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up next. have a great wednesday. good morning to our viewers in the west, welcome on this humpday, october 21st, 2020. i'm gayle king with anthony mason and tony dokoupil. the president makes a frenzied push for votes. he goes on the attack during a flurry of campaign stops, lashing out at opponents and critics. plus why there are new roadblocks with any new stimulus deal. we're at america's crossroads in the critical swing state of pennsylvania where we caught up with blue collar workers and suburban women to find out what matters to them. plus i dropped in at a trump rally to see the enthusiasm of his supporters firsthand. a juror in the breonna taylor case speaks out. why that juror believes the prosecutor threw the grand jury
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under the bus on the issue of whether to charge police officers in taylor's death. and dave matthews, you know him, joins us live. what this pandemic has taught him about his values and fatherhood and why he wants everybody to vote. but first, here's today's "eye-opener." it's your world in 90 seconds. >> this is an election between the trump super recovery, which is happening right now, and a biden depression. >> president trump traveled to the key state of pennsylvania while democratic nominee joe biden prepares for thursday's final debate. >> after reports that president trump abruptly ended an interview with "60 minutes" he's threatening to release it before air time. >> you'll have to watch what we do with "60 minutes." you're going to get a kick out of it. >> melania trump had been scheduled to appear with her husband. her office cancelled citing a lingering cough from her covid infection. an anonymous grand juror in the breonna taylor case said the
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panel was never given the option to indict the police officers for homicide. >> the department of justice is filing an antitrust lawsuit against google, claiming the tech giant has abused its market power. >> all that -- >> that is caught. >> unbelievable double play! >> the dodgers take game one of the world series. >> -- and all that matters -- >> a 94-year-old woman traveled 300 miles to cast her ballot. >> when she did not receive her absentee ballot, she asked her son to drive her to detroit. >> there should be a special prize for anyone who travels that far to vote. a platinum "i voted" rings. >> trump said he felt great after getting treated for the covid, and he claimed what's fast becoming one of his latest hits. >> i woke up and i felt good. i said get me out of here, boom, superman. >> trump isn't superman.
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for pete sakes, superman spends half of his time at least pretending to care about journalism. >> the daily slam-it. >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" is presented by progressive, making it easier to bundle insurance. >> everybody knows there's only one superman. that's clark kent. welcome to "cbs this morning." as you know, tony has been on a bit of a road trip you could say lately. this week we've highlighted some key battleground states in our series. we're calling it "at america's crossroads." today we're focusing on the battleground state of pennsylvania where both candidates are making a major push. tony is in erie county. good morning to you, tony. >> the sun is breaking through and another day of campaigning for voters to consider their choices. president trump yesterday it was president trump making his pitch to voters here. this is a potentially decisive battleground in the 2020
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election. a state he won in 2016, by fewer than 45,000 votes. or what might be considered a lightly attended steelers but he is trailing now wouldby points and at a rally he spent much of his time on offense continuing a pattern of wide rac ranging attacks including on dr. fau dci fauci. li let's go to paula reid. >> you know what we want, normal life. normal life will fine apple resume. >> reporter: president trump continues to falsely claim the country is past the pandemic. but first lady melania trump is among those still struggling with the lingering effects of the virus. she was scheduled to accompany her husband to erie last night, but she pulled out as the white house says she still has a lingering cough from covid-19.
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and as dr. fauci warns the virus is having a resurgence. good he's . >> he's a nice guy, but a little bit not a team player. >> reporter: as millions remain unemployed, president trump continues to tease a second round of covid financial relief even though negotiations have been dragging on for months. >> i want to do it even bigger than the democrats. >> reporter: high pressure highlighted divisions between the president and his own party. >> we're getting mixed messages. the senate saying one thing, the president saying he wants to spend more money than i do. but it is not about the money, it is how the money is spent. >> reporter: cbs news has confirmed mitch mcconnell has warned the white house not to move forward until after the election amid concerns that another big round of stimulus
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qu could qudivide the republican party when they need to unite. while he made no mention of a covid relief bill last night, the president took on "60 minutes" for an interview conducted earlier in the day. >> you have to watch what we do to "60 minutes," you'll get such a kick out of it. you're going to get a kick out of it. leslie stahl is not going to be happy. >> reporter: before his rally, he cut short an interview with "60 minutes" on tuesday at the white house, saying he's considering releasing the interview before it airs. "60 minutes" said the white house asked to record the interview only for its archives. the program has a long history of interviews with presidential candidates, asking those key questions in the run-up to an election. >> and of course you can watch "60 minutes" on sunday. paula, thank you very much. now, we mentioned that the president is t trailing here in pennsylvania and that has been true for months now.
