captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on first firs "face te nation," the grim march to couny continues, as unpliementd unempt soars to levels unseen since the great depression. 20.5 million people lost their jobs last month. for unemployment in just the last six weeks. one in seven working americans are out of a job. will the president push for more federal aid to help those who are struggling. >> president trump: well, we're in no rush. we're in no rush. >> brennan: the covid-19 numbers are staggering, u w thefou mn 1. million j >> as bad as this has

been, it is just the beginning. >> brennan: despite the dire warnings from medical experts, the do what i say, not what i do, mindset at the white house continues, as two staffers with close proximity to the president and vice president test positive for the virus. and three top coronavirus task force members quarantined. the c.d.c. recommends that americans wear masks, but that is not enforced at the white house. >> president trump: this is going to go away without a vaccine. and we're not going tsee it again, hopefully, after a period of time. >> brennan: that type of wishful thinking drew a rare review from the presidents predecessor. former president obama called the response anemic and spotty. >> it has been an absolute chaotic disaster, when for mend t with any whe at mindsets

operationalized in our government. >> brennan: well talk with economic advisor kevin hassett, as well as former google c.e.o. eric schmidt. he is now leading a project to reimagine parts of the economy. dr. christopher murray, director of the ?riewt for inste for health evaluation will share covid-19 projections. and we'll hear from scott gottlieb. finally, we'll ask the president of the university of virginia, jim ryan, what challenges school officials are facing as they plaor the fa it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." we begin today with the financial fallout from the covid-19 pandemic. the numbers are brutal. the official unemployment

rate jumped more than 10 points, from 4.4% for march to april's 14.7%. cbs news national correspondent mark strassman is in atlanta. >> reporter: good morning, margaret. if you think about it, one month is all it took. one month for the best jobs economy in the last 50 years to plummet into worries about a second great depression. hunger is motivating. by 5:00 a.m. in connecticut, this grocery give-away had a line of cars waiting. >> we need foo jobf. orterlneh ildren under 12 now report their families don't have enough to eat. today's food lines recall soup lines during the great depression. >> there is a broader unemployment rate, a rate that encompasses people who may be sidelined because they are not actually looking for work

actively, and that rate is nearly 23% unemployment. >> reporter: that is a depression-era number. like hunger marchers in 1932, protestors in 2020 push to reclaim their piece of america. and it's economy, in deep freeze. on this mother's day weekend, this protest in olympia, washington, drew more than 1,000 people. they demanded the governor speed up his reopening plan. tesla is fed up with california. let its factory reopen or the car-maker says it will move to texas or nevada. and florida is reopening salons and barber shops tomorrow. doomsd pdictio for florida. those have not borne out. >> reporter: maybe not, but last week was florida's deadliest since its covid outbreak started. containing covid-19, whether the virus resurgence later this year

and when people feel safe again. polls show most americans expect a full recovery to take at least a year. some financial analysts argue, count on aec >> any hope of a v-helped recovery, where you go down sharply and recover sharply, i think that is thrown out the window. >> reporter: georgia led the country were its limited reopen. consumer response has been mixed. in the roughly two weeks since the state eased its restrictions, now covid cases have gone up nearly 20%. >> brennan: mark strassman, thanks. news coespoent elizabeth palmer has our report about what is going on in the rest of the world. >> reporter: margaret gret,the overall number of deaths every day is dropping, thanks in part to controlled measures in new york, and, of course, in europe.

but many countries are in the real thick of the crisis. like russia. yesterday was the anniversary of the end of world war ii. but there was little to celebrate. in spite of moscow's ultra strict lockdown, russia reported 10,000 new covid cases every day last week. in neighboring bella russia, in spite of a serious outbreak, the president remains in covid denial. he has called it a psychosis, and welcomed huge crowds to his country's victory day ceremony on saturday. and there were crowds in brazil, too, demonstrating in support of the world's other great covid denier, who still refuses to social distance. though rio's famous

statute wears a mask. south rearia hasouth korea has s baseball season with masked cheerleaders performing in empty stadiums. strict measures early on have almost eliminated covid, but the president warned, it isn't over until it is over. after nightclub in seoul had to close abruptly when there was a fresh outbreak. now it is the developing world being closely watched by public health experts. in africa and southeast asia, the virus seems to be spreading more slowly, maybe because the population tends, on af rageaverage to be young, but no one is sure and it might well be that the worst is yet to come. here in britain, prime minister boris johnson is due to go on television tonight to explain how we get out of our lockdown. and there is some speculation that the roadmap will include a

