>> look at you. cbs this morning is up next. have a great day, everyone. ♪ good morning to you, our viewers in the west. welcome to "cbs this morning" on this friday. tgif. october 23rd, 2020. i'll gayle king with anthony mason and tony dokoupil. president trump and joe biden clashed in a contentious but mostly civil debate. the final presidential showdown revealed how far apart these candidates are on key issues like the pandemic and personal ethics. just 11 days before election day. >> we'll also have full analysis on what this face-off means for the final sprint to the finish and what issues could still sway undecided voters. plus, our conversations with a key voting group both candidates are trying to win over. >> new coronavirus cases hit their fourth highest daily number since the covid crisis began. the reasons for this new surge and a look at the first

treatment approved in the u.s. to help the very sick. and the words of ghislaine maxwell. new testimony is unsealed from jeffrey epstein's accused accomplice. what we're learning about her past. >> but first, here's today's "eye opener." it's your world in 90 seconds. >> you know who i am. you know who he is. you know his character. you know my character. character of the country is on the ballot. >> you keep talking about all these things you're going to do and you're going to do this. you know, joe, i ran because of you. i ran because of barack obama. because you did a poor job. >> gayle, you called it. you said this would be a different president trump tonight. >> i think both of them can walk out tonight and say i did very well. >> this was an actual debate. >> president trump made good on his threat and posted the white house recording of the "60 minutes" interview he ended abruptly. >> that's enough. let's go. >> started packing. after the cops came, it was a mad rush. >> colorado is seeing

unprecedented wildfires, burning simultaneously and threatening to merge. >> plan for the worst. this is the worst of the worst of the worst. remdesivir is the first drug in the u.s. to be fda approved for treating coronavirus infections. >> eagles taking on the giants. >> absolutely all alone, and he trips. >> and all that matters. >> of course, tonight it was the final presidential debate. >> they kept things in check. >> trump always finds a way to work himself in. >> we're in a circumstance where the president, thus far, still has no plan. no comprehensive plan. >> on cbs this morning. >> in response to trump's attacks on biden's family, it finally happened. >> there's a reason why he's bringing up all this mularkey. >> boom! the first malarkey of the night.

let's check my punch card here. the frequent malarkey card right here. that's number one. five more and i get a free sub. >> this morning's eye opener is presented by progressive. making it easy to bundle insurance. >> i'm thinking the word malarkey is going to be on a t-shirt sooner rather than later. >> he said malarkey last night. >> i believe it already is. it's already there on t-shirts. >> i'm late to the party. welcome back, gayle, after a late night last night. i'm spending too much time at home and you're not spending enough. >> i didn't get home until 1:45, but i'm not complaining. i'm just very glad it's friday. and welcome to "cbs this morning." tony is joining us from home. why are you at home again, tony? >> an abundance of caution because i was on the road covering voters. i'll see you again on monday. >> we look forward to that. we'll begin with last night's showdown. did you stay up to watch between president trump and joe biden?

the candidates very different styles were on display big time from the first moments when a maskless president trump and a fully masked joe biden walked onto the stage. now this led to the first topic of the night, the coronavirus pandemic that has killed, by the way, more than 220,000 people in this country. >> but overall, the tone was more civil in nashville than during the first debate. however, still plenty of fiery exchanges over two starkly different versions of america. we'll break it down with john dickerson and nikole killion. it was a different tone this time around, wasn't it? >> good morning. both campaigns are declaring victory, even though the candidates went after each other last night. the mute button was barely used, allowing for a calmer and more substantive debate. >> i've been congratulated by

the heads of many countries on what we've been able to do. >> as covid cases rise across the country, president trump praised his administration's response and teased a vaccine. >> we have a vaccine that's coming. it's ready. it's going to be announced within weeks. and it's going to be delivered. >> he has no clear plan, and there's no prospect that there's going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the american people before the middle of next year. >> the former vice president tore into the president's handling of the pandemic. pointing to the more than 220,000 americans who have died. >> anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the united states of america. >> the two argued over reopening the economy. >> there's not another serious scientist in the world who thinks it's going to be over soon. >> i didn't say over soon. i said we're learning to live with it. we have no choice. we can't lock ourselves up in a basement like joe does. >> learning to live with it? we're dying with it. >> i take full responsibility. it's not my fault that it came

here. >> reporter: biden charged the president was not being stronger against russia as intelligence officials said both russia and iran are attempting to interfere in the election. >> i don't understand why this president is unwilling to take on putin. any country that interferes with us will, in fact, pay a price because they are affecting our sovereignty. >> reporter: while president trump repeated his allegations about biden and his family. >> your family got $3.5 million. some day you'll have to explain why did you get 3.5. i never got any money rom from russia. >> i've not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever. >> reporter: biden accused the president of trying to distract. >> there's a reason why he's bringing up all this malarkey. there's a reason for it. he doesn't want to talk about the substantive issues. it's not about his family and my family. it's about your family. and your family is hurting badly. if you are making less than -- if you are a middle class family, you are getting hurt badly right now.