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tonight joe biden will ghets get from firepower, will be will hit the campaign trail in person for the first time in philadelphia. i was wondering when we would he see the former president. >> and the latest sign of how important a swichk staswing sta pennsylvania is, former president obama makes his in-person debut holding what they are calling a drive-thru rally. and they will honk in afternoon roofl. a reminder that swing states like this one will determine who wins the white house. >> you know, if we win pennsylvania, we win the whole thing. we win the whole thing. >> reporter: pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes are critical to the president's re-election. the latest cbs news battle tracker shows him trailing democratic rival joe biden in a state mr. trump won four years ago by about 44,000 votes. >> hello, erie. may i please have your vote? >> reporter: he went back to
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erie in the northwestern industrial corner of the state because it helped him win four years ago. it's been a mostly democratic area until he flipped it red in 2016. the president knows one way to attack biden in this part of the country is to raise questions on his stance on hydraulic fracking. >> joe biden will ban fracking and abolish pennsylvania energy. >> reporter: biden has said he opposes new fracking on federal land. >> no matter how many lies he tells, i am not, not, not banning fracking. >> reporter: while the former vice president remains off the campaign trail preparing for thursday night's debate in nashville, his running mate kamala harris is filling the void, holding a virtual rally with voters in wisconsin. >> wisconsin, you're the key. milwaukee, we need you. >> reporter: and tonight former president barack obama is set to hold his first in-person campaign event for biden in philadelphia. >> joe biden needs your vote. >> reporter: he spent the last several months urging biden supporters to register to vote and is expected to make several
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in-person appearances in the closing days of the campaign. in another sign of the in another sign of the advantage the biden campaign has, the biden campaign has three times the amount of money than does the president. it is a reminder that the biden campaign can spend big money on advertising and getting out the vote with just 13 days to go. tony, you may have an rv, but the white board travels women. >> timing is duly noted. appreciate it. and voters you need a magic white board to know not just when election day is, but when we'll know the final results. and as we send it back to you, i think we should underscore that last point. in states like pennsylvania, we are unlikely to have final results on a winner until several days after election day.
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that is part of the normal process as they count mail-in ballots. people should not be concerned. and what we all really need to do is be patient. >> with a capital p. it is expected to be a long lights with t night, it does not mean the election is not legitimate, but testimony take a couple days seemingly to get all the votes counted. >> we'll continue to keep an eye on the o'keefe countdown calendar. a new cdc report gives fresh insight into the human toll of the pandemic. it says about 300,000 americans who should be alive died between late january and early october. two-thirds of those deaths are directly blamed on the coronavirus. cdc experts say covid may have played a role in the other deaths. for example, someone with heart attack symptoms hesitating to go to the emergency room. our lead national correspondent david begnaud joins us. david, what else is in this report? >> reporter: that the excess death rate among those 25 to 44
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years old has jumped 25% this year compared to previous years. that is the biggest change among any of the age groups. this new information that we're getting from the cdc is coming at a time when a lot of people are actually fighting over businesses requiring us to wear these. watch as a passenger appears to punch a delta flight attendant in the face. the airline says the passenger was not following safety instructions. bbc reporters onboard the plane said the traveler was refusing to wear a mask. >> hey, hey, hey! >> reporter: the confrontation comes as the cdc is issuing new guidelines, strongly urging everyone to wear masks on planes, trains and ridesharing vehicles. >> i wish they'd have come out saying this before, but again, it's never too late. >> reporter: north dakota is now leading the nation in cases per capita. the surge has led to its first
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mask mandate in two cities, fargo and minot, although it carries no penalty for noncompliance. south dakota's cases are also among the fastest growing in the country with almost 35,000 confirmed positive. listen to what the mayor of sioux falls, paul tenhaken says he's hearing. >> is this virus a real deal? is it the biggest hoax ever? >> reporter: for the record he does not believe in mask mandates, but he does believe everyone should wear one. >> i need this entire region to be diligent. i need you in northwest iowa, southwest minnesota, northeast nebraska to be doing this as well. when your people get sick, they're ending up in my city. >> i was one of those people telling everybody that it wasn't real but it is real. >> reporter: samantha williamson wound up in an oklahoma hospital infected with the virus. she is a mother of three who now has this warning. >> sitting in here, it makes you realize that we take everything for granted.
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it's not fake and it is a struggle. wear your mask. >> reporter: ms. williamson is expected to be in the hospital for another two weeks. this month alone there have already been 1 million new coronavirus cases in this country, 400,000 in the last week. gayle, this made some news yesterday. dr. francis collins, the boss of dr. anthony fauci, he runs the national institutes of health. he told npr that this thanksgiving he and his family are not having a celebration. he is calling it off because he is so concerned about this second wave that our country is facing. >> i'm doing that too. just what francis collins is doing, i've called it off too. david, i'm looking at your report. what has happened to us as a country that flight attendants who are there to protect you are getting hit in the face because they ask someone to wear a mask. i'm sorry miss williamson is in the hospital but am really glad she's changed her tune and putting that message out there.
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>> reporter: the only thing we can keep doing is letting you hear from people like miss williamson who was a nonbeliever and now got infected and is like wait a minute, listen to me, it's real. >> thank you very much, david begnaud. this morning we have new information on the trump administration's impact on families trying to cross the u.s. southern border. lawyers say they cannot find the parents of, listen to this number, 545 children after they were separated at the border. the children are now in u.s. custody and some of them have not seen their parents in more than three years. mireya villarreal reports on the efforts to track them down. >> reporter: in the aclu filing, lawyers say of the 1,030 separated children, they still haven't reached parents for 545 kids, and roughly two-thirds of those parents are believed to have been deported to their countries of origin. the children in question were separated before the trump administration fully implemented its short-lived zero tolerance
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policy. >> i didn't like the sight or the feeling of families being separated. >> reporter: it's been more than two years since president trump ended that policy, which separated more than 2,800 children from their families at the southern border. a federal judge then required the administration to reunite children with their parents within 30 days, a deadline it did not meet. >> our advice on that wasn't sought out. >> reporter: scott shuchart told "60 minutes" in 2018 that one of the government's problems was tracking the families it separated. the aclu filing offers more evidence of that claim, which was also confirmed by a november 2019 inspector general report, citing widespread errors in the government's methods. >> people were removed to other countries without there being good records of what adult went with what child. >> reporter: in july 2018 we spoke with bernardino contreras trejo and his daughter.
