cbs this morning is coming up next. have a good morning to you, and welcome to "cbs this morning." it's monday, april 20th, 2020. i'm gayle king with anthony mason and tony dokoupil. clashes and criticism. the president feuds with governors over critical coronavirus testing as protests emerge against stay-at-home orders. we'll show you where new hot spots are developing across the country. >> race for a cure. doctors and researchers work furiously to develop new tools to fight the virus. how antibody tests and plasma therapies could play a key role. >> tracking and tracing. big tech companies and local governments are teaming up to

find people who may be infected. new questions of how to balance privacy and public health. >> and economic survival. congress negotiates more help for small businesses struggling to stay afloat. how even some big retailers may go bankrupt. >> that's not good. but first, here's today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. >> really, any part of the country is vulnerable. even rural parts of the country. you see these superspread situations as we saw in south dakota. >> the debate over when the reopen of the country is getting political. >> it's no time to get cocky or arrogant. >> nobody wants to reopen this country more than president donald trump. >> they've got cabin fever. they want to get back. they want their life back. their life was taken away from them. >> rallies to end stay-at-home orders were held over the weekend. >> it's the facts of life. we live and we die. so to shut down the economy

because of that is -- it's insane. >> a gunman in canada has killed at least 16 people in the deadliest such attack in the country's history. >> today is a devastating day for nova scotia, and it will remain etched in the minds of many for years to come. >> thailand is seeing a record number of baby sea turtles hatching. thanks to tourist beaches being empty. >> to pay attention, at least make me look good. >> jeff lyons had a feline jump into his home at his working from home setup. >> let me show you a little tail wag there. >> and all that matters. >> the one world together at home concert helped raise money to fight covid-19 and at the same time honor workers on the front line. >> on "cbs this morning." >> the celebrities raised a lot of money. more than $127 million to help fight coronavirus. ♪ lean on me when you're not strong ♪

♪ and i'll be your friend i'll help you carry on ♪ >> welcome to "cbs this morning." that global citizen concert, anthony, had so many high points we can't say thank you enough to the people out there risking their lives to save ours. it's true. >> great to see stevie wonder. great to see elton. so many people showed up. really special. >> yeah, yeah. gaga said nobody said no. from our homes to yours, we hope you had a decent weekend under the circumstances and that you are staying safe. for those of you still providing the essential services, we thank you, thank you, thank you. this is where we start this morning. the white house and many state governors are clashing on two fronts today over the coronavirus testing and when to ease the lockdowns. over the weekend, america surpassed 759,000 reported cases

of this virus. the reported nationwide death toll is more than 40,000 and that's nearly double what it was a week ago. >> despite those terrible numbers, gayle, the economic strain is driving some americans to protest stay-at-home orders. but there are questions about how the rallies consisting largely of the president's supporters were organized. manuel bojorquez is in miami. we understand florida is already moving to reopen nonessential businesses. >> that's right, anthony. some florida beaches are slowly starting to reopen as the state considers how it will get businesses here back up and running. let's show you some time lapse video from saturday. it shows people flocking to a jacksonville, florida, beach after it reopened. but florida, like many other states, has seen its covid cases increase up more than 34% in the past week. many of those protesters across the country say for them, this is about civil liberties.

but at the end of the day, a lot of it is also about jobs. and as the lockdowns linger, the demonstrations continue to grow. >> usa! usa snmt. >> reporter: in san diego, demonstrators showed up waving flags, holding signs, voicing the same demands. >> it's not fair to the rest of us that don't have covid-19. we all need to get back to work. >> reporter: and with no social distancing in sight, protesters in wisconsin numbered in the thousands and had a united message. end the lockdown now. in denver, colorado, yesterday, demonstrators swarmed the state capitol building. an apparent counterprotester blocked cars by standing in the street. in texas, which is set to start reopening state parks today with some businesses partially reopening friday, people ignored social distancing to demonstrate. >> usa!

usa! >> reporter: president trump weighed in on the protests during his sunday white house briefing. >> people feel that way, you are allowed to protest. they feel that way. i watched the protest and they were all six feet apart. it was a very orderly group of people. >> reporter: although less vocal, it still appears the majority of americans are not in a rush to lift stay-at-home orders. a new poll from the pew research center showed 66% of americans say they are afraid of social distancing measures ending too early, including a majority of both democrats and republicans. after ravaging cities, cases of covid-19 are spiking in rural parts of the country. oklahoma saw nearly 32% increase in the last week. arkansas, more than 39% in the same time frame. there was a more than 82% jump in iowa. the state saw its largest single day increase on sunday with most of those cases from workers at meat processing plants.