you are sitting at the kitchen table this morning deciding, we can't get new tires. they're bald because we have to wait another month. or are we going to be able to pay the mortgage? >> that's a political statement. let's get off this china thing and then he looks, the family around the table. just the typical politician when i see -- >> let's talk about -- >> i'm not a typical politician. that's why i got elected. >> reporter: the president claimed he was preparing a health care plan. >> i'd like to terminate obamacare, and come up with a brand-new, beautiful health care. >> i guess we'll get the pre-existing condition plan the same time we get the infrastructure plan. >> reporter: president trump was asked if his administration has a plan to reunite children separated from their parents at the border. >> yes, we're working on it very -- we're trying very hard. but a lot of these kid comes out without the parents. they come over through cartels and coyotes and through gangs. >> biden called the policy criminal. >> what happened? parents were ripped -- their kids were ripped from their arms and separated. and now they cannot find over

500 sets of those parents and those kids are alone. nowhere to go. >> they are so well taken care of. they are in facilities that were so clean. >> reporter: the president who at the last debate did not denounce white supremacy was pressed about his rhetoric on race. >> i am the least racist person. i can't even see the audience because it's so dark, but i don't care who is in the audience. i'm the least racist person in this room. >> the president pushed biden on his plans on energy and the environment. >> would you close down the -- >> i would transition from the oil industry, yes. >> oh, that's -- >> i would transition. >> that's a big statement. >> it is. because i would -- >> why would you do that? >> because the oil industry pollutes significantly. >> i see. >> here's the deal. >> that's a big statement. >> if you let me finish the statement because it has to be replaced by renewable energy. over time. over time. >> reporter: biden later clarified he doesn't want to get rid of fossil fuels. he wants to get rid of subsidies

but the trump campaign seized on his initial comments calling them a grave error. today biden is back in delaware where he is delivering remarks on the pandemic and the economy. president trump is campaigning in battleground florida. >> nikole, thank you. cbs news senior political analyst and "60 minutes" correspondent john dickerson joins us with "face the nation" moderator margaret brennan. the debate was more civil, more substantive, but did it move the needle for either candidate, do you think? >> i don't think so, anthony. usually what political scientists will tell you is the needle only moves when somebody has a big gaffe, like the president's behavior in the first debate. the polls showed us people didn't like him constantly interrupting. in this case, both sides can claim something for their side. but in a field where joe biden is leading nationally and in the

battleground states and where the president is having trouble with the coalition that elected him in 2016, a debate where there's not any big win for him or a big loss for joe biden is not what the president needs with the election a little more than a week away. >> margaret, our cbs poll shows more people trust biden to handle the coronavirus than president trump. and it is the biggest issue. so did president trump pick up any ground or prove his case, do you think, in the debate last night. >> well, anthony, there are about 76,000 new infections yesterday alone. 41,000 americans hospitalized. it's according to the covid-19 tracking project. so the power of positive thinking isn't going to change those facts when the president says the country is rounding the corner. at best, you can say, well, maybe he's talking about an improved chance of survival if you get sick. but as joe biden has consistently argued, he wants this to be the measuring stick for the trump presidency. arguing that the president failed to keep americans safe,

which is the first order of business for any american president. president trump continues to repeat this mantra that basically it could have been worse. so joe biden, i think he had a phrase last night that we're entering a very dark winter. he painted a picture of america entering a scary phase, reminding the public that they are still very much at risk. and i think really tried to undercut the president's case that it's somehow behind us. >> john, one of the president's most prominent lines of attack last night was to try to paint joe biden as corrupt. he again brought up unverified accusations about hunter biden's financial dealings. how prominent an issue do you think this is for voters? how much do you think it matters? >> i don't think it matters a great deal with voters and it's risky for the president who has if you use the standard he is using with the biden family to look at his own conflicts between his personal business dealings and also the reporting, again, using the standard he

uses for the biden family of debts he still owes to foreign entities, you would think this would be ground he would stay off of. but he's not trying to win a virtue contest here. he's basically trying to strip down joe biden's view or people's views about joe biden more broadly. the problem is, margaret pointed out, that joe biden has an ally in the news cycle which is, if president trump tries to shift the turf under the biden family, for the purposes of muddying joe biden, the news cycle keeps returning to the central piece of this campaign which is coronavirus and the president's response to it and the country has a very negative view of that. and as these numbers continue, it keeps voters focused on that very bad issue for the president. >> one moment that stood out to me, guys, was when the president said, it was in nikole's piece that he's the least racist person in the room. normally a comment like that is followed by, you know, my cousin is married to a black guy and i've got several black friends. what did you all make of that

moment? >> well, clearly the polls have shown that the country has disapproved of the president's response to the protests in america, in the wake of george floyd's death and a variety of other cases. and so the president, it's not just the statement on its own, on its face has some significant challenges, including that the president was the chief birther for five years challenging barack obama's legitimacy to be president. so he has his own personal issues with that and the central park five and so forth. but he also has realtime challenges with voters who think he had an insufficient response to what they think is a valid set of questions about equality and equity in america. >> margaret, officials were warning -- >> and i think, gayle -- >> go ahead. sorry. >> i think, gayle, one of the things that is troubling to some is that label itself of racist. you consistently hear when you have polling done or reporters

