captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington and this week on "face the nation," as the west coast struggles to beat back devastating fires in a covid, complicated world, nal phase of campaign 2020. saturday in las vegas, it was the voters who were up and running to see president trump in person. mostly maskless and not doing much social distancing. >> president trump: my people go out and vote. there is no suppression. e pace, but most votersi presic already know who they're voting for, and the only question is how. >> president trump:

people are getting ballots, they're sending them to ballots. everybody is getting ballots, probably everybody but republicans are going to get the ballots, right. >> brennan: we'll talk with sue gard about election security. what impact will the president's handling the of pandemic have in key states. and bob woodward's tape. goes tough air, bob.tohan the touch. it is also more deadly than even your strenuous flus. this is deadly stuff. we have it very much under control. you treat this like a flu. stay calm. it will go away. >> he knew how deadly it was. it was much more deadly than the flu. he knew and purposely played it down. and worse, he lied to the american people. >> brennan: we'll get an update on the fires from

oregon governor kat potential ms fatality incident as they search for survivors. plus in our continuing coverage of the impact of covid, we'll spaining with thspeak withthe head of pfizer. and we'll hear from former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb, and the c.e.o. of united airlines about the future of the airlines industry. it is all ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> brennan: there are 62

large fires burning in california, oregon, and washington state. more than five million acres have burned. thousands of homes have been destroyed, and once again, the hardest hit are the underserved communities. we begin this morning with oregon's governor kate brown joining us from her home in salem. good morning to you, governor. >> governor: good morning. thank you so much for having me. >> brennan: we have seen reports that at least 10 people have died, dozens are missing. state officials are warning of a potential mass fatality event. wen will you have these fires under control? >> governor: well, the good news is that the weather has stabilized. just to give your viewers a perspective of what is happening on the ground, about every year, for the last 10 years, we burn ear, this week he burned over a million acres of beautiful oregon. we have fires on the coast.

we've got fires in communities right butting our metropolitan areas, and southern oregon thas been devastated. we've had over 40,000 oregonians who have had to evacuate, and a half million who are on some level of evacuation statu status. the good news is the weather is stabilizing, and it gives our hard-working firefighters the opportunity to go out and be proactive and build fire lines. >> brennan: do you have clarity on how the fires started? >> governor: no. but that will be investigated over the days and weeks ahead. but i have to tell you, we saw the perfect firestorm. we saw incredible winds. we saw very cold and hot temperatures. and, of course, we have a landscape that has seen 30 years of drought. this is truly the bell weather for climate change

on the west coast. this is a wake-up call for all of us, that we have got to do everything in our power to tackle climate change. >> brennan: governor, i understand that is your conviction. i know a former oregon law make has written an op-ed in the "washington post," saying you can't blame climate change, and instead it is a failure of your state to prepare and warnings were issued regarding the forests. what is your response to that? >> governor: i stood up at a fire council two and a half years ago, and folks came together to tackle the issues. the council had an extensive report and called for extensive investments in our communities, harvesting and thinning. unfortunately, the republicans walked away from the legislative session and we were unable to get that done. but i would say this: it is both. eed to do botnd wete

n.rennanwe now kw because along the west coast, that oregon has the worst air quality in the world. how are you keeping residents and your firefighters safe from this health threat and covid at the same time? >> governor: so we stood up our covid modules early on. we were obviously aware that this could be a challenging fire season. and our oregon health authority, our department of forestry and our state fire marshal office came together early to develop these covid modules. we've had thousands of firefighters helping to fight fire in oregon the past several weeks. the good news is so far we've seen no incidents of covid. they've had to basically recreate our entire

firefighting systems, and they've done a phenomenal job, and doing that while working extremely hard, taking heroic efforts to save the lives of oregonians across the state. >> brennan: you've had thousands of people having to evacuate, some potentially left homeless. your state is one of those automatically sending ballots to voters at their home address. how is this going to affect voting in the upcoming elections? >> i have to say i was at the state fairgrounds yesterday, and i met red cross volunteers, one of them, brandy, and she had to evacuate her family before she could come to work for the red cross. i met a couple who has also been evacuated, and they were paying it forward. they were helping their fellow oregonians by serving food and volunteering at the state fairgrounds. so oregonians have done a phenomenal job helping out, stepping up for each other like we always do. >> brennan: in terms of

