good morning to those of you on the west coast. >> the family of a black man shot to death by deputies demands transparency after seeing only 20 seconds of body camjr.'on tells us what the footage shows. and first on "cbs this

morning," oprah winfrey talks to us about the book on childhood trauma. why we should all show more compassion. >> we can all do that. but first here's your "eye opener" in 90 seconds. >> he had his hands firmly on the steering wheel. they went up to his vehicle shooting. >> attorneys for the family of andrew brown jr. are calling his death an execution. >> dr. brown's family saw a clip of the body cam video of last week's shooting. >> our county attorney filed a motion with the court to release the body camera video. one year after the klg of breonna taylor, the justice department is opening an investigationo t louisville metro police department in kentucky. >> we know we have much more work to do. in india, the covid-19 situation is nothing short of a catastrophe. >> america is steadfastgog suppf india impacted by the recent surge. the cdc is expected to relax federal guidance on wearing you

>> a zroen passing by a car fire recorded the moment it exploded. amazingly, no one was injured. >> and all of that matters. did anybody -- let me rephrase, did anybody watch the academy awards? >> the ratings for the oscars plummeted from 23 million last year to less than 10 million last year. how can something so woke put so many people to sleep? >> on "cbs this morning." our very own jon batiste won an os scar and looked good doing it, baby! >> does stephen colbert need to look for a new bandleader? >> stephen sent me a message on the night. it was great. we were going to facetime as well. but -- >> you didn't answer the question -- >> yeah, jon, you didn't answer the question! because if you leave, it won't be any different. say hello to anthony hopkins and

"stay father." this morning's " was presented by progressive. i think the relationship. the partnership that the great romance those two have -- >> irreplaceable. >> not going anywhere. congratulations for him. we're excited for him. to stephen colbert as well. welcome to "cbs this morning." a good sign against the fight against the pandemic. the cdc guidelines will focus on what it's safe to do outdoors especially if you've already been vaccinated. weijia jiang is at the white house with the story. good morning to you. president biden is expected to speak on the state of the pandemic. what do you know, what have you heard about the new guide against. >> reporter: good morning, gayle, a federal official tell uses that the language is not final, but the updated guidelines will stem from one key factor, whether somebody is vaccinated or not. the recommendations will outline what someone should and should

not do if they are vaccinated when they're outside. like whether they're should wear a mask. we also expect some clarification around protocols in health care settings. the current cdc guidance acknowledges that masks may not be necessary when you are outside by yourself, away from others or with people who live in your household. but advises to follow mask mandates while out in public. studies identified by the journal of infectious diseases found less than 10% of covid infections occurred outdoors. white house officials have said they do not believe it's the government's place to mandate vaccines. this approach appears to be grounded in giving people incentives to get vaccinated. in other words here, all of the things you did before covid, that you can do again, if you get vaccinated. in its first full day in office, president biden asked every american to mask-up for his first 100 days. that is something he could revisit when he delivers remarks about the pandemic later this

afternoon. tony. >> weijia, thank you very much. while the u.s. has made progress against covid in recent weeks, india has seen massive spikes according to johns hopkins. reporting 2.3 million cases in of the last seven days. president biden spoke to india's prime minister yesterday and pledged to help the situation. meanwhile, the world health organization called the crisis, quote, beyond heartbreaking. >> reporter: seeing the tragedy play out daly at the indian hospitals with the desperately ill and their families left to fend for themselves. this man says i took my relative to two hospitals but they refused to admit him. we're standing here with a patient in the middle of the road without oxygen, without any hope. with even hospitals struggling to find vital supplies finding a coveted hospital bed no longer guarantees treatment. this man said, my mother is

admitted here and i don't think they're taking good care of her. the oxygen cylinders need to be filled every half hour but they're not even checking them. the vertical spike in cases and deaths has unnerved those long accustomed to handling last rites. cremations are being conducted nonstop even on roadsides. i've never seen such a terrifying situation. i can't believe we're in the capital of yand. peo india. people are dying like animals this man says. even with india repurposing sports stadiums passenger trains and religious centers for treatment centers india continues spiraling over the next few weeks. covid safety protocols like social distancing has waned in recent months. large crowds have gathered at political gatherings and