go out to white working class america and say, hey, you voted for barack obama. why did you abandon democrats and vote for donald trump this time? you often hear that phrase of, well, i don't like being told that the way i'm living is wrong and this connection somehow back to race. and as condoleezza rice has said, that term alone shuts down conversation. president trump continues to use that phrase, least racist person, as if it's a way to somehow connect with people who feel that they are being marginalized. rather than recognizing the facts, as joe biden tried to lay out in his argument, that there is institutional, systematic racism within the united states. he made it more about sort of defending a way of life or something or saying don't call me a bad person versus recognizing where the country is in and of itself. it's not a winning argument for the president, but it's something he constantly comes back to as a way somehow to connect to his base.

it means something different to him than the facts that joe biden laid out. >> all right. margaret brennan, john dickerson, thank you. sunday on "face the nation" margaret will interview mike dewine, keisha lance bottoms and scott gottlieb. hear interviews with both presidential candidates and their running mates on "60 minutes." tony? >> let's get an update on the coronavirus. unfortunately, the newest coronavirus numbers show the virus is not fading away as the president claims. the u.s. recorded more than 71,000 new cases yesterday alone. that is the fourth highest daily numbers so far in the pandemic. also yesterday, the food and drug administration approved the first drug to treat covid-19, remdesivir. had been used on an emergency basis only, including president trump. he received it during his covid treatment at walter reed. the drug is meant for hospital patients only. and it's costly. it costs more than $3,000 for

one five-day course. or people with private insurance. in colorado, at least five people are unaccounted for in the worst wildfires in the state's history. the so-called east troublesome fire burned more than 200 square miles in about 24 hours in the mountains of northern colorado. the firefighter in charge of this operation says the rapid spread of the fire is unheard of in that part of the west. it's moved within ten miles of an even larger fire. and now officials are worried they could merge. omar villafranca is at the scene. >> reporter: dry conditions and strong winds fanned the flames in grand county, colorado. as fire crews raced to help contain the east troublesome fire. the fire destroyed several structures in grand lake. a security camera captured the moments before flames reached this home. matthew reed barely had time to escape before his newly built home was destroyed.

>> we've been in our house for 11 months. took three years to build it, and it's gone. >> reporter: deputies spent hours going house to house urging people to get out. >> it's hard. it's terrifying. but we have to allow these firefighters to get in there. there is so much smoke and active fire in that area right now. i can't put deputies in there. >> you can see the massive plumes of smoke behind me. thousands of feet in the air. this is now the second largest wildfire in colorado history. crews have been trying to battle the flames from the air, but high winds have made flight operations difficult. >> how do you prepare for this? >> you don't. >> reporter: kelly carnan and vince baker run a ranch with roughly 300 animals. they'll have to worry they'll have to leave their livestock behind. >> this is everything for you? >> this is everything. this is a family ranch. we've been here over 100 years. so it's -- it's pretty much

everything we've got right here. >> i pretty much plan on being here until the flames are pushing me out the driveway if that's what it comes to. >> police have set up road blocks like this one all around the fire so they can keep the roads clear for the fire crews. at last check there were more than 300 firefighters battling the east troublesome fire. and with drought conditions and high winds in the forecast, they are going to need all the help they can get. >> they will. some terrifying pictures, omar. thank you. ahead, what jeffrey epstein's close associate ghislaine maxwell said under oath when asked if she recruited

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voted in 2016. and when it comes to identifying as democrats, black men are less likely to do so than black women. 77% to 87%. nikole killion spoke with one group of black men to see where they stand. >> reporter: these men don't take their fitness or voice for granted. >> we're building health and wellness. we're also building brotherhood. >> reporter: each week, dimitrius leads runners through the streets of nashville. but it's the race for president that has this intergenerational group going the extra mile. >> tonight it's about voting and inspiring them to get out and vote. >> reporter: black men have increasingly become a coveted target of both campaigns in the run up to election day. >> show up. >> show out. >> and vote for joe biden. >> and kamala harris. >> joe biden's policies destroy millions of black lives. >> reporter: president trump and former vice present biden defended their records on race

during thursday night's debate. >> nobody has done more for the black community than donald trump. criminal justice reform. prison reform. opportunity zones. >> we have to provide for economic opportunity. better education. better health care. better access to schooling. better access to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses. >> reporter: both campaigns have unveiled specific plans appealing to the estimated 30 million eligible african-american voters. 13% of black male voters supported president trump in 2016. more than three times the rate of black women. harold rucker, a retired marine, said he didn't vote for trump or hillary clinton during the last presidential election. >> i pretty much voted for the libertarian. i couldn't see either one of those two. >> reporter: miles harris is a senior at bisque university and sometimes feels ignored by politicians. >> i don't feel like anyone took an extremely strong position to