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he told us officials at the border said you mean nothing. you don't have any rights here. we're going to take your daughter away. >> did you know that it was possible? >> reporter: i didn't know that it was possible they could separate from my kid. >> he said they treated her bad and scolded her. >> reporter: how do you feel? powerless. a report shows that children separated from parents at the border were more likely to have higher levels of fear, abandonment, posttraumatic stress, and likely to consider self-harm and suicide. we have spoken with a number of these families and children. they say there are some big psychological impacts that they will be dealing with for a very long time. gayle. >> this is heartbreaking. we went to texas at the time, matter of fact saw you there too. we saw those people with their families.
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were there bad eggs in the group? maybe. but that's not what we saw. we saw desperate people trying to come here for a better life for their children and themselves and to protect their children. i can't understand why there wasn't a system in place to keep track of the kids. we wouldn't stand for this if somebody did this to american children. we would not stand for this. do you happen to know how the system worked? >> reporter: you know, gayle, i think a lot of this happened because the policy was implemented so quickly that the administration couldn't coordinate properly with all the federal agencies that were involved. you are talking about nearly a dozen of them impacted from border patrol, dhs to the department of health and human services, so i think the coordination was a very big issue. people were just caught off guard and didn't know and didn't have a tracking system in place. >> it's heart breaking. it should be all hands on deck to straighten this out. thank you very much. we'll check back in with tony. i'm going to get my earring, who's in the battleground state of pennsylvania. union workers helped carry
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president trump to victory back in 2016, but we spoke to some who say this year may be a little different.
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♪ >> yes, that's musician dave matthews and his band performing their hit song. ahead the grammy-winner will join us to talk about his passion for voting and
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hearts and minds right now. joe biden's road to the white house may be in hands like these. union hands. >> i voted for joe biden and kamala harris. >> how come? >> because they're pro labor. i've never watched a trump commercial and seen him mention anything about union labor. >> he does talk about bringing jobs back and supporting manufacturing. >> i don't believe it. i don't believe a single word he says. >> luke wanchock is a welder. >> this would have never happened without me and us. this would have never happened. >> it's now loudly claimed by president trump. >> i just love working with my hands. i feel like he's giving more opportunity to the billionaires to make more off the working class. you know, democrats were in
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charge for a lot of years when union membership nationally was going down, wages weren't going up, ceos were making more and more money. don't democrats like joe biden share some of the blame for that? >> all politicians share some of the blame for that. >> but it was donald trump who capitalized. he won more union votes nationwide than any republican presidential candidate since ronald reagan. >> i am a union man. >> now joe biden is working to reverse that slide. but in march, the former vice president appeared to say he wanted to ban fracking. >> no new fracking. >> although the campaign quickly clarified its position, president trump has used the issue as a weapon in gas-rich pennsylvania. >> over 600,000 pennsylvanians' jobs gone. >> how important is natural gas to allegheny county? >> it's huge. >> rich fitzgerald is a biden supporter and the top elected official in allegheny county. >> joe biden wants to be carbon zero on electricity in this country by 2035.
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how do you get to zero carbon by 2035 and still have this around? >> because you have carbon capture and you have technologies that are improving the production of not only the carbon. by the way, much less carbon because of natural gas. much less than coal and oil. >> that's why they say it's a bridge. but if i'm working here, i'm wondering a bridge to what. will i have a job in 15 years? >> no, there will be more jobs because we'll invest also in green technologies that we need to run our daily lives but it can be done safer. we just can't ignore what's going on in the climate. joe biden gets that. >> but around here, the economy often matters most. at a small machine shop, owner tara heffern says the president understands people like her. >> what always attracted me is he was a businessman. you know, my grandfather started out as an apprentice and he and a couple co-workers started out in their basements slowly pulled
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themselves up by the bootstraps. trump resonates with me because look at all the businesses and everything he built. >> next we headed to erie county, a former obama county that trump won by all but guaranteeing a blue collar renaissance. four years later, it simply hasn't arrived. erie county today has fewer manufacturing jobs than when president trump took office, and that was true even before the pandemic. but that doesn't mean he's lost the county or the state. we met cody swartword at a gas station. he's planning a first-time vote for president trump for reasons beyond jobs. >> most of the people that don't like him, they're pansies. he's doing what he wants to do and what should be done. all the people that don't want him are 'll be right back.