and south dakota, site of the shuttered smithfield pork plant, saw a jump in cases of nearly 124% last week. former fda commissioner dr. scott gottlieb on "face the nation" yesterday says the crisis, especially in areas outside major cities, is far from over. >> you see the superspread of situations as you saw in south dakota. so i don't think anyone is out of the woods right now. >> reporter: some of those anti-quarantine protests are possibly being organized by conservative pro-gun activists. facebook tells us that unless the government prohibits those events, it will continue to allow them to be organized on facebook. tony? >> still very small protests in the scope of the very large country. manny, thank you very much. governors with stay-at-home orders say they are eager to lift them as well, but not until there's enough testing to know if it's safe. they've been looking for federal leadership on that issue. weijia jiang is at the white

house for us where the latest tensions between states and the president. what are you learning? >> reporter: good morning. as the administration continues to face backlash for not having a national testing strategy, vice president mike pence has a call scheduled for later today with all the governors to talk about their plans and supplies. public health experts say testing would have to at least triple the current rate before the country can open safely. >> the governors wanted to have total control over the opening of their states. but now they want to have us, the federal government, do the testing. >> reporter: president trump said it was not the responsibility of the federal government to conduct tests. >> testing is local. you can't have it both ways. testing is a local thing. >> reporter: but governors say they need the administration's help. >> i can't do an international supply chain. and that's where the federal government has to help because

no state can do that. >> reporter: maryland's republican governor larry hogan says there's simply a shortage of equipment. >> to try to push this off to say that the governors have plenty of testing and they should just get to work on testing, somehow we aren't doing our job, is just absolutely false. >> reporter: dr. deborah birx says coronavirus tests data is crucial. and pointed to what florida has posted on its public health website. >> they've been able to show their communities cases and tests, district by district, county by county, zip code by zip code. that's the kind of knowledge and power we need to put into the hands of american people. >> reporter: after weeks of calls from state and local officials, the president on sunday announced he would use the defense production act to force companies to make more swabs, essential parts in testing kits. and in short supply. >> this is what it's about. >> reporter: but other resources

are lacking, too, like reagents. a critical chemical to complete the testing process. >> we're fighting a biological war. we've been asked by the way as governors to fight that war without the supplies we need. >> reporter: despite calls for help from officials on the ground, mr. trump pushed back. >> reagents and swabs are so easy to get. >> reporter: of course, the other big component to this pandemic is the economic fallout. later today, lawmakers are expected to announce a deal that would allocate another $300 billion to small businesses after the first round of aid for more than that amount ran out in just two weeks. plus an additional $100 billion is expected to go to hospitals and testing. gayle? >> weijia, thank you. new york governor andrew cuomo says today his state will begin what he calls the most aggressive antibody testing program in the country. cuomo says new york can conduct

up to 2,000 antibody tests per day to determine who has been infected. our chief medical correspondent dr. jon lapook joins us with more on that. let's start with the antibody test. there are two different kinds. what are they, and how are they different? >> well, the two different -- again, remember, the antibody is to see whether you have been exposed, whether you perhaps have protection. it's not to show whether you have active infection. that's the pcr, the nasal and throat swab. the two antibody tests are the traditional elisa which we have similar things for measles, mumps, rubella. it's not a hard thing to do and tells you the degree of antibody you have. the other is a more rapid test that looks more like a pregnancy test and you see whether there's a line there or not. there's a control that says it's working and if there's a line horizontally it says, okay, you have an antibody. doesn't tell you how much antibody. >> so who can get the test?

>> everybody wants to have that test, right? i think there's not anybody in the country -- maybe a couple -- who don't want to have it. they want to know that cold i had six weeks ago, i wonder if that was coronavirus and whether i may have some degree of protection. right now it's slowly rolling out. i know my sister is up near saratoga, and she said there was a facebookbook posting where people were lined up to wait for this antibody test over the weekend. the reason for that is that we have had this friction between, do we save the economy or do we try to handle covid-19? you can get your arms around both if you find out you have antibody and were exposed. when it's possible -- there's a big asterisk. we're not sure how protected you are, but then you can consider going back to work. that still has to be worked out. >> do you have any concerns about the accuracy of the test?

>> absolutely. so at the very beginning, there wasn't that much control. a lot of them, dozens and dozens got rolled out. we know there are false positives and false negatives. i heard of one that tested positive just if you've been exposed to any member of the coronavirus family. remember, the coronavirus is a family of viruses, and about one-third of the common cold is a coronavirus. so the last thing you want is a false positive or false negative. it's better to have no test than to have an inaccurate test. the fda is really -- >> jon, realistically. >> there are only a handful. >> realistically, jon, do you think we can go back to life as normal without an effective treatment or vaccine? i'm wondering what you think as a doctor when you see the protests that are clearly not practicing social distancing. >> yeah. i think that it's going to be a new normal. unless -- until we get a vaccine that we know is effective. that's the ultimate backstop.