religious ceremonies. it's a reminder, world health organization said even as some countries return to a novid rem. for "cbs this morning," lucy kraft, tokyo. relatives of a black man shot and killed by sheriff's deputies in north carolina say they're not getting the full story. deputies were trying to arrest andrew brown jr. on a felony drug charge when the shooting happened. lawyers for the family say a snippet of body cam video shows brown with his hands on the steering wheel of his car when deputies opened fire. they call his death an execution. manuel bojorquez is in elizabeth city where he spoke to brown's son. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, people await a court hearing and judge's ruling on whether a

video of the shooting should remain public. the family saw a video that had the deputies' faces blurred. they're angry and want the immediate release of the raw footage. >> it was just a horrific scene and horrific video. >> reporter: for the first time yesterday, andrew brown's csonka little ferebee painfully watched his father's dead. >> they were shooting very spot, my dad, he was -- >> reporter: hands on the steering wheel? >> hands on the steering wheel, yes. they were still shooting. >> reporter: the family says he tried to drive away to save his own life. >> he backed out. goes around them. and they're still shooting at him while he's driving off. they're shooting at him as the crash crashed into the tree. there was no time the 20 seconds we saw that he was threatening officers in any kind of way. >> reporter: the 20 seconds came

from a single body cam video from one deputy on the scene. they say that video was edited. no video has been made public. ben crump is the family's attorney.. did something inappropriately and criminal, you all would have seen that video by now. there was no need for them to be the jurist, the jury, executioner that morning as he fled from them. >> andrew brown! >> reporter: protesters have marched peacefully across town for days. echoing the calls for transparency. pasquotank county sheriff tommy wooten. >> this was quick and over in less than 30 seconds and body cameras are shaking and sometimes hard to decipher. >> reporter: that doesn't matter to brown's family who hoped the entire could give them clarity. what is going on inside of you? >> i'm ate up. i still don't have closure. i still don't have what i

want -- the answers that i'm asking. >> reporter: the family says it will hold another news conference later this morning to reveal the results of an independent autopsy. they claim it will show that brown was shot in the back of the head. gayle. >> boy, manuel, transparency equals trust. very troubling. thank you so much. more than one year louisville police killed breonna taylor, they're launching an investigation. attorney general merrick garland said investigators will focus on violations of civil rights. >> reporter: the federal bureau of investigation puts the louisville police department on notice it is being watched. >> it will determine whether lpd

engaged in unlawful search warrants on private homes. it will also assess whether l lmpd. >> reporter: the investigation stems in part from the death of 26-year-old breonna taylor who was shot and killed in her own home when louisville police officers botched the execution of a search warrant more than a year ago. >> it was a senseless murder. you know, it didn't have to happen. she should definitely be here. >> reporter: tamika palmer is her mother. what do you think they'll find? >> i think they'll find a number of findings. it's a system that needed overhauling forever. >> reporter: the federal attorney juanita baker believes federal investigators will force louisville police department into long overdue reform. >> we have changes, real changes

that need to be made. to your front door, your house, it's time to get it in order. >> reporter: louisville city leaders say they agree, but it's not just their city. >> america is with policing. we just happen to be the city we're talking about today. >> reporter: doj sources tell me that we should expect to hear about more of these types of federal investigations into local police departments in the coming weeks and months. and, by the way, this pattern or practice investigation is separate from the ongoing investigation into breonna taylor's death. tony. >> jeff, thank you very much. the u.s. population is growing at its slowest rate since the great depression. just 7.4% since 2010. that's according to the new census data. the bureau estimates that overall the u.s. has 331 million people living here. the numbers also show that our population and political power continue to shift to the southern and western part of the country. senior white house and political

