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watch cbs in bay area with the kpix 5 news app. >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington, and this week on "face the nation," as president biden prepares to unveil the next phase of hispeconomic e continuing threat of covid and a growing crisis at the border may complicate his plans. health officials are warning americans the virus could be heading in the wrong direction as new cases of covid continue to plateau as high levels every day. >> if we don't control things now, there is a real potential for the epidemic curve again. >> brennan: it comes as president biden sets new ambitious vaccine goals, promising 200 million shots in his first 100 days. >> biden: twice our original goal, and no
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other country and the world has even come close. >> brennan: can we vaccinate quickly enough to put the pandemic to rest? we'll check in with dr. anthony fauci and dr. scott gottlieb. and theeuati along the u.s.-mexico border. a surge of migrants has overwhelmed some shelters in the region. the president grew defensive when pressed by reporters. >> is what is happening inside acceptable you, and when is this going to be fixed? >> biden: that's a serious question, right? is it acceptable me? c'mon. that's why we'll be moving a thousand of those kids out quickly. >> it is a crisis that was own policies.e bideniotheir >> brennan: lawmakers leak their own images while journalists are barred from visiting many of the overcrowded facilities. we'll hear from congressman henry cuellar, who shared with us these
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new exclusive phot foes photos frominside ay.m wust eleed to late sband whseda plus, fewer industries were hit harder by this pandemic than tourism and travel. we'll speak with the c.e.o. of marriott's president, to anthony capuano. it is all ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> brennan: good morning, and welcome to "face the nation." this weekend the race to vaccinate america marks a new milestone: the daily number doses dministereis recvete tmp up in vaccinations, infections are also on the rise in 30 states, plus washington, d.c. we begin with senior
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national correspondent mark strassmann. [yelling] >> reporter: covid immunity, to these california seniors, it is a shot of liberation in the season of renewal. >> it gives you a feeling of normalcy again. >> reporter: on saturday alone, nearly 3.5 million americans got the covid vaccine, a single day record. across the country, more than 50 million adults, roughly one in five, now fully vaccinated. clearly it is progress. now here comes the disclaimer. >> too many people feel like the pandemic is over. >> reporter: emologists worry wit immunity with invulnerable. t.s.a. agents screen one million fliers every day. >> watch out for miami beach. get tested before you come back. >> reporter: in michigan, new cases over the last week jumped more than 50% and climbed generally in new england
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and the great lakes region, where it is colder. despite pleas from health officials, 17 states now don't have masking requirements, even though the virus still kills roughly 1,000 more americans every day. >> i remain deeply concerned about this trajectory. please take this moment very seriously. >> reporter: and covid complicates the u.s. response along the mexican border. the daily surge of more central american arrivals, refugees from squalor and gun violence. >> we also saw a group of children who just today tested positive for ovid >> reer: images from congressmen show overcrowded border crossings. packed facilities are challenged by covid protocols.naccompanied childrene allowed to stay, and hundreds have tested positive. fema is helping put up more temporary housing. bob fenton talked to us about the challenge. >> we have to find the right facility.
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we need to have the staffing for the facility to be able to feed and take care of them and provide the wrap-around care services for them. >> reporter: officially the biden administration won't label its struggle to control theb no question: cod remains a continuing one in america. at mass vaccination sites like this one in atlanta, georgia this week became the sixth state to offer shots to anyone 16 and up. universal eligibility, all adults, and that is the goal. and more than 40 states have committed to it by may 1st. margaret? >> brennan: mark strassmann, thank you. we go to the president's chief medical advisor, dr. anth. good morning to you, doctor. >> doctor: good morning, margaret. >> brennan: you have been warning all month we're stuck, we're plateauing at a high level. jsey, msachusetts, we're seeing spikes. what is driving these
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infections? is it the new variants? >> doctor: well, you know, the variants are playing a part, but it is not completely the variants. what we're liking seeing is because of things like spring break and pulling back on the mitigation methods that you've seen now. several states have done that. i believe it is premature, margaret, because as i've said many times to you, when you're coming down from a big peak and up reach a point and start to plateau, once you stay at that plateau, you're in danger of a surge coming up. and, unfortunately, that's what we're starting to see. we got stuck at around country.en i our own and that's exactly what has happene europe, in several of the countries in the european union, where they plateaued and then started to come back. and that's why we say it really is almost a race between getting people
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vaccinated and having this peak that we may want to see and we don't want to see that. it isn't just the variants. variants we take seriously and are concerned about, but it is not only the variants that are doing that. >> brennan: the c.d.c. director said this week it is not the time to travel. what specifically is the problem with travel? >> doctor: well, when you see travel -- and what dr. rochelle walensky was referring to, whenever we see surges in travel, be that around the holidays or certain situations like we did over the christmas and new year's holidays and other types of holidays, you get congregation of people. even on the planes, people are wearing masks, and when you get to the airport, the check-in line, the food lines for restaurants, the boarding that you see, how people sometimes can be congregating together. those are the kind of things that invariably increase the risk of getting infected.
