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captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on "face the nation," the nation's capitol is an armed fortress as america anxiously awaits the next 72 hours. with just three days to go before wednesday's inauguration ceremony, washington, d.c. looks more like a war zone than a setting for one of america's most cherished celebration os of democracy. monuments, bridges, buildings and streets surrounding the white house, the u.s. capitol and the national mall are surrounded with an unprecedented amount of security. 25,000 national guardsmen have been authorized to help local and federal law enforcement protect against threats from domestic violent
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any chances after the nightmare january 6th capitol attack. chilling footage shot by a new yorker magazine reporter who happened to follow some extremists as they broke into the capitol has just been made public. [yelling] >> brennan: that day has had dramatic repercussions about the disasterous security response, lack of communication between law enforcement agencies and president trump, who was impeached again by the house, this time for inciting an insurrection. incoming president joe biden is already looking ahead to the overwhelming challenges he faces fixing a battered economy, restoring our reputation around the world, and repairing the deep racial and cultural divisions within america. but his first priority, according to our cbs news
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poll, taking aggressive action to help bring the covid-19 pandemic to an end. we'll talk with president-elect biden's tivatirochelle walensky and dr. scott gottlieb, and governor jim justice, mayor melvin carter, and adam schiff will also be with us. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." tensions are running high here in washington and all around the country as president donald trump's term comes to an end and biderm as pridentnt joe liticatimes before in our history, n these.
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we begin with jeff pegues. >> reporter: margaret, the law enforcement presence that is in place right now is unprecedented. and u.s. officials tell us the greatest threat to this event is coming from domestic violent extremists. that is, americans seeking to harm fellow americans. there has been heightened security in washington since the deadly attack on the capitol by violent extremists on january 6th. new footage released this morning by "the new yorker" magazine shows more evidence the capitol police were undermanned and overwhme m of attackers, some of whom made it into the senate chamber. they photographed papers in a binder on a desk appearing to belong to texas republican senator ted cruz. >> i think we're good. [yelling] >> reporter: so rioters appear intent on aup
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and harming u.s. government officials. the video and social media evidence similar to this that has helped the f.b.i. across the country identify suspects. so far more than 100 people have been taken into custody. and there are about 300 cases against rioters. the current threat landscape is showing the prospect for more violence in the coming days as a tsunami of information is being sent to law enforcement. >> we are seeing an extensive amount of concerning online chatter because one of the real challenges in this case is trying to distinguish what is aspirational versus what is intentional. >> reporter: riots not only aimed at washington, potential targets mentioned last week in an f.b.i. bulletin warned that armed protests are being planned at all 50 state capitolss from january 16th through january 20th.
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residents in denver board up downtown shops. in minnesota, there are road blocks at the state capitol in st. paul. >> we are turning over every rock and looking under every bush to see if there is anything else out there. >> reporter: but the potential for violence doesn't end this week. officials are preparing for a possible threat to sacramento next month. and while the threats persist, some of the chatter online seems to be cooling, and that may be because of the massive law enforcement and national guard presence that is armed. margaret? >> brennan: jeff pegues, thank you. and tonight on "60 minutes," scott pelley will report on efforts to keep the inauguration safe. he spoke to acting deputy homeland secretary ken cuccinelli. here is a preview. >> president trump: we will never give up. we will never concede. >> reporter: but there is also the dilemma that the security is commanded
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by president trump, who encouraged the attack on the capitol and has relentlessly worked to stop the inauguration of joe biden. who does the national guard answer to? >> they answer through d.o.d -- >> reporter: through the president? >> that's the chain of command. >> reporter: if ordered to stand down, will they stand down? >> they will. you have to ask them. >> reporter: if the president orders d.h.s. to stand down, will you stand down? >> we will complete our jobs. we have a statutory mission, and we're going to perform under all circumstances. i think that hypothetical is not going to happen. it is unimaginable. >> reporter: a lot of things are unimaginable in washington these days, and we don't have a very good track record, taking the president's word -- >> homeland security -- >> reporter: my point is, are you going to follow the president or the constitution? >> we all swore an oath to the constitution. that is first and foremost. and we take homeland
