talking about friday. it's great. all right. thank you for watching this morning. the news continues all day on cbsn bay area. ♪ ♪ good morning to you, our viewers in the west and welcome to "cbs this morning" on this wednesday march 24, 2021. i'm gayle king. that's anthony mason. that's tony dokoupil. we are speaking exclusively with vice president kamala harris live and there's a lot to talk about today. we'll ask her about the mass shootings in colorado and georgia, the changes for gun control and the biden administration's response to the situation at the u.s.-mexico border. we are learning more about the ten victims in the boulder supermarket attack from the people who knew them best. how their families want them remembered and the latest on the investigation. >> actress olivia munn is on a

mission after last week's attack on the spas. how all of us can help in the fight against discrimination against asian-americans. >> we can all help on this. here's your "eye opener," your world in 30 seconds. >> the suspect is ahmad al allissa of armada. >> a shooting that left people dead in doulder, colorado. >> it came crashing down seeing someone i knew dead -- dead there. >> he was such a wonderful man. we're devastated as a community. >> make no mistake. the senate legislative graveyard is over. >> in washington, a senate hearing on gun violence showed the partisan divide. >> a bunch of laws that would do nothing to stop these murders. >> treasurury secretary janet yellen testifying before a house committee on the pandemic and the response. >> i think we may see a return to full employment next year.

>> destructive flooding continues to isolate dozens of towns and has forced hundreds of rescues in southeastern australia. >> a man who spent eight month in the hospital battling complications from covid was finally released. >> and all that matters. >> the colorado state shooting association released this statement. there will be a time for a conversation on how this could have been prevent, but today is not the time. why not? that's what they say every time this happens and that's what i say about what they say every time it happens. >> on "cbs this morning". >> an emotional moment for denver nuggets coach mike malone. >> we get judged on wins and losses, but if you take a step back and you -- put yourself and one of those families, what do

you feel? >> this morning's eye opener is presented by progressive. making it easy to bundle insurance. >> we all understand that emotion because we all go to the grocery store. i heard stores yesterday that someone was going to get mushrooms. somebody else was going to get their covid shot. it is something that is so relatable and when you put yourself in those shoes. >> anyone. >> any one of us walking through those aisles and what a day for vice president kamala harris to be here. >> we welcome you to "cbs this morning." they're being described this way, truly wine one of a kind. a hard working young man, a beautiful soul with a warm and loving heart and a father who represents all things love. just one of the ways that the ten victims that the colorado supermarket shooting are being remembered this morning by the friends and family they left behind who are still in so much pain today. the dead range in age from 20 to

65 years old. the latest losses in this country and crimes committed by people using semi-automatic weapons among them responding police officer, supermarket employees and a grandfather-to-be. >> we are learning new details this morning about the shooting suspect. he has been identified as 21-year-old ahmad al aliwi alissa. he faces ten counts of first-degree murder and we have coverage from boulder including correspondent david begnaud on the investigation and we will start with jonathan vigliotti and stay with the families of those we lost. good morning to you. >> this is the patrol car officer talley used to drive to the scene on monday. it's parked outside of the police department where it's part of a growing memorial and when you look at it it's hard not to think of the nine other victims, the people talley tried to save who also didn't make it home. >> he was a really smart kid. he was training to be an airline

pilot. he wanted to be a commercial airline pilot. that was his dream. >> to dean shiller, 20-year-old denny stong was just getting started. he was a good boulder kid. he was a little bit sheltered. we go about our lives thinking we can trust society to take care of us and he was definitely one of those people. he definitely trusted and was super friendly and helpful. >> the two had spent monday morning hiking before riding to king soopers together to pick up lunch. they got separated and planned to meet up at schiller's car. schiller was outside when he heard the shots. >> i assumed he was right behind me. so he must have been at the entrance as the shooter was coming in. >> shiller began filming. >> we've got injured parties on the ground! 911 now, people! >> documenting live on youtube what happened for the next three hours as thousands watched at home. we've got people down inside

king soopers. >> at that point he didn't know stong was among the victims. >> i have my moments when i'm able to hold it together, and a lot of times when family come to visit or close friends it becomes a bit more emotional because we all share in the grief together. >> sharing that grief are the friends and family members of the other nine victims. kevin mahoney's pregnant daughter erica called him her hero and wrote you are always with me, 51 officer eric talley was first on the scene, rushing to save those inside. we spoke to his father over the phone. >> my granddaughter told me on the phone that her dad was dead and it slowly sank in. >> he told us how his son joined the force when he turned 40 leaving a comfortable desk job to protect the citizens of boulder. >> did it surprise you to learn that your son was not only the first to arrive here on the

scene at this supermarket, but also the first to put his life on the line? >> it did not surprise me at all. that's who he was. >> but talley said his son, a father of seven children would be embarrassed to be called a hero and he just considered it part of his job. >> how do you want your son to be remembered? >> as a father, as a police officer who wanted to serve and a person with a good heart because he truly did have a good heart. >> and officer talley's father said something that really struck me. he said initially he was enraged and angry, as you can imagine and then he leaned into his faith and found forgiveness. he says he forgives the man that killed his son as he puts it, the world needs more kindness. >> jonathan, thank you. each one of those stories and i'm thinking of the face of denny stong who looks so young in those photographs. he's 20 years old. it's just devastating.

