captioning sponsored by cbs i'm margaret brennan in washington, on "face the nation," in the midst of dealing with the cruelty of the coronavirus, america mourns the loss of a legend. what's the path forward for the civil rights mutual following the death of georgia congressman john lewis. >> he preached a message of unity and hope during his 33 years in congress. john lewis's fight for justice and equal rights for all lasted 80 years. ended friday. following a-month battle with stage for pancreatic cancer. >> i feel like saying come and walk in our shoes, i will show you change. >> we'll look at the change louis fought for an exam his

legacy with colin powell. plus our cbs colleagues who covered louis's career. as coronavirus continues the deadly summer spread, the simpliest of precipitations escalates. a private white house document urges mandating a masks in 13 states. the cdc said could help drive this epidemic to the ground four to six weeks. president trump feels differently. >> will you consider a national mandate that people need to wear mask >> no, i want people to have a certain freedom. i don't believe in that. no. and i don't agree with the statement that if a everybody wears a mask everything disappears. >> brennan: frustration gross, there are reports that the administration plans to cut testing and tracing aids for federal agencies from a new colona aid bill drafted by republicans on capitol hill. we'll talk with atlanta mayor tisha lance bottoms, former ngo

richard besser and former fda commissioner dr. scott gottlieb then continue our look at the challenges of getting the nation's students back to school with a new head of the university of california system dr. michael drake. it's all just ahead on "face the nation". . >> brennan: good morning, welcome to "face the nation." on a daily basis, states in the sun belt and parts of the west as well as the u.s. overall are breaking records with the numbers of new cases of covid 19. twice last week, the u.s. recorded more than 70,000 new cases a day. getting closer to dr. fauci's prediction we might be headed to 100,000 a day. we will bring you latest on the virus, first bob schieff look backs on congressman louis's

life and legacy. john lewis was a share croppers based on in 1940 in a part of georgia was so segregated he had seen only two white people by his sixth birthday. >> some of these chicken will shake their heads, they never quite said. but i'm convinced that some of those chickens that i preached to in the four times and 50's tended to listen to me much better than some of my colleagues listen to me today in the congress. >> it was in the what john lewis said but what he did that changed americhiars when he heard martin lu k d severely injured as he took part in sit ins at segregated restaurants and freedom riders

who risked their lives by simply sitting in seats reserved for whites on interstate es.>>ree . >> by the time king made his famous speech in washington, lewis had become chairman of the student nonviolent coordinating committee >> we do not went our freedom gradually >> he was the youngest speaker had that day and delivered a powerful speech even though organizers deleted his most controversial line, a line, which they feared would have been president kennedy. the line was whose side is the government on? lewis continued to play a leading role in the movement. but it was happened in selma alabama march 7, 1965, that would leave john john lewis name with large in american history. it was supposed to be a peacefud 5h anrsary thal y, ent el an

bridge, where it all happened. >> we were marching in two's in an orderly peaceful nonviolent fashion. on our way to montgomery, to say to the nation if people wanted to register to vote. i really thought we would be arrested and jailed that day. >> when did you realize when you got to the high point here? that's when you saw all of the law enforcement people down there. >> we saw down below the straight troopers and behind the state troopers were the sheriffs on horseback. we got to the bottom of the bridge. >> turned around and disburse >> andmtods us. using tear gas and tramping us with horse >> you were right in the front

>> i was in the font >> you were among the first hit >> i was the first person to be hit and i still have the scar on my forehead. and i was knocked down. my legs just went out from under me. i thought i was going to die on this bridge. i said to myself, this is the last protest for me >> in a manner of weeks, president johnson sent troops, the march was completed peacefully and in the wake of the violence and hatred that had been laid there in selma, congress passed the voting rights act. elected to congress in 1986, he fought battle after battle when the odds were ove t repuancall john lewis the conscience of the congress. even when he was dying with matter demonstrations erupted. there again was lewis on the

