least four times. >> sometimes we get maybe three or four versus. then people raise their hand if they have a question or want to ex pound on the passage. from that exchange, we believe that what needs to come out needs to be heard is . good morning to you. heard. >> i heard you mention earlier this is mosaic. i'm ron. welcome. it's always a privilege to host you teach the hebrew mosaic on behalf of script which you ares. my cohost elizabeth. some would say why not the there's a passage of scripture gospel, why not paul in the 133 psalms being the primary choice? that says how wonderful and it isfor some say it's so complex, difficult, challenging. >> and it is in some places. brothers to dwell in unity or harmony some translations say. the typical says brothers and sisters. for our purpose of our theme it's important that we today, we're going to stay with brothers. brothers to brothers. understand we who follow i've had the privilege of going jesus christ. he didn't read paul. to this group brothers to brothers a few he didn't read matthew, mark,

times. i will be coming and going luke. he was try to reflect on the back. when i asked them that i'd like them to have a properties and the law. he was trying to say i think representative from mosaic to this is how you've been taught. i want to reveal to you another be on the program. they unanimously recommended way of looking at reginald lyles. thank you for being here. thank you for taking the time this in context of where you to be here this morning. >> yes. are and where you're >> one of the things before we get to brothers to living now. this is not to be a word of brothers, i like my audience to from god that's know your background. share what your experiences inclusion their or exclusive. when we understand that and have been. >> i'm raised in oakland. north oakland. i lived in other places in the then the attributes of christ, the christology of city of oakland. baptist chflen temp christ, we learn how we should live. what was jesus talking about in been t f40 the elijah moment when he was running away from the prophets. >> oka s a chairmanof the deacon. what was that about? do we have the same situation

i'm a believer, a teacher. here? i don't think you can i teach sunday school class. understand new testament 345 to 40 atepid every sunday. scriptures unless you understand what they're that must be interesting. reflecting off of, how they're >> it is. we really try to make the word evolving off of that. they're echoing off what they become alive in our know and have been taught. launching out to a new way of lives and context as our applying to their lives. >> without the roots, you don't understanding. i also teach old test amount. old test amount one and two get the fruits. with the leadership >> exactly . you sound like a rapper. without the roots, you don'the institute founded by smith, sr. i'm a seminary we could understand -- we graduate, san francisco state. >> okay. high school to klan tech. shouldn't call it old testament. we shouunderstand who the i'm married to delores gibson people were. liles mcflower they were african people. we should embrace and burkely. >> she's going to be looking understand that then apply that evolution how the script which you ares evolved at. yes. >> so we live in miren county. i was in law enforcement 30 through time and how we are

years. started with the police department for 20 years and evolving. i don't think god stopped came over as a captain and revealing himself. >> god is still speaking. deputy chief there. >> i like that. i still live up in nevado. >> yes. >> i did not know you had the >> i noticed in two times i've police background in law enforcement. come, each individual was able to speak. you say listen as good some of i was at a gym one day. they said their church would do the skills we a lot of work. developed. i didn't see anyone ng wng. >>th. reginald liles has been the aldon'allow arguments. liaison. he said he's a police we can have an exchange. you can have a person saying i officer. i did not know. that you've got a great this is how i heard and said. reputation for that. >> i always believed in matthewr another person can say i heard this. we don't have direct back and i al nsof forth document of y can keep the peace if debate. >> why is that? people's feelings get hurt. we're not there to trample on you've got enough feeling ifs. we're believing in the renewing power, weapons, authority. a peacemaker has to listen and

of the mind. >> that's excellent. understand all factions and try to navigate >> i've heard often times folks and create a peaceful say i've never it solution where everybody is affirmed ft. kethatconcept. like that before. >> that's fine. as you well know, learning can we know there's beena lot of tension in our communities and our african- american community with be a struggle. it takes courage. police. i'm sure you had to walk the we pray for the presence of the holy spirit and line at times. believe the holy spirit is an >> i'm a fierce critic. i love cops, but in the last 20 entity, an agent that is here with us. to 25 years, they we are guided by it. >> you also pray for others. walked away from their ethical positions. not all of them. there's a percentage there that we wouldn't come back to have walked away another segmentment. we're going to take a break and from derstandg of who and what they come right back. are in our society and community. there by we have mario woods, >> please join us. brothers to brothers. very good. gardener, castillo.

it's just wrong. >> you're speaking from experience not a critic outside. inside makes a difference. they're not happy but the truth is delight. they have to get back to ethics. you don't -- . the truth sets us free. >> mario woods 114 to 120 pounds homeless with a knife. nine officers stopping. they're all shooting. >> we're going to come back to who yoe. to brot. in brothers and some of the work he's doing.

that's san francisco. started as a renegade project. we're commemorating those that had to wear the pink triangle and holocaust. we're going to light it up with 2700 bright pink notes as a beacon of hope. >> how was school? fine. this crisis has changed almost everything, but not our resolve. we've pulled together, worked hard to keep each other safe.