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a newly unsealed deposition offers more insight into ghislaine maxwell. she gave sometimes evasive answers in a deposition taken as part of a civil suit by virginia dufray. she's accused of recruiting underage girls for maxwell's alleged sex trafficking ring and participating in the sex abuse herself. she has long denied any involvement in this. and mola lenghi continues to follow the case. >> reporter: according to the deposition, ghislaine maxwell says she knew jeffrey epstein

was a registered sex offender. when asked if she recruited girls on epstein's behalf she said, i don't recruit anybody and appeared disgusted saying i resent and despise the word recruit. throughout the testimony, maxwell dodged testimonies about maxwell's alleged abuse of underage girls and called epstein's accuser virginia dufray a liar. i can't think of anything i've done that is illegal. while being questioned about her initial meeting, maxwell's anger appeared to boil over and she harshly pounded the table. they allege epstein and maxwell sexually abused her when she was underage and lent her out to their friends. she said epstein was a sick pedophile but maxwell was the mastermind. >> she is even worse than epstein. she -- put it this way. epstein was pinocchio and she was gepetto.

>> pulling the strings? >> yes, pulling the strings. she had his money. he head her contacts. they made a great group that way. but ghislaine was much more conniving and smart than epstein ever was. >> reporter: at one point during the deposition, giuffre's attorney appeared to ask maxwell about the now infamous picture of giuffre and the uk's prince andrew. she said she had sex with the prince at maxwell's london home that night. the prince has denied the allegations and maxwell called the account of the incident an obvious lie. maxwell said giuffre characterized things took place in my bathroom in the bathtub itself. the tub is too small for any type of activity whatsoever. >> what was your takeaway of ghislaine as the person? >> she's really intelligent. a bit too clever. she obviously believes she should give up nothing. >> cbs news legal analyst ricky

kleman said it could create problems for ghislaine maxwell at trial. >> anything particularly damaging? >> the jury is going to wonder why she doesn't have some kind of story that is other than, everyone else is lying. in addition, pounding on the table does not get you anywhere in a criminal court. >> in a statement to cbs news, virginia giuffre's attorney said maxwell's deposition is only a fraction of the evidence against her. as more is released, they say, it will become increasingly apparent why maxwell and other epstein enablers fought so hard to keep these documents sealed. as we've reported, jeffrey epstein died by suicide while in federal prison in manhattan awaiting trial last year. meanwhile, ghislaine maxwell is in federal prison here in brooklyn. she's been here since july and is waiting for her trial which is scheduled for next year. tony? >> very interesting, mola.

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water? >> i think so. >> that's nice. >> i think so. i judge it real. >> well, we appreciate that, crystal. cool side of the pillow? >> there you go. you have so many talents. >> it's a hidden one. i didn't know i had that one. i should bottle it. i've got to figure out how to bottle that. here are a few stories we think you'll be talking about today. southwest airlines will fill the middle seat again starting in december. the airline limited the number of seats for sale for months due to the coronavirus pandemic. southwest lost more than $1 billion last quarter. the company says it's going back to its old policy based on science-based findings from trusted medical and aviation organizations. the tsa reported this week that airport checkpoints saw 1 million passengers a day for the first time since mid-march. so right now, delta is the only one keeping that middle seat open. >> thank you, delta. i just don't know about this if we're supposed to the six-foot

distancing. >> when ed was talking about how good the air filtration was. i believed him and studies back him up. but i'm so used to pulling away from people, the idea of somebody in a middle seat makes me uncomfortable. >> the cdc is asking people not to travel during the holidays. this doesn't kick in until december, but maybe just stay home. >> i know the economics are talking here, but i'm a little worried about that one. >> all right, we'll see how it goes. meanwhile, paul mccartney is set to release a new solo album. ♪ he gave his fans a sneak peek of his latest work on his instagram page. he told the bbc he was just messing around and never thought he'd be releasing an album in 2020. he recorded mccartney 3 spontaneously. paul mccartney spontaneously records an album during the covid-19 lockdown. it follows these two solo albums

you may remember from the 1970s and '80s. mccartney 1, which had "baby i'm amazed." mccartney 2 came out in the '80s and you can buy mccartney 3 on december 11th. >> i can't wait. i'm so there for it, anything he does, paul mccartney. >> he was just noodling around and decided to turn it into an album. >> i guess when you're a genius, it just comes naturally. >> i love the bbc in that same interview, because paul mccartney is 78 now. the interviewer says have you thought about the possibility that you might have played your live concert? and he said yes. i look back at the last one i did which was at dodger stadium in l.a. and we didn't have a very good night so i thought to myself, uh-oh, was that the last gig we played? it's something older musicians have to think about. >> he looks good at 78. >> this was one of the best concerts i had ever seen, this was a year ago in brooklyn. >> you went to see him? >> we went to see him. it was amazing. young and old.

it was one of the most incredible shows. >> not many guys can play -- every song they play is a hit. >> and he's funny and nice. >> he's just great. i love this idea of i'm just sitting around the studio. oh, here's a composition and here's another composition. >> the next thing you know, you've got yourself an album, mccartney 3. a 9-year-old has a sweet idea to keep any trick-or-treater safe from the coronavirus. massachusetts governor charlie baker tweeted this adorable letter. the child is excited to dress up as the incredibles. look at the handwriting. look at the handwriting and the way he wrote the letter. he's going to be -- he and his buddies are going to dress up as the incredibles. he had this advice for the governor. >> it was written with a crayon but it was quite clear. tell everybody that they should give out one large candy bar instead of those baskets of many small candy bars, because then kids won't put their hands in and fish around for them. >> no fun size.