>> i just think that you hear grief meeting outrage because we all have been here before and jonathan said, something struck him, everything about that story strikes me. everything. >> forgiveness is a powerful message. it really is. i marvel when people are this close to the tragedy -- >> that they find it. >> forgiveness doesn't mean helplessness and something can be done and that's the next conversation. >> david begnaud is also in boulder with the latest on the investigation and what we are learning about how the attack happened. david, good morning. >> we are told that the suspect's father told police that his son was angry. the associated press reports that family members have also told police they think the suspect was suffering from some kind of mental illness, delusion. he thought people were following him or chasing him and apparently another family member told police that she saw what appeared to be the gunman playing with what looked like a machine gun just a couple of days before the shooting here at

the grocery store right behind me. >> people lying in the street, guys! >> the shooting started in the parking lot where according to the arrest warrant the suspect shot an elderly man multiple times. >> he's inside the building right now! >> the suspect then allegedly made his way inside wearing tactical gear and armed with a semiautomatic handgun and a rifle, and he started firing on employees and customers. >> my co-worker looked at me and i looked at him and he says that's not breaking glass. that's an ar-15. i just saw the dude hit the floor. >> daniel, who did not want to share his last name was shopping with his coworker. we started running through the store telling everybody to follow us. >> the entire building is surrounded. >> nearly 50 minutes after the massacre began, an officer arrested the suspect who was wearing only shorts after he had apparently removed his clothing inside the store. >> officers arrived on the scene within minutes and immediately entered the store and engaged the suspect. >> according to the warrant, the

suspect ahmad al alissa bought an assault weapon less than a week before the shooting and he purchased it on march 16th. the 21-year-old was born in syria, but he grew up in the united states. s bhither told the daily beast alissa is mentally ill and he describes him as paranoid and anti-social and says he was bullied in high school. police records indicate when he was in high school back in 2018 alissa was convicted of misdemeanor assault after he punched another student several times during math class. according to an incident report alissa claimed that he had been bullied by the student for about a year and more than two dozen witnesses in the class told investigators that the attack appeared unprovoked. as of this morning, officials here in boulder had not yet released a motive behind the supermarket massacre. >> we are going to do everything in our power to make sure this suspect has a thorough trial, and we do a thorough

investigation. >> this is interesting. about four years ago the city of boulder passed an assault weapons ban, but the intention of preventing more shootings just like what happened here at the grocery store, but ten days ago, just ten days ago, a court blocked that ban after the nra filed a lawsuit arguing that the state of colorado has a law which says local governments like boulder cannot impose or have their own weapons bans. so the nra won. >> david, thank you very much. let's go to boulder mayor sam weaver. mayor weaver, good morning to you. we watched live yesterday as the names of the victims were read publicly for the first time. you spoke and the city of boulder began the process of grieving. now 24 hours later, how is the city doing? >> i think we're still just getting out of shock. you know, it is quite difficult to digest something like this happening in your backyard and so i think the grieving is just

beginning to start as we learned the names and of course, the stories behind the people who were killed. >> boulder is a city with a local ban or it had a local ban on assault-style rifles like the one used in that supermarket yesterday. not sure it would have made a whole lot of difference because statewide, they're still available. yesterday president biden called on a national ban on assault-style rifles. is that something that you think could have helped in this case. >> i totally support that and i think it could have helped. absolutely. one-half of the problem that lead to the events of march 22nd is that the availability of assault-style weapons is too high. the other half is think, identifying and helping people with mental health challenges, but i think the weapon availability is what sets the u.s. apart from other countries. >> the mental health challenges, and that is a big component to this, no doubt about it. as far as the local ban shows, a

judge in the state overturned it and said it wasn't constitutional under state law and what is your next step and what is your message to your community about how you intend to do your best to keep them safe? >> our next step is to keep pushing on this problem from as many problems as we can. one of those fronts is we're likely to appeal the ruling of the district court judge in colorado to the colorado supreme court. basically the issue at hand is whether a home sitting in colorado can make a rule about assault wep nons light of the state preemption. the state preemption tells us we cannot. we are pushing our state legislators to put an assault weapons ban in place which is like the federal one in place in the '90s. >> the uncomfortable fact about shootings that we witnessed on monday as a nation is they are public events. they create a public terror in their aftermath. people can't go about their business without thinking of it.