we've flattened the curve and are starting to reopen our communities. as reginald mentioned we can protect the people we love, earlier, there's brothers from all backgrounds that come. one of the persons that come is and help californians get back on their feet. for our families and our communities, let's stay the course and stop the spread. an author. he happens to have the author's book. it would be good to lift him up and tell who he is. >> yes. his name is reverend ronald cole. his robert cole is a dear friend. we met one another in the third welcome back to mosaic. or fourth grade. he's a phenomenal minister of we've been speaking to god and servant of reginald. you heard his great background and experience. god. we both served under thompson, one of the reasons i invited him was to talk the senior pastor. we love her dearly. brothers to brothers. the this is a great book. tell us about brothers to brothers. this has been going on about 20 a great read for men to see how god is used as an plus years. it emanated or started from a

gentleman by the name individual. this is just an uncommon man. of herren loftherb loftton who >> why brothers? why men? why the emphasis? that's one of was trying to bring men and women together, navigating life. it started with two or three the struggling issues of our friends he knew that growth. i've heard folks say we need time when we can be attended church with him. it's grown to now we'll have a alone and to talk and et session every tuesday cetera. i into men night. 65 to 70 men come. they're an eclectic group. and women. they have baptist and a large at this point that's where it is. when we have our restreets and growth of catholic we do every year, we brought in dr. jacquelyn thompson that presented in have a group that's agnostic. front of us and then reverend >> you have a methodist. we have folk who have very lied

dr. pope has also presented. she and dr. thompson did a session together. >> i don't see it as sexist. we had the president junior men have things to address. women have certain groups. that's how i see it. college distribute. we've had presidents of >> you're probably right about that. i think we need to have a time colleges. we've had city council person, former council person, businessmen, developers. >> one thing i found interesting my first time was when we come together. they said two things you don't we'll see what happens. i can take it either way. want mentioned. your tight and will denomination. >> that's right. >> we mentioned earlier in the we have to leave that at the introduction. this says brothers and sisters door. they try to go on first name in harmony and unity. that's the ultimate. >> if the bible was written by basis. they respect everyone. women, it would be a you have to listen. forcing ourselves and sometimes brotis saying. ly hear what you whole lot different. a lot of verses wouldn't be in there. all that kind of language. >> it would be silent in we use the platform of studying script which you church. >> that was horrendous. ares. i was in cemetery and heard a we read the bible from genesis

to revelation and start over again. story about howard how many times have you gone thurman reading the scripture through the bible? i've been there to his grandmother. no normal education. he got to the point it said women should be silent in church. >> also that part about serve and beobedient the lives. some wanted to talk about the context of people's lives. we had a long discussion before we got to the bible study. some said no, we're here for

the text. what's your thoughts on that? i think it would have to be a combination. i don't think literalist study ing the text the text won't serve up. the bible is a history lesson. when it's looked at like that, that allows us to not think we have to act out what the bible is asking us to act. it's almost apart from us, outside of us. d on the truths and the sed to heroes within the bible. now if a hero does something

that's not godly, we're not to replicate because it's in the bible. the text has to be challenged and wrestled with within the confines of where we are living. i don't believe god would come to me and speak to me in the mandarin language. god will speak to me in the language and context of which i unndmee gowoul ntbe . >> this it spoke to the people then and still speaking to us now. that makes it dynamic. >> i think god speaks to folks that speaks mandarin. >> we have one more segment. thank you so much for all you shared. please join us in our last

segment with reginald lyles. we speak about scripture and how important it is to our lives. this crisis has changed almost everything, but not our resolve. we've pulled together, worked hard to keep each other safe. we've flattened the curve and are starting to reopen our communities. we can protect the people we love, and help californians get back on their feet. for our families and our communities, let's stay the course and stop the spread.

we're so grateful for reginald liles. we want to say in the last few minutes, how does that word speak to us in our day and time? we're living in difficult times as you well know.

we have a person in the white house who is mean spirited and causing a lot of pain. the scripture will educate us on folks like that and tell us not to give up hope of faith that god isbles that these better times are on the horizon. what about those that consider the evangelicals who overwhelmingly support the president? i don't know how you can over weaponningly support someone that lies and has the horrible morale lifestyle this one has. i pray for my evangelicals brothers that they would

wake up. they're not supposed to follow that type of leadership. >> i think that's pretty provocative and challenging. i don't sense anyone who comes on my show. i think that i want everyone to hear what you said. i appreciate your thoughts. >> if you're following someone that can separate babies from mothers, something is wrong with your application of jesus christ and his love for his people. >> how would you apply in terms of seeing the scripture in light of that? you quote scripture quiet well. >> first of all, old man, you know what is good. >> do justice, mercy, walk on before your god.

micah is 6'4". he's not doing justice. he's an on the lineoligarch. , money. justice is the foundation of which the house of love is constructed upon. if no justice exists then you can't love a person. that's why i understand the song what's love got to do with it? that was dr. king's also saying. >> yes. i understand why people welcomed or asked you to be the spokesperson of brothers to brothers. thank you reginald. >> thank you, sir. i'm going to see you soon. i'm going to be brothers to brothers too. >> come early and have a meal with us. thank you for being with us. i'm ron. see you next month.

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