeland security official told cbs news the strategic national stockpile of protective gear is almost depleted. last week, president trump invoked the defense production act ordering private companies to help manufacture ventilators and n95 face masks. but it could be weeks before hospitals get the ppe. and donations aren't always enough. >> the nation isn't ready to provide medical care in large catastrophes or big epidemics of contagious disease. >> reporter: experts have said for years if a global pandemic
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were to hit, the u.s. may not have enough ppe. >> public health is about overplanning. >> reporter: beth cameron around the response office under the obama and trump administrations. it was dissolved by the white house in 2018, and she believes that move left the country less prepared. >> i'm really worried about the competition between states. it's the thing that keeps me up at night right now. i think that in the absence of a unified federal plan, states don't have any choice but to be prepared for their constituents. >> reporter: in your opinion, what entity is best prepared to do that kind of unified plan? >> i'd like to see a logistics czar at this point to be honest with you, in my opinion. and i think that logistics czar could come from the military or could be a former military commander. we're going to need a plan for moving and sharing medical equipment across the united states. i hope that we don't need to use that plan, but i think if we have that plan we're not going to regret it. >> reporter: for those on the front lines, it's a matter of life or death. >> if we did have enough ppe, we
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wouldn't be forced to use the n95s over and over again. >> we can't do our jobs effectively if we are sick. we're not safe and, therefore, you're not safe. if you don't have health care workers, you cannot save lives. >> reporter: you've heard that they've had to reuse the n95 masks because they're such precious commodities. that's led medical centers across the country to figure out ways of repurposing them. of sanitizing them. like so many other things in this outbreak, we're trying to figure it out on the fly as we go. tony? >> yeah. we're definitely in whatever it takes territory with this crisis. thank you very much. we want to let our viewers know that as you saw, we looked at how we got to this point. tomorrow we're going to focus on the push to secure critical supplies with china turning its manufacturing might toward producing personal protective equipment, governments all around the world are lining up to buy it, whatever they can, but we're going to explain why the u.s. is at a serious disadvantage. and that's troubling.
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when i get to heaven because i'm going to heaven -- ♪ ♪ cocktail and ginger ale i'm go to smoke a cigarette ♪ >> rolling stone once called john prine the mark twain of american songwritering.
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prine died yesterday in nashville from complications of the coronavirus. he was 73. prine received a lifetime achievement award at the grammys earlier this year. his brilliant songs are still with us along with the respect he earned from other music greats. ♪ broken hearts and dirty windows ♪ john prine was a gifted storyteller whose songs were hailed by peers like bob dylan, as midwestern mine trips to the nth degree. ♪ ♪ my wife my dog and my kids and me ♪ >> reporter: his tunes have been sung by bette midler. ♪ johnny cash. ♪ and bonnie raitt. ♪ last year raitt sang that country classic with him at the americana annual honors.
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♪ to believe in this living is just a hard way to go ♪ >> reporter: prine grew up outside of chicago. ♪ after a stint in the army, he became a mailman, writing songs as he delivered letters. he was just 23 when a glowing review from film critic roger ebert launched his career in 1970. >> from that day on, i didn't have an empty seat. >> reporter: prine survived cancer twice, and when i interviewed the singer/songwriter in 2018 for "cbs sunday morning," he'd just released his first album of new songs in 13 years. are you enjoying the resurgence? >> it took some of them 45 years to get the joke. some people are getting it now. and i'm still around to reap the benefits. ♪ >> he celebrated the release with a soldout show at radio
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city music hall. ♪ as god as my witness i'm getting back into show business ♪ >> we may have lost john prine to coronavirus, but this is the way i prefer to remember him leaving us. [ cheers ] dancing a jig to one of his own songs, "lake marie," in 2018. yeah. our condolences to his wife and their kids. jody, jack, and tommy. bruce springsteen said last night on twitter he was a true national treasure and a songwriter for the ages. that's the truth. i don't know anyone who had more respect in the songwriting community than he did. casey muss gave was and dan auerbach, people just loved him. we will miss him very much. >> i'll say, anthony. he was beloved in the music industry. not only for his music, but they say he was such a great guy. you got to spend time with him.