correspondent ed o'keefe joins us now. ed, elections have consequences. we were just saying that. the census has consequences too, doesn't it? >> oh, it sur does. just ask the state of new york, we'll get to that in a minute. seven states experienced very little population growth. because of that, illinois, ohio, pennsylvania, michigan, west virginia, new york and california are all losing one seat in the house of representatives. new york, listen to this, just barely lost one of those seats. if they counted just 89 more people in the empire state, they would have held on to that extra electoral college vote. you got to fill out your census forms, folks. instead, minnesota would have lost the seat. california actually added more than 2 million new residents but it just didn't grow at a fast a rate as some of those other states. this is the first time the golden state will lose a seat. north carolina, florida, oregon, montana and colorado, texas is picking up two congressional

seats and will now have a whopping 40 electoral college votes. these states grew the fastest over the last decade. four of those six states voted last year to donald trump. now attention shifts to how states will redraw the districts ahead of next year's elections. republicans have a huge advantage in this rega observers note that they're set to control congressional redistricting in 18 states, compared to the democrats' seven. this will be one of the bigger parts going into next year. >> some significant shifts there, ed, thank you. the department of homeland security is investigating the threat of violent domestic extremism within its own ranks. in hismend setyretary alejandro mayorkas calls domestic attacks, quote, the most lethal and persistent terrorist-related threat to our country today. this comes from questions over

why more wasn't down to prevent the pro-trump attack at the capitol january 6th. so leaders could address the threat of extremism th russia's government has ordered alexei navalny's political organization to shut down for now. the leading opponent of russian president vladimir putin just ended a nearly three-week hunger strike in prison. as elizabeth palmer reports navalny's supporters had used his actions as a springboard for new anti-government protests. >> reporter: here's what the prosecutors want to shut down. alexei navalny's powerful movement which is focused opposition to vladimir putin is especially among the young. navalny himself was the victim of an assassination attempt last summer with a nerve agent. he blames the kremlin. the kremlin denys it. but as soon as navalny recovered from treatment in germany and returned to russia, he was sent to jail. now, a court wants to silence

his anti-corruption foundation, too, by labeling them extremists on a par with isis and al qaeda. vladimir ashurkov is the foundation's director. why are they so scared of you? >> i guess because for years navalny was against the organization of put pvladimir p. >> reporter: most recently in this video of a vast country estate allegedly built for the president, it's had more than 150 million views. and featured goldplated toilet brushes which went viral as a social media joke. and became a mocking fixture in demonstrations. the kremlin tries to ignore navalny. president putin won't even say his name. but the ruthless measures taken to refresh his movement may back fire and add to fame and

support. as navalny's wife yulia wrote in a letter to cbs news in "60 minutes" whatever comes next, alex will have already won. there's a real setback for a start. navalny's organization would not be allowed to participate in the coming parliamentary elections. anthony. >> elizabeth palmer in london. thank you, liz. ahead, why millions of people are missing their second vaccine shots and what that could mean for t

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walk-ins, people without adisappointments to get vaccinated. but as you said, there are millions of people who have not getting that second dose and that's concern we're going to lose ground we've gained against the virus. 31-year-old is an occupational therapist living in california. she wasn't sure she'd get thekn maybe a little bit of peer pressure as well. you see other people doing it. >> reporter: she only had mild symptoms after her first pfizer dose but she's not sure she'll get her second. she's frustrated after learning she may need a booster and annual shot and still worried about side effects. danelle, are you more afraid of

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♪ ♪ a little whistle while you whistle while you work. it's toouz, april 27, 2021. welcome to "cbs this morning." new government guidance expected on wearing masks outdoors. we talk about how to that and how to address vaccine hesitancy. >> first, oprah discusses a new book for childhood trauma. and john grisham writes about hoop dreams in his next novel. >> it's a departure and good. first, here's today's eye opener

at 8:00. new guidance expecting on wearing masks. it will focus on what it's safe to do outdoors. >> a federal officials tells us the language is not final, but the updated guidelines will stem from one key factor. whether somebody is vaccinated or not. it's a horrific scene. horrific media. >> a local state of emergency remains in effect in elizabeth city as people await a court hearing and a judge's ruling on whether video of the shooting should be made public. >> the investigation is separate from the ongoing federal civil rights investigation into breonna taylor's death. russia's government has ordered a political organization of in a vaulny to shut down. >> the extremist -- the organization would not be allowed to participate in the upcoming parliamentary election. president biden is giving his first speech to a joint

