watch cbs in bay area with the kpix 5 news app. captioning sponsored by cbs >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on "face the nation," the second impeachment of former president donald trump is now headed for the history books. and president biden steps up efforts on secureing vaccines and getting america's schools reopened. last week america relived and learned some terrifying new details about the january 6th attack on the capitol. but in the end, the result of the attempt to convict former president trump was predictable and political. there were some plot twists, like minority leader mitch mcconnell's condemnation of mr. trump immediately after he voted to acquit him. >> for a disgraceful --

disgraceful der election der eln of duty. >> we have a criminal justice system in this country. we have civil litigation. and former presidents are not immune from being accountable by either one. >> brennan: speaker pelosi called it a cowardly way out for republican senators. >> we censor people for using stationery for the wrong purpose. we don't censor people for inciting insurrection that kills people in the capitol. >> brennan: democrats warn without accountable, violence as seen on january 6th could happen again. >> i feared, like many of you do, that the violence we saw on that terrible day may be just the beginning. >> brennan: we'll talk with one of the

prosecutor, colorado congressman joe neguse. plus an exclusive conversation with british prime minister bortion border patrol, abord --boris jo. >> after all of that, american democracy is strong. >> brennan: and we'll talk to the head of the centers for disease control, dr. rochelle walensky, about president biden's back to school plan. and heyward donigan will be with us to tell us how her company plans to help with getting americans vaccinated. plus we'll check in with dr. scott gottlieb. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> brennan: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." the headlines this morning are similar to what they were almost exactly a day, aweek, and aa year ago,

after being acquitted in the foreign interference impeachment case. now former president donald trump has been acquitted again, this time for incitement of insurrection. but this time seven republican senators broke with their party. it was still 10 votes short of conviction. we want to begin this morning with one of the impeachment managers, colorado democratic congressman joe neguse, and he's in washington. good morning, congressman. >> good morning, margaret. >> brennan: you closed you're argument yesterday by saying extremist groups may be emboldened and the violence on the 6th may just be the beginning. are you saying republicans are complicit with that, and if so, how do you work across the aisle with them now? >> look, what i was saying, margaret, was very heart-felt on my behalf and all of the managers, and it is a real fear that i think many americans have after witnessing the terrible violence that happened on

january 6th, and without accountability, many of these groups could become more emboldened and en engage in more violence. i had hoped more senators would honor their oath by convicting the president. but make no mistake, the big difference between this year and the headline you referenced last year is just how historic this vote was. it was the most bipartisan impeachment vote in the history of our public. 57 senators, including seven republicans, chose country over party, look at our facts objectively, considered the evidence, and reached the same conclusion we did, which is the president incited insurrection. i want to salute those seven republicans, people like ben sasse and mitt romney, a profile encourage in my view in terms of their vote. >> brennan: why did you back off the request for witnesses? >> that's a fair question. i don't know if i would

characterize it that way -- >> brennan: well, you asked for them, and then the house managers said they didn't require them. that is backing off. >> well, here is what i would say,, i, i'm happy to answer the question. he requested one witness. for deposition testimony, which has been done in prior impeachments, during the clinton impeachment in 1999, of congresswoman clara butler, given what we learned about her statements the night before, and the converstion she had with minority leader mccarthy. and clearly that conversation went directly to the president's state of mind, in our view and in the view of 57 senators, supported our theory of the case. it became very clear to us the president's counsel was willing to stipulate to allow that statement to come into evidence and be

considered by the senate. and that was an important stipulation. ultimately manager raskin read out that statement to the united states senate. but i also say, marrying, marga, i think it is pretty clear, whether it was five more witnesses or 5,000 witnesses, it is very clear that the senators who voted to acquit on a technicality, that we successfully defended early in the trial and had convinced a majority of the senate, including republicans, that the senate did have jurisdiction to move forward, but it would not have made a difference to those senators. you heard that from mitch mcconnell himself, who conceded that the president was morally responsible for provoking the events of january 6th. >> brennan: there did seem to be some key items that came up at the last minute or were overlooked into the last minute. you mentioned the

congresswoman's comments, but she said they made those back in january. i want to play to you these comments from congressman mccarthy. >> brennan: i'm giving you the opportunity that we are witnessing this, call a spade a spade. >> i was very clear with the president, that he has to go to the american public and tell them to stop this. this is not who we are. this is not who his supporters are. this is the foundation of this nation. this is the democracy, that we are supposed to be the torch for the rest of the world. this is not the view -- nobody should encourage pthis and nobody should be a part of it. >> brennan: that's the republican leader saying on live television he personally asked the president multiple times to call off his mob. why leave key moments like that on the table? >> i disagree with the form of that question,