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>> yeah. you know, john prine never wanted fame and glory. high just wanted to live an ordinary life and write some songs. and he wrote really some of the best. >> yeah. yeah. he will be missed. thank you, anthony. ahead, vlad duthiers looks at some of the stories you'll be talking about toda
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family to yours, we hope you're doing well, hope you're safe and sound. we are safe and sound here. we are also tracking some of the stories we think you'll be talking about including wisconsin holding its primary election despite coronavirus fears and a statewide stay-at-home order. many people waited hours to vote yesterday. precincts all over the state had to close due to a severe shortage of poll workers. voters had mixed reactions about casting their ballots during the pandemic. take a listen. >> i don't think people should be voting today. people are dying. >> i have to come here today and risk my life to vote. and i'm happy to do it because that is my right. >> people put their lives on the line for us to be able to vote, so why shouldn't we? >> reporter: civics in action. official results won't be released until monday. they had to count tens of thousands of mail-in ballots. check out this picture from "the milwaukee journal sentinel."
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an intern took the photo. people calling it the photo of the year. three words, "this is ridiculous." >> that's amazing stuff. the right to vote is one that people have fought for with their lives. and voting itself has been a life or death battle over the years in america. i just don't think many people thought this year would be yet another year where that's the case. very strange times, vlad. we've got something else coming up, a prominent ceo making a significant gift to bad the pandemic? sounds like -- to battle the pandemic? sounds like good news. >> it is good news. twitter and square ceo jack dorsey are donating $1 million to fight the coronavirus. that's 28% of his total wealth. dorsey said he'll donate the stock he owns in square. the money will be distributed through a private company he created called start small. dorsey says one the pandemic is over, the cash will go to relief programs like girls health, education, and universal basic income. gayle? >> silicon valley really
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stepping up. nothing small about what he's doing, though. so what else you got, total eclipse of the vlady? i like that. >> all right. this we're going to lovement a good one to sharement y. you might remember doogie howser and mcdreamy. they're joining forces with other tv doctors to say thank you to real-life medical professions. take a look. >> the closest thing i've come to being a doctor is putting on a costume. while it is close, it's not quite the same. >> i'm not a doctor, but i was paid to be one on tv. pretty sure that's it. >> want to thank the doctors and nurses. the real ones. not the ones on television. >> to the administrators, the cleaning staff, the cafeteria staff. all the volunteers. >> until we meet on the other side of this thing, bless you for all that you do. >> thank you for your courage -- >> reporter: some other actors who made appearances include zach braff, julianna marguilies,
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it's wednesday, april it's wednesday, april 8th, 2020. welcome back to "cbs this morning." terrible toll coronavirus deaths hit a high in the u.s. they talk about unthinkable decisions facing the doctors. >> david chang on the devastating effect of the virus on restaurants. and together apart. jewish families get creative to celebrate passover from afar. >> first here's today's eye opener at 8:00. >> it has been a painful 24 hours in this country. nearly 2000 americans died of
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the coronavirus yesterday. that's the most in a single day. >> hospitals are still trying to find room for all the patients who need treatment. >> you see the buses behind me? they pulled p. they're picking up medical personnel to take them around the city. that medical personnel from the military to going to speed up the transfer process. president trump is threatening to pull funding from the world health organization. >> they missed the call. >> no one has done this kind of mitigation before. i want to be very clear. nowhere around the world have we done what we're doing together as a global community and specifically as americans here in the united states. >> we've seen many videos of neighbors singing on their balconies, playing music, having socially distance dance parties. i think this is the first. a guy on the third or fourth floor poured a glass of wine from a bottle of wine into the glass of a woman below them.
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this happened in portland, oregon. they're hanging outside the windows to applaud nearby hospital workers. and that is a generous pour. that's the new way to drink responsibly. >> this morning's eye opener is presented by toyota. >> well, you can't say that americans aren't very inventive. you know, i don't drink, but people tell me maybe i should think about having a nice glass of wine. i like how those guys are thinking? . >> yeah. suddenly the penthouse participants aren't as hot because you can't pour the wine up. it has to go down. i like the garden apartments. >> exactly. they figured it out. welcome back to "cbs this morning." as you can see, we're broadcasting from all our homes. we hope you, too, are following the guidelines to stay home as much as you possibly can. we begin with this. a warning from officials who told us at the beginning of the week that this would be a devastating week for the coronavirus pandemic.