session of congress on wednesday. it's invite only and less than half of congress will be able to attend. and only about 20 of those invites are in the pit where you have enough room to mosh during the speech. what did he say? >> i was like getting ready. what did he say? anthony? >> you were doing your homework right before class. >> he raised the idea of a mosh pit at the joint address to congress. >> i don't think that's going to happen, but it's a funny vibsua. >> we have big news in the fight to get back to normal in the pandemic. updated guidelines from the federal about who should be wearing and when a federal official tells us the new cdc guidelines will lay out what activities fully vaccinated people may resume. that includes when and if it's necessary to continue wearing the mask guidelines say the masks may not be necessary

outdoors if you're away from others or if you're only with people from your household. also today, president biden will give an update on the state of the pandemic. a briefing from his covid-19 response team will likely discuss all the new guidelines. health and human services secretary joins us now. secretary, good morning to you. we are at a crucial juncture in combatting covid-19 and we've got these new mask guidelines coming down. your departmentover sees the cdc. what can we expect and also it sounds like it's going to be organized around whether or not a person is vaccinated or not. i would read it as an encouragement to get more people out there to get that vaccination. fair to say? >> yeah. good morning, and thanks for having me. absolutely. the message is clear. you're vaccinated. guess what. you get to return to more normal lifestyle. if you're not vaccinated, you're a danger. you're still in danger as well. get vaccinated. >> a poll finds that while we're

making improvements in the numbers of people willing to get vaccinated, there is still a hardened core of about between a quarter and a fifth of the population saying no way. i know you're working on that population. what's your level of frustration that we've reached a point where we may not be able to make anymore end roads? >> remember, when you get 130 million americans fully vaccinated, two-thirds of all seniors today are fully vaccinated. that's good news. we want to build on that and want others to join them. when they join them being vaccinated, they can join them outside and not have to wear masks. >> i want to go back to the mask thing for a second. i've often wondered. i'm outside by myself. nobody is around. why am i wearing a mask? this would be helpful to know. if you're vaccinated, do you have to wear a mask outside or you don't have to wear a mask outside? >> well, we weren't born with masks but we want to be safe and want to protect our loved ones. so that's why we wear masks. right? we put on our seat belt. we don't expect we're going to

crash our car. but we want to be safe. that's what we're trying to do is make sure everyone is safe. we want to get back to a normal life and get our economy going and people back at work. restaurants open. you got to do that the right way. and masks help. vaccinations, important. masks help. and so even though i'm vaccinated, i still wear a mask. >> exactly. so why do we have to do that? that's why i'm confused. i keep hearing you don't have to wear it, but you could still pass it or you could still pass it along even though you've been vaccinated. i'm confused. >> the vaccine has done a good job of making sure you'll not only be safe and healthy but that you woentd infect others. still, you never know. and what you're trying to do is encourage others. we're going to get to a point where masks, we're going to hang up masks on our wall asre we'reo normal. >> mr. secretary, nearly 30% of covid cases are among hispanics

and may make up less than 20% of the population. what's being done to get the vaccine to the hispanic communitys? >> great question. we're trying to reach all the folks in hard to reach places. and so many of the workers in america who are classified as essential workers were latino. we're trying to get to them where they are. instead of waiting for them to come to the sites where there's vaccinations, opportunities, we're trying to go to them. and that's what we're doing throughout the country. we're doing that in rural areas. we know a lot of americans find it difficult to get some of the vaccination sites. we're going to go to where people are. we're going to make enough supply of vaccinations, vaccines available. and we're going to make sure that we get everyone vaccinated. >> mr. secretary, i'd like to shift topics if we could to the border crisis. there are still record numbers of migrant children unaccompanied arriving at the u.s. border and where hhs comes into the picture is after apprehension, the children are moved to a shelter and then

moved to a sponsor family. the shelter and sponsor family, thatr partme hoosare e shelters pa? >> pretty m cacitysaid, they keep coming, we keep having to find more space. what we're trying to do is do this the legal way, the responsible way, the right way. these are kids. and regardless of what their ultimate outcome, whether they return to their home country or not, we have an obligation at hhs to make sure we take care of their health and well being while they're with us. >> what do you need most now? shelter space or more people to help you place these kids with sponsor familys? >> a little bit of both. and what we're finding is that we are looking for as many of those places with beds that are licensed, that have the care giver who is are accustomed to treating kids. and where we can't, know it's bet tore put them in our care than keep them at the custom and border patrol centers.