is there a plan in the days and weeks ahead for a kind of public memorial, a public grieving process? >> we'll begin tonight with a council meeting. we called a special council meeting for tonight in which we are hear words on national experts on getting through situations like this. i know there is at least one vigil planned for tomorrow night, as well, a community can gather and remember those who are no longer with us. >> mayor sam weaver on this difficult morning. thank you very much for joining us. president biden wants to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and faces a steep uphill battle in the senate. cbs news has learned the biden administration is exploring options to bypass congress on gun reform if lawmakers do not act. chief white house correspondent nancy cordes joins us now with more on that story. nancy, here's the question. what do we know about the president's plans? what are you hearing? >> good morning. we are told that the white house is looking at various actions

the president could take on his own, but we know that legislation is more binding, more longlasting than executive action, and so first the president is urging congress to pass some pretty major reforms, a move that surprised even some of his own supporters. >> i don't need to wait another minute, let alone an hour. >> president biden is calling for a return to '90s-era gun restrictions. >> we can ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in this country once again. >> it's a tall order for a deadlocked congress that has struggled even to strengthen background checks, something most americans support. >> inaction by this congress makes us complicit. >> a hearing tuesday showed that fault lines haven't changed. >> what happens in this committee after every mass shooting is democrats propose taking away guns from law abiding citizens. one big change, democrats

control the senate and the agenda. then candidate biden promised early action on guns. >> in my first day of office, i'll send a bill to the congress repealing the liability protection for gun manufacturers. >> but the issue has taken a backseat to other major priorities like infrastructure, immigration and covid relief. >> this administration could be doing executive action. >> shannon watts is the founder of moms demand action. she says the white house has the power on its own to close a loophole that allows unlicensed gun sellers to skip a background check. >> there isn't a corner of the biden administration or the justice department that couldn't do something right now to address the gun violence crisis in this country. >> chuck schumer vowed yesterday to put two house-passed gun reform bills up for a vote in the senate soon, but it's not clear that those bills can get the 60 votes they need to pass. in fact, one democrat, joe

manchin of west virginia announced yesterday that he opposed them. still, this is the first time in a long time that these senators will be put on the record with an up or down vote. >> yeah. still a steep climb, as you said, nancy. thank you. now to the desperate situation at the southern border. we are getting a new look at some of the, treatment risks immigrants are taking to get into the u.s. manuel bojorquez is in mexico. what have you seen? good morning. here in juarez, we gained access to one smuggler's operation, take a look. it's complete with ladders to get over the walls and keep an eye out for border patrol. he's passed 80 people over the wall. his price, about $1,000 for a chance to cross. a few migrant families echoed the desperation that many are feeling. we hear the same themes. they are fleeing violence, poverty or the effects of natural disasters. cbs news has learned that due to

strained capacity along one sector of the boarder in texas, customs and border protection has started to release some migrant families without notices to appear in court. those families have been instructed to check in with i.c.e. at a later date. >> manny, thank you very much. coming up, we'll speak exclusively with vice president kamala harris about the influx of migrants at the border and the rise in attacks

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there is so much to discuss, so we'll get started. >> okay. >> listen, it's clear that the president's intention and his frustration are very clear. but the reality is you guys just don't have the votes. so what's your move? >> well, on the issue of gun violence, let's just be very clear. we are seeing tragedy after tragedy after tragedy. we are now learning the names of the ten people in colorado including that police officer who was -- who ran in to fire in terms of gunfire. a father of seven children. we are looking in atlanta and all of those folks who -- all of them at the grocery store, in these establishments, going about their lives. >> i know the personal stories are heartbreaking. the personal stories -- >> but gayle, here's why i mention it -- here's why i

mention it -- because i'm going to tell you something, i've been working on this for a long time. i actually thought that sandy hook would have been the thing that moved congress. when 20 of and 7-year-old babies were slaughtered, and they did not act. they did not act. it is time for congress to act. and stop with the false choices. this is not about getting rid of the second amendment. it's simply about saying we need reasonable gun safety laws. there is no reason why we have assault weapons on the streets of a civil society. they are weapons of war. they are designed to kill a lot of people quickly. >> yeah. we all agree. >> let us all agree that we need background checks. the point here is congress needs to act. and on the house side, they did. there are two bills which the president is prepared to sign, and so we need the senate to act. and this is going to be about your viewers and all of us pleading to the reason, pleading to the hearts and minds of the people in the united states senate to say enough with the

partisanship, enough with the ideological perspective on this. let's just be practical and agree. people who will have been found to be a danger to themselves and others should not be able to purchase a gun. >> what will the biden administration do? we keep hearing about executive action. what does that mean, madam vice president? >> what it means is that we need to take action. but gayle, let's be clear about this -- there is the piece about executive action, but if we pass legislation, it's permanent. if we -- if the congress acts, then it becomes law. and that is what we have lacked. that is what has been missing. we need universal background checks. you know, various states have done it. but there's no universal approach to this. and so what ends up happening, people with move from one state to another depending on what the law is. we need to have a federal standard. that is going to be accomplished by the way we have structured our democracy, when the united states congress acts. the house has acted. now it's in the hands of the senate. >> but madam -- >> the president is prepared to sign it.

