♪ >> brennan: schools are beginning to reopen around the country, and despite efforts to socially distance students, states returning to the classroom are already reporting coronavirus cases. cbs news correspondent adrianna diaz is in chicago, where earlier this week, that city's mayor said in-person learning is two risky for public schools. >> reporter: for schools reopening tomorrow, the routine morning drop off will be masked by something new. >> you have to find the right one to breathe right. >> reporter: face coverings are required in enterprise, alabama, and they will be mandatory in new york city schools, which got the approval to split the school week between in-person and

online classes. it is one of 10 largest school districts offering some in-person instruction. all others are st onlinepers full-time, mostly in the south. the patchwork of plans nationwide is spurring debate and division. >> we want schools trom. >> reporter: elcart, indiana, scrapped its learning plan hours after parents protested. with schools starting online instead of of a hybrid plan. this chicago mom worries her 6-year-old daughter, hazel, will have too much screen time and too little socialization. >> i know if she goes to virtual learning full-time, it is going to be damaging to her forever. i just don't want to do that. and it is -- it's sad. >> reporter: nationwide, parents are somewhat split. in one poll, 44% surveyed say it is safe to send children back to school. but 56% do not.

it is skewed among teachers. 82% are concerned about in-school instruction. remember this photo of a crowded hallway and few masks at a georgia high school, well, six students and three staff members have tested positive. in mississippi, more than 100 students are under quarantine in one district. at another, a teacher and assistant football coach died last thursday. 42-year-old nicoma james was self-quaranting when school started, but he haspent . back here in chicago, there are concerns that remote learning will exacerbate inequalities. the city has announced plans to bridge technology gaps and suppo par who nechild carnnan: ank u we want

connecticut, and governor ned lamont. >> good morning, margaret. >> brennan: you decided in june you wanted schools to reopen for in-person learning. and dr. fauci visited the state and said the state should reopen. i'm wondering what your plan is to keep schools open? how do you contain asymptomatic spread and are you regularly testing teachers? >> governor: first of all, we are one of the first states in the country to close down schools. and we've been very cautious as we reopen the rest of our economy. dr. fauci has been helpful. scott gottlieb, your next guest, very helpful. we kept a very low infection rate, about 1%, one of the lowest in the seven eks no the last six, i think if connecticut cat pene i don't know who can around the country. we're doing it led by public health, making sure everybody is wearing the mask and making sure we have the plex god bless

yoplecsplexiglass wereneeded. >> brennan: what about prioritizing testing. how do you stay open without regularly spot-testing students and teachers? >> governor: well, what testing does tells you whether or not -- as you pointed out in the previous shot, many people are asymptomatic and contagious before they're tested, so we have to watch out for that. we have 160 testing centers. ateacher thaany teacher that wao can get a free test. >> brennan: so it is not currently part of the plan, but you're saying that the state has access to tests. i want to ask you about something your office pointed out to us, 143,000 kids simply did not log on for remote learning back in the spring, in march, april, and may. do you know how much

damage was done? and if you have to shut down and go remote again, how do you avoid these kids getting lost? >> governor: i think -- i do not want a lost year. when everybody says let's not go back to school until it is perfectly safe, until we have a vaccine, until 100% of the people are vaccinated, i worry that could be a lost year of education. but in the meantime, we need a backup plan. we bought 100,000 chrome books, and the teachers home, if they don't feel comfortable going back, expanded wi-fi so they can connect over zoom. >> brennan: but what about the kids who just didn't log on in the spring? >> governor: it is a tragedy. we made it available to everybody we could. again, it requires parental supervision, requires a lot of effort to make sure everybody logs in. right now we're going to

have a telephone backup, and better coordination for parents, but it is by no means perfect. >> brennan: the president, as you know, announced these executive actions yesterday after congress didn't come to an agreement. his announcement calls for states to provide $100 a week for every unemployed person in their state, on top of what he says they're going to redirect from fema to make up for the expired federal boost. does connecticut have that funding to kick in? >> governor: look, that would cost us about $500 million between now and the end of the year. i could take that money from testing. i don't think that's a great idea. i could take that money from masks and disinfecting for our schools. i don't think that is a grea in fact, i think the president's plan is not a great idea. >> brennan: well, what would it take you -- how long would it take you to get that up and running? what would happen to the

unemployed people in your state who just saw $600 a week disappear? >> we're continuing to provide them the state unemployment compensation, which is $400, $450 . we're talking about the extra $600 that the federal government put on until we got our economy going. our economy in connecticut is going much better than other places, but there are still tens of thousands who can't get employed, in bars and restaurants. there has to be some sort of a cushion. >> brennan: connecticut has been hit hard, and i tropical storm.du tthi has covid slowed down the response to this storm? when are the lights going back on? >> governor: i'd say we were hit hard by the