front lines. >> i think in dc and around the nation it's been a mighty, powerful and strong message to the rest of the world. that we would get that. >> he made america a better place. and i never knew a better man. this is bob schieff er. >> that's our bob schieff er. we went to go to mclean virginia and former secretary of state can colin powell. mr. secretary good morning to you. >> good morning. >> john lewis was a civil rights ki top le?ll iartin luther great ma t as nails. i mean, he spend his hole adult life fighting these issues and going after racism son a man with that kind of bavery built into him is an incredible

individual and he was. what we'll always be remembering is what he did for our nation, our people. but he was something lse also. he was a gentle man in many ways. we had this gentleman in two forms, one tough as nails, one gentle. he will always be remembered as the individual who did all he could for america and all he could for african-americans and not only african-americans now, but anybody else who is considered somewhat different in our country. it's one country and one people and helped pull that altogether but we still got a long way to go and i'm sure that's what he would say here today >> that was his message as we showed our viewer this june. battling stage four pancreatic cancer and he risked his own health in the middle of this pandemic, standing in black lives matter plaza the area in front of the white house. do you see the moment and the

movement as the modern incarnation of his work? is there another john lewis figure that needs to emerge? >> i hope one will emerge. there is a need for more john lewises, not just one. but many. we got a lot of work to do. and it's not just a matter of how do we get black lives matter or all lives matter, it's a matter of teaching young people. it's a matter of getting young people educated. most of my life now is spent on education of young people and helping out my fellow citizens who are on the lower economic scale. how do we get them up? we have to move on to new things and not just slogans and we have to make sure we're putting everything we can into the needs of our fellow citizens, whatever they may be, whoever they may be, in order to bring them back into the world, into america. and make sure they have the same opportunity that john lewis wanted all of us to have. >> i wonder what you thinkme we

lewis when he spoke to my colleague gail king before passing said what he sees in the street looked so different, it's much more massive, all inclusive. there will be no turning back. he was hopeful and yes. the momentum that was there, the calls for police reform, those are since stalled. are we at that point in this country where we can't get out of our own way? we are so divided that we can't get to the place john lewis saw? >> no, i don't think we're there, i think we are somewhat divided now but i believe we have to keep moving on. we've come so far in last 50 years. 60 years ago when i entered the united states army, nobody thought i could become chairman of joint chiefs of staff but i did. so a lot has happened, it's a much better nation now. we're living better than we did then. but there's more to be done, more youngsters and adults that have to be educated. fix at the economic system so that every american can have a

quality not only education but opportunity to have a good life and to make money necessary to have that kind of good life. so we have a long way to go, but he put us on the road. he put us on the road and the last thing we want to do is say, it is going to work. we're america, we're americans. and we know how to deal with these issues. we dealt with them on and off the last 50 years we still have a long way to go. and john lewis will be replaced, there will be others coming up. there are many others who want to be part of the reformation. . >> brennan: there's a new consciousness about symbols. the current chairman, mark millie said this week, the us army is about 20% black and he said young soldiers who serve on bases name after a confederate general, quote, can be reminded that that general fought for the institution of slavery that may have enslaved one of their

ancestors. is this, do we need to re name these bases >> true. it's true. i would re name the bases. we hadn't thought about that a few years ago. but now with black lives matter and all the issues that are before us, i think it is a good idea to re name the ten bases in the united states army that are named after confederates. i never really thought about it. i went to fort bending georgia named after a confederate and i did all my training there but it never stuck to me that this name should be changed. so i fully support what john millie is doing. i think it's something we should do quickly as we can. >> the pentagon also decided to list flag that is can be displayed without actually explicitly fanning the confederate flag. should it be more explicit

