4822 email: marketing@vitac.com ] ♪ good morning to you, our viewers in the west. and welcome to "cbs this morning." it's hump day, wednesday, september 30th, 2020. i'm gayle king with anthony mason and tony dokoupil. debate night chaos. >> he doesn't know how to do that. >> i already fixed it. >> he doesn't have a plan. >> candidates hurl insults at each other and ignore the moderator. plus a fact check of the candidates' statements. parents under pressure and alarming uptick in covid cases could force the largest school district in the nation to close. and downplaying the risk of

coronavirus to children. 80,000 people have be forced to flee from the wildfires in california's wine country. see the desperate efforts to save communities. big move in the breonna taylor case. we may be hours away from hearing recordings from the secret fwrand jury deliberations on what happened the night taylor was killed by police. >> people still want answers in that case. first here is today's eye opener much it's your world, 90 seconds. >> i'm not going to answer the question. >> why won't you answer that question? >> because the question is -- >> a lot of people radical left. >> will you shut up, man? >> a night of chaos and interruption. >> i found it, at times, painful to watch and very difficult to watch. >> you're the worst president america has ever had. come on. >> joe, you graduated either the lowest or almost the lowest in your class. don't ever use the word smart with me. >> you have the final word. >> it's hard to get any word in with this clown. >> we woke up in the middle of the night and there were flames.

>> evacuations continue in parts of california. >> meanwhile, people have died. >> adhere to those warnings. adhere to the orders. >> new york city now facing its highest coronavirus positivity rate since june. >> governor cuomo says he will shut city schools down if conditions become unsafe. >> i'm not going to allow them to operate. >> covid outbreak for the tennessee titans. >> team facilities for the titans and minnesota vikings are now closed. >> all that -- >> and the marriage proposal going viral. >> all that matters. >> honestly, we take this show earlier in the day so we don't know what happened yet. if you had to guess? >> a hot mess inside a dumpster fire, inside a train wreck. >> that was a [ bleep ]. show. >> on "cbs this morning." >> tonight some of the best minds of our generation destroyed by madness, hysterical, naked, dragging

themselves through the streets at dawn looking for the mute button. forget fact checking, we couldn't even do any sentence finding. i am so looking forward to the vice presidential debate. i mean, for pete sake, children watched that. >> this morning's eye opener is present bid progressive, making it ease toy bundle insurance. welcome to "cbs this morning." i actually thought about that. the kids are watching. so many parents say, i don't even know how to explain this to my children, what we saw on tv. >> i kept thinking that have green day song "wake me up when september is over." >> yes. it was a long night. that's where we'll begin, with that exhausting and chaotic first debate last night between president trump and joe biden. for much of the night, biden could barely finish a thought. the president interrupted him at least 73 times. at one point, the former vice president told mr. trump to, quote, shut up. the heated conversation gave candidates little opportunity to

debate the policies. >> cbs news poll show more viewers believe biden won the debate, 48 to 41%. 69% of those polled said they found the event annoying. ed o'keefe was there. he joins us now from cleveland. ed, good morning. >> reporter: anthony, good morning. 17% of people in that poll said they found the debate informative. trump campaign aides tell me this morning they think the president had strong command of the stage. biden, they say, he offered strong ideas. remember, cleveland is the home of rock 'n' roll, but nothing about last night is worthy of the hall of fame. it took less than ten minutes for the highly anticipated debate to turn ugly. >> donald, would you just be quiet? >> you don't know -- >> reporter: and stayed chaotic throughout the night. >> the question is, quet is -- >> radical left. >> will you shut up, man? who is on your list, joe? >> reporter: president trump

ta tangled not only with joe biden but moderator chris wallace, who pressed him to denounce white supremacist. >> who would you like me to condemn? proud boys, stand back, stand by. i'll tell you what, somebody has to do something about antifa and the left. >> reporter: members of the group were clearly listening, quickly added mr. trump's words to their logo. they swapped insults all night. >> you're the worst president america has ever had. >> i've done more in 47 months than you've done in 47 years, joe. >> reporter: the presidnt repeatedly referenced hunter biden, whose work in china and ukraine during the years his father served as vice president drew criticism from republicans, but an investigation found no wrongdoing on the part of then vice president. >> mayor of moscow's wife gav your son $3.5 million. >> that's not true. >> reporter: sharply disagreed about health care. >> he wants to get rid of the

affordable care act. >> reporter: how do defeat the coronavirus pandemic. >> folks at home, how many of you got up this morning and had an empty chair at the kitchen table because somebody died of covid? >> if we would have listened to you, the country would have been left wide open. millions of people would have died, not 200,000. >> reporter: and the economy. >> you have to open these states up. it's not fair. you're talking about almost like being in prison. >> you can't fix the economy until you fix the covid crisis and he has no intention of doing anything about making it better for you all at home in terms of your health and your safety. >> reporter: the president denied a "new york times" report that he paid $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017. >> i paid millions of dollars in taxes, millions of dollars in income tax. >> show us your tax returns. >> i went -- you'll see it as soon as it's finished. you'll see it. >> reporter: mr. trump also wouldn't commit to reference any election results, referencing potential fraud without evidence. >> i see tens of thousads of