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in the breonna taylor case, a member of the grand jury is breaking their silence after a kentucky judge gave members permission to comment publicly. that grand jury in louisville heard evidence in the police killing of taylor and handed down no charges for her death. one officer has been charged with endangering taylor's
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neighbors. one of the jurors complained that state attorney general daniel cameron did not give them the option to charge police officers with murder. our national correspondent, jericka duncan, is covering the taylor case and the argument over the public's right to know. >> reporter: when kentucky attorney general daniel cameron said thisf deadly fire after having been fired on by kenneth walker. >> reporter: the anonymous grand jurors say the jury disagreed with that characterization and asked about additional charges, but were told there would be none because prosecutors couldn't make them stick. attorney kevin glogower represents both jurors. >> i think from our clients' perspective, they were completely thrown under the bus at that press conference. >> reporter: in a statement, juror number one seaid the gran
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jury was not presented any charges other than the three wanton endangerment charges against detective hankison. they did not have homicide offenses complained to them, self-defense or justification was never explained either. >> all of that evidence was not included in the grand jury presentation. those grand jurors did not hear things that are very arguably relevant to those determinations. >> reporter: cameron issued a statement last night after the judge's ruling, which says in part as special prosecutor, it was my decision to ask for an indictment on charges that could be proven under kentucky law. and for the first a race thing people want to make it to be. it's not. this is a point where we were doing our job and returned fire. >> reporter: gayle king spoke to taylor's boyfriend, kenneth walker. he said he fired once because he believed someone was breaking
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into taylor's home. his bullet allegedly hit sergeant mattingly in the leg. >> do you see it as a black/whitish you? >> i don't see this as a black/white issue. white, black, it doesn't matter. it could have been elderly people, it could have been kids, it could have been anything. they were just wrong all the way around the board. >> reporter: attorneys say because there is no statute of limitations on felony charges in the state of kentucky, technically a new attorney general or the next attorney general could decide to prosecute this case with different charges. but gayle, the attorney for those anonymous jurors say this was really about those jurors getting out their truth, but he stopped short of saying whether or not those jurors believe which charges the officers should have or could have been charged with. >> boy, this new information certainly opens up another wound for people who do not believe there has been justice in the breonna taylor case. even kenny walker said listen, he didn't think it was black and white. he said it became black and white this they walked out the
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door. keep in mind, he called 911 for help. so when he comes out of the building and happening here? >> reporter: right. the attorney for the jurors said all of those charges were presented after hearing all the evidence instead of getting a guideline of what you're listening for. so they said there were a lot of things that were confusing so we're waiting to see if those jurors will decide to speak publicly. >> i'm looking forward to hearing the interview from the police officer. i've never heard a police officer shoot someone and say, yeah, this was about race. it will be very interesting to see how that all turns out. thank you very much. ahead, vladimir duthie
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vlad, you are being introduced by greg who says tony may have been stung by a bee but vlad is all the buzz. >> here are a few stories i think you'll be buzzing about today. like how i did that? race car driver kyle larson is cleared to return to nascar six months after he was suspended for using a racialuspefor using. his racing team fired him in april after he was heard saying the "n" word during a virtual racing event. nascar ordered him to attend racial sensitivity training and last week larson told james brown he has definitely grown and is working to change after his highly publicized suspension. >> what i said was extremely hurtful and i would fully understand if i was never allowed to race another nascar race again, but i hope i will get that opportunity to race with them. >> and he says he will make the most of this opportunity and he looks forward to the future. >> i'm glad he's back.
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before people judge and start slamming kyle larson, a, you have to put it in context and look at the whole story before you judge. clearly lesson learned. i'm so glad the cancel culture didn't work this time. he deserves a second chance. >> he said i've done a lot of reflecting and there's no excuse for my ignorance. >> you go, kyle larson. a nasa spacecraft carried out a historic mission on the surface of an asteroid more than 200 million miles from earth. >> we're going in. we're going in! >> touchdown declared. >> man, god bless the folks at nasa. they're so excited when they see something like this. the agency's o'cyrus rex spacecraft touched down on a large asteroid yesterday intending to scoop up some rocks and dust from its surface. the spacecraft orbited for two years waiting for the perfect moment. they hope the samples will have new evidence of how our universe was formed. >> can we underline this, 200 million miles away.
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>> it's crazy. >> crazy. and it literally dropped down for a few seconds and grabbed a few ounces and they won't be back until 2023. >> but, the dna of the universe is in that dust. >> it's exciting to see the nasa people get excited. i don't know why that's so thrilling but it is. >> high fiving each other, it's amazing. really, really cool. y'all have a hard time waking up in the morning? >> yes. >> maybe you need this guy. watch. ♪ >> so he's basically singing. ♪ you're late for work >> that's so, so good. i've got to let this play. >> oh, man, so good. >> is that her husband? >> we don't know.
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it's probably just a housemate or something. his name is yx on tiktok. he definitely came through for p woman. it appears to do the trick. she is not happy. please give him a record deal. >> the first five seconds would be terrifying but after that it would be okay. ahead, we'll go back to tony for more on the presidential race in pennsylvania. stay with us, we'll be right back. everyone remembers the moment they heard... ..."you have cancer." how their world stopped and when they found a way to face it.