that's about a year away, and we're not sure. there's no guarantee it's going to work. until then, the reason why we need this testing, which is both the pcr looking to see if you have the infection or the antibodies to get our arms around it and find out who has it, who doesn't have it, and we can try to slowly reopen parts of the country. without that, we really are not going to know what we're doing. we're going to be driving blind. >> all right. jon, thank you very much. tony? >> thanks, gayle. it all comes back to testing. overseas, a new series of arrests in hong kong is adding to concerns that governments are using coronavirus fears to crack down on human rights. the u.s. is criticizing china after police detained leaders of hong kong's protest movement. holly williams reports. >> reporter: 15 of hong kong's pro-democracy leaders were arrested in a single day. they joined with millions of other hong kongers last year demanding that china give them full democracy. one of those taken by police was

jimmy lai, a wealthy newspaper owner. we interviewed him for "60 minutes" at the height of the demonstrations in october. >> if we don't fight, we will lose everything. >> what do you mean lose everything? >> when you lose the freedom, you lose everything. >> china wants to crush this pro-democracy movement. nip it in the bud. >> keith told us the virus provided an opportunity for a crackdown. >> the virus has really gotten people off the streets. i think that's probably given a window for the government to go out and start arresting people. >> reporter: protest movements around the world from baghdad's anti-corruption demonstrations to greta thunberg's school strikes have been effect ofly silen silenced by the virus. emergency powers mean hungary's prime minister can now rule by decree indefinitely and thailand's leaders an censor and shut down media. >> the arrival of coronavirus was an authoritarian's dream.

it gives them an excuse to ban political rallies, gives them an excuse to crack down on the media. >> reporter: the question is whether when this crisis is over, citizens will be able to regain the freedoms they've lost. for cbs this morning, holly williams. we have more news not related to the coronavirus. canada is reeling from the deadliest mass shooting in its history. at least 16 people were killed when a gunman reportedly dressed like a police officer went on a weekend rampage across central nova scotia. the suspect is also dead. errol barnett shows how the violence unfolded. >> reporter: authorities in canada say the 12-hour shooting rampage began in a rural town late saturday. and ended at this gas station around 30 miles away. witnesses described hearing gunfire and police later said the suspect was dead.

>> it's just something that i never ever expect to happen here. this close to home. >> reporter: the gunman, believed to be 51-year-old gabrielgab gabriel wortman tried to make his car look like a cruiser. >> the impact of this will extend from one end of the province to the other. >> reporter: the victims were shot in several locations, including inside and outside of a home. fires were also set. police have not yet released a motive. >> countless families are in mourning today. >> reporter: among the dead, heidi stevenson, a 23-year veteran of the royal canadian police. the mother of two was killed while responding to the scene. mass killings are not as common here as they are in the united states. they overhauled their gun laws in 1989 after a gunman opened gunfire at a college killing 14

people. that is now the second deadliest shooting in the country's history. prime minister justin trudeau called the violence senseless and said on sunday that, quote in moments like these, we come together to support one another. for "cbs this morning," errol barnett. >> very rough morning. ahead, hear from a staff at a major psychiatric facility who say that not enough is being done to protect them and their patients from the coro when you're confident

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. good morning, i'm gianna franco. it's 7:55. if you're headed out on the roadwayses this morning, there's a couple of things to look out for. brake lights on south 101, into san rafael. no accidents, but there was road work there, and it may slow you down a bit. a few slower speeds, down 28 miles an hour, and also on the same map, across the bay, hercules, slower speed past highway 4. once you're past that, no delays richmond into berkeley. traffic is light there. it looks like the traffic pattern, south 880 into hayward continues. you will see slower speeds away from the castro valley.

no delays across the bridge. an accident at northbound 101 near the 92 connector. all lanes should be opened there in the next couple of minutes. 101 past there no brake lights at all. that's the morning drive. now to the forecast with mary. gianna, today, the coolest day of the week. i have been tracking a few sprinkles on the doppler this morning. we head through the day, and we are looking at clouds and temperatures below average this time of the year. low to mid-50s for this hour. now showing you what to expect, taking you throughout the day, mostly cloudy skies. 59 in san francisco, and 62 in oakland. 66 for san jose, and concord. after that, high pressu

it's high pressu it's monday, april 20th, 2020. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king with tony dokoupil and anthony mason. second bailout. hundreds of billions of dollars of new money may soon be headed to new money after the first package ran out of money. what recovery looks like for patients from coronavirus. and novel approach. an author tells us how he's turning words into money to help stop the spread. >> it's clever, but first, here's today's eye opener at