tropical storm. and we lost almost half our power across the state. and then you realize that means water treatment centers in nursing homes and a whole variety of real emergencies that have to be put out. in the meantime, we're bringing in thousands of contractors from around the region and around the country. and you're right, in the middle of a covid pandemic, hey, i've got a quarantine from people on south carolina, please come up and fix our wires. but we're getting people tested and fixing the wires. we've got to get electricity back on. >> brennan: so covid has slowed down the response. i want to make sure i totally understood what you said there on unemployment. is the bottom line for people in connecticut, they just won't get any additional money on top of their regular state unemployment payments? >> governor: margaret, i wouldn't say covid slowed down our response on the electric hit at all. >> brennan: well, you

just mentioned having to quarantine crews -- >> governor: no, we're not quarantining them. they're essential workers. we're getting them back up on the polls as fast as we can. what was your other question? >> brennan: i was buttoning up what you seed on unemployment. you said that the president's plan is not a good one. are you telling people they wouldn't get any additional money on top of what is already being provided? >> they're certainly going to get additional support from the state of connecticut. i would like to see the federal government step up, extend the unemployment a little longer, let people get on their feet. what i'm doing here at the state level, in particular is rent relief. i have tens of thousands of people who fear eviction. we have an evictrum. moratorium. >> brennan: all right. governor lamont, good luck

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>> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation." we go to former.a. gottlieb. good morning to you. >> doctor: good morning. >> brennan: you've been dealing with power outages in connecticut as well, so i thank you for coming on today. i want to ask you this overall number. it seems stunning, five million coronavirus cases in the united states. two and a half weeks ago, you predicted that by the end of the year we could be at 300,000 deaths. is that still where you think we are headed? >> doctor: well, we're definitely going to be somewhere between 200,000 or 300,000, and whether we're closer to 200,000 or 300,000 depends on what we do. we'vhad t waves of this epidemic, the new york wave and now the wave through the sunbelt, and texas is showing signs of an uptake in the last week and that needs to be followed closely. we're probably going to have another wave. the concern is this has

become so pervasive across the country, it could start to affect rural communities that largely have been untouched to date, and probably are a little more complacent because they're untouched but are still very vulnerable. if it becomes more eviv evasive across the country, it will be far more difficult to control. and we're seeing indications of that right now, the way it is spreading in the midwest and the west. >> brennan: when does someone who has covid stop being a risk to others? >> doctor: well, the data shows 10 days after the onset of symptoms you're no longer shedding virus that can cause someone else to become infected. you'll continue to shed virus for a persistent period of time, but when the virus is cultured, it hasn't grown. right now the recommendys mptoms, have sere illness, you're no

contagious. previously we more recent data is 10 days. >> brennan: we still have that question, what if you don't know. some 40% of cases are asymptomatic, you don't really necessarily know who is carrying the virus. so you talked about the need to increase testing and to improve it. should there be a requirement that teachers get tested before they go into a classroom, that anyone going back to the office full-time get a test? >> doctor: well, look, ideallied we would have ideally we would have that. the campuses are implementing white spread testing. they're testing students two tor three days a week. we don't have the resources or capabilities in most districts to do that. that really is the bottleneck. we need to implement more low-cost tests, tests that can be done at the point of care or at the point of school or work.

there is going to be a saliva test hopefully coming on the market, in the next week -- but right nout we don'now we don't have te testing we would like. if you're asymptomatic you are less likely to spread the virus, about 50 particulars less likely to spread the virus. you're probably the most contagious right before you develop the symptoms. and people don't know they're sick because they may be a day away from developing symptoms, and they go into a confined space and it leao these situations where one case can lead to 30 cases. after you've had symptoms for a number of days, you're ability to spread the virus probably declines. >> brennan: when it comes to schools, we've seen these troubling reports this week of a few children who have died after testing positive for covid. you said time and again, children are not immune. s jusat

the impact of the virus is on them. what more do we know at this point? the president keeps saying they're immune, and we know that is false, correct? >> doctor: we need to have a degree of humility. children are not immune to this virus. the c.d.c. recently documented 570 cases of the inflammatory system in children. we've seen 86 kids who have died from this and thousands who have been hospitalized. so this is a risk in children. we haven't fully characterized that risk. there is data in the last few weeks that is showing that the virus is having impact on the hearts of adult patients, and previously we didn't really understand that or know that. we're learning a lot about this novel virus all of the time. we need to try to protect children. so if we do reopen schools, and i believe we should, we need to do it