>> the confederate flag is now an explicit demonstration of another time, place and country that has notng to do with the united states of america, it was confederate states of america, they were not part of us and this is not the time to keep demonstrating who they were and what they were back then. this is time to move on. let's get going. we have one flag and only one flag only and that's the flag we should all support. and all display and all be proud of. . >> brennan: secretary powell all great to have you thank you for having us remember john lewis. . >> brennan: we want to go now, he was indeed. >> we want to go to atlanta where john lewis lived. keisha lance joins us. good morning. >> good morning. >> brennan: you knew john lewis, you were a friend, what do you see as the nexus between his legacy and where social justice

is headed next. >> growing up in atlanta, we have the great privilege of having these giants walk amongst us, for me personally john lewis was more than a historical figure. he's a person you seeed in the grocery store, church, on or about around town. and his legacy really speaks to so much about where we are with this movement and the moment in america. what he instilled in all of us was just courage. and to do the right thing and treat people in a way that would then in turn have dignity and respect upon all of us. and so i grateis ership and let his last public appearance was on the black lives matter plaza because i believe in his own

way, he was leaving with us thi further to go and he's passed on the baton to future generations. i'm grateful fo e. . >> brennan: you in atlanta have been facing some battles with governor as our viewers know. georgia was the first state to reopen from the shutdown due to the pandemic. so the governor said this week, that it was the racial injustice protests that led to the rise of infections that's happening in the state right now. what role did they play? why do you think infections are spiking? >> well, i've actually not seen any data or science that points to that. what i have seen data on when g, ro the coun or at we've seen that track with cell phone data, because we were open for business as if we were not in the midst of a pandemic.

and the governor has done many things as of late and said many things as of late, quite frankly are simply bizarre. he filed 124 plex page lawsuit against me this week calling for an emergency injunction to stop me from speaking about his orders. if the governor of his state had his way, i would not be allowed to speak with you today. until this blame game is most unusual. there were other cities in our states who instituted mask mandates and he did push back. i don't know if perhaps they were led by men or if it's perhaps because of the demographic in the city of atlanta. i don't know what the answers are. but what i do know is that the science is on our side when you look at the reports that the unpublished report from the white house, we're a red zone

state and we are in danger. >> brennan: another arguing man from georgia accused you of auditioning for vice president as part of motivation for your decision to order mask wearing. why do you think these masks have become such a point of division given that it is cdc guidance to wear them? . >> first of all, i'm not auditioning for anything. i have a job that i get up and do each and every day and that is the job as mayor of atlanta. and my responsibility as mayor of atlanta is to make decisions on behalf of the people of atlanta that will protect our citizens. when i look at the unpublished report from the white house that georgia is a red zone state, what that report says is that there are very clear guidelines we should follow, very clear metrics we should folk face coverings are one. two counties in the state, two

on the highest county for infection rates from covid 19. so this is not about politics. this is about people. it's about the dealing with 3100 people died in our state, over 130,000 who have tested positive. i, by the way, along with my husband, and one of my children are amongst the number of people tested positive. this has nothing to do with politics. >> brennan: are police able to enforce this? the governor says you don't have the authority to do it. it's unenforceable. the atlanta police had no data to say that arrests or tickets had happened. why did you have to issue this? soe them? has >>n in same way thy can stop eo for not wearing a seatbelt in our state. and again, i don't think it's a coincidence that the governor sued me personally along with our three counsel personally after i noticed that president trump came to atlanta's

international airport and did not have on a mask. and pointed violating the law. this is about politics. our police officers certainly can enforce this ordinance but at the end of the day. the party that speaks of local control has taken local control and attempting to silence our voices in this state. >> brennan: speaking of local control, there's lot of scrutiny about what's happening right now in portland where federal agents have been deployed and are arresting protesters, local government doesn't want them there. when you see what's happening in portland, do you have any idea what you would do if this happened in atlanta? >> you know, we, as a leader of the city, i have come to anticipate the unexpected. and there's nothing that surprises me as it relates to anything that this white house will do. and so it's as deeply

concerning, it is further inflaming all of the mistrust and distrust that people are in our streets protesting about. but we will respond accordingly. and i feel very safe that the and i feel very safe that the law is on our . >> brennan: thank you mayor bottoms. we'll be right back. but as i reflect and see all the amazing things you've been doing... one thing is clear, technology has never been so important. you're turning living rooms into conference rooms, backyards into school yards, and bringing doctors into homes virtually and securely. e trorbunessels backyards into school yards, we have committed two billion dollars to relieve the pressure on your business. and to help us all emerge from this, we've opened our supercomputers and patented technologies to scientists around the world, accelerating the search for a vaccine. this isn't easy. but as you adapt and move forward,