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security very, very seriously. we deal with a lot of curveballs of all kinds. and yet we march forward to keep the american people as safe as we possibly can. >> brennan: we turn now to the chamber of the house intelligence committee, adam schiff. good morning to you, mr. chairman. >> good morning. >> brennan: there is a very visible security presence on the streets here in the nation's capitol right now. what is your understanding of the threat level in the days ahead? >> well, it is very high, and you're absolutely right, it reminds me of visiting baghdad, going to the green zone and seeing so much military presence and barricades. i never thought i would see tha in our own capitol or that it would be necessary. but there is a profound threat from domestic violent extremists, of the nature we saw on january 6th. there are people coming to the washington, d.c. area. they are bringing weapons. and we see threats to capitols all over the
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country, all 50 state capitols. i think the inauguration will proceed and it will proceed safely, but there will be gatherings of individuals. and those gatherings could turn violent. so there is a very high level of risk. >> brennan: capitol police confirmed this week they are investigating whether members of congress gave unauthorized or unsanctioned tours that could have provided reconnaissance support to those who then attacked the capitol days later. there are reports of quonon? do you have any sense there was support that fellow members aided the attack? >> i don't know the answer to that, margaret. obviously it is deeply important that we find out. and if there are members of congress that are complicit, beyond the complicitity of challenging the election, but more specifically
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involved in helping individuals do reconnaissance, they need to be held accountable in the strongest way that we can. along with my fellow chairs, we we're beginning investigation into what went wrong. i think there was was a massive security failure. >> brennan: what about lawmakers who sit on the committees that oversee the capitol police, for example, do they bear some responsibility as well? >> well, they'll be doing their own dption investigation s well. i'm focused on the intelligence. what did we know before the attack?like of vi against the capitol day, was the intelligence dissdisseminated. and we'll be investigating the capitol police and what changes need to be made there. i have very confidence
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that the house administration committee will perform those responsibilities, along with benny thompson and homeland security and other committees. >> brennan: have you seen any evidence of foreign support, financial or otherwise, for any of these domestic organizations involved in the siege? >> well, we are going to try to follow the money. that's a critical part of any investigation. i know caroline maloney has taken a particular interest in that issue. who was funding this? how much were they involved in what ultimately took place on january 6th? following the money is a vital part of our investigative plan, the congress broadly, and yinatio a >> brennan: in your role on the committee, you have some oversight of the intelligence community. sue gordon, who i know you know, one of the nation's top intelligence professionals, wrote an op-ed yesterday in which she said president trump
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is a security threat himself. when he leaves office, he should be denied access to intelligence briefings. would you urge the biden administration to do that? >> absolutely. there is no circumstance in which this president should get another intelligence briefing, not now, not in the future. i don't think he can be trusted with it now, and in the future he certainly can't be trusted. indeed, there were any number of intelligence partners of ours around the world who probably started withholding information from us because they didn't trust the president would safeguard that information and protect the sources and methods. and that makes us less safe. we've seen this president politicize intelligence, and that's another risk to the country. >> brennan: with just a few days to go, the trump administration is reportedly installing a g.o.p. operative at the national security agency, which oversees, as you know, some cyber and signal intelligence. do you have any indication
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of what the intent is there? >> i think it is very clear that this is part of the administration's effort to embed people who are civil servants, who don't belong there. in this case, michael ellis was mentioned in one of the articles of the impeachment. he was involved in putting that ukraine call record in a secure computer system where it didn't belong -- >> brennan: you're talking about the first impeachment? >> yes. there is no way that someone like michael ellis should be appointed or hired for a career service position, particularly if there were other applicants, which there were, which were more highly rated. >> brennan: whenlls th l, tt will be thesenateeach? speaker's decision. i'll leave the strategy to her and to jamie raskin and that incredibly talented team.
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this is, obviously, the most serious crime against our country and constitution of any president in history. and the fact that it took place in the last month doesn't make it any less serious. there needs to be full sena >> brean go noto st. paul, minnesota, where security at that state capitol has also been increased. the mayor, melvin carter, is here with us now. good morning, mr. mayor. >> mayor: good morning. thank you for having me on. >> brennan: we did see the f.b.i. put out a bulletin warning about your city, about your state. you run the capitol. what exactly are you preparing for? >> mayor: you know, we did see that bulletin that put us on a state of high alert, that we've been on anyway as we saw or watched what unfolded in d.c. earlier this week.