>> madam vice president, as it stands right now, you do not have the votes. failing that, is the president prepared to take executive action? >> we should first expect the united states congress to act. i'm not willing to give up on what we must do to appeal to the hearts and minds and the reason of the members of the united sttes senate. i served in that body, and i believe that it is possible, it has to be possible that people agree that these slaughters have to stop. and this is, again, reject the false choices, stop pushing it for sure. stop pushing the false choice that this means everybody's trying to come after your guns. that is not what we're talking about. >> yeah. yeah. most reasonable people get that. ted cruz said something interesting yesterday. he called this conversation ridiculous theater, that the gun laws that are being proposed, the change, would have done nothing to stop those shootings. does he have a point? is this a uniquely american

failure? does he have a point? >> well, this is what every time there is a slaughter, a mass shooting, someone who does not want to be accountable for what we need to do says, well, that wouldn't have prevented this thing. you know, arguably if you took this approach to any law, you would argue that we shouldn't pass any laws that are designed to protect the health and well-being of the american people. listen, yet again we have a situation where there are seven children who have lost their father. >> yes. >> where there are families in two big states of our country who are mourning the loss forever will be without their family members, their friends, who were innocent, who were going about their lives, and were gunned down. and guys, i want to be -- again, i'm going to start with where -- where i started. i thought sandy hook would be -- >> but it didn't -- >> compelled everyone and it didn't. >> i agree with you.

but it didn't. and my question is, how do you change minds in the state? you were in the senate. you know -- >> elections matter. elections matter. and you know, there are a bunch of folks, moms demand action, a bunch of folks from gabby giffords to the brady folks who -- >> we heard -- madam vice president -- >> joined them and let's say that we're going to hold our elected people accountable if they're not going to be with us on what we need in terms of reasonable gun safety laws. >> but madam vice president, we heard from the head of moms demand action earlier in the broadcast who said the president has it in his power to do something right now. >> and the president has said he is prepared to sign legislation. >> but he can also take executive action. >> i don't think the president is excluding that. but again, i want to be clear that if we really want something that is going to be lasting, we need to pass legislation. >> all right. vice president harris, stay with us. we want to ask but your personal

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vice president kamala harris is still with us as our exclusive interview with her continues. madam vice president, these are such difficult times. we were all still reeling from the shootings in atlanta. the flags have been lowered half mast, and back up and now lowered again for what happened in colorado. many are frustrated about the shooting in atlanta because it has not been called a hate crime. should it be? >> listen, i mean, gayle, look,

you've got six asian american women in asian american businesses, and you know, just when you look at it, you have to ask this question which is what is going on? and the seriousness of api hate crime, especially over the course of the last year, is profound. people are being assaulted, people are being -- cursed out, people are being treated -- people are being denied service because they are asian american. and look, i think we have to be clear that we have a history in america that we need to deal with, a history that included the chinese exclusion act as a law, that we interned japanese aericans who also fought for the liberties of americans in war. and we have this rise in hate

crimes. when i was attorney general, california, i published a hate crime report every year. it's not new, but it has grown, and it must be confronted and dealt with. >> what do we do? >> well, what do we do, a number of things. one, we have to hold the people who commit hate crimes accountable. >> yes. >> we also need to speak the truth about our history and not gloss over it. we need to also talk about what we must do to really think about how we define who is an american and understand that it is the very essence of the strength of our nation that we are a land of immigrants, people who have come from around the globe here and have contributed to our vitality, our strength. and all people are part of that. the chinese helped build the railroads of america. >> isn't it part of holding people accountable, though, at least calling it a hate crime? i think in atlanta, it's been now a week, they still aren't calling it what -- it's like if

it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, smells like a duck, it's a duck. there's been reluctance to call it that. >> i'm not prosecuted that case. so -- >> i know -- go right. i've spoken very clearly about it which is exactly that we -- we are looking at a situation where asian women have been killed. let's also talk about the reality of race and sex in terms of the intersectionality of it all and what we have seen in terms of crimes against asian women in particular in our country recently and historically. >> yeah. your voice matters in this conversation. >> madam vice president, the white house has been criticized by members of its own party for not having enough asian americans in the high levels of the government. senator tammy duckworth in particular very critical of the absence there. what's being done to change that? are there enough? >> yeah -- anthony, you're right. first of all, let's just speak truth. representation matters. and when you look at the

composition of the united states congress, less than 4% of those serving in congress are asian american, aapi, asian american and pacific islander. you look at the ceos of our major companies and corporations in america, less than 3% are asian american and aapi. so we need to talk about this. representation matters. and we've got to address it. we are very proud that among our cabinet we have majority people of color. we are very -- it's historic in that way. we are proud that we have an equal number of women and men. but there's still more work to be done. there's no question about that. >> let's look at what's happening at the border. rightly or wrongly, people are coming in record numbers because they believe the biden administration has encouraged certainly children to come. what are you going to do about that? it's chaotic, some are calling it a crisis. and you all, your team is under fire because both republicans and democrats said, look, if you're going to change the trump policy, the previous policy, at least have a game plan. there doesn't appear right now

to be a game plan. >> well, okay, look, it's a huge problem. i'm not going to pretend it's not. it's a huge problem. and are there -- are we looking at overcrowding at the border in particular of these kids? yes. >> yes. >> should these kids be in the custody of hhs, the health and human services instead of the border patrol, yes. should we be processing these cases faster, yes. this is, however, not going to be solved overnight. there are things that we need to do, especially since there was a system in place previously, before last administration, to allow us to process these kids in their country of origin. that was dismantled. we've to reconstruct it. it's not going to happen overnight. but you know, we have senior administration officials now in mexico and guatemala also dealing with in addition what needs to happen at the border -- >> will you and the president be going to the border any time soon? >> at some point -- absolutely we will go down to the border. i've been down to the border.

