>> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation." we want to pick up where we left off with r.n.c. chairwoman ronna mcdaniel. you met with the former president this week in florida. do you think he is going to run again in 2024? >> i don't know. that is going to be a decision is going to have to make down the road. he is committed to helping us win back maturities in 202, which is what i'm focusing on. we picked up 15 this last election, and are one seat away from taking back the senate. as we're seeing the trump administration and their legacy being stripped away by joe biden, who said he was going to run in a

bipartisan way and work with republicans, he hasn't done that on anything, including this recent boondoggle of a stimulus bill with grab bags for nancy pelosi and chiewrmt. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. >> brennan: how damaging were the events of january 6th r party? >> they were damaging to our country. i think it was horrific, what happened january 6th. there is no american, republican or democrat, who looks at that and sees our capitol attacked and feels good. i think there is a lot of self-reflection that has to go on across the whole country. we are -- >> brennan: has the president done some self-reflection. >> i'm going to talk about me because i'm not going to speak to for somebody else -- >> brennan: well, you said -- >> he is more vocal in announcing groups like q-anon. there was a bomb placed

outside my building, outside the republican national committee. we have a deeply divided nation. i will denounce extreme elements that say they're republican and say you can't be in our party. i would like democrats to do the say with antifa and say you are not welcome in our party as they burned down cities this past summer. i would ask the media, be more fair in how you report things. don't suppress reports on hunter biden and on the reports of governor cuomo, and then highlight things like you just did with governor noem. >> brennan: when he agrees to come on this program, trust me, he won't like some of my questions. >> i hope that the media as a whole will not ignore governor cuomo. >> brennan: to your point that you were raising about being more vocal and speaking out, congresswoman liz cheney

said the trumpsupporters who violently seized the capitol raised this particular issue... >> it is very important, especially for us as republicans, to make clear that we aren't the party of white supremacy. >> brennan: will you make that clear now? >> 100%. we passed a resolution unanimously from the r.n.c. members three years ago saying we condemn white supremacy, anti-semitism, k.k.k., and i will add q-anon to that. they are not welcome in our party. i have not seen the democratic party do that with louis farrakhan. >> brennan: because it was the republicans who seized the capitol -- >> the democrats have created a safe haven for antifa. they have not denounced them. nancy pelosi said if a

city is being ripped apart, people will do what they do. you can't hold republicans to one standard and not democrats. that creates unrest as well. >> brennan: when it comes to republicans, i know you have focused on recruiting women back to the party. is marjorie taylor green, who was a q-anon supporter, who was described by mitch mcconnell as a cancer on the republican party, is she representative of the kind of republican woman you want? >> you know, i've been very vocal about her comments. she apologized for them. i'm glad to see that she did. and her district will decide that. but we have increased women. we're at 38 women in congress in the republican party, that's the highest we've ever had. here is the other thing: women are suffering under the biden administration. 2.4 million women have lost their jobs because of daycare issues, 140,000 last month. women are struggling because our kids are not back in school. i'm not saying this as a republican. i'm saying this as a mother with two kids in

public school, watching this rip apart my community as kids are suffering. get it done. get our kids back in school. that's what the republican party stands for. it is florida versus new york. our kids can go back to school safely and our businesses can be open, and that's how we'll get women in. >> brennan: ronna mcdaniel, thank you for your time. adam kinzinger broke with his party and voted to impeach president trump back in january, and he joins us this morning from capitol hill. good morning to you, congressman. >> good morning. >> brennan: we're spending a lot of time talking about your party today, when the former president takes the stage at cpac, he is expected to say that the republican party is united. is the republican party united? >> no. i think there is -- we may be united in some areas. we don't have to agree with everything that the

biden administration is doing. so unity in some of that. but i think in terms of what is our vision for the future, certainly not united. i think we are a party that has been, for too long, pedaling in fear, using fear as a compelling way to get votes, and fear does motivate. but after a while, fear can destroy a country and a democracy. and we have to quit pedaling that. i think what you'll hear from the president at cpac is self-congratulations, and no ability to recognize we have lost the house, the senate, and the presidency because of donald trump, and you're going to see a lot of fear. >> brennan: you heard the chairwoman of your party saying she met with the former president with the intention of having him help win back the house and the senate. she is believing that he is a force to bring people to the republican party? >> well, i think he is. i think certainly he has got a number of people