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that's what she was referring to. the travel phenomenon in general does that. >> brennan: it is still high risk then. when you were last with us -- sd yoecids kely wouldn't best wu vaccinated until the first quarter of 2022. for parents, we're trying to plan their summers. what does that mean? can they send their kids to summer camp? can they allow them to play again on playgrounds? >> doctor: you know, it is conceivable that that will be possible, margaret, because what we're seeing is, you know -- as you just mentioned in the piece, we have three to 3.5 million vaccinations each day. if we kee up at that pace, that is going to draw the rate and the level infections per day to a much, much lower level. if we get into the summer and you have a considerable percentage of the population vaccinated, and the level in the
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community gets below that plateau that is worrying me and my colleagues in public health, it is conceivable that you have a good degree of flexibility during the summer, even with the children, with things like camps. we don't know that for sure, but i think that's an aspirational goal we should go for. >> brennan: so if parents are vaccinated, they still do need to be concerned about their unvaccinated children playing together in groups? is that right? >> doctor: yeah, the children can clearly wind up getting infected. when we talk about what you can do when you're vaccinated, you can certainly have members of a family, if the adults are vaccinated, and you're in the home with your child, you don't need to wear a mask and you can have physical contact. when you children go out into the community, you want them to continue to wear masks when they're interacting with groups from multiple households. >> brennan: people are excited about the return
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of big events. baseball, for example, is coming back next week. when would you feel comfortable attending, in a stadium? >> doctor: you know, what i think you're going to see, margaret, is you're going to see an incremental relaxation of some of the restrictions. as we get into the late spring and early summer, we're going to have a greater proportion of the population that will have been vaccinated. as you mentioned in the beginning of the piece, there are 50 million people in this country that are fully vaccinated. that's a lot of people. and every de. i would expect that as we get through the summer, late spring/early summer, there is going to be a relaxation, where you'll have more and more people who will be allowed into baseball parks. very likely separated with seating, very likely continuing to wear masks. as we get a really, really low level of infection,
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you're going to start seeing the pulling back on some of those restrictions. i hope, and i think, that is going to happen. if we get the vaccines at the rate we're doing, that will happen. >> brennan: what about you, are you going back to the baseball park to throw out an opening pitch again this year? [laughter] >> doctor: well, i certainly missed the mets. i'm looking forward to this season. i hope we have a situation where we can get out to the park and we can get a limited number at first, but then more and more people into the ballpark. >> brennan: i mean your own pitching arm, from last year. but (laughing) i'm just teasing you there. [laughter] >> brennan: i want to ask you about this forthcoming report from the world health organization, but also specifically guidance from the chief of the world health organization this week, who h endorsed this idea that intellectual property rights for pharmaceutical companies that produce the covid vaccines, that those should be waived.
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south africa has asked for this. india has asked for this. do you expect the white house to get on board and waive patent protections for pharma companies? >> doctor: margaret, i can't go out and say what the white house ultimately going to do. i can tell you everything is on the table. discussions on every aspect of this. as you know, we're playing a major role in helping other countries get vaccination. we have the $4 billion pledge we have going into this. we joined covax. we have given away surplus vaccines to mexico and canada, and we will be c m e. but with rerd to the intellectual property, that is something we always will consider and keep that open. >> brennan: we'll watch what happens. on the report t is forthcoming from the world health organization, it is supposed to be about the origins of covid. and the biden administration has been clear that they are concerned that beijing helped write it. i want to play for you a
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sound byte from a scientist named dr. jamie metzel, who spoke to 60 minutes and said that the w.h.o. did not even ask for key samples of the virus. >> it was agreed, first, that china would have veto power over who even got to be on the mission. secondly -- >> the w.h.o. agreed to that? >> w.h.o. agreed to that. on top of that, the w.h.o. agreed that in most instances china would do the primary investigation and just share its findings with these international experts. so these international experts weren't allowed to do their own primary investigation. >> wait. you're saying that china did the investigation and showed the results to the committee and that was it? >> pretty much that was it. not entirely, but pretty much that was it. imagine if we had asked the soviet union to do a co-investigation of chernobyl? it doesn't really make
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sense. >> brennan: do you expect this world health organization report to be a whitewash? >> doctor: i don't know, margaret. what i would like to do is first see the report. i think that is really important. you're getting a lot of conjecture around about what they did and what they were allowed to do. no one is speaking specifically about that. when the report comes out, i would like to take a really close look at that. if, in fact, obviously, there was a lot of restrictions on the ability of the people who went there to really take a look, then i'm going to have some considerable concern about that. but let me take a look at the report first. >> brennan: what is your opinion on how covid became so well-adaptive to humans? >> doctor: margaret, that is an argument that goes back and forth. a very plausible explation for this is that this virus jumped from animal, maybe a bat, and then to a human. and we didn't see it.