margaret. yes, that statement you just mentioned, certainly we're aware of. but the full extent of the conversation that leader mccarthy had with the president is what we and the country learned about within the last 48hours. the president's response to leader mccarthy that those rioters cared more about the election results than he did, that was new information. so it was important for the senate to consider that. but, again -- >> brennan: wouldn't you have wanted to ask mccarthy yourself these questions? i'm sure you've seen reports and comments from democratic senators, like chris coons, that this would have taken too long. if the takes were as high as you're saying, why not hear from these witnesses? >> i'd say a couple of things: first, it was very clear -- and, again, after manager raskin -- it was my understanding that witnesses that were not friendly to the prosecution were not going to comply voluntarily,

which meant we would be mitigating subpoenas for months, and potentially years. i know you know thi, this, margaret, we're still litigating the subpoena for donald mcgahn, which was two years ago. leader mcconnell himself yesterday acknowledged the president's disgraceful dereliction -- >> brennan: you looked right at mccarthy. did you ever think you were going to persuade him to convict? >> i was hopeful. i care very greatly about this country as the son of an immigrant and given lots of opportunities. i'm grateful that seven of them on the republican side did that. obviously history will

portray the rest. >> brennan: congressman, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> brennan: this morning, a special interview with british prime minister boris johnson. he, like president biden, is struggling with the pandemic. they have now surpassed the u.s. rate and is one of the highest in the world. good morning to you, mr. prime minister. >> good morning. >> brennan: thank you for joining us. i wanted to ask you a little bit of your reflection on what just happened overnight. you strongly condemned the attack on the u.s. capitol and said it was completely wrong for then-president trump to consistently cast out on the outcome of a free election. in terms of america's global standing, what signal did this acquittal make? >> i think the clear message that we get from the proceedings in america is that after all the to-ings and fro-ings, american democracy is

strong. and the american constitution is strong and robust. and we're delighted -- i'm very delighted to have a good relationship with the white house, which is an important part of any u.k. prime minister's mission. and i've had some good conversations already with president biden. fantastic conversations about the way he sees things. you know, margaret, there has been some important developments in the way the u.k./u.s. speaking thas come toghascome together it few weeks, particularly on things like climate change, nato, iran. and the u.s. and the u.k. will work together to deal with the environmental challenge that faces our planet. some of the stuff we're now hearing from the new american administration, from the new white house, is incredibly encouraging, and we want to work with

the president on that. >> brennan: and i understand you will be hosting president biden for his first foreign meeting on the 19th, although it will be virtual because of covid. the trump administration has already pledged about $4 billion in december to the global vaccine aligns alliance in this fight against covid. i understand it is the focus of your upcoming meeting with president biden. what are you asking him to do? >> the united states and the u.k. both have an incredibly proud record of supporting the covax global vaccine. we want to ensure that countries around the world that are less fortunate than ours have the vaccine. and we'll be working to make sure that happens. what i also want to see is the u.s. and the u.k. working together to learn the lessons from the pandemic and to build back better together.

i'm thrilled that president biden also has a slogan, build back better -- i think we used it first. but it is the right slogan, margaret. we've got to learn from this pandemic. we've got to learn how to share information, how to share drugs properly, how to make sure we don't hoard things like personal protective equipment, as you saw earlier on in the pandemic. we want to make sure we're distributing vaccines. in the u.k., we now have one of the fastest vaccine rollouts anywhere in the world. as your viewers perhaps know, i think we've done almost 15 million vaccinations. and one in four adults has now had a vaccination. it is tremendously fast progress. but we want to make sure we work with countries like the united states so that everybody gets vaccinated. there is no point in great

countries like the united states, the u.k., vaccinating our own populations if we don't ensure that everybody gets a vaccination. >> brennan: so you're asking the u.s. for more money towards that? >> the u.s. has already been extremely generous, as you said yourself. and the u.k. is the second biggest contributor to covax and the global vaccination alliance, and we'll continue to do that. >> brennan: i want to ask you about what the world health organization's actually constitutes because the biden administration was clear, they have deep concerns about china, and they're demanding that china hand over data about the early outbreak. are you joining them in that call? is china obscuring what happened? >> one of the things we'll be calling for in the g-7, which president biden is going to be joining, i'm

glad to say, is global coordination in getting to the bottom of what happened with these diseases. when you have a zoanoanotic plague like the coronavirus, we need to know how it happened, if it originated from human contact with the animal market. did it come from a wet market? did it come from the bats? all of these questions are now matters of speculat speculation. i thoroughly support what president biden has said about that. >> brennan: british government scientists revealed on friday, that particular strain, b117, which was first detected in your country, is likely increased to a greater rate of hospitalization and death, perhaps as much as 40% to 60% more.