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♪ isn't that ironic. first today's eye opener at 8:00. the candidates' very different styles were on display big time. >> both campaigns are declaring victory, even though the candidates went after each other last night. the mute button was barely used allowing for a calmer and more substantive debate. >> a debate where there is not any big win or him or a big loss for joe biden is not what the president needs with the election a little more than a week away. in colorado at least five people unaccounted for at this hour in the worst wildfires in the state's history. the east troublesome fire burned 200 square miles. >> police set up road blocks all around the fire to keep the roads clear for the fire crews. at last czech more than 300 fire fighters are battling the fire. i will represent all of you whether you vote for me or against me.

i'm going to make sure you are represent ltd. we are going to choose hope over fear. science over fiction. >> science over fiction, hope over fear, eggs over ham. moons over miami, rooty tooty, rich and fruity. >> it isn't quite that cliche, although you don't hear the word malarkey very much. >> no, that's -- haven't heard that one in a long time. >> welcome back to "cbs this morning," tony is joining us from home once again. >> hello. >> because he had that swing state road trip. we want to make sure you are safe, we are safe. we look forward to your return on monday after you take our covid test. >> yeah, going to get one of those on sunday. no malarkey there. we are just 11 days, people, 11 days from election day. last night the candidates for president met face to face for their second and final debate if what may have been their last best chance to speak directly to

american voters. last night in nashville it was a little more civil and substantial thanks in part to the new mic muting rule. president trump and joe biden sparred on the economy, racial justice, and health care. and joe biden continued to attack the president's coronavirus response. >> 220,000 americans dead. you hear nothing else i say tonight, hear this -- anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the united states of america. >> later, president trump jumped on a response from joe biden who said he would eventually stop giving federal subsidies to the oil industry while transitioning to renewable energy over time. >> i have a transition from the oil industry, yes. >> that's a big statement. >> that is a big statement. >> basically what he is saying is he is going to destroy the oil industry. remember that texas,

pennsylvania, oklahoma. >> the president used that moment to appeal to voters in energy producing states, pennsylvania and texas, will polls show close races. >> cbs news political contributors terry sullivan and jamal simmons join us now. terry worked for marco rubio in 2016. and jamal worked for hillary clinton and on barack obama's 2008 campaign. good morning. >> good morning. >> it was a real debate a real conversation. good morning to you both. i think vote he is got to see the real differences. jamal, both camps are saying my guy had a great night. can both be true? >> both can be true. >> are they true. >> but i think they are talking to very different parts of the population. >> all right. >> they are talking to very different parts of the population. vice president biden is trying to appeal to the suburban women feeling anxious about the level of rancor in society

donald trump is encouraging his voters to show up and turn out. we are seeing some success from that in some states, which is what i am hearing from a lot of analysts. president trump last night surrendered on the politics when it came to style but he resisted when it came to substance. he never showed a plan how to deal with coronavirus even though he was very different in his style of debate. >> joe biden? >> joe biden did what it's needed to do. he was out there and he really just -- you know, he presented his case, and that was the case the american public wanted to hear that he could be the one who had a plan for the american public and not get into some of the big fights that donald trump likes to get into, including about their kids when joe biden didn't attack any of trump's kids even though trump kept attacking hunter. >> do you think the muted microphone -- first a shout out to kristen welker.

i thought she guided it really with along. do you think the mic muting made a difference. >> the prospect of being muted made a difference. clearly it was a very different debate than it was a few weeks ago. but it didn't appear that it was used very often, if at all. one way or the other this was the debate that donald trump needed, the best possible outcome for him. if it is enough at this point, i don't know, but if this was the donald trump who had been campaigning the last six months i think we would be looking at an extremely different race. he prosecuted the case against joe biden and his policies in a very effective way. and it was a strong performance for him last night. >> but he keeps saying, terry, that the coronavirus is winding down. and he -- he keeps saying it is winding down while the death toll keeps climbing. do you think that's an effective strategy? because it simply isn't true that the coronavirus is winding down or that you don't need to worry about it, and don't let it dominate your life. that's just not true.