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and they were right. already we have seen our deadliest days so far. the u.s. death toll is fast approaching 13,000. nearly 2000 of them died just yesterday. anthony, that's more than any other country has reported for one single day. it's a lot. >> it is. over the last week or death toll has more than tripled. the numbers could be even higher because of under reporting. the u.s. has the third largest number of coronavirus deaths in the world. but take a look at this. among the ten hardest hit nations we actually have one of the lowest death rates for each 100 confirmed cases. of course, other countries may be underreporting as well. >> well, the navy is still testing sailors on an aircraft carrier hit by an outbreak of the virus. 230 cases were reported. acting navy secretary, thomas modally resigned yesterday over
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his criticism of the ship's captain freed over the weekend. he told the crew that the captain was either stupid or naive after a letter that was written leading for help leaked to the media. the crew as you may remember cheered loudly as he left earlier this week. he has reportedly tested positive for the virus. >> yeah. there's never a great time for a crisis in leadership. but especially not now. groer governors in hard hit states say they're hitting ventilator shortages. in states like new york, louisiana and michigan, doctors may soon face life and death decisions about who will get a breathing machine and who will not. tara narula shows us how hospitals across the country are tackling the crisis. >> my father was larger than life. >> reporter: jade roth's father lived according to his own
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script. but in the end, his daughter says coronavirus robbed the 78-year-old of his final chapter. he died of heart failure just days after his new york city hospital cancelled his elective heart surgery. >> when he was told the procedure was cancelled, you felt like it precipitated some of his very quick decline. >> yes, i did. now, that clearly is a subjective view. and i want to be very clear that there are always hard decisions to be made. and i don't see that there's any blame here. >> still, jade roth wonders what makes one life more worth saving than another. a question joseph smith hopes he never has to answer, an indianapolis doctor. >> as a physician, it's nauseating and just the idea that we would take a step back and say that one person is more likely to survive than the other so we should provide the
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intensive care to the person that's more likely to survive, that is a very difficult thing. >> with hospital visitations limited, a new york cardiologist shows us how many conversations are happening. this is her helping an 84-year-old patient talk to a daughter. >> i told them the fact that we no longer can provide the critical care that your family member needs. >> she grapples with the new ethical questions she's facing. >> i'm not god. i'm far from god. i'm just very limited. limited in resources. >> how many people -- >> doctor stephen thomas thinks physicians should not have to shoulder the burden of deciding who gets resources and who doesn't. he helped build a triage team to
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create a blueprint. >> it's chief medical operators, infectious diseases, spiritual leaders. they're basically getting together to try to understand what is the objective evidence that we have that will allow us to sort of prognosticate who does or does not have a high likelihood of surviving and trying to basically just come up with in a fair and transparent way that everyone can agree upon. >> a bio ethicist helped write how to fairly allocate things like ventilators and icu beds. >> everyone gets a priority. one is the highest priority. and then we let the supply on a given day determine how many people get those resources. >> is age a factor at all in how you prioritize people? >> age is only a factor as a last resort tie breaker.
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and no other personal characteristic be it race, gender, disability, or anything else goes into the calculation at all. >> if there was a hospital that did not have in this place, it may fall on the treating doctor to be making some of these decisions. what kind of impact might that have on that physician? >> i think it would be hard to overstate the potential stress that this decision making really requires if it falls to you at the bedside. >> because it is an impossible choice. >> yeah. it is a truly impossible choice. >> and doctor tara narula joins us now. it's clear from your piece that there are no longer good choices at the hospitals. only hard choices. one of the choices that's reportedly popping up are dnr orders for coronavirus patients in some hospitals. what can you tell us about
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those? >> well, this is a concept that's difficult for us to wrap our mind around. and many people think it's draconian. but really it signifies this ship from looking at the well being to the patient in front of us to the well being of the population at large. essentially what it means is if you come into an emergency room and you're co-vid positive, the decision is made you're a dnr, do not resuscitate. you would not be resuscitated if you went into cardiac arrest with cpr. the reason is when you perform cpr, it becomes an infectious and high risk for those treating the patient. the reality is that it's very unlikely that people tend to survive cardiac arrest when they're in the hospital. survival rates are around 29 % and it requires a lot of personal protective equipment. that's why that is being floated around. now, the bigger issue really is that families should be having a discussion about dnr and code
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status and living wills and health care proxies now before they get into a situation when they're in the hospital. it's a tough conversation but needs to be happening at home with families. >> yeah. you've got to think about these things before. in the moment, the crisis just engulfs you. you mentioned guidelines at a pennsylvania hospital. you know, who gets the preferential treatment beyond the people you mentioned in the piece? >> right. so it's important to note that there is no set of uniform standardized guidelines in this country. and the pen guidelines are looking at two things. what is the chances that somebody will survive to get out of the hospital, and what are the chances that they will have a long-term life span survivability. outside of that, they are assigned the point score. let's say we have a same score, they look at age and who is a health care provider. who is contributing to treating this epidemic or pandemic. and that person would get higher
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priority. important to note that all patients get treated the same with this scoring system. >> it's amazing, doctor. all the experts in the world can run through those calculations but i don't know that they'll ever make sense to families who don't get the treatment for their loved one. very hard choices here. thank you very much. >> absolutely. ahead, how the pandemic is changing the celebration of passover which by the way
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we're gonna find a way through this. we're working really, really hard in hospitals, our nurses are techs, all the docs. it's about staggering when people get sick so that the hospitals can cope. we're gonna go through an awful lot of these all across puget sound. people have been stepping up and donating personal protective equipment.