that follow him and are motivated by him and compelled by him because there has been no competing alternative vision. to win a narrative in a party, you have to present a competing alternative narrative. when you only hear from donald trump, and when people walk around in fear of his tweet tweets or his comments or they use his fear to pedal winning re-election, of course he is going to motivate people. that's when i launched my website, it is about fighting for the american party for an optimistic future, one we can be proud of. and we teach young people how to do politics in a way we used to remember and appreciate. >> brennan: you're talking about the political action commit that you have founded. that is part of what i was talking about earlier with some in-fighting. how are you going to pick candidates? is there anyone you see, for instance, in the senate right now? we know minority leader

mcconnell said there are at least four senators he has that are going to run for president. do any of them have the kind of vision you're calling for? >> not that i've seen. i don't know who the senators that are going to run. there are a few i appreciate. ben sasse, mitt romney, lisa murkowski, those who voted to remove the president because i think they did it at great personal cost. that shows leadership. liz cheney, with her strength and ability to stand up in front of a tough crowd and tell the truth, that's what america needs more of. they need more of truth-telling, more of presenting light in the darkness. we have to start with our own party. we can point fingers at the democrats, sure, but it is not going to do any good. now every party, especially the republican party, has to look inside after january 6, and say what have we become and where do we go from here? and reaching out to donald trump and more of the same is not going to do that. >> brennan: you spent

some sometime thinking about foreign policy, are you disappointed that just like president trump president biden did not take action against the saudi head for not taking direct action against jamal khashoggi. >> talking about this is very important because the saudi crown prince responds to public shaming. i think there has to be behind the scenes capability. once we start basicing pushing and picking sides, it is a very complicated area. we have to be very careful unhow wein how we go forward because especially in the middle east things are complicated. >> brennan: but this was a u.s. citizen. do you think there should be consequences for murder

and dismemberment? >> i think public accountable will be important. there are things we will find out later, and it might not be military action, but targeted sanctions that will come out either publicly or behind the scenes in the future. i don't think this chapter is written yet. >> brennan: like the halt that is being considered on defensive weapons sales? >> i have to look at the details. but certainly there has to be accountable for this. >> brennan: congressman kinzinger, thank you for your time today. we'll be right back. ain. withth tremfya®, adults w with moderarate toto severe plplaque psoriris can ununcover cleaearer skin d imimprove sympmptoms at 1616 . seserious allelergic reactcts mamay occur.

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recommended deadline for schools to reopen. you have pushed them to the front of the line, ahead of other essential workers, so they could get those shots. how politically difficult was it to do that? >> governor: well, in kentucky we determined that we needed to prioritize both our present, those that were suffering the most and most likely to die from covid, as well as our future, getting our children back in school. i'm not just a governor, i'm also a dad of a middle schooler and an elementary school student. so i've seen the impacts that this has had. we pushed or teachers to the front of the line, and we're about to be the first state to fully vaccinate all of our educators. we have all but about seven school districts already back in some form of in-person. and those districts are going to expand. and now we have a commitment from all of our remaining districts to get

that done, two. too. it is important we do it in a safe way and build confidence in our educators themselves. >> brennan: i often hear from governors they can't prioritize teachers over other essential workers. the allegation often is having to do with a fear of unions. the fact that you're a right to work state, where unionship is not compulsary, did that make a difference? >> governor: i don't think so. we have strong associations for our teachers. the way we look at this is everything is difficult in covid. even the concept of what is an essential worker? is one person more essential than another? for us, it was a workforce issue and development for our children, scholastically and emotionally and socially. it was about getting back to some form of normal while we were still very careful. we made this call early on. we stuck to it, and no matter what you decide during covid some are going to oppose it. it is about trying to do

the right thing, the best thing for your people, and then to let the consequences be what they'll be. >> brennan: kentucky ranks 29th among states on vaccine rollout according to the c.d.c., for your general population. why are you lagging, and will the johnson & johnson supply make a difference? >> governor: well, we don't think we're lagging. >> brennan: that's from the c.d.c. >> governor: i understand. there are different ways that you judge the numbers. that's first and second dose together. we believe that we have to be as fast as possible with the first dose, to get people some level of immunity. and as of last week, we had used 98.5% of all of the first doses provided. we think differently on the second dose. that is meant for a very specific person. we made the decision if it takes a little longer to get it to them, we were going to make sure it gets to them. what i can say is all around the country, we see capacity and efficiency picking up every day. johnson & johnson is going to be a game-changer.

the fact that we can fully vaccinate everyone in just one shot, that basically eliminates death and serious illness, and we're going to get tens of thousands of additional vaccines per week per state. it is just going to get us to the finish line that much faster. we're really excited about it here in kentucky. the more vaccine you can send us, the better. >> brennan: you're a democrat, and since we heard from the republicans about the in-fighting in their party, i need to ask about the in-fighting within yours. west virginia joe manchin told us after the election that, quote, "the radical part of the democratic party scared the bee jesus out of rural voters in 2020." do you believe that the progressive wing of your party is out of touch? >> governor: i believe our party, like others, have lots of different people with lots of different views.