ballots being manipulated, i can't go along with that. >> reporter: under pressure, biden wouldn't say if he supports adding seats on the supreme court. >> are you going to pack the court? >> make sure you let people k w know. >> he doesn't want to answer the question. >> i'm not going to answer the question. >> reporter: and distance themselves from liberal environmental policy. >> you support the green new deal? >> no, i don't. >> oh, you don't? that's a big statement. you just lost the radical left. >> i support the biden plan that i put forward. >> biden's campaign said he raised nearly $4 million between 10:00 and 11:00 p.m., their best online fund-raising hour to date. people on a train in cleveland for a whistle stop tour while the president holds a campaign rally tonight in dul. th, minnesota. >> ed, thank you very much. several things the candidates said during the debate were at least partially untrue and paula reid is fact checking all of it, with the

most important question of all, election integrity. >> president trump made several claims without evidence to support them about election integrity in tuesday's debate, including this one. >> take a look at west virginia. mailmen selling the ballots. they're being sold. they're being dumped in rivers. >> reporter: that statement is false. earlier this year a west virginia mailmen pleaded guilty to attempted election fraud after changing the party affiliation on five ballot request forms from democrat to republican. there is no evidence that this is widespread. and when asked about the devastating wildfires in california -- >> every year, i get the call. california is burning. california is burning. if that was cleaned, if you had forest management, good forest management, you wouldn't be getting those calls. >> reporter: the truth is, scientists have said higher temperatures, stronger winds and drier conditions caused by climate change are the real reasons why they have been worse this year. we should also point out that

the federal government owns and controls nearly 60% of forests in california, which would make forest management a federal issue in many cases. meanwhile, former vice president biden made this claim about manufacturing. >> because what he did, even before covid, manufacturing went in the hole. manufacturing went in the hole. >> reporter: we found that to be false. the trump administration actually added around 443,000 manufacturing jobs from january 2017 to this february before the pandemic hit. and had on the plan to how to handle the pandemic. >> when he was presented with that number, he said it is what it is. the president has no plan. he hasn't laid out anything. >> reporter: that is also not entirely true. while president trump has been criticized for his coronavirus response, his administration has announced plans on how to distribute 150 million rapid covid-19 tests and a vaccine

once it is available. the trump campaign insists that last night the president succeeded in his mission, which they believe was to lay out his america first agenda and try to trip up his rival. some of his allies say his aggressive behavior at times may have undercut his appeal. we see some of that reflected in our polling this morning, that shows most viewers were annoyed by this debate and found the overall tone to be negative. gayle? >> that's what we have here, too, paula. thank you so much, 60 minutes correspondent jon dickerson and joins us to continue the discussion. it was so good to see you at the table last night. you summed it up so beautifully when you said high stakes debate, high stakes, but very low debate. a lot of people feel that way. paula just said about people feeling annoyed and negative. it start ed out so friendly. he came out saying how are you doing? really looking forward to this. what was in this for the voters? what did they get out of this

last night? >> it started friendly but that was for about a minute. >> yeah. >> it was a pretty short duration there. what was in it for voters? i don't think they were terribly informed about very much. paula said some of the president's allies say he put forward his agenda. i don't think you could find it in the text of the debate if you went back and read it about what he's planning to do for the next four years. on policy matters, there wasn't much voters got. policy answers aren't all. i think they got a clear sense of the president's temperament, joe biden's temperament and their character, and a lot of things about how a candidate behaviors that goes beyond their policies. >> people would be talking about that white supremacist moment around the water cooler today where the president refused to condemn white supremacy. how do you explain that? >> as a president in the united

states, condemning white supremacy should be the easiest thing you do any day, all day. and for the president to not have done that was a major mistake. for the group that he was supposed to condemn, to take his words and turn it into a motto shows how far off the mark he was. president taft said don't speak so that you're understood, speak so that you can't possibly be misunderstood. in march of 2016, jake tapper asked him to condemn the kkk. he didn't. mitch mcconnell called him out for seeming indifference toward the kkk and david duke. after charlottesville in his immediate remarks, the president didn't call out the white supremacists. he blamed both sides. then again you have last night. this is a president who has a trigger figure that's very itchy to condemn people, gold star mothers, teenagers, whether it's the deceased. he is very comfortable condemning people. but when it comes to white supremacists, he gets marble

mouthed. >> the president interrupted the former vice president 73 times, at least. and that strategy began right from the get -- right out of the gate. he would interrupt him. seemed to be trying to throw him off stride and rattle him. what do you think was underneath that strategy? >> yes. his interruptions had interruptions. i think the strategy was to try to get in biden's head, to try to fluster him, to try to make him look -- again, i talk about those things that convey, to make him look like he lacked command, that he couldn't be president because he was flustered and rattled. he kept pressing on the accelerator when that wasn't working. and clearly from the responses in the poll, the president was so much more responsible for that annoyance that people felt as a result of that strategy, which is an incredibly high-risk

strategy for somebody already behind in the polls. who watched the president and thought i wasn't for him before, i'm for him now. >> picking up on that point, john, most people, according to the polls have, already made up their mind. tens of thousands of people have already voted. did their guy get closer to getting elected last night? is it possible to say there's a winner from all of that? >> to the extent that joe biden was ahead, he's the winner, because he's still ahead in a debate where the president did nothing to change the dynamic of the race and may, in fact, have hurt the dynamic of the race. the president needs to bring people into his fold and it doesn't look like there's anything there for the groups that the president is hurting with that brought anybody into the fold. so if there is a winner, it was joe biden who again if you look at the chaos and the mayhelm and the unpleasantness of last night, the largest share of it was the result of the president's behavior. this isn't just something where there's a kind of equivalence in

any possible way. so that's why you would have to think that joe biden came away with the night doing what he would have hoped. >> there's a lot of chatter today online, john, people so turned off and disgusted, saying forget it, i don't want any more debates. biden has made it clear he intends to continue to debate. what does each candidate need to do next time? i think people will be tuning in to see what is going to happen now. >> step back, think of the problems at this moment between covid, race and also the economy. there are a lot of answers. so perhaps the next debate can try to get at some of those answers, let alone what the next four years are going to be like. strategically, i'm not sure what the candidates are going to do, but the american people deserve better. >> john dickerson, thank you very much. in other news, officials say many people in northern california's wine country are now suffering from fire fatigue in the desperate struggle to control the flames.