voting -- go ahead. >> governor: in terms of voting, we were the first state in the country to be vote by mail. we have systems in place. i'm confident our secretary of state is working hard, as we speak, to make sure that every eligible oregonian gets a ballot. and we'll make sure they have the opportunity to participate in this election. in oregon, we believe that your vote is your voice. and every single voice matters. >> brennan: and in person, if needed, to be clear? >> governor: absolutely. we continue to allow folks to vote in person, if needed. >> brennan: governor, thank you very much for your time. and good luck to you. we know that americans on the west coa a fighting two unprecedented events at the same time: the worst ever fire season and this global pandemic. mark strassmann reports. >> reporter: outside pacific northwest fire zone, it is the double whammy. evacuees fleeing flames escape one evolving crisis

only to drop into another. the on-going covid threat.als, t masks, get screened first. but people wonder who here has the virus. >> our goal is to get everybody housed into non congregate shelters, meaning hotels. >> reporter: every day wildfires burn more areas into a page from fiction. covid compounds the fight to hold off the flames, and fires compound the fight to hold off the virus. >> i feel it a little in my throat now, even with my mask. it is the worst. >> reporter: firefighters on frontlines spread out even more. homeowners become hold-outs. research shows air pollution generated by wildfires may make the virus especially deadly. most of covid american shows improving two-week trends. cases down by about 20%. note worth because of the wildfires.

in california and oregon, positivity rates have been improving. but another warning this week: expect our covid crisis to continue, even deep into next year. >> we need to hunker down and get through this fall and winter. >> reporter: getting harder by the week, financial challenges for millions of americans. in one survey, one-third of small businesses will have to cut wages or payrolls by the end of the month if there is no federal aid. in another, a majority of black and latino americans report serious financial problems in new york city, los angeles, houston, and chicago. americans hunger for distractions. >> he is playing with a lot of pace. >> reporter: and football is back. college teams competedyesterda y games were canceled. it is week one in the nfl. 13 games today. but only jacksonville will let in any fans. every seat was sanitized.

17,000 fans will be allowed in, 20% of the stadium's capacity. here in atlanta, the falcons play the seattle seahawks. inside the stadium, all the seats will be empty today and at least through the end of september. so much of american life is like an nfl team before kickoff, have a game plan but know how to adjust quickly. margaret? >> brennan: thank you. one of the companies hard at work on developing a vaccine for covid-19 is pfizer, and c.e.o. albert bourla joins us from west chester, new york. good morning to you >> good morning, margaret. >> brennan: do you still expect to know by next month if your vaccine is affective? >> yes. in our base case, we have quite a good sense, more than 60%, that we will know if the product works or not by the end of october. of course, it doesn't mean

it works, but we will know if it works. >> brennan: and then the time clock starts on government approval. i want to ask you about the announcement from pfizer yesterday, which was that you're going to expand your vaccine trial to increase divers satellite. you're going to go from 30,000 people up to 44,000. what do you mean by diversity and what does it do for you? >> yes. there are volunteers from all over the country that raise their hands to participate. so we are almost done with 30,000 people. now we feel quite comfortable with the safety of the product. so we want to expand to the more vulnerable populations. for example, we go to younger people. right now the study recruits from 18 to 85, and now we'll go to 16 years old and people with special conditions, chronic conditions, likeh.i. pnt but,ls t use it to increase the diversity of the population. >> brennan: and by

diversity, i know in your current study about a quarter of the participants are racial minorities. we know when it comes to the infections from coviitand brown america that is disproportionately being hit. is it hard to recruit racial minorities for your test? and should there be more in this next phase? if you're going from a quarter, what is your goal for the percentage this time? >> i think we should strive to have as more diverse population as possible. right now we are not bad, actually. we have a population, but globally only 60% of caucasians, and 40% are minorities. and we try to increase it, particularly for african-americans and latinos. >> brennan: those specific racial minorities are who you are targeting. why is it hard to recruit them in the first place? >> i think it is not more

hard than the other people, but it is also the focus of our vaccine's places where there is a lot of disease right now. and that reflects, i think, also the diversity of the population. where our clinical sites are. >> brennan: pfizer and a handful of the other pharma companies came out with a letter pledging not to cut corners on safety. a number of scientists atthhegee that will have to say whether your vaccine is safe, also came out with a public letter pledging the same. can you say to our viewers though, very clearly here, on the science and on the protocols, that they're going to have to wait until 2021 to get that shot in the arm? >> i don't know exactly if they have to wait until 2021, because our status -- we will know if the product works by the

end of october. and then it is the regulators' job if it is licensed or not -- >> brennan: but you think you could get the f.d.a. to approve it as safe and distribute across to americans before the end of the year? >> i cannot say what the f.d.a. will do. but i think it is a likely scenario and we are preparing for it. we started, for example, already manufacturing it, hundreds of thousands of doses, so just in case we have a good study, conclusive, and the f.d.a. plus t advisory committee feels comfortable, we will be ready. >> brennan: there are six u.s. pharmaceutical companies that have taken money from u.s. taxpayers as part of this investment to jump-start a vaccine. your company chose not to take that taxpayer money, which means if you fail, that comes at a loss to pfizer and your own