they're not equipped to handle kids. we're going to do what's right by the kids while they're temporeninisn doetle relucnt l cameras i >> well, remember, you're talking about children. these are not adults. privacy p. whether you're an american citizen or a migrant child seeking asylum, you have privacy protections. you're not open to just the public to identify you. at the same time, remember, covid still is out there. and we can't have people co-min co-mingling. we don't want to spread covid. >> it's strictly a health and privacy issue? some people say transparency would help here. >> we're all for that, and we will continue to open the sites where it's possible when it's possible, and when we can do it rea reason reasonably. first and foremost, safety and well being of the privacy protections and making sure we don't spread covid. >> secretary, we appreciate you getting up early for us this

morning. thank you very much. >> thank you. ahead, a man faced massive medical bills for injuries from a car crash despite having shurns. we'll find out why and how you can avoid

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♪ this morning, we're looking at how one car accident can result in more than $700,000 in medical bills. even with medical and car insurance. in our continuing bill of the month partnership with kaiser health news and npr, we examined unexpected medical costs. when mark gottlieb was hit by another car while driving, he damaged four vertebrae, and smashed several teeth, despite having $125,000 in personal injury protection from his auto insurer and medical insurance, his medical insurance was unable to cover the remaining balance. >> the car basically came from nowhere. went through a red light. thought i was going to die. >> reporter: mark gottlieb was injured isn't a car accident in january 2019. his geico car insurance covered $250,000 of middle care.

after physical therapy and other treatments that geico covered, mark speeded spinal surgery. he thought he would be covered by the money left in his plan. >> there's no campaign. >> reporter: but the hospitals and surgeons totaled over $700,000. geico negotiated both bills down substantially. and paid more than $150,000 toward gottlieb's charges. before his plan was exhausted. leaving him on the hook for about $90,000 for the surgeon's bill. >> i figured it would be $125,000 is a lot of insurance. it didn't make any sense. extremely blind sided. >> reporter: gottlieb submitted the surgeon's bill's balance to aetna, aetna told us it offered to pay the standard rate of care under gottlieb assess po's poli. because the surgeon and service were out of network he would still owe $4,000 to meet his deductible. so we withdrew his request for

aetna's coverage. after this experience, he fears seeking any additional treatment helping for in-network doctor. >> i'm feeling anything else, i take extra strength tylenol. i have a huge fear because of what happened. >> hudson regional hospital said in a statement that it charged the state-mandated fee for all applicable services to mr. gottlieb. and for the balance of his care, the charges were reasonable. the surgeon and his office bergen pain management have not pursued gottlieb for the almost $90,000 outstanding bill. joining us is dr. elizabeth rosent rosenthal, the editor of keiser news. as if the back pain isn't enough, this is excruciating. what can we learn from mr. gottlieb's story?

>> well, there are a lot of things you can learn. health insurance and car insurance don't play very well together, first of all. and when you get in a car crash there are just endless mine fields. and poor mr. gottlieb got almost all of them. >> when you say they don't play very well together. what do you mean? how does auto insurance versus health insurance work here? >> well, the first thing to know if you're in an auto accident and have personal injury protection through auto insurer, that kicks in and that pays the first part of the bill. but they work really differently, first all, they have smaller networks, in some states including new jersey, they have set rates they pay for procedures. but if the surgeon and the hospital add a few things that aren charge whatever they want. the sky's the limit. and that's what happened to mr. gottlieb. and then when it kicked over into his health insurance, the health insurer had different