we're here with the people, financing, and technology, ready to help. there's you been an outpouring of tributes to honor john lewis since his death. michelle miller is joining us from atlanta this morning. michelle, i'm glad to have y wi much of your life. what are your memories and reflections of him. >> i knew him through my father and his dear friends. he was a lover of life. he love laughter, his friends

and family and lillian his wife, an educator, a former peace corp volunteer in africa. when she died in 2012, this woman, who had brought so many of these wonderful occasions into the home, they were best friends with hank aaron and andrew young and their wife's. when she died, so many folks were worried about him. would he be able to continue in the same vein because she was such a support. perhaps a blessing in her dying on new year's eve, 2012 was that it was on the eve of the 50th anniversary of the march on sh e pk up and move forward in order to commemorate that historic occasion. and i recall being there just off stage, as he gave this eloquent speech, and connected the dots between then and now. and expressed this grand gesture to the next generation.

it was a moment where he did rise to that occasion. . >> brennan: i know that you have been out there covering the most recent protests our country has been experiencing, and i'm wondering what you think congressman lewis did to impact and to shape that next generation of activists. >> you know, i think it all dates back to the fact that in his desperation to seek change at the age of 17, martin luther king, junior, after receiving a receiving a letter from him reached back and said come join me. it was an. powering experience for him to be asked to join something that he felt he was one up to task to, but two, that he had been invited into. and so always, he was the man who was speaking to hand the baton to the next generation by placing his hand out and

reaching out to them to come on board. and it was beyond the scope of finding equality and justice for african-americans. it was on gun control. it was in the immigrant community, the native american community. it was the gay rights community. so much of atlanta right now is celebrating the fact that he was such a part of the black jewish coalition here in establishing it and making sure that those ties were strong. so you know, it stems from the fact that he was included at a young age, and passing that baton is so incredible. it was an incredible legacy for g tus "face the nation" will be back in one minute. stay with us. ♪. ♪. nursing home residents are still dying from covid-19-

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♪. ♪ . >> brennan: warm welcome back, the number of deaths in the u.s. due to covid 19 has officially reached yet another tragic benchmark. 140,000. dr. richard besser is president and ceo of robert wood johnson foundation and the former acting director for the cdc. joining us from princeton, new jersey. good morning. >> good morning, margaret, good to be here. . >> brennan: doctor, i'm a you're here. i know you worked in atlanta be knew congressman john lewis, who, as you know, passed away on friday. in reading up on him, it stood out to me that he had spend a

good deal of time on health disparities in the minority community and worked on that issue. i wonder if that's something you collaborated with him on. >> well, you know, we didn't work directly. but i lived in his district and his district included the cdc. and in his entire career focused on civil rights, focused on trying to undo structural racism, it has a direct impact on health. he was active until the very end of his life. and in preparing to come here to speak with you. i found a quote that he has from may in a congressional committee. he said in the wake of this deadly virus, we should admit we've fallen short. helen in equality is once again costing lives on a scale no one can ignore. in order to save lives and write this wrong, we must aake n. d mo importantle

on cess to put ego di deiology aside. hispanics latinos are hospitalized four times. the black community is disproportionately impacted. you're a pediatrician. do you expect these patterns we've seen to be replicated among children when we look at the possibility of them returning to classrooms at least partially in the fall? >> if we are nottentional about it not happening it will happen. if you look at how we fund schools in america most of it is property taxes. wealth communities will be able to make the adjustments to their schools that are necessary for them to be safe places for