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♪ ♪ it's wednesday, october 21st, 2020. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm tony dokoupil with gayle king and anthony mason. battleground, pennsylvania. the pandemic and economy are front center and a surprise state in the election. see what is behind the passion of mr. trump's supporters. >> the fight for suburban women, they are a big focus for both campaigns in pennsylvania and nationwide too. anthony has got a frank conversation with a panel of voters from suburban, philadelphia. dave matthews sivek duty. we will ask him why is he campaigning to get out the vote in campaign 2020. here is idea's eye opener at 8:00. >> we are going to win the commonwealth of pennsylvania and we are going to win four more
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years. >> my coach used to say in college it's go time. this is the most important election in our lifetime. >> when we vote, we win! they know when we vote, that we vote for justice! >> remember, friends don't let friends vote alone. bring a family member! bring a friend! bring a coworker and vote for four more years of president donald trump in the white house. >> all of my friends who never really get into politic are all in it right now. they are going to vote and going to register. >> why does this year matter so much to you? >> where the country is right now. i see the country divided. i don't like that. >> one of the last chances to influence the race is this thursday's presidential debate. we hear at "the late show" will be there live. there it is live with in-depth political analysis and extensive coverage of whatever flying creature happens to steal a
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show. my money on a fruit bat banged on kristen welker. >> that is in two days. we be live too, stephen colbert. welcome back to "cbs this morning." less than two weeks from election day. 13 days. more than 37 million americans have reportedly cast their ballot. so we are dedicating this hour to talking with the voters. as part of our series we wanted to find out how they are feeling about the candidates and key issues most important to them. >> this week, tony has visited three critical battleground states beginning with michigan and ohio. this morning, he joins us from erie county, pennsylvania, a county that helped president trump flip that swing state in 2016. tony, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. guys, it's been a 1,200 mile journey and our final stop. president trump promised votes in pennsylvania and nationwide he would remake america a manufacturing super power.
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the facts are the u.s. trails china and despite some job gains in manufacturing nationally, the president has seen it wiped out because the pandemic. he won pennsylvania in 2016 is now trailing democratic nominee joe biden 53% to 36% according to the latest battleground tracker of nbc news. hillary clinton held an advantage around this same time and that vanished by election day so this is still close. last night, we attended a trump rally here in erie where a sea of trump supporters came out. later in this half hour, we will hear from some of those people and get their thoughts about the election. as i send it back to you, i will leave you one final remark. there is a lot of fact checking of the president and a lot of data suggesting he hasn't made good on all of his promises. when you talk to his supporters you realize their support is not
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about any number or any particular fact. it is really about a feeling. >> well, they are very passionate and i can't wait to see that report. thank you. it's looking less likely a coronavirus deal will be reached from election day. house speaker nancy pelosi and secretary mnuchin agreed to get together and continue the talks. we have past the proposed dlo p deadline. if a deal is reached the senate would consider it but privately he taking it seems a different proper. mcconnell said he is warning the white house not to back a deal with pelosi and said it could divide republicans during the supreme court fight. we asked a panel of women in the philadelphia suburbs how they feel before the election. how many of you think of this country at a crossroad? hands? three? >> i owned a business when he was elected and people found out
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that i voted for trump and they tore down my business sign. i also had several emails of clients saying you're completely racist, how could you vote for someone like this? it really affected my business a lot. to me that was inappropriate. >> i can relate to you. my dear, because that is inappropriate. you are a person. you're a business owner. your political party has nothing to do with you running your business in a proper manner. and i can relate because people do that to me based on my skin color. >> coming up, how the presidential and vice presidential
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erie, pennsylvania. you can only vote once in the election but those who may be casting a ballot with president trump may being with more passion. a poll founds that voters back their candidate despite joe biden supporters who are leading toward opposition to president trump. we talked to members of the crowd at mr. trump's rally last night here in erie. how are you doing, guys? if donald trump doesn't get four more years it will be on the strength of voters like these. >> trump is a real patriot. so am i. so if you don't like patriots you won't like him. >> he is a man who wants to do it all for america. the best he can. >> reporter: a silent majority as the president calls them. >> he has done a lot for the military, for international affairs, all of the things that they say he is not the good it,
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he seems to be pretty darn good at. >> outside of his rally in erie, pennsylvania, they are not so silent. neither are their outfits. among the vendors selling trump gear, one particular phrase, not affiliated with the campaign has caught our attention. it's emblazoned to cross mugs and face coverings and t-shirts. >> if you don't like trump, you don't like me and i'm okay with that. do you agree? >> hell yeah. hell yeah. >> you won't like me if you don't like trump because everything he is, i am. >> i like trump and i know people hate me for it. >> reporter: really? >> yes. >> reporter: if you don't like trump, you probably don't like me. >> i'm totally with that. i'm deplorable. >> reporter: to really understand the president's appeal to his staunchest supporters you have to remember the promise of his victory speech. >> the forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. >> reporter: if maybe you didn't know who the president was talking about, well, his
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supporters sure did. >> he is talking about all of us! everybody that is not elite. if you look around it's all regular people. we were never represented with the republicans or the democrats. >> i think he was talking about a lot of needs of, you know, the average person, what they would call the flyover country. >> reporter: with them it's about jobs. >> in 2010 to 2012, i was living paycheck-to-imprk a paycheck-to-paycheck but now i have money in the bank. >> we are completely irrelevant to the democratic party except for voting time. otherwise, they could care less about any of us. >> reporter: above all, recognition. >> i would rather let him tell me what he thinks but do the job than getting good words from politicians and when they are in power, they will turn around and back stop everybody. >> reporter: if you felt forgotten in 2016, how do you feel now? >> i feel great and i hope he