8:00. >> the white house and many state governors are clashing on two fronts over the coronavirus testing, and when to ease the lockdown. >> the economic strain is driving some americans to protest stay at home orders. >> some florida beaches are starting to reopen as the state considers how it will get businesses back up and running. >> the administration continues to face backlash for not having a national testing strategy. >> realistically, do you think we can go back to life as normal without an effective treatment or vaccine? >> i think it's going to be a new normal. until we get a vaccine we know is effective. >> doing tiktok dances with her grandson over face time. ♪ hard yes on this. i think we all learned a lot. when, judi's grandson might be

ed sheeran, and life is getting weird onth right now. >> nicely done to judi and her grandson. i love when i see anybody do anything creative and fun. i went from walking to the kitchen to the living room, waving at a bird flying by, hello, i'm gayle. i'll be here tomorrow. i love it when people can do stuff like that. >> i agree. that's my weekend as well. i think things will be strange on earth if you use your kitchen more to cook. >> yes. well, that ain't happening. that ain't happening. welcome back to "cbs this morning." like many of you, we are following the guidelines to stay home as much as possible. we really hope you're doing the same. this is where we begin. we're talking about the senate today that could reach another funding deal today to help people struggling financially from the pandemic. the paycheck protection program

is what it's called. it helped small businesses with payroll could get another $300 billion. the program ran out of money in two weeks. the deal could provide 275 billion to hospitals and $25 billion for testing. >> testing is key to being able to reopen the country. vice president pence is holding a call with governors state. the white house is claiming states have the capacity to do more testing. some governors say they don't have the necessary equipment. moon while protests were held across the country demanding states open swiftly. supporters of president trump were at this one in washington state. more protests are expected today. and several states including florida and texas have begun loosening some restrictions, anthony. >> meanwhile researchers hope

plasma from coronavirus survivors may help cure seriously ill patients. we should note that plasma therapy for the virus is still experimental and clinical trials are underway. senior medical correspondent dr. tara narula spoke to families who turned to this type of therapy when all else failed. >> we really didn't expect him to decline so rapidly the way he did. it was difficult. >> i didn't even know he was going into the coma. i couldn't say anything to him. >> reporter: doctors at orlando health tried a cocktail of drugs to help save 52-year-old husband and father kevin. but days passed with no improvement. >> our daughter broke down a couple times just crying and she said i just want my daddy home. >> reporter: after hearing about the promise of plasma therapy, it was his wife's mission to

find a plasma donor and she quickly found a match on facebook. three days after the transfusion. >> we love you, you hear us? >> we love you, dad. >> reporter: he woke up from a medically-induced coma. >> he's crying? oh, baby, i see you. >> we love you. you're going to beat this. >> reporter: he's now able to talk and is expected to go home today. >> it's my last night at the hospital. >> reporter: the treatment gives sick patients the antibody rich blood plasma from recovered patients. one donation can poshlly treat up to three infected patients. >> we need to do the clinical trials to know when, if and how to use it. >> reporter: this doctor has been studying antibodies for over three decades and says while more research needs to be done, it shows promise and history is on its side. >> the first nobel prize in medicine was given for the

discovery that you could treat a disease with oiantibodies. it was used in the 1918 flu epidemic and more recently in the sars outbreak in 2003. >> reporter: he says timing plays a huge role in the success of a transfusion. >> we think you get more bang for the buck if you treat people early. >> reporter: these brothers were preparing for the worst after their 76-year-old dad was hospitalized for over three weeks. >> we're down to the time where we're asked to possibly say good-bye. >> and even looking for the funeral policies and the policies during this period. >> reporter: they turned to facebook for finding help for a donor. >> reporter: were you nervous about trying something that was experiment experimental? >> no. our dad was headed in a downward spiral. this was our own shot. >> reporter: craig's high school friend turned out to be their savior. >> it can't be more rewarding.

whether you know them or not, you're saving a life. >> reporter: shortly after the therapy, their dad slowly showed signs of improvement, and over this weekend, news that he could be coming home soon. >> successes like the one we had today give us hope that maybe we're onto something here. >> reporter: how do you think your father is going to hear when he finds out about the tremendous effort you put forth to save him? >> proud. i think that's the only word i could think of. we acted as one. i mean, i think he's going to be proud of that. >> and doctor tara narula joins us now. these are encouraging stories but not everyone is as lucky as these families have been in finding donors. why is it so difficult to find them? >> reporter: well, before this pandemic there really wasn't a fully functional system in place. that's evolving realtime. one of the other issues is that the demand really outweighs the supply. we have lots of people who are still sick, still recovering. so the situation will be

different in a month or two. and then we've talked a lot about the testing. logistically in order to donate, you need the documented positive test and the documented negative test. we know how hard it's been to get testing at all for any part of your illness. and lastly, if you want to donate to somebody that is a friend or family member, you also have to have the same blood type that has to be matched. >> all right. some progress, though. thank you so much. ahead, we'll check in with seth done. he is finally able to leave his home in rome after testing positi it's best we stay apart for a bit,

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about testing positive for coronavirus. he was quarantined in rome with his husband, andrea. well, we're very happy to tell you that seth is feeling better. he just got his second negative test result. yay. he joins us from his home in rome. seth, it is so good to see you. you know, we've talked to many people who have different reactions to this virus. heard people say it was aching like they never felt, hit by a truck, shakes and sweats. others say i took tylenol and went to bed. what was your experience like, and what does feeling better mean for you? >> reporter: well, gayle, feeling better is a relief. i've never wanted to fail a test -- never been so happy for a negative result. >> yeah. >> reporter: as i got a couple of hours ago. i was somewhere in the middle on that scale. i certainly had symptoms, i had congestion, i had aches, i had fever for one night. i'd say maybe for eight days i didn't feel very well. i had different pains in places i wasn't really used to. i definitely knew i was sick.