networks. so the doctors who had been treating him were out of network. so, once again, no help from your health insurance. >> you say, if it's not an emergency procedure, patients should get price estimates from their medical facilities. explain why that's so important. >> well, i say they should try because at least get it in writing. and don't get it -- you know, a lot of people will tell me, well, you know, i called the billing office and they said don't worry. and in fact, mr. gottlieb did ask someone at the doctor's office. they said, oh it will never blow through $125,000 but it does. so y gett in writing from the finance office. then at least you have something to fight with. look, i have an estimate in my hand. so, honor it. >> several states require personal injury protection insurance. if your state doesn't require it, what should you do? >> well, it really puts

consumers in a bind because every state is different. >> yeah. >> pips cal s advantagesn itsst dollar insurance, that means it will pay immediately, no co-pays, no deductibles. but it tends not to be big insurance. so if you're in a huge car accident and you need surgery as mr. gottlieb did, you'll exhaust that p.i.p. insurance and it will kick into your health insurance and that the networks coordinate. when you get in a car accident you don't know, is it going to be a big one or have some stitches. so it puts patients, once again in a totally untenable position, and it's just not fair. >> no it's not, dr. elizabeth rosenthal, thank you so much. morning."g up next, the latest ♪

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>> i'm very good giving unsolicited help. >> that apparently is part, phone a friend i s one . good morning. it's 8:25. today sonoma county supervisors are set to proclaim a drought emergency with recommended conservation measures. they say they have never seen lake sonoma so low. a woman accused of coughing in a baby's face is due in court this morning. the former teacher faces a charge of misdemeanor sault. starting today in santa clara vaccinations are available on a walk in basis with no appointment necessary. this as the county's supply of doses becomes stronger. walk ins are available at 13 public sites. and still busy on this tuesday morning. let's get a look at some of the

trouble spots. one is on the richmond, san rafael bridge westbound. there's a broken down vehicle causing a back up. give yourself extra time there. if you are headed out of marin we have brake lights in to san rafael with slow speeds on the southbound side of 101. keep that in mind if you are going toward the golden gate. look at this beautiful shot here. not seeing really any issues or bring lights. it looks nice and sunny. travel times slow on the east shore. 25 minutes, highway 4 to the maze. looks beautiful with that sun. temperatures on the chilly side in the 40's to 50 degrees. as we head through the afternoon. with that sun we will warm it up more. looking at low to mid-60s's around the bay and the 70's to low 80's this afternoon. this is just the start. we will continue with that warm up as we look to wednesday and for thursday. still mild. friday, and into the weekend. even though ightly cooler.

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♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." it's time to bring you some of the stories that we like to call "talk of the table" around here, anthony. >> yeah, we talk about this, we've lost a lot of wonderful musicians to covid over the past year and sadly i have to report we have lost one more. paul oscher who started out playing harmonic harmonica in t legendary blues band muddy water. take a look. ♪ ♪ hello straight woman ♪ >> that's 1971, actually.

oscher was introduced to music at the age of 18 at the apollo in new york. three years later when he came back to play a show, he needed a harmonica player and reached out to oscher just 20 at the time, 1967. at the end of the show, waters offered him the job. he lived in a basement in chicago for a while. oscherenton play instruments for clapton, levonne hooker. you can imagine a white guy touring in a blues band in the 1960s, was an unusual sight. he said i don't care what color he is, as long as he plays the soul i feel. paul oscher lost at the age of 74. for the cleveland browns fans your star quarterback has been seeing things in the sky in

texas. baker mayfield saw a ufo and head doubled down, he said, quote, it's real, i saw it, i believe. he describes himself as a firm believer in ufos and sasquatch. i will say in his defense, he said the navy has confirmed this. and the navy has. we have the video of actual unidentified flying objects in possession of our department of defense. >> that looks like an old video game. no one has been able to figure out what these are. these are real ufos. the "u" standed for unidentified. >> i like what he said, i know i'm not crazy. i know what i saw. stand your ground, sir, i like it. how about this, do you have a friend who is always late? well, you're not alone. is that annoying to you? you're also not alone in