the fourth major wildfire in three years is spreading in the hills north of san francisco. the glass fire has burned dozens of homes and threatened thousands of others. it's one of 30 fires burning in the state. this year's fires has burned 25 times as much land as last year. jonathan vigliotti is in calistoga, california, where residents have been told to e k evacuate. >> reporter: high humidity has helped calm down the flames, giving fire crews a bit of an upper hand here. a high wind event is expected later this week. the fast-moving glass fire continues to burn through the world famous napa valley, destroying dozens of homes and businesses and threatening hundreds more. more than 80,000 people have been forced to flee, including the entire towns of calistoga

and angwin. >> you look at your house going, am i ever going to see it again? >> reporter: some of the historic wineries and vineyards have suffered millions of dollars in damage. fire crews attacked the flames from above. but on the ground, law enforcement officers and homeowners are getting desperate. sheriff's lieutenant used a garden hose to protect this house. >> i just had to do something. >> reporter: bob pegram saved his neighbor's home, quickly notifying firefighters after it was quickly engulfed in flames. crews who were already stretched thin cut off the front steps just in time. >> that's it, that's the whole thing, they're overwhelmed. it's crazy. i've never seen anything like it. >> reporter: this is the fourth major fire in this area in three years. 2017 fire here killed 22 people.

douglas and john have evacuated twice. >> it's nice to have people around you who are caring. it means everything. >> reporter: at least 29 people have died so far this year in california. here at the glass fire, hundreds of structures have burned and that number is likely to grow. back to you. >> pleebs careful out there, jonathan, and thank you very much. ahead, what happened during the grand jury deliberations on breonna taylor's killing.

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cockpit to see how augmented reality is helping fighter pilots train more safely. why this new technology could reduce the number of service member good morning everyone, it's 7:26. i'm michelle griego. this morning, the napa county community of angwin is under a mandatory evacuation order along with the city of calistoga and the hills to the west between petrified forest road and diamond mountain road. in sonoma county, evacuation orders have been downgraded to warnings in santa rosa west of calistoga road. i'm gianna franco in the traffic center. as we take a look at the roadways right now, we've got a new trouble spot. westbound 80 right at fremont so that's as you come off the upper deck of bay bridge there. just reported by chp a crash blocking at least one lane. that number two lane from the left.

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welcome back to "cbs this morning." in a few hours kentucky's attorney general will give recordings of the breonna taylor grand jury hearing to a judge. daniel cameron now says he never recommended murder charges in the case. the grand jury handed down no charges for taylor's death, and one of the jurors is asking for permission to explain why. we're now learning more about that request. adriana diaz is in louisville. when will the public be able to hear these recordings? >> reporter: well, the judge ordered that the recordings be filed in court by noon today. the state attorney general said yesterday that most of the recordings will be made public, but it's unclear how or when that will happen once the court has them.

and the grand juror who's petitioning the court to speak publicly says they want to talk about what might not be in the recordings, possible charges or defendants not presented. [ chants ] >> reporter: protesters and breonna taylor's mother, tamika palmer, have not stopped demanding justice, especially after kentucky attorney general daniel cameron admitted he never recommended murder charges for taylor's death. >> ultimately, our judgment is that the charge that we could prove at trial beyond a reasonable doubt was for, one, endangerment against mr. hankinson. >> reporter: former bret hankison has pleaded not guilty. in an exclusive interview with wdrb tv, cameron said that while some feel justice was not served, he says the facts won out. >> i cannot fashion the facts in such a way to meet a narrative

that in many ways had already been put out there before the facts had been put out there. >> we continue to ask for full transparency -- >> reporter: the family attorney ben jump says the upcoming release of the grand jury recordings is one small step toward justice. >> we at least want to know that it's equal justice under the law for black people as victims, not only when black people are accused of crimes. >> reporter: the other two officers who fired shots at taylor including the bullet that killed her, myles cosgrove and jonathan mattingly, were not indicted on any charges. the attorney for the anonymous juror who wants to speak out says his client felt compelled to take action after how cameron presented the grand jury findings last week. is there a concern that if these feel regulars released it could set a precedent for future grand juries where grand jurors won't be able to trust that their proceedings remain private? >> it would be more dangerous to set a precedent to not disclose everything to the public. that you're allowed to.