but i didn't have days where i couldn't get out of bed. i was -- i was lucky to have relatively mild symptoms. and then to test negative finally twice, ah, such a relief. >> why did you have to have two tests? is that how it works in rome? you have to have two to end quarantine? >> reporter: the italians say they follow world health guidelines. world health organization guidelines say you need two negative tests separated by 24 hours to be officially freed from quarantine. so as soon as i was exposed to people who were known to be positive, the doctors said you have to be in quarantine. then i had the test, it turned out i was positive. we stayed in quarantine. today is day 41. 41 days in the house. i've only been out for about three hours. that was with a doctor's permission to go to some mobile clinics to have this test. and one of the tests, about 20 days after i first tested positive, was positive again.

at that point i had no symptoms, i was feeling much better, and i was surprised, shocked, and saddened really to -- to test positive. again, frustrated to test positive again. >> yeah. that's what's so scary, to test and have no symptoms. yes. >> reporte >> three hours outside is not a lot. what have you been doing to stay sane? >> reporter: zoom. zoom everything, zoom exercise, zoom italian classes, zoom conference calls for work, as you guys know. zoom dinner parties and drinks. in fact, to change it up at one point, put on a black tie to have a black tie zoom dinner party because just the regular zoom dinner party was getting old after so many weeks. i'd say the support of family and friends. my husband, andrea, has been incredible through this. i brought this into his life, and he, too, had to be quarantined the whole time. we've been lucky to have

neighbors delivering groceries and helping us out. as we couldn't leave. happy to get these test results this morning. >> and so seth, speaking of your neighbors and the broader situation there in italy, one of the harder hit countries, from your vantage points, opening up your window and covering this through the computer and virtually, what's the situation in italy, and what's the prognosis going forward? >> reporter: we live right in the middle of rome, and with the windows open here for the last 40 days, it sounded more like the countryside. you hear birds and insects. though recently i have heard more helicopters. i was doing the laundry and hanging up the laundry and a drone buzzed overhead. the italian have been cracking down, trying to enforce stay-at-home orders. the two times that we were allowed out of the house, three times actually to take a test, only out for a little bit of time. we went to this mobile clinic. but we saw all sorts of police

blockades, roadblocks where they would stop. we had a doctor's permission we had to show that allowed us to be on the streets. people that we've seen, rome seems to be taking this very seriously. now as you know, italy is experimenting with this so-called phase two, starting to open up more to allow more freedom. now with my freedom all i can do is go to the grocery store and take out the trash. but after 41 days, that's pretty nice. >> i'll bet it's fun to take out the trash. before you go, quickly, is andrea okay? >> reporter: andrea's great. thanks. he actually tested negative all three times. there's some different hypotheses there. one is that he could have had it in between and not been tested at that right moment. he's well. >> i'm glad he's all right. thank you, seth doane. our chief medical correspondent, you know him, dr. jon lapook, joins us. here's a question -- how long can the coronavirus live inside the body? it's so interesting that seth had no symptoms yet tested

positive. >> reporter: yeah, i have to say it shows the perspective this pandemic gives us that seth is thrilled to take out the garbage. i just love that. >> i know. i know. >> reporter: you know, here's the thing -- just because he tested positive and that there was the virus, little particles of rna in the back of his throat, it doesn't mean that those particles were infectious. and research recently suggests it probably wasn't. there was a study where the particles were able to be recovered from the back of the throat weeks later, weeks after the person became sick. but they weren't infectious after day eight. so that's one of the things -- the cdc has two different guidelines. one says that you're ready to go back if you have 72 hours without fever. assuming have no medicine to lower the fever. you're feeling better, and it's been at least seven days since your symptoms began. the other is the one that seth has been following which says you have to have two negative tests at least 24 hours apart. if he had done the first

criteria, he would have been out weeks ago. >> yeah. how long should you quarantine if you test positive? >> reporter: well that's the thing. there are two different ways. you could split the difference and say, well, seven days from the beginning of symptoms if you don't have the virus. you know, maybe that's a little bit short. you know, trying to get people back. some people i know are doubling that. it's hard to know right now because we don't have the data. so some people are saying at least 14 days. the cdc official guidelines, we said there are two, if you don't have the testing ability, they're saying seven days from the beginning of symptoms. 72 hours without fever and feeling better. i have to add about seth that i have to applaud him and his ethics. when he found out that he tested positive, he contacted everybody who he had any contact with including me. that's one of the reasons why i was in self-imposed quarantine for a couple of weeks. thank god i tested negative.