two-week quarantine period, margaret, for anyone arriving on these shores. >> brennan: elizabeth palmer, thank you. kevin hassett is a white house economic advisor and he joins us this more. good morning to you, kevin. >> good morning. >> brennan: you called this one of the worst jobs reports every. we know that this has hit hispanic and african-american populations exceptionally hard. and that these numbers we're seeing likely don't reflect the real pain out there.e istom this? >> well, you know, you're exactly right to emphasize that. the african-american community and the hispanic-american community have been hit especially hard by this jobs report. with both of those communities, which were really experiencing record-low unemployment rates in january, seeing massive, massive increases of unemployment. right now looking across the u.s., there are more

than 30 million people getting initial claims for unemployment insurance, that is the biggest negative shot to the jobs market since world war ii. to get unemployment rates, like the ones we're about to see, will climb up to 20% next month, have you to go back to the great depression to see that. there are a lot of economic differences between right now and the great depression. here we understand why the economy is slowing down and we expect we can reverse it. whereas in the depression, there were a lot of policy errors that made the whole thing drag out.on budget office forecasts the second half of the year will be one of recovery, and god willing, that will happen. and that's the view shared by the white house. i think you can expect to see jobs trough in may or june. >> brennan: may or june would be the low point for unemployment, at what rate? >> that's about what we expect, yeah. you know, i'm looking for rates north of 20, sadly.

>> brennan: north of 20. >> part of this is not really a science as much as arithmatic. >> brennan: after the financial crisis, it took a decade to get back to employment levels prior to that. you said on friday that when it comes to this crisis, there is kind of a silver lining in the jobs report that you saw because, you said, almost everybody accounted for the increase in unemployment said go back to wok within six months. i'm sure they hope to, but isn't that just wishful thinking at this point? you don't know that? >> right. nobody knows it. it's very unsatisfying, just like none of us really know when the virus is going to be either treatable or there will be a vaccine. or it will be gone, in which case we can really just go back to our lives. the fact is, if you think about the things that would happen that would make it hard to turn on the economy, that's like

bankruptcies and business failures and so on. we built a bridge to the other side by having these small business loans, called the p.p.p. loans, and having a mainstream lending facility, and the idea is to try to keep firms up and running -- maybe not running, but up -- and connected with their workers so when we turn the switch back on, they can get going right away. nobody knows for sure whether it is going to work exactly that way, but the congressional budget office, that's their expectation right now. >> brennan: if you look at the reality for the people getting hit the hardest, brookings says one in everyun whatponsibility does the white house have to respond to that? don't you need to look at doing things, like increasing the amount of money available for food stamps? >> right. we need to look at everything. we mailed very large checks to more than 180 million families,. >> brennan: are you

going to have to do that again? >> you're right to emphasize the schools. so many children get two meals a day at school. we have schools within a few miles of my house in d.c., without those meals, the principal tells me they would go hungry. and the kids who aren't going to school, many don't have internet, and they're not connected to society, and it's a terrible tragedy. the white house has an opportunity council that is putting together the major proposal that we expect is going to be part of whatever happens in the phase 4 deal to fill in the gaps that we're noticing as we watch the data. absolutely, there is a lot that needs to be done, especially for the most disvached. disadvantaged. >> brennan: larry kudlow said this week that you're putting off talks about more emergency rescue paag y ouhink youwait lon

>>re what we are doing, okay? we've done this, maybe counting the fed numbers, up to $9 trillion worth of action. what we're doing, as the states around the country, you know, are starting to turn their economies back on, and so what we're doing is watching very closely what happens to those states, as they get their economies up relatively quickly. does the opening of the state lead to a new outbreak of the disease? we have built a bridge that pretty much lasts for quite a bit of time right now, w $9 trillion, and the question becomes, is phase 4 going to be extending the bridge because we're not there yet, or is it going to be focused on growth because when we're on the other side, we have a healthy economy. we're basically building a plan for either scenario, and we're going to be ready to act as soon as we need to. i think right now we have bought some time, with all of the money we've thrown