>> well, look, here's what is true. that there are facts and figures that show that the death rate is going down, the mortality rate is going down. there are positive things we are seeing with the coronavirus and we can't live our life in fear. look, i can't defend and won't try to defend different things that donald trump says about the coronavirus. but the facts are that it is less lethal in the united states than it once was. that's a good thing, we should be covering that. we should be reporting it and shouldn't be just living out of pure fear all the time. there are parts of the economy that we have to open. we do need to have schools reopen. we need to learn how to live with this awful, terrible virus in the best way possible. >> you know, jamal, the president -- >> gayle, we have -- >> go ahead. >> i was going to say, we have been through this before as a country. in 1968 there were about 17,000 americans who died in the vietnam war. there were riots and protests taking place across the country.

and lyndon johnson decided not to run for president. that was the case joe biden was trying to get to last night. everybody who presided over a situation where 220,000 americans died and he doesn't have a plan to get us out of it, to stop it, it is time to step down he likes to compare to 1968 and law and order. he may be lbj, whose time has passed. >> speaking of lbj, should maybe he be included in that, that civil rights act in 1964 seemed to be helpful to you are people, jamal. >> i think there were a few presidents who made the cut. >> what did you think when he said that. >> i think it was ridiculous. and at one point joe biden said oh, god over the open microphone. we will laugh about that in infamy.

when we hear that thing, the core of the trump presidency. he says the things that are good for him politically but not the things that are good for the american family. that's the point that i think americans are ready to get past, let's pick somebody who is going to bring the country together and not somebody who is going the keep dividing us. >> close the 50 million people they say have already voted in this race. what does each person need to do in the final stretch? it's 11 days, terry, and counting. >> you know, donald trump needs to keep prosecuting the case against joe biden that he's going to raise taxes and that president trump won't. that he's better for the economy. and that he's going to return america to being a little bit more normal sooner. that's the same thing that joe biden does n a different way he needs to continue to show that look, if you are tired of this, if you are tired of the way things are, i am the change you need. both of them have that same thing. >> terry sullivan and jamal sills on, i know we will see you again in the next 11 days. >> gayle, trimmed my beard four.

>> i noticed but i wasn't going to say anything, but i definitely noticed. >> just for you. >> thank you. i'm going to do something for you, too, terry sullivan. thank you. >> looks great, terry. thank you very much. let's get an updays on the coronavirus. public health officials reported more than 71,000 new cases of the coronavirus yesterday alone, the fourth highest single day total in american history on the same day the fda approved remdesivir as a treatment drug. study showed that it cut patients' recovery time by five days. good news. it did not find a significant decrease in users' risk of death. >> up to now, it was only authorized by emergency use. president trump took it as part of his treatment earlier this month. our doctor david egg he is calls it a turning point in the status

of drugs used to treat the disease. >> as a checkmark that it is fully fda approved rather than just for emergency use. me as a doctor, i could prescribe it the same way i did yesterday and tomorrow with no difference. >> remdesivir is only supposed to be used on patients who are in the hospital. next week, we'll look at if american is ready for a coronavirus vaccine. in a series of reports we call road to vaccine, we will ask americans if they would take a vaccine and explore the major challenges in distributing it. we will also hear from operation warp speed's director in charge of supply, production, and distribution. our special series beginsen monday here on "cbs this morning." ahead an up close look at america through the lens of a documentary filmmaker, alexandra pelosi. yep, the name sounds familiar for a reason. she tells us what she learned from her

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the parents of a missing florida woman are taking the investigation into their own hands. 24-year-old jennifer kesse disappeared from her orlando condo nearly 15 years ago. there have been no arrests or named suspects. her parents sued the orlando police department for a copy of their daughter's case file and reached a settlement last year. now, with the files in hand, they hope to solve the case. peter vanzant reports from this week's "48 hours." >> reporter: this phantom figure remains the most important clue in the disappearance of jennifer kesse, who vanished on january 24th, 2006. >> i think of her all the time. >> reporter: lauren mccarthy was jennifer's best friend. >> the greatest friend i've ever had. >> reporter: two days after

jennifer went missing, her car was found in an apartment complex parking lot about a mile away from where she lived, but there was no sign of jennifer and no conclusive dna. this video showed a person parking her car at noon on the day she disappeared. >> it was like being hit with a ton of bricks. >> reporter: the phantom figure walked away in the direction of jennifer's complex. >> the person was so casual. something really bad obviously happened and they were just so casually dropping this car off, like they were, you know, getting home from work. >> reporter: but the person could not be identified because the surveillance video captured a photo every three seconds, and each time, the figure's face was obstructed by a fence post. after years of having no solid leads -- >> now it's our turn. >> reporter: -- in 2017 the

kesses recruited private investigator michael torretta to help them conduct their own investigation. torretta learned from speaking with people who lived in jennifer's complex that construction workers were living in an empty apartment just across from jennifer. he believes they were laying carpet the day she disappeared. >> so what i'm thinking is jennifer comes out and then is abducted from those individuals across the way. she's locking the door and never sees it coming. >> reporter: he also learned that ten months after jennifer disappeared, a person was seen dumping a rolled-up piece of carpet into a lake not far from her condo. but last year when police searched the lake, no carpet was found. >> this is something that is haunting me. we need to see what's inside that carpet. >> and peter vanzant joins us now. peter, good morning. first, i can't imagine being the parent of a daughter who disappeared 15 years ago and having to conduct my own investigation. this is an amazing story.