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navigate this tight market. >> first, here's today's eye opener. >> we'll remember some of the victims today. the dead range in age from 20 to 65 years old. this is the control the officer used to drive to the scene. the officer. >> the press reports that family members have also told police they think the suspect is suffering from a mental illness. >> we're told the white house is looking at various actions. the president could take on his own, but know that legislation is more binding and long-lasting than executive action. let's be clear about this. there is the piece about executive action, but if we pass legislation, it's permanent. if the congress acts, then it becomes law. >> memorials across boulder, colorado, in honor of those ten people killed at the boulder police station, flowers covering that patrol vehicle of the

officer. >> he cared about this community. he cared about the boulder police department. he cared about his family. he was willing to die to protect others. >> he was the first story you heard and the more you hear, what an amazing man. seven children from 7 -- the youngest one was 7. he wanted to now start training in drones. >> so he wouldn't be in the line of fire. >> got the call and ran in. >> all the stories are heart breaking. >> it's true. and this morning we're learning more about the ten victims killed in that senseless mass shooting in the supermarket. they range in ages from 20 to 65. they include a veteran police officer, employees at the grocery store where the shooting took place, and a young man who wanted to be a pilot.

the suspect, a 21-year-old, faces ten counts of first degree murder for allegedly killing people with a weapon he bought six days before the shooting. >> the violence has inspired and renewed the debate over gun laws in this country. earlier on "cbs this morning" we spoke about that with vice president kamala harris. >> it's time for congress to act and stop with the false choices. this is not about getting rid of the second amendment. it's simply about saying we need reasonable gun safety laws. there's no reason why we have assault weapons on the street of a civil society. they are designed to kill a lot of people quickly. >> they so often do. our lead national correspondent is in boulder, colorado, for us. we're going to stay with the victims. he spoke to two friends of one of them. good morning to you, david. >> i had a chance to speak with janet and hope cotton. they were very good friends with lynn murray, one of the victims. lynn lived an interesting life. lived in a few different places

in the country over the course of her life. worked for fashion magazines in new york city, drove for uber and recently was working for instacart. you shop for someone else and deliver the groceries to them. hope saw lynn inside the grocery store. in fact, they had a chance to visit. hope checked out, got home, and then heard about the shooting and thought oh, no, i wonder if lynn is still inside. and she was. >> she was smiling. we were laughing just talking about cauliflower and like this is a good order. quick $50. >> this is hope cotton. she told us about the last time she saw family friend lynn murray minutes before the shooting started. >> i checked out, and by the time i got here, my little called me frantically and just clicked to me. i was like lynn wasn't at the cash register yet. i told my mom, lynn is in there still.

when it left my mouth, i was like oh, no. she turned to her phone to start texting lynn. >> now the cottons spoke with lynn's family letting them know that she was still inside the store. hours after the rampage was over, janet, along with lynn's husband and other victim's families were all gathered together waiting for answers about their loved ones, but those answers didn't come for more than 12 hours. >> i said to whoever the police officer was, who was in charge of the meeting, i said okay, well, let's just assume there's ten people, and one of them was a police officer, and so there's nine people. and they're all gathered in the room. we're going to go around and count how many families are here. so everybody looked at each other and they're like nine. >> janet says it was just after 3:00 a.m. the next morning that the coroner's office called lynn's husband to tell him that she was gone. >> stomach in knots. trembling.

just everything you do when you're just, like, trying to keep it cool, but you're letting it -- like the worst feelings. and i mean, i love lynn. really still do dearly. >> and how are you dealing with the loss? >> this is my mom's best friend of 20 years. i just want lynn's legacy to not be this moment. for none of these people. their legacies, they're like names of people on a list, like, these are real souls that are loved and will continue to be loved now that they're not here anymore. >> you know, hope was telling us that lynn murray and her family lived just right up the hill from the grocery store. so they said david, every time the family leaves home from here on out, they're going to have to drive by this grocery store, right by the crime scene where lynn died. think about that. >> i was wondering about that, david. i mean, there's a picture that we keep seeing on the news.

you showed it of the bride, the way she's looking at her dad who is no longer with us, and we learn she's now pregnant. it's the stories that get me every time. thank you very much, david. colorado state representative tom sullivan ran for office after his son was killed in the mass shooting at a movie theater in aurora, colorado. state representative tom sullivan joins us now. representative sullivan, thank you so much for joining us. i'm telling you, it is the stories that get to me. i remember reading about your son. i remember hearing about his story. these people went to the grocery store. your son went to the movie theater. nothing, nothing can prepare you for these kind of moments. so can you help us understand what the families are going through now? you've been there. >> absolutely. i mean, to hear that, i mean, she said it. it was 12 hours before they got the notification, and that was what it took for us.