at the economy, and we've been using the time to do things like develop treatments, improve our treatments, learn more about social distancing and so on. >> brennan: yeah. but companies and employers nee need to know what do do to safely reopen. the white house is testing staff regularly. is that what you're advising america's businesses to do? when will the c.d.c. release specific guidance? >> you know, i'm not a doctor. i'm just an economist. >> brennan: neither of these c.e.o.s. that's why they're asking for the c.d.c. to provide guidance. >> that's right. of course we need to ramp up testing. that is something the president heavily emphasized. and last week we had a day where there was 3,000 new tests. you're absolutely right, the testing is a key component of it. but even testing doesn't remove all risks. so the interesting, or sad think about my dear colleague who was stricken

with the coronavirus this week, we were getting tested becauserese to the president, every day, and even with that, you know, she tested negative one day and positive the next day, and she is going to work at a community where people are being tested. so this is a very, very scary virus. that people are going to go back to work and they're going to be worried about things, and it will it take a while for things to get back to normal. but we maximize that things happen quickly by making testing available. >> brennan: when it comes to your work environment that you just described, do you wear a mask? are you going to continue to show up for work at the white house? >> you know, i've got a mask right here. and the fact is that i practice aggressive social distancing. i'll wear a mask when i feel it is necessary. it is scary to go to work. you know, i was not part of the white house in i t i'd lotsafer i wasoi

the west wing, but it is a time when people have to step up and serve their country. if i think about the amazing accomplishments of the team that we put together that has been down in the basement of the white house getting data from all over the government to help us decide how to solve the ventilator proper and the p.p.e. problems -- you've been in the west wing. you know it is a small, crowded place. it is a little risky, but you have to do it because you have to serve your country. there are a lot of things you can't do except there. if you're going to have secure communications, you have to be in the communication room. >> brennan: kevin hassett, thank you so much for your time. we'll be back in a moment with some new coronavirus projections. helping people stay in their homes through mortgage payment relief efforts and donating $175 million dollars to help hundreds

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i.h.m. e. institute director dr. christopher murray in is seattle and he joins us. good morning. >> good morning. >> brennan: what is your model showing you today? >> doctor: so our projections throughstth are up. we're up to 137,000 deaths that we expect to see, and that's the affect of two things going in opposite directions: some goodish news coming out of new york and new jersey and michigan, where the death cases and death numbers are coming down faster than expected. some other states where cases and deaths are going up more than we expected, illinois, and then arizona, florida, california, as examples of that. and so it is the balancing of those layers driving our numbers. of course, we're seeing just explosive increases in mobility in a number of states that we expect will translate into more cases

anin deaths in 10days from now. >> brennan: this is, today, the second time in about a week that you've raised these projections. what is driving the change? >> doctor: well, what is driving the change is simply put the rise in mobility. and that's the key driver. we're seeing, in some states, a 20 percentage point increase in 10 days in mobility. and that will translate into more human contact, more transmission. and the other thing that we're seeing in some states is -- which is why we like to revise the forecast on a very regular basis -- is that we're seeing more cases in deaths than expected in certain places. but it is mostly mobility that is driving up the numbers. >> brennan: and you are looking at mobility through tracking cell phone data. is thisilecau ld quarae

fatigue and people are going out and about more than they should? >> doctor: i think it is a bit of both. we're seeing increases in mobility even in anticipation of the relaxation of social distancing, but there is definitely arelation. the places that are taking off the social-distancing mandate, the bump in mobility appears to be larger. so somewhere like georgiangeorgia,which was one oe first, it is in the category of a big increase. it is definitely aixture of both. >> brennan: we spoke, just before you, with one of the economic advisors, and she sai he said they want to see what happens in the states as they pull back restrictions, and whether that leads to a new outbreak of the disease, hut do you have any indication that that is happening?