>> reporter: louisville's incoming police chief, yvette gentry, the first woman in the role, says one of her first orders of business is regaining trust. >> i think you have to acknowledge that some of the reasons why they don't trust it is because some of the basic information has been skewed, and i wland understand what it feel to be angry and upset, both from what the protesters are feeling and the officers, as well. >> reporter: the grand juror is asking for more than the recordings to be released, they want all transcripts and reports to be made public. we don't know when a judge might rule but the attorney is hopeful it could happen within a couple of weeks. tony? >> all right, thank you very much. this is kind of a high-stakes release for attorney general cameron. president trump called him a star. he's a mitch mcconnell protege. his political career could be on the line in some ways. >> the fact that this grand juror said, listen, i want to speak, i want the president ton

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general public. it is a flirty one. my apologies to your wife -- >> the general public is going to get me in trouble. >> they might. sarah says, i got a fever, and the only prescription is "what to watch." >> spicy. thank you very much, sarah. good morning -- >> sarah, he's married. >> thank you. gayle always there to remind us. here's are few stories we will you'll be following today. buffalo city council has passed a law requiring police officers to intervene when they believe another officer is using unreasonable force. it's named for former buffalo police officer cariol horne seen here celebrating. she said she was fired in 2008 after she stopped a white officer's choke hold on a black suspect in handcuffs. she spoke with jericka duncan in june about her reaction to george floyd's arrest. >> looking at the video, it was very upsetting. and i felt that if one of those

officers had stepped in, that he would be alive today. >> this new law protects officers who intervene from unlawful retaliations. officers who do not step in could face criminal charges. buffalo's police department did not return our request for comment. it is waiting for the mayor's signature. >> wow. i remember jericka's story -- you remember that? it was so powerful. this is such great news, great followup to the story. >> it shifts the incentives. you know the officers see something wrong and they want to step in, but maybe they don't feel they can. now that duty is foishofficial, should. >> at least in buffalo. we are remembering helen reddy who gave us that enduring anthem "i am woman." ♪ i am strong strong i am invincible ♪ ♪ i am invincible i am woman ♪ >> hear me roar. reddy's family says she died yesterday at the age of 78 in los angeles. "i am woman" went to number one

in 1972, earned her a grammy making her the first australian to get the award. reddy followed with a string of top hits including "delta dawn" and "ain't no way to treat a lady." she also hosted a variety show. and folks, i didn't know this until i saw the wires. i thought it was a mistake. but another popular singer from that era has also passed away, mack davis died last night. he fell ill following surgery this week. davis wrote some of my favorite elvis presley songs including "a little less conversation" and "in the ghetto." he started recording in eight 70s and had hits like "stop and smell the roses." davives was 78 -- davis was 78. reddy was the taylor swift of her day. as a kid, i didn't understand the news about the equal rights amendment or the evefeminine mistakes, but my mom and aunt played "i am woman" and i got it. >> and from high school that. ♪ if i can i'd do anything there was something about those

words. i can. "i am woman, hear me roar." as well that -- and mack davis was in "north dallas 40." he wrote songs for all sorts of people that you don't realize mack davis' like "i believe in music." >> yeah. >> and -- and "baby don't get hooked on me" was a hit for him -- ♪ >> gale will si-- gayle will sit t -- will sing all the hits. imagine calling for hear lpd a paramedic arrives in a jet pack. look at that simulation from the uk. the suit has two mini engines on each arm and one on the back. the pair med will be a medical kit could respond to people in tough terrain. honorab holly moms spoke with the

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harumichi shibasaki san -- >> i like hearing the name. [ speaking foreign language ] >> means wonderful. he has a tiktok page with 30,000 followers. his videos take us back to bob ross' belaugh dloved "the joy. painting," and who could forget the happy trees. >> the soothing voice -- >> and the hair. >> the hair, too. >> the japanese artist is really good. >> a lot of people love him. he's blowing up now. ahead, more on last night's contentious debate. you're watching "cbs this morning." ♪ sweat it ♪ bend and stretch it ♪ track it ♪ share it ♪ and compare it renew active gives you so many ways to be healthy. get medicare with more. (vo) she's driven by a a lynx in the wild and your cat. for a lynx this need is satisfied by what the wild provides, for your cat it's meat-rich blue wilderness. because your cat is wild inside.

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it's wednesday, september 30th, 2020. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king with tony dokoupil and anthony mason. debate debacle. chaos reigns with the president repeatedly talking over joe biden and the moderator. we'll get analysis from both sides on this very partisan divide. >> virtual flyers in our innovation series. how virtual reality is helping fighter pilots prepare for battle. here's today's eye opener at 8:00. >> exhausting and chaotic.

first debate last night between president trump and joe biden. >> remember, cleveland is the home of rock and roll, but nothing about last night is worthy of the hall of fame. >> polling this morning shows most viewers were just annoyed by this debate and found the overall tone to be negative. >> is it possible to say there's a winner from all that? >> to the extend joe biden is ahead, he's the winner because he's still ahead in a debate where the president did nothing to change the dynamic of the race and may, in fact, have hurt the dynamic of the race. >> high humidity overnight has helped calm down the flames giving fire crews who were already stretched thin a bit of an upperhand. the glass fire is 2% contained and a high wind event is expected later this week. >> it was really a good debate. the candidates had a productive give and take -- no, it was terrible. it was a terrible debate. i'd call it a nightmare, but at least during a nightmare you get some sleep.

at one point we were trying to decide if we would move to vancouver or montreal. >> it's what everybody is talking about this morning. the first presidential debate of this election season. saw substance frequently drowned out by squabbling. >> you'll get the final word. >> it's hard to get any word in with this clown. >> you graduated the lowest or almost the lowest in your class. don't ever use the word smart with me. >> you're the worst president america has ever had, come on. >> let me tell you, joe, i've done more in 47 months, i've done more than you've done in 47 years. >> president trump interrupted joe biden more than 70 times. people were keeping track during last night's event in cleveland as the candidates sparred over health care, the coronavirus, and the economy. maybe one of the most shocking moments came when mr. trump failed to condemn white violent supremacists.

instead, he appeared to send some kind of message at a far right men's group. >> i would say almost everything i see is from the left wing. no. >> what do you -- >> i want to see peace. >> then do it. >> do it. say it. >> do you want to call them -- what do you want to call them? give me a name. >> white supremacists. >> who would -- >> stand back and stand by, but i'll tell you what. i'll tell you what. somebody's got to do something about ante fa and the left. >> joe biden dodged the question of whether he'd support adding more justices to the supreme court should the president's latest nominee be appointed. he then lashed out at the president. >> how strongly do you feel? let vote now. make sure you, in fact, let people know. >> he doesn't want to answer the question. >> i'm not going to answer the question. >> why not? >> the question is -- >> justice -- radical left.