children, teachers and staff. that's very expensive, air know, making sure you have enough classrooms so you don't need as many chin in each class and they can socially distance. it means hiring staff who can decontaminate classrooms and disinfect them every night and every morning and in low income communities, schools have been under invested in for generations. without additional resources we will see children of color, black and brown children,di disproportionately affected. >> brennan: you warned that ng politicized in a way that you said is unprecedented. un plays out.effect of you called it willful disregard for public health guidelines leading to a sharp rise in

infections and death. are people within the cdc telling you that they feel their health data is being undermined and politicized? >> what i'm hearing and what i'm seeing are the same thing. and that is that cdc is not out front in their typical traditional leadership role driving the response to this. and we're seeing political considerations continually overtaking those of public health. we have the world's leading public health agency. and they provide direction not just across the federal government but to state and local public health and without them leading this response, without it being driven by science, we'll have what's happening now, which is an out of control pandemic continue for months and months and months to come. . >> brennan: respectfully, the cdc has admitted having made some mistakes, not just, yoknow, ere is a qustion he out

an agency due to these early admitted problems with testing kits, slow to warn the public about the idea that there'sia symptomatic transmission and aerosolé7c3 transmission of thi the mass guidance was very late. what's going on? are they falling short or are you saying they're being muzzled? >> well, i think there's a little of both going on here. i ran emergency pair preparedness and response at cdc four years and led the agency at the start of swine flu pandemic in 2009 of every response to a new public health emergency you'll try things and some won't work. when you're in a daily conversation with the public, you develop trust. explain what you know, what you don't know and what studies you're doing to try and learn, so when you try to something and it doesn't work, you have the opportunity to explain what you learned and what you want to do going forward. the mask issue is a great

example. early on. the cdc was not recommending masks in public, they were recommending them for healthcare providers but increasing studies shows that because so many people can spread this before any symptoms, there was value in the general public wearing masks. but without cdc meeting every day with the media, hear wag the public and the press were concerned about, there was no way to bring the public along on that journey, so it looked like a flip-flop and it didn't lead to people making those changes. i found the questions that tie got from the press every day led us to do a much better job at cdc. . >> brennan: we're talking our own here but we would love to have the cdc director on the program. thank you for your time today. we'll be right back. ♪. ♪. on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. ♪ this smells so good. ♪

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we're just under 1,000 deaths, roughly 75,000 infections per day, last sunday, you said the apex would be at a to three weeks. >> i think the apex in the epidemic states now, the center of the epidemic, which is california, to see, arizona and florida could be two, three weeks away, you're seeing some slowing in the new cases, it's not clear whether or not the ne the testing capacity, arizona seems to be at the upper limit of its testing capacity. challenge is as the states start to peak and i think they will have an extended plateau. i don't think this is sharp up and down, but as they start to peak, you have to be worried about georgia, tennessee, missouri, tennessee, kentucky, we're seeing record numbers of s riing hospitalizations and a shifting of the center of the epidemic potentially in the united states. and it's just is more trouble for the fall and winter, we'll

taking a lot of infections in the fall that will never be able to come down. >> brennan: cdc director said if everyone wore a mask you could get this under control in four to eight weeks. is that wishful think >> i think it might be wishful thinking that everyone will wear a mask. there's a percentage that feels a mask is an infringemen on their liberty. we've been unable to find a reasonable measure that we all agree to take, we could potentiallt this under control and keep it under control. masks are important first step but i don't see enough in the population agreeing to wear masks, if 30% won't wear masks any time, and then you only have maybe 75% compliance amg th because nobody will do everything all the time, that might not be enough mask wearing to really get this fully under control. . >> brennan: testing delays we're still hearing about them. in the first world country,

should you accept testing delays of a week more? >> no. look, we've had plenty of time to get this right. we've had now five months since we first identified a shortcoming in the testing. what we don't have is excess capacity and we can surge into the epidemic cities, when you have epidemics in to see, california and florida and the testing companies company labs not only do they fall behind but pulling testing and see delays there. once testing is delayed more than had 48 hours, it's not useful. we're seeing delays up to six, seven days right now. . >> brennan: that has one back i office, into a school. what do you think is about to happen given what we're seeing with the trend task force infection rates among children? do we know yet how this virus affects young people? >> well, we know that children