>> doctor: well, i think that the big challenge here is that when we model the relationship between mobility and transmission, most of the data that is informing that is coming from when people reduce their mobility. and we saw a reduction in transmission. namely, social distancing works. now that we're coming out, the big question mark is: will people's own behavior, acting responsibly, wearing a mask, avoiding coming into physical close contact, will they be enough to counteract the effects of rising mobility? so we really are going to have to wait and see. our suspicion is that there will be, about 10 days from now, in these places that have had the big increases in mobility, we are expecting to see a jump in cases. >> brennan: what places? what are the potential hotspots in the next 10 days? >> doctor: as i mentioned a moment ago,

the big in creations in mobility -- there are five states at the top. some of those have had modest epidemics so far, so they may not be huge numbers. the top five are montana, north dakota, south dakota, minnesota, and georgia. but there is another 10 states or more where there has been a 10 to 15 percentage point in mobility. pretty diverse. so we may see a lot of states tipping towards increasing cases in the next two weeks. >> brennan: would you advice americans to travel? the treasury secretary was on anothetws great time for people to explore america. would you advice them to do that? >> doctor: you know, i would give people advice -- i tend to practice what i preach, and so we're not traveling. my family and i, and we have no intention of traveling. i think it is all part of trying to think about a

route back to work and school, and that entails trying to minimize exposure and close physical contact, which is hard to do if you're traveling. so personal advice would be: protect yourselves, wear a mask, and try to minimize interactions with others. >> brennan: what does the data tell you about how affective wearing a mask actually is? >> doctor: that's one of the big question marks. we know that the medical masks are highly affective and also ver not available, nor is it likely that people are going to feel comfortable wearing medical masks. the big question is the affectiveness of cloth masks. we believe they are affective. just how affective is the subject of a lot of research and discussion. we don't have an exact number on it. it is onefhese factors that we're going to have

to wait and watch and see what happens. the good news is that there are -- there is more and more data coming in on who is wearing a face mask, and we may be able to figure out from what is happening community by community across the u.s., whether those places that are wearing masks more are seeing less transmission. so, again, more data will teach us more. >> brennan: we'll be watching for that. thank you, dr. murray, for that. we'll be back in a moment with a lot more "face the nation." how many pints of iced tea are left in the pitcher? times... ten... so, wait... (errhhhhh) do you want to show us the continents on the... no. it is not going good. my mom is getting stressed out. (speaks hebrew) momma's tired. i, i'm, like... woooo... (screams) (sighs heavily)

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during business hours. >> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation." we go now to west port, connecticut, and former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. good to have you bake with us. >> doctor: thank you. >> brennan: we heard from the f.d.a. they have given emergency use authorization for the first antigen test to discover covid-19, so that is any substance that causes your immune system to produce antibodies against it.how ant ishis authorization? how will this work? >> doctor: well, i think this kind of technology is a real game-changer. this test was authorized by the f.d.a. under the leadership of jeff sherin, who runs that center. what it is is it is a very rapid test that can be used in a doctor'srs hav0,00

neea inalledof a swab, and the test -- the test is about 85% sensitive. so let's say 100 people come into a doctor's office who has covid-19, 85 will be tested positive with this test very quickly. it will probably be about $5 a test. and you can get a result in about five minutes. for the other 15, the doctors will have to have an indexes of suspicion that the person has the covid-19, and they send off the tests. but for the 85 patients you can screen out right away, you're getting a very fast result and you can start taking reaction immediately. the company says they will be able to produce about 200,000 starting right away, but in several weeks, they can produce up to 1.5 million. as long as doctors are going to be able to run the tests in their

offices. >> brennan: as long as they can run t how di tnd testi sg to capacity, andy'reing for does this solve those challenges? >> doctor: well, it helps solve the challenges. i mean, every test paradigm is a little bit different. it has pros and cons. the p.c.r. -based tests, where the states have struggled to get the testing supplies, they're more accurate, but they take more time, and they cost more to perform. the reimbursement is about $100. there is point of care basis. the abbott machine that the white house is using, which is very reliable, those take a little longer to get a result the sensi isn't as good, with the exception of the "g" expert. the tests are not as sensitive. so they'll miss some patients who have covid. but in the hands of a doctor, who has a high suspicion that the person

may have the disease, and they get a negative affect, and they think the patient may infected, they'll send off the p.c.r. test. they're very easy to perform. most doctors have these machines already in their offices. they're using them for strep throat and flu. the guidance from the c.d.c. will be how doctors test in their offices. if turning over a positive case in your medical office means you have to do a deep cleaning and quarantine your nursing staff and close your office, doctors aren't going to be testing, and that would be unfortunate. so c.d.c. has to come out with flexible guidelines and how doctors can protect their offices andnd also been testing in the community. because if we can't do that, then we're not going to have access to testing. the challenge won't be the platforms. there will be plenty of capacity to perform tests. the challenge will become where can you go get the tests. >> brennan: you said it could be more accurate than the testing system the white house is currently using. let me ask you about the