our shooting happened at 12:38 in the morning. we didn't get notification until 8:10:00 p.m. so you know, that was my concern. you know, how are they going to be? they talked about the room. we sat in the exact same room with all of the families in different sections getting briefings, trying to keep it together. you know, it's -- yeah. it's just -- yeah. >> it's awful. it's awful, tom. what helped you most, and what is your message for the families now who are in so much pain? >> well, one of the things that i try to remember to let them know is that right now you need the people that you trust, the people that you love. that's who needs to be around you. that's who you need to reach out to. there are good intentioned people around, but, you know, when the cameras leave and the lights are dimmed again, it's going to be you and then again, and that's who needs to remember, and quite frankly, i

need to tell you, it takes a special friend to walk into that room that you're sitting in with nine other families waiting for that word, and you -- you truly know who you can count on. someone who would walk into that room who has no reason other than their love for you. >> i would like to talk a bit about the possible legislative response to this. mayor weaver of boulder told us earlier he thought a national assault weapons banned would have helped. i presume you agree. but when you talk to republican lawmakers in your state in colorado, what kind of response to do you get when you bring up what some consider common sense gun control legislation? >> they're spreading fear. this is their thing. to spread fear. they had report setting number of firearm transfers here in the state of colorado last year. we had over 500,000 of them

transfer. yesterday we had a hearing on reporting of lost and stolen firearms of which 60% of them already do it. and when we brought that up, their first thing was to say this was the beginning of registration. they were comparing us to nazis for doing something like this and quite frankly, 60% of them are doing it already and no one is confiscating their firearms. no one is coming and getting them. that's what they tell people, and the flood gates are opening to go and buy more firearms because someone is coming to get you. >> that's an unfortunate echo in the aftermath of events like this. there's a tragedy and conversation about reform efforts. and then there's a rush to go out and buy more firearms. we heard an argument from senator ted cruz yesterday that these proposed changes to gun legislation wouldn't, in fact, stop tragedies like the one we saw on monday. what's your response to that? >> all of these collectively,

all of these types of things, what they do is save lives. and that's what i'm in the business of from the day my son was murdered to the day i'm not here any longer. i'm doing everything i can to save lives. >> yeah. >> and it's -- there's no perfect answer. there's no pill that's going to stop this. there's not one law that will stop this, but each one will help us save lives. >> and i want to end talking about your son, tom. because you couldn't have known on that day whenever it was that that might have been your last conversation with him. how do you keep him close? >> well, i have his jacket that i wear every day when i go down to the state capitol on the real tough days i wear it on the floor with me. you know, i can see his eyes. i can see that smile. i would just tell those people you know, hang onto the voice. if you've got any text messages,

you've got any phone messages they left. that's the first thing you lose. it's difficult to try to hear him anymore. >> hang on to the voices. >> yeah. >> steve hartman is a correspondent here who does one of the best human interest stories i think ever. and one thing he said after the las vegas shooting i think he said, we know this song, so what do we do? we mourn, pray repeat, we mourn, pray, repeat. i look forward to the day when we don't have to play that song anymore. thank you for the work you're doing. >> thank you. >> thank you, tom sullivan. ahead we'll talk about the housing market this spring and why it is such a challenge for buyers in some areas

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9% depending whether it's an existing or new home. the real critical issue that has plagued the housing market is a lack of supply. as you said, down nearly 30% for existing homes. some economists believe that's even understating the problem. so when you have a ton of people coming into the market, a limited supply, prices are indeed higher. and you know, all that limited supply, anthony, also exacerbated by the fact that some boomers didn't want to list their homes in the middle of a pandemic. and when you look to new homes, unfortunately the price in new homes is also rising, not only because of a lack of supply but the actual cost of the materials, whether it's crude oil that's used in paint, it could be copper used in the lines. all put together, prices are indeed higher. and a lot higher for many would-be buyers. >> jill, a lot of people relocated because of the pandemic. what's the long-term impact going to be on the housing

market do you think? >> well, i think it really depends. you know, a lot of people were at home whether working at home because their companies put them home or because they were home with their kids, they looked around, they wanted space. now here we are at hopefully the end of the pandemic with kids going back to school. now the question really becomes, what will happen? and i think that the move that we've seen is from the big cities to sprawling suburbs. now we're looking at smaller cities. it could be austin, charlotte, nashville. and some of these even smaller cities are providing cash incentives to get you to move. there are websites that will hook up buyers with these incentives. and fascinating, places like baltimore right outside d.c., you can get $5,000 toward the purchase of a new home there. >> how do you know what you can afford in this market, jill? >> it's so boring when i say

this -- but it's run the numbers. >> yeah. >> you know, i'm sorry to say that because it's still the case. look, there's principal, there's interest, there's your homeowner's insurance, there's your taxes. don't forget every homeowner will tell you, don't forget to add in the maintenance. 1% to 3% of that purchase price has to go in there. and you've got to make sure that you account for these factors and make sure you're not going to preclude yourself from achieving other financial goals. maybe that's paying down your student loan debt, maybe actually it could be that you need to be saving more for retirement. so weigh those factors. >> all good advice. jill schlesinger, thank you very much. ahead, the battle against zoom burnout. how