but you know, there's a stigma attached to it. he was the very first one -- among the first people to be infected at, you know, around here. and i thought it took a lot of guts and a lot of ethics for him to go out and be so forward and say, it's me, i tested positive, there's no shame in it. and i really applaud him. i got to hand it to him. i think it's very important medically. i don't know why there is shame, but every time there's an epidemic of anything, whether it's ebola or whatever, the people infected, there was stigma. there should not be any stigma attached to them. >> i second what you're saying about seth. it's important that people reduce the stigma so we can get help and treatment if we need it. thank you, dr. jon lapook. good to see you. ahead, a deejay veteran re-creates what you could call a hair-rising wartime moment inspiring others locked down in the epidemic.

the author who wrote "tuesdays with mori" is righting a new book to help people affected by good morning. i'm gianna franco. it was 8:25. thank you for joining us. we look at the roadways, and it's fairly quiet. if you're an essential worker or delivery truck driver getting ready to hit the roadways, you should not have any major snags right now. traffic moving at the limit for the bay bridge. on the flip side, lower deck, roadway to look out for, that's until 1:30 this afternoon. various lanes will be closed. volume is light, and it should not cause any major issues or delays. we will keep an eye on that. san mateo bridge is clear in both directions. traffic is light across the span, and a quick look at

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welcome back to "cbs this morning." it's time to bring you some of the stories that we call "talk of the table." you know how it goes. we each pick a story that we like and share it with all of us and all of you from our respective homes. so who's going first? tony, i think it's you. >> i'll go first. a lot of us could use a haircut after many weeks at home. in maryland a world war ii paratrooper, 96-year-old guy whitten, decided to shave his hair into a mohawk. his granddaughters helped him do it this month. look at that video. the background is this -- back in 1944 -- do we have the video? in 1944 -- there he is -- back in 1944, we wore a mohawk on the

eve of d-day to intimidate the germans. but a lieutenant wouldn't let him keep it. he's always had memories of that mohawk. he wanted to bring it back. he said he did it again 75 years later to honor his fallen comrades and also just to make people laugh. he's received photos from other people who is also took up the mow -- who also took up the mohawk look. kudos to them. a great gesture. the whole video is funny. he's got a whole rigamarole through it all. they might be the only two 96-year-olds in america who have enough hair up top to shape it into a mohawk. >> i was going to say -- >> a wonderful challenge. i don't know how many people in that age bracket will be able to follow it. i hope i'm among them when i get there. a rarity. >> yes. >> anthony? >> yeah. i would love to have that much hair to be able to do a motor vehicle hawk, as you said. a great look -- a mohawk, as you said. a great look. a married couple in london is killing time during the coronavirus lockdown by creating lip-sync videos. their battle has become a huge

hit on social media. take a look. ♪ ♪ ♪ i need some time off from that emotion time to get my heart up off the floor ♪ ♪ a hero i'm holding on for a hero till the end of the night ♪ >> that's marcus brigstock and rachel paris. last is my favorite. they're comedians. they started posting their lockdown lip-sync videos at the beginning of the month. every time that try to top each other. it works. a lot of fun. they've gotten a huge reaction. i love these, too.

gayle? >> i love that, too, anthony. you can tell they are never bored. here's another couple who i think seems to have a lot of fun at home. this is a local tv reporter in sacramento, found out how shall we say the hard way that when you work from home you have to be really, really careful about who's in the shot. melinda maze is her name. she was doing a live report about styling her hair at home. apparently her husband was taking a shower at the time. now if you look to the right of the screen, we had to blur it out because it's a family show. but to the right of the screen, that big blur is her husband, naked in the mirror. if you're watching her newscasts in sacramento, you got to see her husband, by the name -- his name is mark. they've been married for 15 years. and -- you know, i had a couple of questions. a, he's taking a shower during her live shot. okay. i get that. if you're out of the shot. you have to remember that there's a mirror in the room. i think that's hilarious.

so viewers at that station got to see mark in all his glory. >> i don't get it. why would he be taking a shower during the live shot? >> it's always dangerous to do a live shot with the shower behind you. >> and let me just say this -- thank you very much, alexis. melinda's husband's name is mike, not -- not mark. that would make a difference. mike delambert. thank you so much, alexis. you go, mike. >> embarrassing -- >> embarrassing to have his name wrong. >> yes. >> he's got enough embarrassment enough. >> anthony? >> all right. thanks. bestselling author mitch albom is writing a new novel to raise money for coronavirus relief. his popular books, of course, includes "tuesdays with morrie" and "the five people you meet in heaven." "human touch" is free. he is publishing one chapter on line every week for the next eight weeks. actually eight in total.

readers can make donations to his charity, which is detroit beats covid-19. mitch albom joins us from his home in detroit. good morning. thank you so much for being with us. welcome. >> good morning. >> this is quite -- a great cause that you've taken on, obviously. you've given yourself quite a challenge here writing on demand essentially week by week. but you've written this story right from the -- you've ripped this story right from the headlines. i'm hoping you know how this all ends. >> i was actually going to ask you. i don't know how it ends. i'm doing it one week at a time. and it's not the way i normally write a work of fiction. but you know, these are extraordinary times. >> what made you decide to do this, mitch? >> i wanted to help out my city, anthony. i mean, detroit is the hardest hit city after new york. we've got first responders that are dying. we've got hospitals that are overrun. and you know, i thought, well, this is what i do for a living, i sell books.