aides who have been testing positive at the white house. the top three medical officials in the u.s. government are in self-quarantine because of possible exposure. they work in a white house, which is a fortress. but the virus has still made it inside. i want to play for you what president trump said when he revealed one of vice-president pence's aides tested positive. >> president trump: she tested positive out of the blue. this is why the whole concept of tests aren't necessarily great. the tests are perfect, but something can happen between a test where it is good and then something happens and all of a sudden she was tested very recently and tested negative, and then today, i guess, for some reason she tested positive. >> brennan: the president seems to be doubting the value of testing in the workplace. what's your view? >> doctor: well, if any testing has value in a workplace, especially when you're dealing with places where there are people at

higher risk of getting infected, so you think about people who work on a shop floor or a grocery store -- the antigen-based test is actually less sensitive than thehe usit also had f which means sometimes people will have the virus but the test will say they don't. the reason why the white house prefers the abbott machine is it gives a result in five to 15 minutes, and the "g" test takes about 45 minutes. this is why we need to have testing out in the community. this is why we need to have very accurate tests. in the setting of a doctor's office, where someone is symptomatic, using a test without high sensitivity, might be okay, but in the setting where you're testing people who are asymptomatic, as the white house is doing, and you

are trying to catch those people who don't have any symptoms, you want a very sensitive test for that kind of purp. that's what we should be using in the employment setting as well. >> brennan: we talked a lot about remdesivir, we interviewed the c.e.o. of the company that makes that drug, and he told us the government would be deciding who the drug gets to and where. the rollout this week was pretty chaotic. yesterday h.h.s. revealed its new plan for distribution. what does this indicate to you about how things will work in the future with other drugs or potentially a vaccine? >> doctor: well, look, i think we need to get a better system in place. if the government is going to take control of the supply of these kind of they wertherapeutics -- they che to do that. here in this case, ributed 4,000- nk they should have been able to push out as many as possible. there is no reason to hoard it or hold on to it.

hopefully when they start to contemplate the next therapeutic -- and there will be more therapeutics in the fall, or a vaccine -- they'll have a better system in place based on clinical needs. >> brennan: all right. thank you very much for your in sight, dr. gottlieb. we'll be right back with a look at how some businesses may be looking a little different in the near future.

>> brennan: we want to go now to the former c.e.o. of google, eric schmidt. he is leading a new york commission to reimagine sectors of the economy in light of the coronavirus pandemic. he joins us from miami this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> brennan: we just heard from one of the white house economic advisors that the worst is yet to come on the unemployment front. what jobs, in your view, will continue to exist? >> well, a lot will, but they'll operate in different ways. we're going to have to reimagine how the

workplace works. we're going to have to figure out how to get people into buildings that they're fearful of. my guess is we'll have more demand for office les becae people will want social distancing. we'll have to think about hub and spoke systems, where people don't travel so far. we'll have to really re-think how businesses operate. they need their employees back. >> brennan: after 9/11 in manhattan you saw people establish homes outside the city. you saw businesses move outside of major cities. is there something that we know is in the works time around? >> you can be sure that something like that will happen. if you think of it as an employer, you have a bunch they will die.who a afr i they're very concerned about -- they're immuno-compromised or what

have you. imagine there are three or four people. one will go to the office, one will stay home, and some will go near their town working environment. it will change the pattern. we've had the situation where people moved to super cities in these incredibondways, d that will che in the next few years. you don't need to be in the super city in order to participate in the excitement of these super cities. the commission, by the way, is intending to work just not on the city but the suburban and ruler folks. everybody has problems, everyone has had concerns, and they're very different situations. >> brennan: corporations are being forced to try to do things in a different way, but many may use this as an excuse or an accelerant to make some big, strategic shifts. what does the economy look like on the other side of it? what does that mean? >> one way to think about this is that this