but the ability to discuss those in a way where we don't make enemies out of one another is what is so important in side our party or for our country as large. and people are passionate. they're passionate about the views they have. but we also have to be respectful of one another, to make sure that what brings us together isn't who we dislike, but it is what we stand for. so when those debates are occurring, if they're actually on issues, then we're moving in the right direction, even if there is disagreement on those issues. i'm highly concerned that what is bringing too many people together in our country is who they dislike and not what they actually stand for. >> brennan: the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell, from your state, criticized this covid relief bill that president biden is putting together and which just passed the house. he called it deliberately partisan and actively harmful to america's recovery. how much do you need this money? is it a mistake for

president biden to muscle this through with only democratic support? >> every county judge and mayor across kentucky, whether republican, democrat are independent, they will tell you they need this assistance. this gives us the ability to make up for some of the harm. on the state level, this gives us an opportunity to stimulate or economy, while not having to borrow and go into debt. it is what every economist, at least on a state level, will tell you is exactly where we should be. let's use the dollars to create jobs, to provide relief, and to shorten this recession. right now we've got a decision to make: are we going to be f.d.r. or herbert hoover? do we want to make decisions to get us out of this recession more quickly, which benefits every family, republican or democratic, but you have to be bold about that, and you can't be

concerned if it happens under a democratic president or a republican president. can't we put that aside for just a little bit and help all of our families -- >> brennan: the last few were bipartisan. that's the argument this time around. we have to leave it there. for more of the challenges teaching during this pandemic, i spoke with an aacademy founder sal kahn. you can listen on your favorite app. we'll be right back.

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it was 74% affective at preventing asymptomatic prevention. which is what all of the vaccines are starting to demonstrate. there is more and more evidence that these vaccines are preventing transmission of infection, which makes them an even more important public health tool. i think people should be confident about taking it, and it will be on the market this week. >> brennan: dr. fauci says there are worrisome variants in new york and california, and said that may be partly why they're seeing some stalling happening with this trajectory that had otherwise been headed downwards. what do you think, are we being set back? >> doctor: i believe this stalling could be explained by increased mobility. if you look at google mobility data, people are moving around more. i don't think the new york variant, called 1526, is having much of an impact. it represents about 9% of the infections in new york. this strain started to

become prevalent as early as this summer. so it probably didn't explain the surge we've seen. there are two different forms of the variant. one of them has the same mutation that is in the south african variant, and that's the one we're more concerned about. it represents about 5% of infections in new york. because vaccines may be less affective against that. it is still very speculative. with respect to the los angeles variant, people are a little less concerned about that. it doesn't seem to have the 484k mutation that we found in the south african version that seems to make vaccines a little less affective. we're more concerned about the new york variant, but i don't think these variants are explaining what we're seeing, with the exception maybe of south florida and southern california where 117 is becoming more relevent, and that may be causing a backup in california and

florida. >> brennan: when should we expect booster shots? >> i think we're going to get boosters in the fall. there are studies under way by moderna and pfizer, looking at a third booster of the existing vaccines, and looking at new variant vaccines they're going to put into development and see which are more affective. we have a time for a better toolbox for the fall and vaccines that will cover them. and you'll probably have boosters in the fall for people getting vaccinated right now. >> brennan: i want to ask you about governor noem, she told cpac she never focused on c.d.c. numbers, but on hospit hospitalizations. what do you make of her defense? >> doctor: well, look, i think it is important to look at the vulnerable population and hospital

capacity and how many people are being hospitalized and dying from the infection as an important measure. but you have to look at prevalence, back when we were having the first, second, and even third wave, prevalence was an important predictor of the morbid of the fi infection. before july 1st we didn't really know how to treat covid. we were treating it with hydroxychloroquine. we started to use blood thinners on patients, we were in intubating less dramatically. if you look at post-july 1st in terms of deaths per capita by state, south dakota is lst. mississippi, north dakota, those are the states that come in last in terms of

deaths per capita. they did pay a price for it, and i don't think you can explain that away. it is just a fact. they will argue they maybe didn't take the same economic hit by imposing restriction, but they did pay a price in terms of higher death rates. >> brennan: dr. gottlieb, thank you for your perspective, as always. we'll be right back. you're sitting in the place where giants ate. the four way is the heart andd soul o of the commmmunity. ♪ before we talk about tax-smart investing, what's new? -well, audrey's expecting... -twins! grandparents! we want to put money aside for them, so...change in plans.

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