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gets another four years. >> forgotten in 2010? 2008? >> 2012 you felt forgotten? >> how do you feel now? >> great. >> as we travel through these battleground states, trump has a message with a crowd than you can forgot. >> thank you, pennsylvania. go out and vote. >> reporter: did you vote for him in 2016? >> yes. >> reporter: are you going to do it again? >> yes. >> reporter: your number one reason is? >> the economy. >> reporter: what is in the back of this truck? >> my job and my freedom and my rights. >> reporter: are you going to be a first-time voter this time voting for trump? >> yes. >> reporter: what exactly pushed you over the line? >> one life. i want to do something and he is going to make a difference. >> reporter: how do you think he is going to do on election day? >> i think he is going to win, man. >> reporter: that man there at the end, darren byrd, is one of
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at least black trump supporters that we melt along our journey and one of them told us that he believes there are a lot more out there. he calls them shy trump supporters. among the african-american community. however, cbs polling shows that only about 1 in 10 black americans consider themselves to be a likely trump voter, guys. you know, a big reason for that was made clear to us when we got a visit on set yesterday in dayton, ohio, in the middle of our show, a black father of five sons came up and said he was voting for joe biden and the big reason was concern about the safety of his children. >> very interesting. >> everybody has a reason. but it's just a reminder to me that people want to be heard. >> yes. >> and they want validation and what i hear from that -- the interview that you did with the trump voters, they feel that donald trump hears them and validates them and that is what everybody wants. >> it's something i've been hearing from middle class voters for years is they felt forgotten by both parties and trump as an outsider represented something new and you hear it in those
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voices and most of those trump supporters are not shy as we saw, tony. >> most of them are loud' proud. >> reporter: they are loud and proud and for them, it's about jobs, sure, but it's also about respect and, above all, about recognition as you guys point out. >> all right. >> tony, thank you. ahead, we will talk with political strategist joel payne and leslie sanchez about the race in battleground states and whether it's tightening and the impact on senate races. you're watching "cbs this morning" as we continue our certifies "at measure's crossroads."
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as we continue our special coverage "at america's crossroads," our cbs news battleground tracker shows that former vice president joe biden has an electoral edge over president trump. six states and 96 electoral votes are currently toss-ups for the presidential election. 270 are needed to win.
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democratic strategist and cbs news political contributor joel payne and republican strategist and cbs news political analyst leslie sanchez join us now. good morning to both of you. leslie, i want to start with you. the president here last night said if we win pennsylvania, we're going to win the white house. do you think that's true? do we have leslie? joel, we'll jump to you then. >> yes. we might have lost leslie. joel, i'm jump to you with that sme question. the president says if he wins pennsylvania, he's going to win the whole thing, the whole shebang. first of all, is that true in your view? and second of all, what's different now in 2020 compared to 2016? >> pennsylvania is very central to his win strategy, he's got to hold that state. the problem for trump is that
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there are no places -- he's got to defend everything and he can't go after states like minnesota, colorado, virginia, those states where maybe republicans were looking to gain. so i think the president has to hold those states and i also think what we're going to see here is the president try to run the same strategy that he did four years ago, which is really focus on the upper midwest and really focus on turning out rural voters. not sure if it's going to work, but that's obviously the playbook the president is going to run again. >> joel, let's talk about being not sure if it's going to work. people forget that the majority of voters across the industrial midwest in places like michigan, ohio, where we are now in pennsylvania, are actually white, noncollege educated voters, in other words, working class voters. has the president done enough to connect with those voters or, put another way, has he done enough to motivate more urban voters to come out and vote against him? how is that math going to work for the president this time around? >> i think the president certainly has a cultural connection to those voters and i think he's counting on that
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working out for him as a turnout strategy. but i think what the president also misses is that this has flipped on him in terms of those type of populations that traditionally support him, seniors, white voters. the margins are a lot closer with joe biden. in fact in some cases biden is winning with those voters. whereas the president was dominating hillary clinton four years ago in some of those categories, the script is completely flipped this time around. >> all right, joel, i'm told we have leslie back. leslie, if you can hear me. >> i do. >> the president -- thank you, i'm glad. welcome to live tv, america. the president in 2016, for all the general chaos and the newness of his campaign, he had a disciplined message down the closing stretch. this time some are saying he doesn't, he's attacking lesley stahl, he's attacking anthony fauci. how do you think what could be a lack of discipline in his messaging may impact the vote this year? >> what's interesting about that, if you listen to him last night and the package right
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before here when you're talking about the forgotten man, a lot of that galvanized or in many cases activated this blue collar nation. and that idea was that there are so many voters and they said it themselves who weren't connected to republicans or democrats, but heard the message of this outsider, this unorthodox approach, and they want it to get on the bandwagon. they're still with the president. he's activating it again right now in the sense of talking about his accomplishments and kind of sticking to that line. but i would tell you, tony, the debate coming up and how well the president can stick to that message and going back to energizing, especially those particular states, is really going to determine whether he can close that gap coming to election day. >> leslie, one of the more fascinating dynamics of this election cycle is that the president turns out to be a great motivator but for both sides. so his supporters want to vote for him and joe biden's supporters want to vote against president trump. talk to me about that dynamic and who it benefits.