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we being, at first, the chinese. and it was under the radar screen. we know that infections, many of them, are without symptoms. it is conceivable that it was spreading considerable for weeks, if not months, before we recognized it at the end of the december. giving it plenty of time to adapt to a human. that would really be completely consistent with just jumping species in the wild. the other theory that people have is that somehow it did that in a lab and it accidentally escaped. those are just varying opinions. i think the most likely one is that in nature, in the while, it adapteel >>an: l righau'recknowlgre, ooni we'll continue to it. dr. fauci, thank you for your opinion and your perspective. "face the nation" will be back in one minute with texas congressman henry cuellar. stay with us.
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surge of migrants at the southern border. more than 18,000 unaccompanied children are being held in federal custody. pictures show children waiting o be processed, held in overcrowded conditions, sitting on the floor, with foil blankets. these images have been shared with us by congressman henry cuellar of texas, a democrat, who joins us from laredo. good morning to you, ongres. >> good morningo of pictures that you have shared with us, and start with some of the others. the pictures that we want to put up on screen right here, you say that they show dozens of young girls who have been held for far longer than the 72-hour legal time limit. why are these young girls being held for thathere are ty ?
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what is their status? >> first of all, border patrol does not want to keep people there more than 74 hours. but there are two factors that come in place: one, there is a large number of people coming across every single day. groups of over 100 individuals coming into the border patrol custody. number two, the flow-through, through h.h.s., they're moving and they're trying to get more shelters open, for example, the one in san diego, the one in carrizo springs. so they've got to flow those people out as soon as possible. what we're seeing is at first theriority was g boys. for example, carrizo springs has young boys from 13 to 17. san diego is going to be 500 young girls. they have been flown from
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there. they were supposed to fly out, 700, but only 500 went out. so the other 200 are partof the0 individuals that they have only the rio grande. and out of the 5,000 plus they have at the rio grande, 65% -- about 65% are unaccompanied kids. >> brennan: i also want to put up on the screen some of the other pictures of families that you say are being detained under a bridge, it appears. they're being given foil blankets. you tell us this is a temporary processing site and they're waiting to get into a holding facility. these look like families outside under the e we're seeing here -- were they expelled from the u.s. or were they released into the u.s.? >> a combination of two is what we see. title 42, which is a 1944
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law, that entails public health rational, is used for 71% of the crosses, which are single adults. there are some family units that have been returned to mexico, depending on the age of the kids that are with them. so what we're seeing is at that particular facility, they migt want to move ter border patrol facility. and if they don't, this is what is happening: some will be returned, but over 2,000 of them have been released into the united states without a notice to appear. i emphasize: without a notice to appear at an immigration port. they're supposed to appear, show up maybe in 60 days and report to an i.c.e. office. >> brennan: president biden said this week that the majority of people were to be expelled under title 42. what you are saying, and what customs and border patrol has also said to
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cbs news, this is essentially not being fully enforced as he explained it. you are saying people are beingsed? >> adults are pretty much returned. 71% out of the 100,000 people that passed in february are adults. and those are being returned, expelled back. some family units are turned back into mexico, depending on the age of the kids. 13 and above are being returned. i know the president is right about they're working with mexico so mexico will do more. but the rest of them, the family units, are being released into the united states. that's where the burden of the border communities are felt, the cities, the counties, the n.g.o.s, we're feeling the brunt of what is happening with the family units. unaccompanied kids are different. those are taken under the h.h.s. bour osecause
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blockedgely b bringing our own cameras inside to do that firsthand reporting. which is why we have identified them as being provided by you. on the point you just made about mexico, you said you're hearing more from mexico than you are from washington. the president of mexico said this week that president biden created the expectations that migrants would be treated better here than they were under his predecessor, and that is what is feeding this. do you think mexico is just tryng to use this as leverage right now over the united states? is that why they are not accepting those families trying to be expelled back? >> well, i don't want to put any motives in the words of the mexicans. they need to answer that. but i will tell you that they have started races in the southern part where they sendhe natnal nd now there
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trying do meoplfromom roberta jacobson who knows this, she will be concentrating on getting mexico to do more. i promise you that they can do more. >> brennan: have you spoken to her or your office about your concerns? >> not since november. i have spoken to secretary mayorkas, and i have spoken to the c.d.p. acting commissioner, and i spoke to a lot of folks on the ground. er myselanthe other congressmen down here, gonzalez and bella, to e vice president. i'm glad that the president put the vice president in charge because we need somebody that can look at the comprehensive view of what we're seeing here.
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it is not a simple solution, i grant it. but you've got to start with what we do in central america. because, remember, we have, from 2016 to now, we've given them over $3.6 billibillion , because of some conditions, but we've got to help them. >> brennan: congressman, we have to leave it there. thank you for joining us today. we'll be back with more "face the nation" in a moment. you'll get proactive s for market events before they happen... and insights on every buy and sell decision. with zero-commission online u.s. stock and etf trades. for smarter trading decisions, get decision tech from fidelity. for smarter trading decisions, ♪ mom and dad left costa rica, 1971.
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