are less likely to get infected. when they do, they're less likely to be symptomatic. that seems to be accepted based on the literature. what we're unsure about is what the propensity is to spread the virus particularly when it's symptomatic. they do appear as likely to spread when they develop symptomatic illness, that might be because they shed as much or because of behaviors that a child is more likely introducing into the homes because you'll hug your child even when sick. now, the literature on outcomes in kids is skant. there was a reliable study out of china looked at 2100 kids developed symptomatic illness and 5% severe diseases requiring oxygenation, and 12% very severe >> acute respiratory distress syndrome and shock. that said, children are far less likely to develop symptomatic illness and this just looked at the percentage of children to did develop symptomatic diocese. what is suggested when kids get

sick, they have a propensity to get very sick albeit in a small proportion relative to adults. >> brennan: we've seen syndromes after the virus. given the infection rates going up, does that mean we will soon see kowasaki to be more prevalent >> multi-system inflammatory system is being investigated. it does appear to be a post viral syndrome. similar to kawasaki disease. the one good study that came out estimated that it occurreded about 25 days after the onset of symptoms for kids who were symptomatic but occurred in a lot of kids who had asymptomatic illness. median age was about eight. ree weeks gen hese cases getting reported. that would be about the time we're looking to send kids back to school. so that could cause a lot of

district become weary. when the symptoms first emerged over summer, we were ready to start oped sleep away camps that caused a lot of camps to make the decision to shut down, we have to try to get kids back to school. we need to be mindful we may see a wave of these post viral syndromes when we're trying to do that. we still don't know what the denominator is. we don't know how many kids are infected but appears to be a rare consequence. >> reporter:. >> brennan: you heard the director saying the cdc is being under mind. do you believe that's what's happening >> there's been longstanding frustration by the administration with cdc. some of it founded and some unfounded. final straw i'm told that people in the administration when the cdc told officials they wouldn't be able to provide age break downs in people hospitalized until the end of august and

september. so it's frustrations were i cdc's ability to collect and propagate data. i think they should have worked to try to reform the cdc rather than pull away. but i believe that's primarily what's going on. . >> brennan: we will continue to watch what happens there. and listen to to our health officials, thank you very much, dr. gottlieb for joining us. we'll be back in a moment. ♪. ♪. for the sweaty faces,

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wear a mask. let's all do our part to slow the spread. . >> brennan: the president elect of the university of california school system, dr. drake. he joins us from san francisco. good morning, doctor. >> nice to be here. >> brennan: you're in a transition, having been at ohio state previously. and i read that while you were there, as an administrator, you also taught a course on civil rights. and given the passing of john lewis, i'm curious, what you as a professor taught your student about his legacy. >> thank you, yes, i taught course that began when i was a chancellor at the university of california irvine and moved that to the ohio state university and had a course that i taught with my co teacher was the dean of

law school in both cases and the course was on civil rights, the supreme court and the music of the civil rights era. and we went how to from 1954 to 1968 the milestones in the civil rights movement. and one of the places was the frequency riders in the 60, most those were very young like our students and john lewis was a leader of that movement. we focused specifically on him. i had the opportunity to meet him. he was courageous and inspiring. general powell was on earlier and mentioned congressman lewis humanity, generosity, kindness spirit, how wonderful it was to have a person so kind and thoughtful as an individual, and at the same time, so courageous .nd committed to making this s y