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the f.b.i. is telling us now they don't see any specific threats, but we know we're in a volatile moment. and so we have worked very closely with our national guard, with our state and st. paul police department, that hundreds of law enforcement personnel on duty, not just to protect our capitol complex, but our capitol complex is situated inside diverse and multi-lingual neighborhoods. >> brennan: the f.b.i. reported had specifically cited the boogaloo members, members who had gone out and caved the state capitol last month to identify the escape points and defensible positions. have you seen any evidence of organized groups, of malitias active in your area? where are they coming from? >> mayor: we have seen, e elecon day, repeated demonstrations at
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our state capitol, that included several individuals who have chosen that time to show up with rifles and other firearms with a show to try to be intimidating, frankly. it is unclear how organized they are. it is unclear how much of that is attributable to the boogaloo boys or any specific group. we're on high alert because of the general volatility. the f.b.i. is telling us they're tracking those individuals they think may have been presenting those kind of specific threats. we continue to be on a state of high readiness because this moment st so insane. but they're telling us they feel confident they're prepared to hammed hande the public safety around or capitol. >> brennan: you spoke this week about your personal reaction of seeing the confederate flag dragged into the u.s. capitol on january 6th. you said this insurrection was a blossoming of flowers that had been planted and watered very
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intentionally that existed in our country for a very long time. what are you talking about there? >> mayor: well, we know, and i think a decade ago, when we were having this discussion of whether america is a post-racial society or not, which we know now is a ridiculous notion -- we know that the emotions and the frustrations and the hatred that we saw pour of weeks ago has been simmering underneath the surface. my hope is that we, as americans, finally take that at arms. and finally address the race issue we have in our country, that continues to impact our history of systemic racism and oppression. our democracy is we the people, meaning all of us. >> brennan: you see racism is a contributing factor to the insurrection -- it what you're saying? >> i think it is very
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clear when we hear people say things like "take back our country," it seems to me they don't understand what america really is, and who americans really are. it seems to me as we've had a large conversation about the double standards of law enforcement that have been on display, as we've seen the bias of one elected leader translate into a completely different treatment of people who came out to say that george floyd never should have been murdered, versus people who come out rallied by our president to literally overthrow the capitol of the united states. we have seen the impact of race in ways i'm hopeful we can no longer deny. >> brennan: very wicly quickly on covid, minnesota has fallen behind. do you as mayor need to take control of that as 37 other mayors around the country are asking, to get
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a direct line of supply? >> mayor: we're fortunate that we have a strong relationship with our governor here in minnesota. we've been working closely on the covid response. and we worked closely to get national guard troops mobilized for this weekend -- >> brennan: so you don't need to take control. >> mayor: it is another point that the president will be dangerous until he leaves office. we're working hard to develop a plan "b" to move forward. >> brennan: good luck to you, mayor. thank you for your time. we'll be right back with west virginia governor jim justice. we'll be right back.
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>> brennan: we want to go to the republican governor of west virginia, jim justice. good morning to you, sir. >> governor: good morning. >> brennan: i want to
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about politics. do you believe your party, the republican party, remains the party of president trump after he leaves office on january 20th? >> governor: well, i don't know, margaret. to be perfectly honest, there is division all across our country right now. there is no question if we just step back and look at it, you know, are we doing stuff the right way? at the end of the day, we've got the division. we know where we're at. and we've got all kinds of problems. we need to absolutely lay down our arms as far as republicans and democrats and quit pivotly ourselves against one another like that. at some point in time, we have to realize wire americans. we're amans. and i don't say that lightly. i'm not a politician. i've never been that. and americans need to be united and not divided. >> brennan: not a politician, then you'll give me a straight answer on whether you think the president should be leading the republican ues c given tha
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ques that l of the experts and judges -- all the courts, everybody has said that we had an election and joe biden is our president. we should presp respect that in every way. first and foremost no question that our president has gotten out over his skies many, many different times. but, really, it is the people's decision. it is not my decision to weigh in. all i'm doing is stirring the pot when i weigh in. i want us to be together. foetpublicans and oubout your ability to distribute almost 70% of the vaccine doses that you've received from the federal government. you've used th what can they do that your general workforce cannot? >> governor: well, margaret, just think about this: for the last week or
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so, we've been running not at 70%. we're running it right at 100%. right now we're at 98.1% as far as vaccines in people's arms, or names tied to it, you know, that are going to be put into people's arms immediately. we're saving all kinds of lives. we're putting our kids back in school. west virginia has been the diamond in the rough that a lot of people have missed. we were the first in the nation to be able to test all of our people in the nursing homes and on and on and on. that's why we're leading the nation, because we are practical-thinking people with smart people that are getting it down. >> brenn: i nt t ask about the spic bec l goves figure that out. you decided not to go with the federal program to use c.v.s. and walgreens to vaccinate people in nursing homes. why did you go that route? >> governor: because really and truly, there are so many people that depend on their local
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health departments, their local pharmacies. absolutely our ability to bring in the national guard -- just think about it just for a second. what we did is, a lot of governors sat on their hands trying to come up with a system or a formula of what they were going to do. we didn't sit on our hands. i mean, we acted. we brought our local pharmacies in. we brought our local health departments in. we brought our national guard in. and we started putting shots in people's arms because this thing is all about age, age, age. that's all there is to it. >> brennan: so would you tell other governors to throw out the federal government's guidelines? >> governor: well, if what we're going to do is create a bureaucracy with federal government guidelines and everything when we know this is about age, age, and age, we've got to get shots in people's arms. and every day we put a shot in somebody's arm, we're saving a life.
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we need to get at it. that's all there is to it. >> brennan: all right. governor justice, thank you for you insight and your time today. we'll be right back.
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>> brennan: coming up next, we'll look at that new strain of coronavirus, coros plus our poll, what is on american's minds heading into the new administration.
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