>> will you shut up, man? >> the debate's contentious tone turn maryland viewers off. 69% told cbs news they felt annoyed by it. 83% of poll respondents said the overall tone was negative. >> joining us now, president trump's former white house chief of staff reince priebus and joel payne. good morning to both of you, gentlemen. sometimes there's a split between what the professional pundits and the general public is saying. here we have a poll saying most viewers thought it was negative and annoying. reince, how do you describe it? >> well, i don't think too many people are probably moved by it. i think personally, i think president trump would have been better by allowing joe biden just to speak and melt and the few times he did try to speak and he did speak, i don't think he did particularly well around the crime bill and other topics.

but look, i also saw some analysis where one-third of the people out there thought trump one. one-third thought biden won, and one-third said they're going to stay home which is great for the president. it's bad for a challenger. but i think the name calling and biden saying shut up and racist and liar and clown, i don't think it served anyone well. i think it happened on both sides. a little too hot, probably, but i also think it's reflective of the country. i think that's where the country is at. and people are fired up. and i think you saw that last night. >> yeah. reince, it's quite a commentary when you say it's good for the president if people don't show up for the polls. that says a lot. >> well, guess what. it's politics. it's called politics. >> and i think people are fed up by that, and typically you would say i'm a popular candidate. i want everyone to have their say so i'll be chosen. but you're saying it's good for the president if people are

turned off. that's an interesting point of view from a political campaign standpoint. >> joel, do agree with the viewers turned off by the toeb? >> last night you needed to -- i only felt bad for one person there. it was the moderator and the people having to watch it at home. this was american carnage. i think what i'm hearing from people is they're ready to get off the roller coaster. they know who's causing us, donald trump. his strategy was clear to try to distract and throw joe biden off his game, and i think all he did was presented a microcosm of the last three and a half years, chaos, a lack of plan, and a lack of any desire to bring the country together. so if the whole point is addition and is to bring coalitions together, i don't think donald trump did that. i think joe biden, sure, there was some uneven moments. overall, he tried to reach out to new voters and tried to broaden his coalition, and

that's what you're trying to do when you try to win elections? >> a group by the name of proud boys is doing the hula and has a new slogan thanks to president trump last night. reince, the president talks endlessly about all the work he does for black americans in this country and the support he has and he's done more for black americans since president lincoln, yet he refuses to condemn this white supremacist group. reince, why is it to difficult for him to do that? >> i don't honestly -- i don't know who proud boys are, and if you're saying what they are, then yeah, they should be condemned. i don't know who they are. >> but i didn't ask you if you knew -- reince, this is really, really important. i'm not asking if you know who they are. i'm asking you as someone who knows president trump very well, why it's so hard for him, the president of the united states, to condemn a white supremacist

group. i know you know what white supremacist means. someone said to me this morning, it's like if you say to a guy are you against men abusing women and you go well, what kind of abuse is it? it doesn't the name of the group, he's refusing to condemn white supremacy. why is that so hard for the president of the united states? and everybody always dodging around the question. you know him intimately. >> i think he has. i've been in press conferences when he has. i've seen him say it repeatedly. he's condemned many white supremacist groups. and gayle, you're going to have to ask the person you're asking the question to, you're not asking me. you're asking the president. you're going to have to ask him. as far as the debate is concerned, i personally totally missed that with all the shouting back and forth. i didn't even hear that part of the debate. >> well, that's there. a lot of people did hear it. but that's fair if you missed it. >> it was a thing this morning that's been spurring up that i

just picked up on. you're probably going to ask the president. i would imagine he's going to be asked the question, and i would guess he's going to condemn the white supremacist groups. i've seen him do it for. >> reince, as a lifelong republican, i would say you would want to ask the president. >> i didn't miss it. >> i don't know what he heard or what he knew. i don't even know what he heard or what he knew. >> okay. okay. reince. >> we have his record. look at hbcus and what he's done on first stepback and look at what he's done on black unemployment prepandemic, and look at the results. and then you have to look at what joe biden did in supporting the 1994 crime bill. >> then it shouldn't be hard for him to condemn white supremacists. >> gayle, i don't know -- >> i hear you. i hear you. >> tony? >> joel, you were saying? >> i was saying i didn't miss it. reince, i like reince, and i think that the difficulty he's

having speaking for the president today is a difficulty a lot of republicans are going to have up and down the ballot over the next month. if you're susan collins in maine or cory gardener. if you are thom tillis in north carolina, this is who you have to run this. donald trump is forcing people to make a decision, do i run with the decision and he's heating up the base and you'll have a lot of republican turnout, but there's no effort to reach out. john dickerson earlier said you cannot win elections by heating up your base and not heating up the middle. >> let me say this. no republicans, no republicans support these white supremacist group. i don't support them. i never did when i was party chairman. i don't agree with anything that they're doing. i think they're fringe people. i don't think you can win elections with these people. >> will the president condemn today, reince? >> again -- >> we got to go.