with caution. we have seen some countries successfully do it, germany, the netherlands, denmark, have successfully reopened schools, albeit with a lot of measures, and sweden left their schools open. on the other hand, israel reopened schools and they've seen large outbreaks. and so we need to learn what went right and what went wrong as we step forward and try to reopen the schools this fall. >> brennan: this week the state department warned that russia is spreading disinformation about covid, specifically vaccines. how should we understand this in terms of ou vulnerable or country is? i think our country is vulnerable to this pathogen because we have federal risks, owing from our culture. it is going to be very

important to impugn confidence when we have the vaccine. i think we're vulnerable to that kind of information. the other thing to think about is this posed an asymptomatic risk. other countries can conclude that a respiratory pathogen causes a greater danger to the united states than perhaps another nations that have been coping with it more successfully. by everything we know, this was naturally occurring. but it was always known that a nation would never release a pathogen that could blow back on them. and that thinking has to be -- it has to be thought about again. >> brennan: thank youscgottli.l

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and the hidden smiles. the foggy glasses... and the muffled laughs. a simple piece of fabric makes a big statement: i care. wear a mask. let's all do our part to slow the spread. >> brennan: joining us now is the president's c.e.o. of the federal reserve bank of chicago, charles evans. good morning to you. >> good morning, margaret. >> brennan: it looks like talks have completely stalled on capitol hill. there is no emergency aido american people. what is the impact of this

failure on the economy? >> well, i think that's a very important and unfortunate development. i would say the fiscal policy has been unbelievably important in supporting the economy during the downturn that we've been experiencing. the economy closed down in march and april, and fiscal policy swung into action very quickly with the cares act. it could ensure people could stay at home, be safe, pay their rent, increase food security. and now that continues to be important because we've not gotten control officer over the virus spread. i think public confidence is very important and another package is incredibly important. >> brennan: and you said it is not the job of the federal bankers, it is up to fiscal policy, the lawmakers. even the questions around the legallogical and practicallogical of it,

do it mean there will be cutbacks in the middle of a recession, and what does that mean for increases in job losses. >> if you look at the economic outlook, there are some negative scenarios. and the once that most pessimistic involve not supporting state and local governments. i think you heard the connecticut governor say if he has to put 25%, it going to cut back on other things. states have to balance their budgets. they're experiencing reduced tax revenues, and so there will be employment reductions. state and local governments account for 10% of employment in the united states, so that is really another leg down, i think. paycheck protection has been very useful. extending that to small businesses also will beul. in chicago, we've had some panels, and we talked to people in neighborhoods, minority neighborhoods, and according to stacey young, the preservation project, she has indicated

that unemployment insurance has reay helped low income workers pay their rent. they've been able to, in those neighborhoods -- small businesses are landlords, and so that keeps the money in the neighborhoods and provides better food security. as scott got go gottlieb just mentioned, it spills over to other areas that are also hard hit. it is widespread support and can be very beneficial. >> brennan: the official unemployment rate is at 10%. what do you think the actual is and where do you think it is headed given what you just laid out? >> undoubtedly, it is somewhat higher. it doesn't capture all of the people who would really like to work. i think it also -- there is a huge amount of inequality experienced. black unemployment is over 14%, and hispanic unemployment is over 12%, and white unemployment is

9%. i think providing more support, the fed has been providing accommodation. i think if we got the kind of support we needed as quickly as possible, got control of the virus, perhaps all of the people who were sent home to stay safe could be brought back by their previous employers. we're down 12.9 million jobs since february. if most of those could go back, we could enjoy low unemployment. >> brennan: the that point, your colleague in minneapolis was on this program last week, and he called for a month or six-week shutdown to get the kind of contact tracing in place. do you agree that is what is needed? >> i think a very strong program like that would have the opportunity to get on top of the virus. but it would come at quite a lot of hardship for small businesses. it would require tremendous fiscal support. if the national u.s. government were willing to do that, i think we could

knock down the virus spread the way that scott gottlieb and others said is so essential. what we need is public confidence so people feel good about going back to work, they feel safe, they can go out to retail establishments an enjoy leisure hospitality. i'm not optimistic that would be actually adopted, so i think that resources for testing, tracing, isolating people, trying to get control of the virus so that we can get it down and then go back to enjoy the type of activities that they're experiencing in germany and asia. >> brennan: thank you, very much, mr. evans, for laying out for us what you're seeing out there. we'll be right back.

>> brennan: before we leave you today, we want to take a moment to remember the life of a trailblazer in journalism, and a member of our "face the nation" family. mary hager passed away on tuesday. she was one of the first female reporters at the palo alto times, and later worked here in washington, covering science, medicine, the environment, and space. her daughter and our executive producer says her mother was both the smartest and the kindest person she had ever known. and she will be dearly missed. that's it for us today. thank you all for

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