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welcome back to "cbs this morning." it's that time again, time to bring "talk of the table" this morning. gayle's going first. >> you do not want to read? >> i forgot it was me -- >> all the sudden -- brian's going, ahhh. okay. i'm going first. here's a question -- are suffering from zoom fatigue? >> yes. >> yes. >> yes. then you might like jane frazer's idea. ceo of citigroup. she told her staff the other day that she is banning internal video calls on fridays to help workers set boundaries. in a memo she wrote this, "the blurring of lines between home and work and the relentlessness of this pandemic workday have

taken a toll on our well-being. it is simply not sustainable." you go, jane frazier. she's encouraging workers to take their vacations. >> i like jane frazier. >> i like her, too. she said it isn't good for you, it isn't good for -- ultimately not good for citi bank. and also, a return to any kind of normal is still, she said, a few months away. i like how she's even thinking about it. >> yeah. >> you know, it reminds me of what you said about the four-day workweek a couple of days ago. this is going to be good for productivity. >> yes. >> at citigroup. likely. >> yes, yes, yes. i would like to elevate into the national television broadcast conversation an internet dispute over what to some eyes appears to be shrimp tails in a box of cinnamon toast crunch. now -- >> gross. >> i do have a solution to this dispute. first, here's the background -- jensen carp, a man in l.a., posted this picture to twitter on monday. cinnamon toast crunch said in reply that that is not shrimp tails, that appears, in fact, to be a build-up of cinnamon sugar

that sometimes can occur when ingredients are not thoroughly blended. jensen, however, was not willing to believe that. take a look at these pictures. take a good, hard look. >> yep. >> jensen was not willing to believe that. he wrote in reply to the good people at cinnamon toast crunch, these are cinnamon coated shrimp tails, you weirdos. >> i like that -- wasn't that mad until you tried to gas light -- >> cinnamon toast crunch said in their final reply, we are still investigating this matter. however, we can already say with confidence that this did not occur at our facility. >> at our facility. >> we have a dispute here. it's a -- a cereal said/man said situation. >> they appear to be acknowledging that that's strange, whatever it is. >> it is strange. >> it does look like shrink t tata shrimp test. >> he doesn't trust them. my solution is to send it to an independent body known as cbs

news. we will taste and test and conclude. >> and by we you mean you. >> i mean me. possible anna werner, our consumer investigative correspondent. we have tongues, we can try it first. >> i wouldn't want to taste it. it does look very eerily like shrink. >> i'm 100% serious, send us that sample. we will get to the bottom of it. >> curious what cinnamon-coated shrimp tail would taste like. >> how expensive could it be? >> all right. "sesame street" has introduced two new black muppets to address race and racism. >> things on the outside like our skin color, our hair texture, our noses, our mouths and eyes, make us who we are. many people call this race. but even though we look different, we're all part of the human race. >> the muppets, 5-year-old wesley walker and his father elijah, joined elmo for a straightforward conversation

about race. the clip is part of a new digital content series produced by "sesame street" called "the abcs of racial literacy." >> i love this. >> i love it. >> i think it might surprise people because the muppets were always different colors, blue, red, green, whatever, and you didn't think race was an issue. this is a different approach for them. what happened apparently is after last summer with all the racial unrest around the murder of george floyd, someone from "sesame street" said we collectively as an organization decided the only way we could go about dismantling racism was by being bold and explicit. we need to define racism for 3-year-olds who is going to address this but "sesame street." love their approach. >> hate is taught. so that would be great for them to see that. we are turning now to the growing outrage over the rise in anti-asian hate crimes in this country. actress olivia munn is speaking out saying it just can't be open season on asian americans. over theweekend, as thousands of people across the country protested anti-asian racism, there were four more attacks

against asian americans right here in new york city. one of the victims was leaving a protest with her young daughter. this follows deadly shootings at three atlanta-area spas. eight people were killed there including six asian women. there have been nearly 3,800 hate incidents against asian americans reported since last march, in a year. that number could be higher because not all the incidents are tallied. olivia munn joins us now to discuss. olivia, it's really good to see you. this is such an important conversation. i like what you have said in the past. you said this, "we are living in a country that attacking us simply for being us," i think that statement is very powelrfu. how are you processing this an

we're supposed to do. >> well did you take note on the chat when the flags were lowered in this country at half staff? that's never happened before. what did you all say about that? >> yes. that was an extremely emotional moment for all of us. we all just took a moment and i think a lost us cried. i cried. it was really important to have such a -- an important position in the world actually say that we see what's happening, we see

your pain, and we want to acknowledge it. and we have just gone for so long feeling so invisible, and our pain has been invisible. and the attacks on our community have been invisible. and to have the president of the united states say that he sees us made us feel that we were seen just maybe just a little bit more. >> can you give us an example exactly of the pain? i think until that -- listen, we've been reporting for the past year, but i think until that shooting happened, the spa, it was like a wake-up call for many people to say what is the problem here. what is happening? can you give some examples of why this is so important, some of the egregious things that have happened and are happening. >> well, since the pandemic was weaponized against asian americans, we have had a target on our back. and there has been so much violence against us -- i mean, the whole world, we all went into a lockdown. that was extremely frustrating for all of us.