one-month, two-month period has brought forth years of change. the internet is essential to doing business to operate our lives. for example, we need much better broadband in the ruler areas. another example would be telehealth. 80% of the visits to doctors have been on telehealth. people have been wanting this to happen for years. now we can actually measure everybody and do it remotely. and only if you have to, you go in to see the doctor. by the way, that's more convenient for you as a patient. there are all sorts of examples. another thing that we'll have to do is we'll have to have all sorts of interestingf social monitoring of one kind or another to look forhese hotspots. so systems there have to be developed to see, oh, my god, there is an outbreak over there, and let's get to it right now before the spread begins. >> brennan: but one of the things that this crisis has also made obvious is not just income disparity but access to

internet, as you just said. if someone doesn't have access to broadband or they don't have a computer, how do you make up for that difference? who pays for that? >> well, we have to solve that problem. and when the government does another one of the huge stimulus bills, let's put some stimulus into broadband access, especially for ruler areas. the cities are in pretty good shape. let's figure out ways for people who don't have access to computers or libraries -- find aa way for them to get access. mobile phones are another solution. you can't participate to this new economy without access to the computer. it's how you're going to learn, how you're going to market and how you're going to sell. the sales people won't be traveling as much. they'll be doing it with the equivalent of zoom and other services like that. >> brennan: it's not just -- you're talking about federal funding to build out infrastructure,

like wi-fi. but what we've learned because some of the back logs with unemployment with the states, their basic infrastructure, their computers, are so out-moted, they can't even process the demand. you're talking about not just rebuilding, but completely remaking how states function. >> what you're learning through this is that the government at the federal and state level have just terrible infrastructure in the software department. they're still using colbolt systems, which was 45 years ago, and the programmers are no longer with us. so we've really got to upgrade these systems. there are much better technologies that are much more secure. you can see them in the private sector. the public sector has lagged for what set of reasons. because of this, it will accelerate all of that. if you look forward to it, many of your services will

pbe online. your health will be online. much of your education will be online. there will be other systems. people will say it is better if you get on the subway now because it is less crowded because you don't want to be on a subway when it is full of everybody. these kinds of changes are easy for computer systems to do if they're in place. >> brennan: the wall street journals reporting that the trump administration is in talks with intel and some other companies to move facilities back to the united states, to have manufacturing be here. do you see that change in the global supply change happening? >> well, we've built, in the last 10 or 20 years, this extraordinary efficient global supply chain with many, many steps. we have now learned it is not resilient. there has been, for at least a decade, a great concern about our overreliance on taiwan in particular, and foreign ship manufacturing. and there is an initiative within the government, which is very important,

that we get domestic supply of foundries, the places where chips are made, and companies like intel and t.m.s.c., which is in taiwan -- trying to get them into our country so we have better control. it is important from a standpoint of our own economics. it's also important for national security. we want to make sure that our critical infrastructure is owned and controlled by america. never bet against america. we are the innovators in our world. we should be able to do this well. >> brennan: we'll leave it on that note: never bet against america. thank you, eric schmidt. >> thank you. >> brennan: we will be back in a moment.

>> brennan: it is graduation season from.. as students finish high school and college in the next few weeks, the big question that students and parents have, what will the fall and their future look like. jim ryan is the president of the univers o virginia, my alma mater, along with former "face

the nation" moderator john dickerson. so you have not yet canceled all summer courses or the fall semester. how do you make this decision? what are you telling parents right now? >> so we are in the midst of trying to figure out how we can have as many students back on grounds in the fall and in classrooms, and to do that safely. and we're working night and day to figure out exactly how d to do that, and we'll make announcement about the fall in mid-june. we're trying to push it back as far as we can so we'll have the best information when we pacthe rtainly do.umakethe decn, but wa what do you mean when you are taking into consideration health standards? do you expect to have to test every student before they come back to grounds? >> i think in order for us

to be able to have students back on grounds and in classrooms, there are a few basic things we're going to need. one is testing capacity. i think we would need to test students when they first arrive, and faculty and staff before the arrive. we'll need to have the ability to do contact tracing and to be able to quarantine students who have been exposed. and we're always going to be able to enact social social-distancing protocols, in classrooms and dining halls. it is a complicated task. college campuses are a difficult and challenging place for contagious viruses. >> brennan: what you just described is what mayors and governors are telling me they have to do. what is the state telling you? will all virginia state schools make the same decision at the same time and do the same thing? >> so we are in contact