>> you have to ask him. i'm sure he will, because he's done it before. >> okay. we'll see. >> the question is why he didn't last night. i would think you would want to ask him as a lifelong republican. we have to go to break. i want to point out the proud boys describe themselves as a western -- that is the vow members take. a western chauvinist who refuses to apologize

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we continue our "eye on innovation" series on the increasing role that science and technology play in our lives. traditional u.s. military flight training is expensive and very risky, from 2013 to 2017, more than 130 service members died in aviation accidents. now a startup is helping avoid those tragedies with augmented reality. only on "cbs this morning," we go inside the cockpit with cbs sunday morning's lee cowan. >> reporter: california's edwards air force base, it's kay cathedraleral to aerospace history. names like yeagher and armstrong come to mind.

>> anything that was cool, game changer, it happened here. >> reporter: and it still does, does kro says col "laz" gordon. >> thee's your sonic boom. >> reporter: whoa. >> i knew one was coming. >> reporter: every day jets shatter the skies here training the best fighter pilots in the world. it's dangerous, not to mention expensive. an f-22 raptor, for example, costs about $40,000 for every hour it's in the air. fighter pilots like travis johnson say at the moment that's still the best way to train. >> you don't want the answer for why you got shot down or why you lost a fight to be because i wasn't trained, i didn't know how to handle the situation. >> reporter: in an era of shrinking budgets, pilot shortages, and burnout from endless wars, the air force was faced with a big problem. >> if we do not innovate, we're going to lose, period. >> reporter: and the stakes couldn't be higher.

>> we are faced with an opposition that has, you know, superior numbers, technology that's at least on par with ours. if we're not scared of that, we should be. >> reporter: what countries are we talking about? >> we're talking about china. >> reporter: dan robinson is a graduate of the uk fighter weapons school, the equivalent of the navy's top gun. if it's got wipngs, he can fly it. it was a game that stogot him started red six off the ground. >> can we do that in airplanes? the guys looked at me as if i was crazy and said, no, we can't do that. >> reporter: what did you think? >> i thought who would be crazy enough to let us use their plane to do this. dan returned with, "me." >> reporter: no sane pilot would fly blind with a headset portraying only virtual reality. augment reality allows pilots to train against a virtual christ while flying their real surroundings. augmented reality doesn't work in the daylight, and it's not

fast enough to keep one a fighter jet -- or is it? >> the first time it crackled into life and we saw something in the sky, that's when we knew. >> reporter: this was possible. >> that this was possible. the question was could we do it in the air? ♪ >> reporter: what he's about to show us is something only a few people outside the air force have ever seen. >> here we go. there we go. >> reporter: that is amazing. this is augmented reality at its sheer limit. all of it projected on to the visor on our helmets. >> there it is. look at that. >> reporter: wow. >> that's pretty sinister looking. >> reporter: that's a russian su-57 behaving just the way it would in a real dogfight. >> oh. there he is. >> reporter: where did he go? i lost him. yet all we were chasing was thin

air. eliminating the danger of a midair collision. a huge risk when it comes to training pilots to do midair refueling missions like this. i'm speechless. so was the air force. >> we were familiar with the dream and the concept but were told that was years away. we walk in and realize it's today. >> reporter: if all goes as planned, the air force hopes to have red sixes antibioticme e ey early next year. that's fast but not fast enough for a fighter pilot like don robinson. >> i am really grateful and stunned when i really reflect on what we've achieved. but i always want to go faster. ♪ >> reporter: air supremacy isn't a race he plans to lose. for "cbs this morning," i'm lee cowan, somewhere high over southern california. >> be careful, lee. it's so real, i need a barf bag.

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good morning, it's 8:25. i'm len kiese. right now, the napa county community of angwin is under a mandatory evacuation order along with the city of calistoga. all because of the glass fire in sonoma county and evacuation orders have been downgraded to warnings in santa rosa west of calistoga road. muni fare operators will be back on buses as early as october but with a new approach to fare enforcement. passengers will be asked to show proof of payment as they board, rather than mid trip to avoid delays. oakland international airport will be offering free covid testing for those traveling to hawaii. this comes after united and

hawaiian airlines announced they would give testing at sfo for $250. and we've got a crash on 580. as you work through the oakland area blocking lane and you can see in the sensors a lot of brake lights especially on the westbound side so give yourself a few extra minutesment stick with 80 the nimitz freeway looking a lot better this morning for that ride out of the east bay area. also take a look at traffic elsewhere. westbound highway 4 a little busy as you head through the bay point area into concord. and the bay bridge, metering lights remain on and you are backed up well into the maze. mary? gianna, it's foggy and smoky start to the day. cool at the coast today and mile around the bay and heating up inland and gets even hotter for tomorrow with a heat advisory for your thursday for most of the bay area. due to extreme heat. we're going to have more smoke and a high fire danger expected for tomorrow with a north bay mountains fire weathe watch they do one of the most difficult jobs there is,

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welcome back to "cbs this morning." time to bring some of the stories that we call "talk of the table" this morning. one of my favorite segments that we do. you know, i got in at 2:00 this morning, anthony, so tis was dragging a little bit. but i'm having such a good time. i've gotten a second wind. >> i can tell. >> you're in pole position. >> you came back from the debate. that's why you got in so late. >> yeah. yeah. yeah. >> glad you're doing okay. here's my question -- have you ever wondered what football players talk about on the sidelines during a game? >> i have. >> with no fans in the stands, you can hear things a lot more clearly. houston texans' brandon dunn and j.j. watt could hear a blimp overhead and started talking about it. take a listen.