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>> you know, in this case -- so 2016 was just kind of happenstance that the president was able to do that. you were talking about 78,000 votes out of 137 million that really made the decision up in those rust belt states. what now is -- it's a much more articulated machine, not only in data, contact, your cell phone engagement. all of those tools that both campaigns are using, they're using with these messages, so the air war, the tactical war in terms of campaign tactics may turn out to be extremely effective. for the president, a lot of these are these floating voters. in europe they call them floating voters, people who are on the rolls but only turn out once or twice to vote. yeah, once or twice in their lifetime they may vote. that's what the president is looking for is to really make a strategy out of pulling them into 2020. >> yeah, turnout is always what is consequential and ultimately decisive. could be essy but
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." as we continue our series "at america's crossroads," we've dedicated this hour to talking with voters about the issues and the candidates leading up to the election. pennsylvania will play a critical role in deciding who becomes president. president trump won the state by less than 1 percentage point back in 2016. last week while visiting western pennsylvania, he urged a key constituency to vote for him. >> suburban women, will you please like me? please. please. i saved your damn neighborhood, okay? the other thing, i don't have that much time to be that nice. >> so we met up with six women from the philadelphia suburbs at a gym in plymouth meeting. we talked with most of them before and wanted to have one final conversation before the election. >> hi, my name is charrele.
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i am a registered democrat and i'm not sure who i'm voting for. >> my name is cynthia, i'm a registered republican but i'm actually an independent, and the likelihood is i'll be voting for biden. >> hi, my name is hannah and i am a conservative republican. this year i am voting for trump. >> my name is melinda. for many years i was registered as a republican. in 2018, i was a democrat and i will be voting for joe biden. >> my name is debbie. i'm a registered democrat and i'll be voting for biden. >> my name is michelle, i'm a registered republican and i am voting for donald trump. >> how many of you watched the debate? everybody. in a word, what was your reaction to it? >> chaos. total chaos. and they were acting like 3 and 4-year-olds. >> michelle, what did you think of it? >> embarrassing on both parts, both sides. >> i was screaming at the tv. like just stop, stop!
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>> joe biden knows better, i think. because i'm a democrat, i'm going to err on the side of joe biden, but i'm not sure who i'm voting for. but he had the opportunity to really show how poised he was, how presidential he could be and he did not do that. >> didn't satisfy you at all. >> it did not satisfy me at all. it made me confused. i knew who i was voting for two months ago. i don't know now. i uncovered some really dark stuff about joe biden that is just as divisive as trump. >> i wanted to say i really think the pence/harris debate was much more understandable. they said nice things about each other. >> harris would make me vote for biden. they were courteous to each other as much as possible. >> even though she said at times, i'm speaking? >> yeah. >> when he attempted to interrupt her. >> well, he let her then. >> i felt like pence was such a
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class act. i loved how he presented himself and he was very respectful to kamala. i felt like she was more condescending in her responses. when she kept saying i'm talking, i'm talking, i felt like she was putting herself in a victim mode and trying to get sympathy from voters. >> she had a terrific opportunity to show that she's presidential because i would have to say for just about every republican, we don't feel that biden will serve out the four years and she really turned me off. maybe as a woman i expected more out of her, i expected more of a feminine approach, so -- >> i think kamala harris was powerful. she said what she wanted, she stuck to the points. she was very laid back and mild mannered. when she needed to speak and be heard, she said so. >> the president has been making an issue of the behavior of joe
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biden's son, hunter. is that resonating with anyone? michelle? >> absolutely. i'm concerned if biden got into office that, you know, if something happened with his son or things start coming out, then he's going to defend his son. he's not going to be defending the country. i wouldn't. >> cynthia? >> hunter biden has always been an issue for me quite honestly. his behavior is very questionable. having said that, i'm as concerned about hunter biden as i am about the trump children. >> let's deal with facts also. if there's an investigation going in or there's more material that has to come out, okay, then let's deal with it when it does. what we do know is trump's -- all the things that he's done and his family has done that's been really against the law, has been corrupt, has not been above board. >> since we last spoke, the
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president contracted the coronavirus. >> he was a sitting duck to get it from my perspective. what i had thought possibly post-infection he would have been a little more careful in how he presented himself in public. but none of that happened. >> i do think he exposed himself and he shouldn't have. however, i don't need someone to tell me to wear a mask. give me the facts, let me as a grown adult make those decisions. >> i have seen masks divide my community, divide my church, and yet again we have like another thing that's going to cause other people to shame other people. are you wearing it, are you not wearing it? >> the thing that really got me is he was given this cocktail that only ten people in the united states get but then all of a sudden he says, well, i'm going to make sure everybody in america can get it. yeah, right. that's not going to happen. >> how important is a stimulus
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package vote to you all? >> i think the stimulus is extremely important. i'm a fiscal conservative. the reason i say that is because people are hurting. >> michelle, you got laid off, yes? >> i lost my job during covid, and i am using this opportunity like everybody is re-evaluating life and what makes you happy and what's important. >> how does that affect your view about a stimulus package? >> it's needed. >> at minimum, relief for those who don't have a job, can't pay their rent, can't feed their families. these are fellow americans. they need this help now. >> as we approach election day, give me one word or sentence about how you're feeling. debbie? >> i'm a little bit on edge to see what happens. >> melinda? >> weary. >> cynthia? >> great sense of curiosity. personally, i think it can go either way.