let me write fiction and offer it for free. see if i can get people around the world -- i'm blessed to have readers from all over -- heto hp our city out. i tried to take a story that could move around as the pandemic continued. it centers on a street cornern michigan on one small town where there's four families living in four houses. and how the four families sort of interact with each other as the pandemic grows. and how they go from very neighborly to starting to become distrustful. some get closer, some get further apart. at the core is one mysterious 8-year-old boy who's recent to the neighborhood who seems immune to any kind of illness. and as people start to get sick, he sneaks around to their houses and offers himself to be hugged and held and provide this human touch that we miss so much. and then just when he seems to be the key to curing the whole thing, he mysteriously disappea disappears. you'll have to stay with me every friday, we put out another chapter. i'll let you know. >> you're not -- mitch, you

write -- you're very prolific, but you're not used to having to hit a deadline every week. are you? >> well, the sports writer part of my past has trained me well for this. i used to have to write things in five minutes on deadline for the newspaper. and so this is a little more like that. but no, i don't usually write my books there way. i usually chase them to the publishers as they're going saying let me have one more sentence, one more sentence. this is like done with it. done. i record it. i do an audio recording with audible. and it all has to be done, you know, by monday. i'm doing it right after i'm done with you. and then we start the next chapter all over again. >> yeah. and the 8-year-old character you mentioned is based in part on an 8-year-old who's staying at your house from your orphanage, the orphanages that you back in haiti. is that right? >> yeah. ironically he came up from -- from haiti for physical therapy. he's handicapped in a way. and so he got caught in the

travel ban. so now we're parents to an 8-year-old. he's just been an amazing delight. he's full of joy. his name is nachs. in the book he's little moses. he provides such energy and sunshine for us being locked in. ill realize children are a -- i realized children are a key to feeling there's hope. not only is he inspiration for the character but the audio version with audible, he records the voice of the 8-year-old boy. i give him the line, he does the line. very good actor for an 8-year-old haitian boy. and you can hear him in the audio version. >> that's great, mitch. i wanted to mention, you wrote a column recent in detroit titled "the michigan i know doesn't lose its head in a pandemic." what are you getting at there? >> well, i've been hearing from people around the country about the protest that was held here at the capitol. and people saying, what's going on in your state? i would say, well, it's not our

state, that's 1,000 or 2,000 cars that are exercising their first amendment right to protest certain things. in a state of ten million people, that doesn't necessarily speak for all of us. i think the majority of people in michigan, while we're certainly suffering businesswise and with tight restrictions, i think our top preference is to make sure we don't lose one more soul from michigan to this. not a grandparent, not a child, not a first responders, not a doctor. if that means we have to stay locked in longer or endure a little bit longer, if it's going to save lives, that's the way the majority in the state thinks. >> all right. thank you so much. for more information about how to read "human touch," visit cbsthismorning.com. thanks, mitch. ahead, we take you to the studio of artist kadir nelson to find out how he what we do now will forever change our tomorrow.

so let's do the right thing, today. let's stay at home. let's wash up. let's always keep our distance - please, six feet apart at least. let's look after ourselves, as well as others. it will all be worth it. we can all do our part. so those on the front line can do their part. and when this is over, we will all, continue, to thrive.

step by step, we're going to figure this out. we're gonna find a way through this. we're working really, really hard in hospitals, our nurses, our techs, all the docs. it's about staggering when people get sick so that the hospitals can cope. we're gonna go through an awful lot of these. all across puget sound, people have been stepping up and donating personal protective equipment. we stay at work. for you. you stay at home for us. just know we're all with you. thank you, thank you so much. thank you doctors & nurses.

a celebrated artist is using his talents to spread a message of hope during this pandemic. award-winning illustrator kadir nelson is known for his painting black american icons who have inspired him. now they include people like dr. martin luther king jr., baseball star jackie robinson, and former congresswoman shirley chisholm. "cbs sunday morning's" lee cowan

shows how nelson is taking inspiration from other heroes. ♪ >> reporter: normally takes kadir nelson weeks to paint a work this big, this detailed, this powerful. this took only a matter of days because he says the times demanded it. >> i need to have a crucial voice and say some being it and create an image that give people hope. i call it "after the storm." >> reporter: "after the storm"? >> "after the storm." >> reporter: it might have been easier to spend the shoutdown looking at the near empty streets, depicting the fear and anxiety the coronavirus is leaving in its wake. what struck him more was the globe aid globe's resilience and courage. eyes up he says should be the signature of this difficult time, not the grim reality behind us. >> i always felt that it's more important to portray the better part of ourselves.