>> there is weird -- >> the whole game? will. >> no, just dead silence. you can hear the blimp. that's how quiet it is. >> sounds like somebody's flying over. >> yeah. that's what it's doing. >> going to be like -- hovering like you want to keep it technical. just chilling up there. >> it is flying overhead. >> it's hovering over top. it's not flying. >> it's not flying? >> you're telling me that thing in the air is not flying? what is hovering? is hovering a form of flying? >> yes. >> thank you. >> now that's a debate. >> that's so good. >> that clip was posted to social media by nfl films and launched a debate, does a blimp hover, or does a blimp fly? we looked up the definition of fly, to move in or pass through wave, or soar. to cause to float or hang in the air, but the definition of hover is to hang fluttering in the air. >> i love that they were even debating. i think j.j. watt is terrific. he's such a great guy. >> yeah.

>> just the fact that they're talking like that is great. >> where do you come down, anthony? >> i think it's very quiet at football games now. that's my conclusion. i think it -- it can be both. >> i was thinking that, too. you didn't ask me, but i think it could be both, too, tony. >> i think both is the right answer. diplomatic from both sides, both sides could be right. >> true. i'm talking about a wildlife park in england that has decided to remove five gray parrots from public view because they are swearing at visitors. >> i love this. >> the park shared images of the culprits on instagram. there they are. swearing at visitors and staff, by the way. not going to tell you what they're allegedly saying because it's not safe for tv. now the birds are said to have taught each other the curse words. but i don't quite buy that. i think there had to be a human being involved at some point. the reason i picked this is growing up in miami, all of my birthday party as a kid were at the parrot jungle. the shots of parrots on our heads and stuff.

as we got older, we were trying to teach the parrots a thing or two. they would repeat about anything. >> you know i want to know what the swear word were. can you stay what it started with? >> it started with an "f." >> know it what that is. >> some were multiword. they were creative insults. >> sentences even? >> not quite a sentence. one was a kind of thing that if you were a groundkeeper and dropped something, that word was used. >> got it. they're smart parrots, too. >> they're very good mimics. >> sounds like they were using it appropriately. moving on. superstar alicia keys surprised some howard university graduate students when she dropped in on their virtual seminar last week. >> that would be great -- >> bang. hello. >> hey amazing, wise, intelligent ones. how are you? >> the seminar was called gender and media. beforehand, the students had been told that a person from alicia keys' video creative team would join the discussion.

then alicia herself appeared. she said she loved it. she said the conversation was deep and insightful. they talked about the roles of race and societal expectations in music and media. one of the students said this, "she was a refreshing voice to the class, and the actualization of the theoretical topics and idea that we research in the class." clearly they got some very smart students at howard university. aren't you zoomed out? >> i am -- if alicia keys popped up on my zoom screen, i'm not sure i would notice it. everybody looks so small. >> once they realized it was her, hard to see, they went a little cray-cray. very nice of her to do. we're making a turn. detectives are close to solving a cold-case murder of an up-and-coming hip-hop producers, kevin robert harris, that was his name, the second, shot outside a music studio in 2009. he was only 21 years old.

"cbs this morning saturday" co-host michelle miller got an inside look at the investigation for tonight's "48 hours: us is suspicion." >> reporter: on the morning kevin harris was murdered, he had a premonition. he told his mom, katheryn. >> he said, everything's happening so fast. i feel like something's going to happen. i said, don't think like that. >> reporter: kevin was a musician, a rising young producer in the los angeles wrld of hip-hop. ♪ this is his music you're hearing in this piece. he just sold a track to music legend ice cube, and his family says that britney spears and rihanna were interested in working with him. but that never happened. in september of 2009, he was gunned down in his car, alone outside a recording studio near l.a.x. his dad also named kevin -- >> 10 to 17 shots, two different

handguns, how much do you have to kill him? >> reporter: kevin's mom and dad arrived at the crime scene about three hours after the shooting. they say the police were already gone. katheryn took what was left behind. >> wiped the blood up off the street and the glass from his window was on the ground. and i used my hands as a broom to gather the glass. >> reporter: kevin's case quickly went cold, and now 11 years later, the fbi is involved. >> the clues are absolutely out there. we just need that one piece, that one smoking gun. >> wow. michelle, you feel really for the family. this has been so long ago. why has it taken the police so long to follow up on this case or now you're saying that there are leads in the case. >> reporter: they've been working on it for the past 11 years, about five years ago the fbi got involved. in fact, there has been an arrest in this case.

but investigators say it just did not -- that suspect did not cross the threshold of reasonable doubt. they just need one piece, one piece of this puzzle to get them over. they say they're 80% there. they're hoping this broadcast will give them that development that will take it over the finish line. >> boy, michelle, so young and so talented. i'm glad you're doing the story because somebody out there knows something. thank you. thank you very much. you can see michelle's report tonight, "the ambush of kevin harris," on "48 hours suspicion," at 10:00, 9:00 central on cbs. ahead we'll talk to actors jim parsons and matt boehmer about how their

if a photon is directed through a plane with two slits and either is observed will not go through both splits. if it's observed after it left the plane but before it hits the target, it will not have gone through both splits. >> agreed. what's your point? >> no point. i think it's a good idea for a t-shirt. [ laughter ] >> that was the first time audiences fell in love with jim parsons as physicist past half y