have police been able to identify any of the construction workers who lived across the way? >> not as yet. when jennifer was living in that building, it was going through a conversion from apartments to condominiums. many of the laborers were day workers, and some may have been undocumented. and they basically disappeared after jennifer vanished. part of this hope that we have is that someone will come forward with a name or names after they see this report. >> yeah. and what about that eerie phantom figure in the parking lot, any possible identity on that person? >> we have had people, which you'll hear in the course of our report, who think, well, this could be this person or that. but as of now, that's been enhanced by nasa, it's been studied incredibly. they're not even quite sure if it's male or female. i see a man in that picture, but again, they're hoping that people will recognize the

person -- the figure, the man, i think it's a man, has a mullet in the back, thin, walking across. and he was walking from the car to the construction site, so that's why they think perhaps it's one of the workers that was doing the remodeling at the condo complex. >> peter vanzant, thanks so much, peter. you can see peter's report "where is jennifer kesse" on "48 hours" tomorrow night at 10:00/9:00 central right here on cbs. you're watching "cbs this morning."

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welcome back to "cbs this morning." it is now that time to bring you some of the stories that are talk of the table this morning. you know the drill. welcome back to "cbs this morning." it is now time to bring you some of the stories that are talk of the table. ethiopia, you first. >> viola smith has died one month before her 108th birthday. she was one of the first professional female drummers. ♪ into that's viola performing in 1939 with frances carroll and the cogets. an all female orchard park strat. in 1945 smith also played drums in the abbott and costello movie here come the coeds.

she also had 16 inch tom toms on either side of her. benny goodman asked her to join his band but she turned him down. viola smith was still playing drums when she was 107 years old. >> i had never heard of her. >> until i read the biography i didn't know. she was an incredible bio. she was called the female gene groupa. she was on the ed sullivan show five times. performed at theirry truman's inauguration and she was on broadway for like four years playing drums in caberet. >> last couple weeks we have had some 100-year plus people. >> 107 is way up there. and she was still going. hats off to an extraordinary life. >> inspiration for the rest of us that complain about bad knees. mine is about a house in san francisco that has the ideal decoration for this halloween. look at this.

it is a giant face mask. the woman who lives there said her friend and her husband came up with the idea. in her words, we are actually living in the scariest of times. i like that thinking. she said her husband is an engineer. they have a good friend who is an architect. total they ransom models and came up with something amazing and realistic and it turned out the way they envisioned. i like any opportunity about the opportunity to remind people to wear a mask. >> i hope a strong wind doesn't come by, the house could sail away. >> it is a bit like a sail. i hope they are giving out canny and not bottles of hand sanitizer. >> or apples. i always hated going to the house where they gave apples. i hope they are giving out candy, too. >> yeah, you wouldn't want it to be healthy, no. heaven forbid. my talk of the table, my talk of

the table is filmmaker alexandra pelosi. you may recall her from the national attention she gained with her documentary journey's with george following george bush during his 2000 campaign. she went back on the road last year to film a new move audio. it's called american selfie, one nation shoots itself. lot of meaning in that title. it documents social unrest during the pandemic. one woman spoke about the growing demand for racial justice. >> i was ten years old when trayvon martin was murdered. and i remember watching the case, optimistic, knowing in my heart zimmermann would be charged and then he was acquitted of all charges. and eight years later absolutely nothing has changed. we have had hashtag after hashtag and absolutely nothing is changing. so that is why i am out here

saying black lives matter yet again, which is something we shouldn't even have to be saying in big old 2020. that we have to be saying our lives matter, it's absolutely insane. >> big old 2020. that says it all. alexandra pelosi joins us now. alexandra, good morning to you. first, congratulations on this film. i love it. i think sound from everyday people is so powerful. what i want to make sure is it is called american selfie. but this is not found footage. you were out there doing the work talking to people like we just heard. about that interview, that's a young woman who has been talking about ten years of change. you have been doing this 20-odd years. you have seen a lot of change. what is the difference between america of george bush years and the america of today? what caused that change. >> i should mention that that was the day that the united states military used chemical agents to shoot rubber bullets and chemical weapons at peaceful

protesters. that young lady is an example of who was there that day when the government turned on peaceful protesters before the curfew in america. you know, i have been doing this a long time. i was a network news producer for a decade. i have been making documentaries -- this is my 13th documentary. but i never thought in my lifetime that i would see my own government turn on its own people. to this day, i still haven't quite gotten over the fact that i was there watching the national guard shoot tear gas at innocent protesters in peacetime in america. i mean you expect that from third world countries. it is very venezuela. this is not america. that's something i think people need to think about. hold the mirror up to this country at this moment in time and say, we're better than this, america. >> there is a moment in the film -- i believe you are in las vegas. you are talking to a young man and you ask him s america broken? he says yes. do you agree?

