an african-american man threatening my life. >> when she called police and said, i am being threatened by a black man, she knew exactly what she was doing. these are historical problems that go back to slavery. if we think that we do a week of de-escalation training or week of anti-bias training we're going to solve all the problems, we're totally fooling ourselves. >> reporter: during our year-long investigation, we visited departments across the country to see their training practices. >> how quick can you take that -- >> reporter: in 2000 we saw a virtual de-escalation training. firearm training in ferguson. a >> we take people and put them in boxes. >> reporter: and in new york city officers are taught how to identify and minimize the negative stereo types. 69% of the departments who responded to our survey told us they have racial bias training including minneapolis police. they said they have been teaching bias training since

2015, and de-escalation training since before 2005. >> i don't know that it opened my eyes too much. >> reporter: this phoenix officer told us during our investigation that implicit bias training can do more harm than good. we agreed to hide his face so he could speak freely. will it change how you do your job? >> no. >> reporter: why not? >> i don't think i was doing it incorrectly to begin with. >> reporter: what do you think has come out of these changes that you don't think are good? >> officers second-guessing their actions. >> reporter: sounds like that could be dangerous. >> deadly. >> reporter: black men are still more likely to die in police custody than their white counterparts. spike moss has been an activist in minnesota since 1966. >> our people have been watching this over and over again. our young people don't even know how long we've been fighting. because the news suppresses the message. they're tired. they're tired of being abused. tired of being beaten. tired of being killed. >> reporter: gil spent more than four decades in law enforcement before joining the obama administration. he believes officers have a duty

to intervene when they see bad behavior. >> if your partner is using inappropriate, you'v st him or her from doing that. often the frustration of officers is that, i'm not like that. i don't want to be judged by what officer chauvin did. and yet the reality is they know that they all wear that blue uniform.orte johnson said training needs to be backed up by strong policies to hold officers accountable. >> you need to look at who you're hiring demographically. does your department reflect the demographics of the city? are they policing their neighbors or do they live 50 miles outside of town? what behaviors are you rewarding? who is getting promoted? >> reporter: he says there are no shortcuts when it comes to earning the trust of the community. >> you have to put yourself out there on a regular basis in the community. and then you have to actually

show progress. it's not enough to just talk the talk. you have to walk thewalk. and i think people are rightfully skeptical right now. they've heard the words before, but then we keep finding ourselves back in the situation. >> reporter: the minneapolis police department told us when they completed that survey, that all of its officers had completed de-escalation training and implicit bias training, and that they had refresher courses at least once a year. and what that means is that the officer at the center of this case, derek chauvin, would have completed those courses. >> jeff pegues in minneapolis. the "cbs overnight news" will be right back. we have a saying at us foods: we help you make it. you, the independent restaurants of america... we've always got your back,

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after shows like and carl reiner for years. it's where he hosts his weekly lunch. that is suspended for now as are millions of other meaningful social gatherings for millions of americans. it also means if you want to talk to mel brooks and carl reinor, it's going to be a cyber chat. that's where the two old friends got together to talk about world war ii, the depression, the notion of sacrifice, and, of course, to give each other the business. let the bickering begin. >> carl, stop talking for one minute. >> okay. >> reporter: a real-life comedy routine. >> wow, i can't believe it. >> reporter: from two best friends. >> i think the only way to get through this crisis is to sing a world war ii song, and that song is "we did it before and we can do it again." ♪ we can do it again >> i'd rather sing --

♪ ♪ >> came closer. you open carl up, there's no closing. ♪ >> oh, that's great. >> reporter: the mel and carl show hasn't closed since they met as tv joke writers in the 1950s. >> i didn't know who he was. i came to work for the show of show's, the straight man. there's a little guy in the room. >> reporter: call it laugh at first sight. >> i didn't know who he was, and he was impersonating a jewish pirate. i'll never forget those first words. he says, you know how hard it is to set sail these days? you know what they're charging for sail?teor now 98, carl is still mel's straight and mel only 93, continues to be,

well, mel. how are you coping? >> i am not watching the news and i'm telling everybody, watch old black and white movies. by the way, i have a great suggestion. it's called young frankenstein. >> penny for your thoughts. >> mmmm. >> it will do you a little good and it will do me a lot of good. >> reporter: show biz has been good to both of them. their resumes are hollywood com. >> hi there, remember me? >> "herhi. >> reporter: including dick van dike show and blazing saddles for carl. >> hi, i'm max brooks. >> reporter: max brooks is mel's son, historian and author of devolution. >> does anybody need to see friends? i think it's mel brooks. >> i think there is nobody in america right now finding it more difficult to socially distance than my dad. >> hi, dad. >> he thrives on crowds. he thrives on friends.