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we stay at work.for you. you stay at home for us. just no know we're all with you. thank you,thank you so much. thank you doctors & nurses cities across the country on lockdown. few industries have been harder hit by the pandemic than restaurants. they're estimated to employ nearly 16 million people in the u.s. many have been forced to close or shift to takeout and delivery. david chang is the founder of a restaurant which is a last month he closed all 16 of his
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restaurants both in the u.s. and abroad. abroad. chang also laid off more than 800 employees and is giving up his salary. he joins us from farmingdale, new york. good morning. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> david, what can be done right now to help restaurants? you're painting an extremely dire picture now that this industry is in serious trouble. what can be done to help? >> i think the restaurants that are open try to order directly and as much as you possibly can from your local neighborhood restaurants. there's a lot of restaurant fund-raisers there are happening, as well. but i think most importantly, make sure your local, state, and congressional representatives are doing their best to support the interests of independent restaurants across the country. >> you want the government -- you want people to press the government to actually bail out real estate owners, why is that?
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>> well, it's not something i would like to happen, but you know, speaking to a lot of my peer group already, they expect rent to be paid -- a lot of them -- now. there's no amnesty, and we need some kind of regulations to governor whaern that looks like -- govern what that looks like. while there was a stimulus package passed, it's not comprehensive enough for many small business owners, not just restaurants. >> yeah, and rent i'm sure is the one constant cost you're having to deal with. gayle, you've got a question. >> i do. david, it's good to see you. i'm so sorry it's under these circumstances. i believe that we will all be forever changed by what is happening. i heard you say the other day that this has been the hardest, hardest two weeks of your life. so i'm wondering if you would share with us what it's been like for you and your team, some specifics, and how you guys are getting through. what's it been like for all of you? >> you know, i've likened this
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to what you learn in college as a trolley car problem. where effectively you have to make two decisions, and both are bad outcomes for somebody. and the hardest thing is not knowing how to make the right decision in this horrible time. and it's been really difficult to have to make horrible decisions -- when i say horrible decisions, that negatively impact your employees. there's nothing you can do about it truly. you always want to be in this position where you can make everyone happy. that's sorts of why we're in this business. >> yeah. >> it's just not a good place to be when not everyone can win. it's been tough. >> hey, david, you know, big chain restaurants have plenty of virtues, i'm not a smob about it. in my neighborhood and cities across america, who makes the place is the little guys, the local food. in this crisis, do you think that the big chains because they
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have deeper pockets are going to be the ones that survive? if so, what happens to the character of an american city when all that's left is, well, the national brands? >> yeah. we're going to lose the very eclectic mix that makes dining out in america so wonderful. and it's not because the restaurant that's are big corporate chains are going to survive, you know, because they're corporate chains, they're going to have the cash flow and have the standard operating procedures to implement any changes in a post-covid-19 world. and all of those small restaurants and businesses that everyone enjoys so much, it's the reason why, you know, i started saying things are too small to fail, right. restaurants are too small to fail. and there's a big chain reaction. if 2008 was too big to fail, this is on the opposite end of the spectrum. this is going to affect so many other businesses. farmers, supply chains, distribution, you know, artis artisans, purveyors of all kind. this is the very fabric of america. if we lose restaurants where 90%
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of revenue generated goes back to these other businesses in the ecosystem, it has a dramatic impact on how we live and eat in america. >> yeah. and you tweeted, too, i was really sorry to hear this. you camouflage, you wear subglasses and a hat -- sunglasses and a hat as a chinese american. your concerns about what. what advice do you have for other asian americans, and how afraid are you? >> you know, it's been incredibly upsetting that president trump could not have described the coronavirus appropriately and accurately, and whether you're chinese american, filipino american, japanese american, korean american, you know, there's a lot of fear out there. i've talked to a lot of my friends that are asian american. it's unfortunate. it's unfortunate that we can't be ourselves. we shouldn't are to adopt who -- adapt who we are to be american in this country. we should be whoever we think we are. that is what i think is being american. and it's unfortunate. i just have to talk to my wife, when she goes to the store, there's always been looks.