you're under a lot of political pressure to open your schools. are you certain you can do that next month? >> we're proceeding in a cautious way. and what you've got at the moment in the u.k. is the virus coming down. you're perfectly correct in what you say about the b117 warrants. bear in mind the reason we've been able to isolate this variant is because the u.k. conducts far more geomic testing. we do about 47% here in the u.k., so we're pretty good at spotting these variants and tracking their movement through our populations. it is absolutely true this one spreads faster. but what you're now seeing is thanks to the efforts of the british people, the lockdown, plus possibly the effects of the vaccine, we're going to start seeing the rates coming down more sharply.

and they're falling at the moment. we want to be in a position where we can begin to open up. so what i've said, margaret, is that on march the 8th we want schools to go back if we possibly can. i'm not saying that we're announcing that today because we're going to be saying a lot more on the 22nd of this month. we'll be making clear our roadmap. and i think what people want to see, and this may be the same in the u.s., is clarity about the way forward and taking steps that you don't then have to reverse. >> brennan: exactly. that's what i want to pres you on, though, mr. prime minister, because when you announced you were shutting schools in january, and you prioritized for a long time keeping open schools, when they shut down, you said because they might be vectors of transmission for the community. if you've got this strain circulating and you believe schools are vectors of transmission,

how can you reopen them? >> the answer to that is that you need to see what the effect of the vaccination program is in removing like the victims, victims in the sense of people who suffer either death or serious disease -- what the success of the vaccination program has in removing those people from the path of the disease. and also what is happening with the rate of infection. it's now coming down, margaret, very considerably in our country. what we don't know is quite how fast it is going to be coming down in the next couple of weeks. >> brennan: one. vacciof thevaccines you are usis from astrazeneca, and there are questions about how affective it can be against some of the mutant strains, specifically the one first detected in south africa. are you concerned you're putting a flawed vaccine

into the arms of your constituents, and what is your backup plan? >> we have great confidence in all of the vaccines we're using. and we have no reason to think they are ineffective against any variant -- any new variant of the virus in protecting people, margaret, against serious illness and death. and that's a very important consideration for us. one of the features of astrazeneca that has been recently confirmed by the scientists is that it reduces transmission between people. there is a 67% reduction in transmission as a result of the use of these vaccinations. >> brennan: okay. mr. prime minister, we're going to t take a quiick break. "face ththe nation" " will be back i in one minute. stay with us. attatack cancer.r. pd-l1 trtransformed,d,

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johnson. back in april, you were very sick. you were hospitalized. did you ever think won't make it? >> i think like many people in my country, i'm very grateful to the health care workers. they do an outstanding job and they continue to do an outstanding job. i think one of the features of this illness is that you don't -- as you undergo it, it is possible you don't realize quite what a state you're in. i think that is one of the features of it. because your oxygen levels go down in a way that perhaps the patient doesn't necessarily detect themselves. >> brennan: and that's why it is so serious. i want to ask you about u.s.-u.k. relations. you have not yet met president biden, but you do have a phone call. back in 2019, he referred to you as the physical and emotional clone of donald trump. are you concerned you're going to start off on the wrong foot? >> i've had, i believe,

already two long and very good conversations with the president. and we had a really good exchange, particularly about climate change and what he wants to do. we want to build back better together, particularly in the run up to the summit in november in glasgow this year, which we hope will be a physical incarnation of the leaders of the world to agree to what we hope will be a fantastic thing, which is everybody to get to net zero carbon emissions by 2050, but also making pledges on the way what they're going to do to get there by 2030. >> brennan: on the issue of ireland, you may have some difference here. president biden doesn't want you to put that peace agreement in northern ireland at risk at all. mahas made clear that border needs to stay open and you

need to adhere to that u.k. agreement from december. can you commit and reassure the u.s. congress and the u.s. president that you will do so, in all circumstances, stick to that agreement? >> you bet. this is fundamental for us. the peace agreement, the good friday process, the belfast agreement -- these agreements are absolutely crucial. >> brennan: and the northern ireland protocol -- >> these are crucial for our continued stability and success of the u.k. i have a great relationship with dublin, with nito martin, and we're going to work together to do some great things. margaret, we won't do anything to jeopardize the achievements of the northern irish peace process. it is absolutely vital. >> brennan: and the northern ireland protocol,

you will adhere to that open border? >> we want to make sure that there is free movement north and south, a free movement east and west, and we quarantine the rights of the people of northern ireland, of course. >> brennan: all right. mr. prime minister, i'm told we are out of time. thank you very much. thank you very much for your time today. >> no. margaret, thank you so much. thank you.u. >> brennanan: thank y you. "face e the nationon" will bebe baback in one miminute. stay w with us.

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