something that speaks to something bigger than us. >> reporter: strength is what he captures best. this is his view of congresswoman shirley chisholm. aretha franklin and harriet tubman. he's portrayed players inneath oh league baseball and reminding us why mohamed ali mattered so much. >> i think what's in my head is the -- the idea or the feeling that i wanted to have. >> reporter: it has to have an emotion? >> yeah. yeah. i think that's what makes art art. >> reporter: he should know. his art is highly prized by collectors. many hang in museums and galleries. he intends to give much of the proceeds from the sale of "after the storm" to covid-19 relief efforts. wherever the money is needed the most. >> we are all human beings. we are all part of the human family. we are all experiencing this

together. ♪ >> reporter: art can reflect who we are as a society. let's just hope that kadir nels nelson's depiction is who we'll be after the storm passes. in los angeles, lee cowan for "cbs this morning." >> bravo, kadir nelson. "eyes up after the storm." we can't wait until that happens moving forward. to see more of that piece, please go on line. what they did on sunday morning was knockouts. you can hear more of "cbs this morning," including extended interviews and original content, on our podcast. before we go, we've got some tips on how to use this time at home to invest in your professional future. thinking about that, too. we'll be right back.

before we go, here's one thing you can do today to live a happi happier, healthier, more productive life. part of our partnership with gretchen ruben and her pacific "happier." gretchen joins us with tips on how we can invest in our professional futures. gretchen, good morning. so i mean, if you're inside, you're not going to the office, maybe you don't have a job, how can you take steps to improve your likelihood of having a job or thriving in the future? >> one thing you want to do is present yourself with as much strength as possible. so this is a time to update your resume, update your linkedin profile. if i have bio on a company website year our own, if you need to draft a cover letter, think about your responsibilities, strengths, achievements, so you can put your best foot forward. >> you also say now's not a bad time to consider a lifestyle change. what do you mean? >> well, for some people, there's so much uncertainty, it

might be helpful to think do i need to get a roommate, should i think about moving back home, should i move to a less expensive city or neighborhood. it can be daunting to think about these big changes. now is the time where you could start thinking about what that might mean for you. >> so gretchen, real quick, what is one thing you can do to create a more productive space at home from which to do all this extra work? >> well, we're all working at home. one thing is to clear out all the -- the files, clear the shelves, try to make more space for yourself. tackle those projects that you've been putting off. and sometimes you can discover new space that you could use like maybe you can have a phone booth made out of a storage closet. you can create a -- a place if you're doing a lot of video chats where maybe you're more set up to look professional. again, put your best foot forward. >> all right. all right. all really good advice. we can all be productive if we put our minds to it. thank you so much. before we go, one birthday greeting i want to give a shout out to. that would be to my son, nick

mason, who as many of you who follow me on instagram know has basically been turning the lights on in this home studio we have here for the last few weeks. well, fortunately for me -- this is him when he was 2 years old. he turns 20 today on this 20th day of april, 2020. and i want to thank him for all the work he's been doing for the last few weeks. he's gotten up without complaint for four weeks straight at 5:30 in the morning to help me out. he's done an amazing job. so happy birthday to my guy. >> bravo. bravo, nick. we all know anthony mason -- he can be a grumpy bear as a papa bear every now and then. let me be clear, he loves you very much, nick. i mean -- out of this world. so bravo. thanks for getting him on tv with us every morning. >> no, i was going to have him sit on my knee like he did teddy but he didn't fit in the shot. >> bravo. bravo, and happy birthday to

nick. we offer our congratulations. too. you call him "the boy." i like seeing your postings with "the boy." see you if i could do one thing, i'd make sure there were more textbooks in schools. i'm a teacher. i've seen the need, but my girlfriend here likes to say ... "don't just talk about it, be about it." and we're about the 2020 census. because when everyone gets counted on the census, it helps inform public funding in our neighborhood for the next ten years!

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good morning. i'm gianna franco. it's 8:55. we start with with a trouble spot. a traffic alert has been issued for an accident with two vehicles. one vehicle is facing the wrong way. a lot of activity on the scene. injuries reported as well. it's actually affecting the vanitian bridge. the traffic alert has been issued. keep that in mind if you're utilizing the bridge this morning. you will see the brake lights because of that. also looking at traffic northbound 101 at 92. reports of a trouble spot there as well. we should be in the clearing stages.

brake lights southbound 101 into san mateo and the usual slow-and-go counties. it's one of the new situations through the shelter-in-place time. this is a normal basis for the commute. the bridges are quiet no delay there is, and that's your traffic. let's look at the forecast. here's mary. gianna, it's a gray start to our day, and tracking a few spotty sprinkles or showers, picking up in locations that have seen it a hundredth of an inch of rain. not a lot for sure, but we are looking at a weak weather system bringing an isolated shower chance or sprinkle throughout the day. temperatures low to mid-50s with those cloudy skies, and our treasure island camera, and mostly cloudy along the coast and along the bay. 59 in san francisco. 62 for oakland. 66 in san jose, and 66 for concord. headed through tomorrow, we are going to warm

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