and how much it hasn't. he stars alongside matt bomer and a cast of openly gay actors in the netflix movie "the boys in the band." it reunites the cast from the 2018 broadway play that originally debuted off broadway 50 years earlier. the movie takes place in 1968 manhattan as nine friends gather for a birthday party. over the course of the evening, each man confronts his own truths at a time when homosexuality was still considered unacceptable. here's a preview. >> i had to come in town for a birthday party anyway, right. >> you had to remind me. if there is one thing i'm not ready for it is five screaming queens singing "happy birthday." >> who's coming? >> i think you know everybody anyway. same old tired fairies you've seen around since day one. actually, you know what, there will be seven counting harold and you and me. >> are you calling me a

screaming queen or tired fairy? >> and jim parsons and matt bomer joins us now. good morning to both of you. welcome. >> good morning, anthony. >> jim, let me start with you. this movie -- the movie as i said took place in 1968 which is a year before the stonewall riots which launched the whole gay rights movement. 50 years later, more than 50 now, 52 years later, why is this story still relevant? >> well, i think for a couple of reasons. one, i do think while overt bigotry and homophobia is certainly less, i think it still exists in subtle forms. but i also think that this piece that mark crowley wrote so truthfully, so honestly, because of that it's expanded. now it's not just about gay people. now you can watch a piece like this and you see all the ways any form of oppression or othering or shaming people for

who they are, how it negatively affects them and their actions. >> matt, the movie reunites your entirely cast, as i said, all openly gay actors. what was that experience like for you? >> life changing to be honest with you. to get to tell this story with this group of guys in two different mediums, it's just unheard of. we never get that blessing in our industry. so we were able to take all the camaraderie and ensemble that we created on stage doing it eight times a week and bring that to a new medium with a great director in joe montello who modulated things and really brought it to life in a great new, fresh way on film. >> did i read that you said it was actually more challenging in some ways to make the movie than to do the stage play, which is a really -- doing theater is grueling. >> it is, but i feel there's a beautiful sense of closure on stage. you tell the entire story, a to z, take a curtain call, you go have a drink at joe allen's

afterwards and call it a night. on film, you're in the middle of the process, you're right in the middle of the drama on the day to day. and there's a lot of time to go home and over think things. i always say some of my best acting is on the drive home. >> jim, this play has a particularly special legacy in that as mark crowley pointed out when he won a tony award, the original cast took a huge risk being part of it. their whole careers, in fact. and then a handful, five i believe, ultimately died of aids. what does carrying on their legacy mean to you? >> it means a lot. it's a pleasantly heavy feeling that has only gotten more heavy as we've spent this time with it. i didn't see that coming from myself. i didn't consider it when i took the role in any way overly relating to the cast that had

come before me. it's become clear that us as nine out-gay actors with successful careers that we're still going on with, our experiences diametrically opposed to what those men went through in the '60s and '70s when they performed in this. that speaks volumes. very positive volumes. i don't know, it's a way to honor them i think to watch us and to think about the lives that they led. >> your character goes into in dark territory, as you've said. and as harold, one of the other guests at the party says of your character, "when he's sober he's dangerous, when he drinks, he's lethal." were you worried about that character in today's environment? >> no, i was excited by it honestly. not because i think it's a place to aim for. i think that i'm playing a character who is in a very unhealthy place largely due to the society he's living in at the time. and the chance to explore that

and the ways in which that kind of thing affects a human being. i was excited to take that journey. and in my own sadistic actor way, it really was very fun to get to those places. he reaches real breaking point in this, and i think a lot of actors, we enjoy getting to that place and feeling that out. >> matt, you said that the movie challenges the stereotypes of gay men, about gay men. what did you mean? and good to see you both. what did you mean by that? >> good to see you, as well. well, i think it's really profound and a testament to mark crowely. i want to echo what jim said. we stand on the shoulders of this original cast and mark who had the courage to tell the story in 1968. we can tell this version of the story with all openly gay actors 50-plus years later largely in no small part because of them. i'm grateful to them. i think it's amazing that mark really drew nine very distinct, different gay characters. you don't really even see that

in 2020 in a lot of entertainment. so i think within the piece there are -- every character has his own world, inddiosyncrasies it's not one stereotype or the sassy friend or -- or you know, that kind of character that you see so often in the media. >> matt, you recently shared about your son who's 14 that he came out to you as straight. you don't often hear the story that way. can you share with us what that meant to you, what that was like? i think it's great you're sharing it, too. yeah. >> i only told you he's 15 because he would want me to tell you that he's 15. >> that is true. >> he's -- it wasn't -- it's been sensationalized, it wasn't a big thing. we were having dinner table conversation. i think it was just important for him to let us know. and i love that he felt comfortable enough to share that with us. >> i do, too. i do, too. >> jim, quickly, you reveal that you and your husband had covid earlier this year. but you're doing okay.

>> yeah. we're doing great. you know, it was scary because it's all new and scary. but we really did. we came through with flying colors. here i am. >> yes. we're glad about that. >> and one of the things i wanted to mention before we go is that one of the special parts of this film is that mark crowley who wrote "the boys in the band" died this week, makes a cameo appearance. that's a nice touch. jim, matt, thank you both. "the boys in the band" is streaming on netflix today. on today's "cbs this morning" podcast, fixmaker alex gibney talks about his documentary "agents of chaos" which looks at russian interference in the 2016 u.s. election. we'll be right back. stay with us. proposition 16 takes on discrimination. some women make as little as 42% of what a man makes. voting yes on prop 16 helps us fix that. it's supported by leaders like kamala harris

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