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." time to bring you some of the stories that are the "talk of the table" this morning. since we're coming to you from home, it's the talk of many cables. we'll share a story with eachth and all of you that is the talk of our tables. gayle, what's up at your house? >> let's talk about pets. last week we told you about the rise in pet adoptions and fostering as americans spend more time at home during the virus outbreak. shelters around the country say that they are actually running out of adoptable pets. and for the first time ever, this is really great news, chicago animal care and control says it has no dogs currently available for adoption. now the reason why this
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resonates with me, guys, is favorite daughter kirby is getting a new puppy this week. she's very excited about that. and they're asking for people, organizations around the country, are asking people to foster a dog. i'm thinking about it. this is the perfect time. you're going to be home, number one. it's a great time to do potty training with the dog. i'm trying to figure out how i can navigate it with this schedule. a lot of people are finding the joys of bringing animals into their lives. as you know, it's unconditional love. i'm intrigued. i haven't puget sounded the trigger yet -- haven't pulled the trigger yet, but i'm thinking about it. >> that's very cool. great for those animals. great for the families who adopted them. also great for me as i look to stall even further in getting a dog in my house. i grew up with dogs, i love dogs. but unlike you, i don't think there's ever a great time to potty train a puppy. >> i don't know. when you're home 24/7, though, tony, this seems kind of ideal. just throwing it out there.
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>> all right. all right. hope you got the rug cleaner. >> your turn. while we're waiting on major league baseball to come back, maybe as soon as next month, we can get a taste of the ballpark from boston red sox oregganit josh -- i'm going to lose his name. take a listen. >> here's the four-bar intro -- ♪ >> that is mr. josh canter, my apologies, mr. canter. he's the organist at fenway park and streams every day at 3:00 on facebook live where he plays songs from his home. he started last month after the season was put on hold. he's wearing a johnny damon hat with the fake long hair in the back. he says he's going to keep doing it every single day, anthony, until people are sick of it or baseball season starts again. i hope baseball season comes
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soon. i miss the crack of the bat. i really do. >> yeah. >> i do, too. and i'm wondering how his wife -- must have who walked behind him in the shot. that's a very loud instrument to have in the house. makes a lot of noise. i'm thinking, what is she thinking. >> she knew what she was marrying. >> yes. i've got a story about a musician, too. this is a young musician in scotland who's managed to find humor in being quarantined because of the coronavirus. listen to his parody of the beatles' song "yesterday." ♪ quarantine now my hands are all nice clean did my bit to fight covid-19 ♪ >> that's peter macpherson, a fourth-year music student at aberdeen university. he wanted to bring a smile to people in difficult times. i just loved his lyrics. one of them is, yesterday i
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skyped a pal to check if he's okay, told me hay he'd taken up crochet, i'll take that as a no, yesterday. >> yes. listen, anthony, if he wanted to make people smile, mission accomplished. i marvel at all these people that have come up with very genius ways to parody the songs. nicely done, peter. nicely done. tony? >> nicely done. boredom is a wonderful push toward creativity, as many americans are showing us these days. all right. this evening, jewish people across the country and around the world will celebrate passover. a chance for families to come together for a festive meal and tell the story of jews' escape from slavery thousands of years ago. social distancing is forcing millions of americans to find new ways to connect. "cbs this morning saturday" co-host dana jacobson shows us passover in the midst of a pandemic. this is your great grandmother's -- >> reporter: erin bina is cooking for passover with her
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2-year-old son ethan by her side. >> you're such a good helper. >> reporter: this is how the holiday usually looks for erin, ed, and their large family. ♪ now amid the pandemic, she's prepping alone for the first time. >> we cook together, we sing together, we tell stories together. this year it's going to be a little sadder. >> reporter: their celebration will now be a virtual one. >> breaking the tradition this year is really hard, especially with our son who loves my grandparents so much. ♪ he really watches my grandfather with great awe when he sings the prayers. >> reporter: social distancing has created a new reality for passover. aileen's kitchen is bustling with activity as she gets ready for the holiday. >> it's a tradition in our family, the special songs that we sing. a lot of people. a lot of energy, it's a new time for all of us. >> reporter: the coronavirus has created chaos at markets.