>>an: i'llo to put yourinistratyou're at uc, they e taken high profile steps to attempt to increase diversity in the school system, one of the more controversial ones was the decision to do away with the requirement of sat's or act's tests in the future. despite some arguments within the university that doing so would result in lower grade averages or lower congratulations rates. and i wonder how you think about addressing these concerns that eliminating a standard somehow lowers them. >> well, we're in no way attempting to lower standards at all. we have a variety of things we consider in admissions. i was the admissions charger of admissions for the ucsf medical school ms the past and we use a variety of things to determine the qualifications for students who will be admitted to the university. we're proud that we have so many

students interested in attending, and we have to judge between them. and what we found is that standardized tests provide marginal information, they can help but they don't tell the whole picture. particularly in this time of covid when the opportunity to study and prepare for a test is quite uneven between those students who might be applying for us, we wanted to remove any potential barriers for students that might not have access to all the support they need during this time to prepare for taking the test, and therefore, artificially scored lower than they might. the plan is to retreat from those standardized tests now, and to think about other ways we might gather that information looking forward to the future. it's an ongoing discussion. . >> brennan: you're also a medical doctor. and when yo look at california and the case count, seeming to increase there, would it be helpful to you, as an is administrator to have a national

benchmark setting an infection rate that would help determine whether it's safe for students to go back into the classroom or not? or is it more important to you to have the ability to decide that at the state level or on your own. >> there's several things. it's important at the local level, but although we're a state university, we're an international university, so we have students and faculty coming from all over the world, particularly students coming from all over the country and world. so what happens in the world happens at the university of california. and vice-versa. we have nearly 300,000 students, most important for all of us i think in this phase is to wear masks. i think there's nothing more -- that's most important thing we can do today to try to get back to something that looks like normal as quickly as possible. our scientists and scientists around the world are working on developing better treatments, working on developing a vaccine, those things are months months away at least.

today, to help stem the spread of this virus. the most important thing for us to do is to wear masks. to protect others and ourselves. we see that when mask wearing is done by a large for a second shun of the population, infection rate is held down. and when that's not done the infection rate goes up and i think that you get to choose and we need to make ourselves safe and do all the things, wear masks socially, physically distant use hand washing of those are the most important thing to do in the short run today to help us have the future get back to normal as soon as it can. . >> brennan: thank you, doctor for your insight and advice, we'll be right back. ♪. ♪.

. since we began, we thought it would be fitting to end with a former "face the nation" mod rater john dickerson. >> john lewis wore a backpack on bloody sunday, oothbrush and two books he expected to be reading in jail. instead he spent it in the hospital, skull fractured from the police beating. he would carry the scars of that beating rest of his life and carry out the rest of his life between those two books that he carried. one book was the american

political tradition, a rephrase sal of the country's history. the other was te y mountain, thomas mort's journey as a cath monk. it drew lewis to martin luther king nonviolent message which they would use to challenge the american tradition. how does a young man find the courage to sit before open hatred at lunch counters? and stand before police lines protected only by an idea? pope that month he wrote, by hope, the abstract and in personal become intimate conviction, what i believe in faith i possess and make my own by hope. that was john lewis's hope, not has that talk hope, but a durable tempered saving conviction that a belief in love co hmausuit of equality ll win in thed. in the face of a billy club,

hope is walking d but lovi that seg a replica at one of the lunch counters where he started his protesting career. where is that message now >> it's still imbedded in even of us. i think we have to each at all of our children and those of us not so young that the way of love is a better way. just respect the dignity and the words of every human being. we need to get it out there. if we get it right -- i believe if we get it right, maybe considered the model for the rest of the world >> it's hard to hold on to hope. but doing so is wha so duraeople likejo lurchased i suffering and sacrifice. he believed america was worth

the hope and the pain. lewis's hope also filled him with erie irrepressible happiness. he was still living by a hope in equality at the end of his life. a life that is a monument to hope. belief in it and the power of it. john lewis stood up by sitting down. they tried to deny his march but reached destination. now that his journey is over his history is testimony to the power of hope that speaks to all of us. the political book in that backpack starts with a quote from the writer, in times of change and danger, when there is a quick fear a sense of continuity with generations gone before can stretch like a life line across the scary present. john lewis was that life line. he still is. . >> brennan: that will be it for us today. thank you for watching.

we want to apologize for a report earlier that said john lewis was born in georgia. he was born in alabama. until next week, for "face the nation," i am margaret brennan. ♪. ♪. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

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