for him to have to sit at home behind glass is brutally hard on him right now. but he is doing what he has to do because he understands that. >> reporter: americans of mel and carl's generation understand struggle and sacrifice. they both grew up during the depression and served their country in world war ii. is there a message to give to other generations from you guys about this sense that we can get through this, we have done this before? >> well, we've done it before. there's a guy named hitler that w we're still around and he's not. >> we can get through this. this is a breeze. we just have to grin and bear it. >> i think the greatest generations' message to all of us is that in times of crisis, everyone has a part to play. you cannot just live your life for you. you are part of a whole. you're part of a community. and you must do your part. >> reporter: of course, doing your part during a crisis is all

relative. easier for some than others. >> welcome. live long and prosper. >> reporter: george, the star trek actor, talking to us through a glass door at his home. a japanese-american born in los angeles, his life changed months after pearl harbor when armed american soldiers came to the home and took the family away. >> i was 5 years old at the time. we were seen as the enemy. we were put on a crowded train and transported two-thirds of the way across the country stott swamps of arkansas to a barbed wire internment camp. soldiers with machine guns pointed at us. >> when you hear the chinese virus, the wuhan virus -- >> it gets my blood boiling. it is a threat to us. a chinese-american woman in a new york subway was yelled at and chased and assaulted. and then in san francisco a woman was yelled at and spat at. it is so important to have wise

leadership that knows history. i'm keeping my social distance, but sending you all the good wit mel and carl aren't watching star trek. no offense, george. they're sticking to classic movies and game shows. >> we turn on jeopardy at the same time and we turn on wheel of fortune. >> reporter: being apart and staying together, and a little advice to the country's leaders. >> don't scare us, you know. i don't mean to soft pedal anything, but try to persuade us with your reason, with your logic. tell us how to get through it. and show us by example how much you care aboutnd c w in it. >> reporter: mel, you started to sing that song. can i ask you to sing that song again? ♪ we did it before and we can do it again and we will do it

again ♪ ♪ knock them over and then we'll get the guy back

as peaceful protests continue around the country, some activists fear that their message is or will be drowned out by vandals and looters. each morning communities are forced to clean up the damage. vladim vladimir spoke to someone. >> reporter: outside a starbucks in los angeles, it has been viewed online more than a million times. >> if you are tagging on b of black lives matter, ask someone black. don't do that. that's not what we want. we're not going to get anything done by doing that. >> how dare you add another target to our backs. we are out here because we are targets right now. >> reporter: court any nicole gardener recorded this moment in

hopes others would see protesters sticking up for their community, not tearing it down. just describe the gamut of emotions that went through you when you witnessed those two women, what they were doing. >> at that point i felt that the media had been, you know, pushing one narrative. that, you know, black people were out here messing up our own neighborhoods yet again. i understand how the workers of that building, the owners, i understand how they can be hurt by that. and it hurt me. >> reporter: just miles from where gardener marched, volunteers flooded streets tuesday same love for their communities. >> we want to try and go behind these movements, clean up what we can so that the good things remain. >> reporter: scenes like that played out across the country. from minneapolis where george floyd lived, to deer, to kalamazoo, michigan. >> it was just an outpouring of

human experience you don't experience every day. >> reporter: an understanding in the bronx. >> these people cam out and looted and rioted and that's unfortunate and we're here to clean it up. but they are doing this in protest of something horrible that happened. >> reporter: it's that message of empathy in the wake of violence that courtney nicole gardener hopes history will remember. >> this is a protest for black lives. and if you want to protest on our behalf, which we appreciate -- preciate -- >> hey. >> -- please come out here and do it in a way that is representative of what we are wanting and asking for. peace. >> and that is the overnight news for this thursday. for some of you, the news continues. later for "cbs this morning" and, of course, follow us online any time at cbsnews.com. reporting from the nation's capital, i'm major garrett.

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