is america broken? and who broke her? >> i would put it all on the lap of social media. i think regardless of who you are going to vote for in this election the one thing every person i talked to all across america for a year, the one thing everyone could agree on is social media is doing real damage to our democracy. it is completely undermining the conversation. it's making us hate each other. it's feeding everyone these toxic feeds that are just -- you know, it's capitalizing on the divide. and i fell like leading up to the election everyone should turn their phones off because it is doing so much damage to our mental health. >> yeah. what makes the film so powerful as it toggles between vastly different realities in this country and you get incredible authentic sound from others who are more fact based than others. seeing the transition between the two it must have been neck breaking for you as a reporter as a producer, as a filmmaker. what was it like shuttling

between the worlds? >> this is my 13th film. i have been doing this a very long time. i think what struck me this time around is how -- america is like a raw, open wound. you know, you walk out there and you talk to people, people are really decent. americans are good, nice people. but the way it looks on cable news is that we are all just -- it's toxic. and i feel like. >> yeah. >> when you go out and you talk to people you don't get that impression. there are lots of nice people you can meet everywhere across america. i think that people need to take a step back. what i am trying to do. this is like an artifact i am trying to hold up the mirror and say this is how woe look in 2020. this is our selfie. and we all need to take a deep breath and unplug from our toxic social media feeds and try to remember that we -- you know, there is a possibility we can get -- we all can get along after this election. we can. there is hope for us. >> boy, i hope so. i hope we take a long look in

the mirror and we make a change. it is a powerful film, american selfie, one nation shoots itself. it debuts tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific on showtime. that is a division of viacom cbs. but i would be saying all of this any waerk it is a great film. tune in ahead. only on "cbs this morning" we hear from

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throughout the last 25 years that mean a lot to me. i don't often talk about it when i am on stage performing. >> did it feel familiar to you as a form of art, as a form of expression? >> it is indulgent in the sweetest way. when i am on my death bed at 120 i will be looking at and each record will represent a different era. the feelings i was told i couldn't feel when i was a little girl were angry, scared, and sad. specifically those three i wasn't allowed. >> reporter: alanis's perspective is raw and honest just like her music. a story of self learning and steph discovery ♪ you live, you lose, you learn ♪ >> it's not a mystery to me that my unconscious when i write stream-of-consciousnessly that those feelings of anger and deep sadness and fear would find their way into my lyrics. i am inviting other people to

feel those feelings at the same time without shame and without stigma. it is a sweet exchange for me. >> what did you discover when you started writing about your life experiences? there is something about putting it on paper even though you lived it? >> the act of journaling or writing, any process with ourselves, it is a processing way to grow, and heal, define trauma, and to find clarity. ♪ a old man turned 98 >> reporter: also original renditions of some of her classics, songs she recorded in her studio during lockdown. like the hit song "i ronnic" that came out almost 25 years ago ♪ the good advice that you just didn't take ♪ >> reporter: along with years of criticism for misusing the word. did the criticism hurt you? >> the biggest irony for me is i

am usually the grammar police. >> really? >> first i got a taste of my own medicine. i didn't want the song on the record because it wasn't wildly personal but everyone enjoyed the song so we put it on there and i loved it. >> reporter: i love that you did a remake with our pal james corden. ♪ isn't it ironic >> so modern, james. >> reporter: alongside her new audible morisette recorded her ninth album, titled such pretty forks in the road. ♪ >> reporter: as she tackles her personal battle with postpartum depression or ppd, something she told us last year. >> when you talk about invasive thoughts, what does that

include, though? >> images that are horrifying, a lot of times about safety, about the people you love, your loved ones, your children. >> reporter: how are you doing now? >> i am not doing too well. it is a hormonal thing. it is a biological thing. it is a circumstantial thing. compounded by the pandemic it is an isolation thing. it is a predisposition to depression. it is rarely just depression or anxiety. it is invasive thoughts. the good news about ppd things get better and for me they are getting exponentially better. i have the light at the end of the tunnel. >> appreciate her honesty. >> vlad, thank toe much.

that will do it for us. tony, you'll be happy to know we have not given up your seat.

we're waiting for you to come back on monday. we'll see you monday morning. before we go, let's take a look back at all that mattered this week. have a great, great weekend. stay safe. >> folks, as my coach used to say in college, it's go time. >> the presidential campaigns are now making their closing arguments to the voters. >> we are going to keep on winning, winning, winning. >> the debate was more civil, it was more substantive, but did it move the needle for either candidate do you think? >> i don't think so, anthony. >> both camps are saying today my guy had a great night. can both be true? >> both could be true. >> a lot of people are actually fighting over businesses requiring us to wear these. >> the coronavirus continues to infect tens of thousands of americans every day. >> are you nervous for your own safety? >> to be honest with you, i feel safer here around my colleagues. >> the dna of the universe is in that dust. >> that's exciting to see the

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assignment. i want to lick the screen. >> the food is so good i went off my keto diet to try some of those dishes. >> can't spell the word lead without ed, just saying. ♪ life is a highway >> tony's been on a bit of a road trip you could say lately. >> hey, how ya doing? can i ask you a couple of questions? >> i can't shake. >> if you don't like trump, you don't like me. >> hell yeah, hell yeah. >> what makes you most upset when you think of 2020? >> i mean 2020 has been a dumpster fire. >> see a lot of signs for trump, see a lot of signs for biden. >> if i was to say one, it would say presidents are temporary, wutang is forever. >> get stung by a bee. >> this field work thing is

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