and then we had our former president give people an actual target to put out their frustrations. that was on the asian americans in our country, and to say it's their fault. and so we've had this target on our back, and like you had said earlier that i had said, which is it can't be open season on asians. and it has been. and we have been beaten, slashed, shot, murdered, attacked, screamed at, and -- and it feels like we are screaming into an echo chamber. and no one has been hearing us. we've been crying and pleading out for people to hear us and to help us. and then it comes down to what happened in atlanta. and you know, in our group, we -- we've been talking about it a lot. like what does it -- how many dead bodies will it take for people to care. and it turns out that it takes eight. >> olivia, you're absolutely

right, it's taken us too long to notice. it really has. i want to ask you, you mentioned your mom being scared to go out. and i've heard that from a lot of people. you've also said your mom taught you to speak out for what's right. but don't cause trouble. and i've heard from some asian american friends who said, you know, because of this sort of culture of being -- of being more quiet they've struggled to find their voice but are finding it now. i'm wondering how you're feeling about that. >> that's right. my mom is a viet refugee. i'm first-generation american. when my mother and her eight siblings and her mother came to america, they didn't speak any english. and they all came here and all went off and got multiple degrees. i have an uncle who worked for nasa, an uncle who's a top engineer at ford, aunts and uncle uncles who became doctors. they became great citizens of america. they really wanted to add to the fabric of our country. but throughout that, there has been this underlying kind of lesson in our life which was

don't cause any waves. because as second-class citizens in our own country, the idea that any of our pain or our frustrations or anything could cause any waves or ripples or create any more tension on to us was a really bad thing. and that's what we've seen with the culture with asians in our country and why there's so much underrepresent -- under reporting because we've littery been taught to keep it on the chin and keep going. that to simply exist in this country is enough. that we were not even asking to be seen as full human beings. and the fact that the younger generation, my generation, we're seeing what's happening, we were raised right by our parents. and now it's our turn to say to them, look, you paved all these roads for us, now it's time for us to take you back to the front of these roads and walk down with you and show youhat you can be safe in this country and that you deserve to be in this

country. >> olivia, thank you so much for being with us this morning. we really appreciate you sharing all this with us. olivia munn. such an important thing to

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politics. washington's deep divisions are again on display this week over how to respond to the mass shooting in colorado, including gun legislation that is unlikely to pass a closely divided senate. in the face of seemingly insurmountable disagreements, two female senators are determined to find common grounds on at least some issues. west virginia republican shelley moore capito, and nevada democrat jacky rosen are sharing their secrets to success. their relationship is finding common ground. it can be feel like washington doesn't work. >> washington is completely -- >> reporter: and certainly doesn't work together. >> obstruction, obstruction.

>> reporter: but two senators from opposite sides of the aisle and country say they're not as far apart as you think. >> you hear from nevada, hear from west virginia, what's the connection? >> we get together, we leave our politics and our pocketbooks at the door. and we talk about the things that really are important to us as women. >> and i think we're doers. i think we like to get results. >> reporter: and so far they have. whether it's working on legislation to expand broadband or create more science and technology opportunities for girls. according to a pro-publica analysis of their voting records in last congress, the democrat and republican duo agreed about as often as they disagreed, 49% to 51%. >> that's probably better than with our husbands, i don't know. actually, i think we get the 51% on the husband side. >> let's take the 49% where we agree, and that's where we need to put our work. i would say we sort of avoid the

really high, intensity disagreements that we know we're always going to have. >> we don't have to be disagreeable when we disagree. we can focus on the things we agree on. that's why people send us here. that's what they expect from their leadership. >> reporter: you all make it sound so easy in terms of bipartisanship. what are you doing that some of your colleagues aren't? >> i think honestly if you're asking where i think some of our other colleagues, unnamed, could improve, i think the way we disagree sometimes is very disrespectful. >> bipartisan effort -- >> reporter: years ago, retired maryland senator barbara mikulski started the tradition of organizing bipartisan dinners just for senate women. and they've kept them going. >> i'd love to see the whole senate do some rotating dinners where you had to sit at tables with people that you didn't talk to, hear about their families, and that's the way you build bridges to getting things done. >> reporter: but the pandemic has taken those dinners off the table. >> everything's pretty much

virtual. we haven't well a virtual dinner, though. maybe we ought to try that. >> reporter: covid isn't the only challenge that's had a profound impact. so did january 6th. >> we saw the rioters climbing up the capitol wall. and we barricaded in our offices. >> i was actually on the floor. the sentinel moment to me was -- they're taking the vice president out of here. [ chants ] and that's when everything just sort of fell apart. >> reporter: what was going through your head? >> i thought about 9/11. because i was here on 9/11. i not that's when i -- i think that's the realization this is big. >> reporter: why don't you think congress can rally around that? when you draw comparisons to 9/11, you look back at how the country rallied then. >> i can hear you -- >> reporter: but an issue of this magnitude, why still the divide? >> on 9/11, we had an external force coming in on us. this is something within our own

country. and maybe a little tougher to heal. >> i would almost argue that we should go into closed door session and each person might share how they wifelt that day. which could be the next big test for lawmakers. gayle? >> i like how they're thinking. they should tell the men, leave your politics and your pocketbooks, and set and talk. lot gets done. thank you. on today's "cbs this morning" podcast we're talking to founder and editor-in-chief of "the information" which covers the tech industry. she discusses the future. remote work. we'll be right back.k. we'll be right back. if youou smell gasas, you'rere too closese. leave the e structure,e, call , keep p people awayay,

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