with the department of education, and i'm also in close contact with my colleagues at virginia colleges and universities. and we are all trying to work against the same challenge. and my hope is that there will be a set of guidelines that we can all agree to and all follow. but not all of us are in the same situation as well. some of us have smaller campuses than others, and some are more local than others. i think we're all following the same principles, and all guided by concerns around public health. but because circumstances differ from campus to campus, some might be able oter saysooner than able to have more students back than others. >> brennan: u.v.a. has more international students. as you look at applicants, how are you taking into consideration, not just where people are coming from, but how many people to accept at the university? >> yeah. so international students are a particular

challenge. a number of them are not likely to be able to be back in time. so one thing that we know for sure is that we will have courses that are online in order to provide an education to students who can't come back to campus. that may be true for students who are out of state or in state, who are at high risk as well. but our admissions season this year was remarkably strong. we had a higher yield than we did last year. and we fully expect to have a fully enrolled class when fall comes around. >> brennan: higher yield -- do e acceptances. >> a higher percentage accepted our offer ofan year. which is a little surprising, given the uncertainty. >> brennan: u.v.a. obviously has a strong athlete program, on the basketball front and the football front as well. those are also revenue

streams. what do you know about the athletic season? what is the plan? >> which is a great question. we're taking it day by day. obviously we have to have students back on grounds before football can begin. but our athletic director and our football coach are committed first and foremost to the safety and well-being of our players. they'll begin practice when the medical experts tell them that it is safe to do so. our hope, obviously, is that there is a football season this fall. i don't imagine it will look like normal football seasons. just like i don't imagine if we have alltu backn grounds, it will look like a normal semester. it will not be a normal semester next fall, regardless of which path with follow. >> brennan: the federal government passed this massive package called the cares act, and private universities with very substantial endowments, like harvard and princeton, took a lot of public pressure for even applying for any kind of

financial help. u.v.a. has a financial endowment of about $10 million and did take it. how do you explain that? >> we accepted the funding because it is helping our students. half of the funding we receive goes directly to students in need. we created a student hardship fund that we've been using to provide grants for technology, for online learning, for transportation, for living expenses. and those needs are only going to continue throughout the summer and the fall. half of the funding we received is directly related to providing assistance to our students. the other half reimburses us for costs that we incurred, including reballotinreting housing and dining costs. and so we're really passing it on to the students. >> brennan: okay. president ryan, good luck to you and all upcoming graduates. >> thank you very much. >> brennan: we'll be right back with a tribute to all mothers.

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>> brennan: today we honor and celebrate mothers. they continue to go above and beyond, more so today than ever before. across the country, moms are keeping households afloat, turning kitchen tables into school rooms and home offices. and trying to explain to little ones why life as we knew it disappeared. the reality of gender dynamics is being revealed. 75% of mothers with young children are in the

workforce. moms are the primary or sole earners for 40% of those households, according to the labor department. this week we learned that they're losing their job t higr rate than men. >> i was laid off due to a decrease in patient volume. >> i'm teacher, mom, nurse, provider, everything. i'm all of it. i mean, it's a challenge. >> brennan: the majority of nurses, nursing home aides and child care workers are women. those moms must figure out who protects their children while they continue working. >> i wonder how much my children suffer from me kind of giving everything at work and coming home to it.gh because i am going to home-school all day and i work overnight. >> brennan: some of us are mourning mothers lost to this virus in an isolation that robs

families of last moments. other first-time moms are unable to hug grandma and granddad. we cannot gather. but mother's day is about celebrating those who gave us life itself. and this year we are especially grateful for that. and we want to wish all of the mothers out there a happy mother's day. and to my mom and my mother-in-law, happy mother's day. and thank you for all that you do. for "face the nation," i'm margaret brennan. ♪ captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

(rock music) - [announcer] gametime with boomer esiason. this week's guest is international hockey hall of famer and three time stanley cup champion, scott stevens. presented by geico. - as kids, today's guest and his two brothers battled on the rink behind their house in ontario, canada, each hoping to play in the nhl. well, he bame a hard hitting defenseman who skated 22 years with the capitals, blues, and devils, taking the devils to three stanley cups as their captain. it is my pleasure to welcome nhl hall of famer and nhl network analyst, scott stevens,