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shopping for passover necessities added an extra layer of anxiety. how frustrating was shopping during a pandemic? >> oh, my goodness. it was terrible. >> i'm making a big pot of moza ball soup. >> reporter: there's a sader complete with puppets and song. >> we're finding a way to take our passover sader to the next level. >> reporter: like the preparations, this year's will be different. they've asked family and friends to join their zader or zoom sader. >> we're going from the czech republic to seattle. we have georgia and virginia, we're in florida. the kids are used to having the same traditions, and we're showing them we're not panicking, we're not worried. we're making the best of the situation, it is going to be a passover that for sure we will never forget. >> reporter: never forgetting is at the heart of this ancient
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tradition that has celebrated freedom from oppression for some 3,000 years. >> we have bitter herbs that make us cry. a lot of people have been crying every day recently trying to get through this. >> the rabbi leads the temple nerd los angeles. >> what it means to host a sader -- >> reporter: and will be hosting virtual saders. >> i think people need to share their stories. passover is very symbolic. we have all these symbols on the sader plate in the middle of the table. i ask people, if you could add something to the sader plate there year, something symbolic of what we're going through, what would it be. somebody in the community said how about a lemon. it reminds us you can make lemonade out of lemons which is delicious and kosher for passover. ♪ >> reporter: not even a pandemic can stop the music. ♪ the traditional song of thanks is heard at aid issers worldwide. the -- saders worldwide. the group put a modern spin on
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it. ♪ >> we've had a few glasses of wine, we've eaten nicely. let's keep singing. ♪ >> yeah. >> reporter: most jews have always found a way to carry on the tradition. even during times of war and conflict. while the virus is shaking things up especially for orthodox jews, forbidden from using any video conferencing during the holiday, this year's celebration of resilience and renewal will go on. >> this is another way that we are overcoming what we have gone through in order to be able to be together and make it a joyful occasion. >> next year we'll all be together again. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," dana jacobson, new york. >> next year in jerusalem, as they say, and next year hopefully with a vaccine. ahead, simple tapes keep your spirits -- simple tips to keep your spirits up. lori santos explains how science can
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whaso let's do the rightver chanthing, today.ow. let's stay at home. let's wash up. let's always keep our distance - please, six feet apart at least. let's look after ourselves, as well as others. it will all be worth it. we can all do our part. so those on the front line can do their part. and when this is over, we will all, continue, to thrive.