pocketbook. so why do you think that is worth the risk? how much faster do things work? >> you're right, if it fails, it goes to our pocket and at the end of the day, it is only money. that will not break a company, although it is going to be painful because we're investing $1.000000000 in covid. the reason why i did it is because i wanted to liberate our scientists from bureaucracy. when you get money from someone, it always comes with strings. i didn't want to have any of them. basically i gave them an open-checkbook so they can work only about scientific challenges and not anything else. and, also, i wanted to keep pfizer out of politics, by the way. >> brennan: well, out of politics -- that's interesting beca people being concerned of political influence to try to expedite a vaccine.

i know you're saying you won't cut corners to do that. but backing up to the question of when this is available to american people, what do you think is the best way to distribute it to the american people? should te government be doing that? >> if you are speaking about who should get it or not -- >> brennan: not just who, but how. >> the how i think is going to be very difficult for the government do do to do it. likely they will collaborate with us, because it is complex. but we know how to do it very well. i think it will be a collaboration between thegoaccot and with us. as to who will get the vaccine, i think it is something that the country should decide. >> brennan: doctor, good luck to your scientists. thank you for your time

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>> brennan: we're back with former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb, he is a fellow at a.e.i., and he also sits on the board of pfizer. good morning to you. >> doctor: good morning. >> brennan: you have consistently said on this program that american people shouldn't expect to get that shot in the arm until 2021. dr. bourla seems pretty optimistic and said it is not impossible to get it before that time. what is a realistic timeline? >> doctor: well, he was speaking to when pfizer is likely to have data. they've done internal modeling when they could have results in this clinical trial. and it is an event-based trial, and they have to wait until people develop covid disease to get a readout from the trial, and if the vaccine is preventing people from getting signs and symptoms

of covid. it will not be like a traditional approval of a vaccine, where it is a binary event. what it is likely to be is offered under an emergency-use authorization to a very narrow population. perhaps frontline workers and people among a certain age. and after the f.d.a. gets more experience with the vaccine, and after the original data from the clinical trials continues to mature, the f.d.a. will slowly walk down that approval, meaning let it be available to large groups of people while they collect evidence in the market. i think that's what people should expect. but for most people, they will not have access to a vaccine until 2021. probably the first half of 2021, and that's assume together the vaccine demonstrate to be safe and affective. i think the people who will get it this year are people in a select

population, people at high risk of getting the virus or having a bad outcome ton the president said they may have an vaccine before the emergency-use situation and a small percentage of the population. >> doctor: we're not going to use it like we use a traditional vaccine, where you broadly vaccinate a population. what we're going to be doing is targeting the vaccine to select groups of people who are at very high risk or a bad outcome from covid. at least in 2020. perhaps in 2021, and i think it is likely if the f.d.a. is able to get top-line data from the trial that the doctor wastalkg d of theoberit is going to take them a number of weeks to turn around an initial authorization. they're going to bring

that before an advisory committee. this isn't something you turn around in a couple of days. i think, hopefully, we'll see some availability in 2020. i'm optimistic we will if these trials are successful. but it will be very limited availability. >> brennan: and you need people willing to take it. kaiser had a study saying 60% worry that political pressure from the administration will cause the government to rush approval before it is actually safe. why do you think the public is losing faith in these institutions, and does the problem go away after electric day? >> doctor: i think perhaps some of it goes away after election day. there is a lot of anticipation around the election, and i think that deadline is going to come and go. i don't think we'll see an authorization before the election. hopefully everyone takes a deep breath after the election. i think these things have been talked about in a political context, and that's atypical for the approval process for any

product. it is not extraordinary, we've seen it before, but it is atypical. and especially with a vaccine that people want to be confident with. you want to keep the politics and the science separator. >> brennan: 'e a quick break and come back with more from dr. scott gottlieb in our next half hour. so please stay with us. ♪ come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change.

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understand the american public. and he said, well, i don't want to create a panic. we know from history, when the public is told the truth, they organize. we have a problem, we're going to step up. and trump thought, oh, well, they'll panic when there is a crisis, when the president, particularly, knows something, it is time to tell the public in some form. he failed. >> you write in the book that the president's handling of the virus reflects his instincts, habits, and style. what are those? >> denial, making up his own facts. >> brennan: that's tonight on 60 minutes, 7:00 p.m. eastern and.

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