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>> we should note president trump and his allies have repeatedly tried to tie hunter biden allegations to his father, joe biden, but a recent republican-led senate investigation found that while hunter biden's actions were problematic, it did not accuse the former vice president of any wrongdoing. >> it was a powerhouse panel of women. >> all very, very thoughtful women. interesting they all watched the debates and they all want a stimulus and they are all of them very nervous about what's going on. >> i like what she said, it could go either way. i think that's how most people feel, it could go either way, but a lot of people feeling on edge, a lot of people feeling very much on edge. >> you were going to say, tony? >> people are feeling on edge. i like that dichotomy between one woman who said she was weary and another woman who said she was curious. i think that's the spectrum we have right now. we're looking for results and we've still got two weeks before election day and then some, we'll be in that overtime period. it's also fascinating when you
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talk about suburban women how they view the president's decorum. we've been talking four years now about whether the president would make a turn and become, quote, more presidential. there were a lot of false moments where he supposedly changed his tone but he always reverted back. that feeling of watching a reality tv show, a trump show is something that i heard from voters in the suburbs. you can hear it underneath the answers that you got as well, anthony. it could be decisive in terms of turnout and the direction of turnout in the suburbs. >> that's where some of that fatigue comes from, tony, thanks. with less than two weeks until election day, music superstar dave matthews will join us to talk about his mission to make sure americans are ready to vote. why he does not take his
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♪ you don't need to prove a thing to me ♪ ♪ come on save me, save me mr. walking man ♪ >> nobody sounds like that. that's grammy-winning alterirti dave matthews. recently returned to the stage at a crowdless set. now he's making sure americans are all set to vote in 13 days. matthews joins big names like cardi b, billie eilish, and ariana grande working with a nonpartisan group called head
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count to raise voter awareness. they have registered nearly half a million people to vote in this election. dave matthews supports the biden campaign and has appeared at campaign events. right now he joins us from good old charlottesville. dave matthews, good to see you. we had john grisham on the other day who's also from charlottesville so you've got some nice people in charlottesville, virginia. welcome to "cbs this morning." >> . >> thank you. thank you very much for having me. yeah, there's a lot of good people here. he and i are, you know, fair weather friends. we hang out when we can. but this is a great town. it's got a great spirit. >> i think so too. you've got good restaurants. but listen, dave, supporters on both sides say this is the most important election in history. the country is at stake here. so i'm wondering when you hear that what that means to you because you've made it very clear what voting means to you, how important it is. so i want to hear why that is for you and what's your message
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to others who are still like i don't know. why do you think it's so important? >> i think this is -- i'll be as quick as i can because i know we don't have a lot of time. but i lived some of my life, i was born in south africa and sort of between the two countries i became -- i moved to america when i was quite young but was back and forth. the year that mandela was elected, which was the first free and open election in south africa, 95% of the population, more than 95% of the population got out to vote. these are people who, you know, would have to walk many miles in some cases to get to a polling station. and it showed me something because in america, we get excited if -- you know, if 50% of the eligible voters come out. and it's just -- it's just when we become sort of indifferent because there's things to do. i'd rather go -- for me it's deeply upsetting because we're not taking advantage of our own
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future. we're notif a minute amount of come out and have their voices heard. i just think it's much more important than a lot of people feel it is. i think a free society is important. >> dave, it's anthony mason. you worked with head count for more than a decade to get young people to vote. are you surprised at the number, like 60% are expected to turn out. >> but that's better than it's been, you know. i look at how eagerly my kids, my daughters are first-time voters at least this year, and i'm looking at them and their friends and how all of those -- how excited they are. so i at least -- i know that it's not -- it's imperfect, but i do have hope that we can increase it. and organizations like head
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count will make it possible, you know, to get more and more young people. if we can get more and more people in the public eye to speak about this, in all lines of work, people should be encouraging young people and people that are sort of on the fence about its importance to make your voices heard. we need to also make it easier for people to vote, not harder. that's a central part of my motivation. it should be effortless, it should be a day off, we should be celebrating. and i want to also remind people that are looking at election day going what a nightmare, get in lines on november 3rd. in most states you can already be voting. in most states you can already go to a polling station. make sure you're registered and go to a polling station. it's a little late now for mail-in ballots, but maybe some places you can do it. but i would hesitate to do that at this point because there's going to be some controversy about that. but vote now. november 3rd is the last day of the election.
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it's not the election day, you know. it's the last day. >> that's a very good point. >> have you already voted, dave matthews? >> i have. i have voted and my family have voted. >> i'm waiting for election day. but i'm curious, you mentioned your kids who are going to be voting. most rock star kids don't think that their parents are cool, they just see you at dad. so who do your kids think are cool when it comes to music? >> they have my favorite, although, you know, he's not necessarily brand new, but he's certainly younger than me. people like frank ocean. my kids have really good taste in music. that just popped to mind because my daughter was playing me a frank ocean tune last night and every time i hear his voice, i kid of fall in love. but they turn me on to a lot of new music, music i wouldn't find myself because i live in a hole. they throw me some culture every once in a while. >> i say thank goodness for the
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children. >> it's good when the kids become the educators. dave matthews, thank you for being with us this morning. the message is get out and vote. we'll be right back. >> indeed, thank you. woman 1: get your vote-by-mail ballot? woman 2: you can stay healthy and fill it out from the safety of home.
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surfer: or you can fill it out anywhere. man 1: it's easy to mail it back. you don't even need a stamp. man 2: or you can use an official drop box. woman 3: you can even drop it off at the polls. man 3: then, track it to confirm your county got it. see? they got it! woman 4: mail ballots are the simple, safe, and secure way to ensure that your vote is counted.
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