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looking at chicago in the fog, waking up in chicago this morning. i now have great appreciation for beauty shots. science may be able to help us find happiness during this difficult time. professor laurie santos created the most popular class at yale
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university, it was called -- it is called, rather, psychology and the good life. in her podcast, "the happiness lab," she offers solutions for keeping our spirits up during the pandemic. she joins us from new haven, connecticut, from her home there. good to see you again, professor laurie santos. listen, you know what i think, i think a lot of people are feeling anxious, we're really glad to see you. a lot of people are feeling anxious, they're feeling stressed, and they're looking for help, laurie, help. if the new applications the headspace meditation app are any indication, a lot of people are trying meditation for the first time. we all know, of course, that that works, when you do it, when you do it correctly. it actually works. so other than meditation, talk about the importance of that. what other tools do you have in your toolkit to help us out during this time? >> yeah, i think meditation is a f f fantastic tool. the research suggests it can allow you to stop ruminating
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because you're doing such a great job of focusing on your breath or a mantra. part of why it's helpful, it allows you to take deep breaths over time. the way that works is it allows us to curb our sympathetic nervous system, the fight or flight response we're all going through. it allows us to get back to rest and digest which is what all of us need right now. >> i still got to figure out, though, how to quiet your mind. you start meditation, and it goes off in 50 million directions because you're thinking about other things. what else do you have in your toolbox? what does the science say about other things? >> well, the biggest thing that the science says is we need to make time for social connection. social distancing can be a time where we feel a little bit more lonely. it doesn't have to be. wit technologies like the one we're using now, we can reach out across time zones, across neighborhoods, to talk to the folks we really care about. we need to do that in an informal way, not just the official work-type chats that we do on line. all the kind of informal things. do yoga with a neighbor next
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door on line. you know, try to have a dinner across different time zones with friends. i've been doing that with friends in seattle. it's been fantastic. >> laurie, it's anthony. i wanted to ask, a former student of yours created a website called invisible hands helping delivery groceries to the elderly. how does doing something like that, helping other people, help your own state of
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this time there is deep rooted dislike of the president, sanders expected to make a strong push for his supporters to back biden. we will see. remember the two of them have maintained a cordial relationship throughout this campaign. they are friendly.
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they didn't serve that long together in the senate, because sanders had gotten there about two years before biden became vice president but throughout this campaign they managed to keep it aboveboard, it never got personal between them. they have some significant ideological disagreements, but they understand what the ultimate goal is for democrats, which is to retake the white house, but the fact that this comes now, is a signal that sanders has seen the math, seen the delegate estimates give biden more than 1,100. sanders just 865, the ultimate nominee needs 991 to win. at this point we can call biden the presumptive nominee. it will take him until early june to officially get to the numbers because most state primaries have been delayed until june 2nd. >> okay, ed o'keefe, thank you for your annalysis there. ed has been covering the sanders campaign from the beginning and just to recap, bernie sanders at one time the front-runner in the democratic race for the
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president has now suspended his campaign. now making joe biden the presumptive nominee to run against president trump in november. of course our coverage will continue in our 24-hour streaming network, cbsnews.com or on our cbs news app. more on your local news on this cbs station and full rarp on "t" wrap on "the cbs evening news." >> for news, 24 hours a day, go to cbsnews.com.
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before we go, a moment of hope during this time of
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uncertainty. >> five, four, three, two, one -- ♪ >> in philadelphia, they took a much needed break to break it down. they call themselves the swab squad. they're dancing to ciara's hit "level up," the popular song has inspired a dance challenge on social media. she reposted to the instagram page which has been watched more than two million times. way to go. the nurses told "cbs this morning" this is a creative way to boost mowrale during the pandemic. >> great. i love the swab squad. i will not take up their challenge, however, because i don't want to end up taking a hospital bed as i try to gyrate my hips that way. little too stiff, age 40 here. what about you, gayle? >> yeah, is that a trick question, tony? absolutely not. listen, ciara is such a great dancer. but i know that she was impresenced looking at that.
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the thing i like, they clearly have been practicing and rehearsing. it's good that they can take a break in the middle of all of. this i'm glad for them.
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good morning. i'm gianna franco. it's 8:55. plenty of essential workers are utilizing public transit, and changes happening today again for the mass transit agency, specifically muni and bart. they are only focusing on 17 core lines and routes. bay shore, 22, fillmore, gary, just to name a few. lines experiencing crowding will have more frequent service than others. check the schedule before you head out the door. all the information on kpix.com. bart will run 30-minute trains
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until further notice, and single tracking on san francisco training around 8:00 on wednesday evening. again, the station is closing at 9:00 p.m. make sure you're in the system before that. chp crew both dons. th westbound lanes are closed until further notice. the forecast with mary. good wednesday morning to you, gianna. we are starting off the day with cool temperatures and cloudy skies, especially around the bay. low 40s for san francisco, and looking at upper 40s for santa rosa. low 40s for oakland, livermore, and san jose. the mix of sun and clouds for today. partly to mostly cloudy on thursday and friday. sunshine and warmer weather expected for the weekend. as we head through the day, seasonal daytime highs, partly sunny skies, 61 in san francisco. upper 60s for concord and san
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