according to yahoo! a study of 3,000 adults pound 7 in 10 friend groups say they have one friend who is always running late. what is late anything past 13 minutes is considered late. i remember back in the day, 15 minutes was the grace period. now it is 13 minutes. and they always have all sorts of excuses. traffic. morning alarm didn't go off. the car didn't start. and it's different, too, for men and women. men are likely to feel a little embarrassed about being late. women are more likely to laugh tell off. i'm what. ha, ha, ha. >> when oprah is a late friend, when she says i'm on my way, does that mean she's in the shower? >> sometimes. i'm the one who is usually late. me and my sister linney. i used to think 15-minute graces period. i used to factor that in. >> but if you and your sister

are both late you can be together. >> i know. >> fewer people are here. traffic hasappeared as an excuse for getting here. >> it's bad, guys, if you go and eveybody is sitting at the table and you're the last one. everybody is sitting down, maybe somebody has ordered an appetizer and all you do is slink in your chair. we've got more tangentially on friends. first on "cbs this morning," oprah winfrey is challenging all of us, well torsi examine and re-examine the trauma that all of us experiencediess adults. it's part of a new book she co-wrote with psychiatrist dr. bruce perry. and oprah urges to flip the question of what's wrong with you? to instead ask, what happened to you? i asked to speak to both of to

me how it affects us and how to fix ourselves. take a look. so, ever since i dipped into "what happened to you?" the book we're here to discuss, i've been looking at everybody on the street as a former newborn, in your phrase, oprah. >> yeah. >> that really gets to what the title represents, a reframing of how we look at one another. it's subtle, but it's very profound, oprah. >> it's subtle, but profound and powerful. and what you're experiencing, tony, is what i experienced a couple of years ago doing a piece for "60 minutes." dr. bruce perry and i were talking about a childhood trauma. and in that "60 minutes" interview, he said the most important question is not what's wrong with you, which is what most people who are taking care of children who have had, you know, behavorial issues, ask what's wrong with this kid? but the most important question is what happened to this child?

and something went, whoa, inside of me. and i got it in a way that i hadn't really understood. in all of the years i've been talking about trauma. >> trauma is a big word, dr. perry. but a large portion of the population, if you reflect on it, has experienced something in their life that could be defined under that big word "trauma." could you talk a little bit about how broad the population is that's affected by these issues? >> one of the things that we're learning more and more about is that the stress response systems we have in our body will be altered. and that pattern can be something that comes from a big event, like witnessing a school shooting or a natural disaster. or it can come in accumulated small, unpredictable uncontrollable stressors like what will happen with a child who is living in an environment where in the outgroup, they're not the right skin color.

they don't have the right gender identity. and when we look at the number of people who have that, it's well over 40% of the population have some significant developmental adversity that puts them at risk. >> each of us creates a unique world view shaped by life's experiences. and most of that comes, that world view, as you now read the book and understand, that world view is shaped when you are a child. so most people think, tony, i think, that if you're -- if you're in a bad relationship and your children are hearing things and it's destructive and dysfunctional, that the children will get over it and be resilient. when in fact you are doing the most damage the younger your children are. >> yeah. and those first two months are the most critical. >> that's when the messages are coming through. that's learning language is also learning lessons in trauma. not the right lessons but the good news, and i can't let

either one of you go before we touch on the hopeful side of this which is once you understand the script that led to you today, what happened to you? you can rewrite that script. it doesn't take years although it could take the would of a lifetime it can be done in smaller interventions. >> one of the things i asked him in the "60 minutes" why aren't i tone crazy? considering the way i was raised why i don't have more problems. one of the things you said to me, bruce, your relationships with teachers, with people who cared about you, other than your family members, it just means having somebody who sees you fully sees and recognizes you and you can connect to that changes the way you view yourself and you view the world. that's why what happened to you is so important to all of us. >> in other words, it's love, dr. perry, but that love can come in small doses. it can be a few focused minutes.

your phone is put down, it can be an hour-long lunch with a friend, a phone call, a text message? >> absolutely. all of those things are examples of the kind of therapeutic experience that can be provided by people who are not therapists. so healing really comes from these moments. these moments where people are present, aattentive, attuned and clearly see you as oprah says. >> the book is 300 pages that has grown out of 30 years of conversation and work between experience as people and professionals. i hope people pick it up. >> thanks, tony. >> you know what i thought was interesting about the book is how trauma affects you at such a young age. 2-month-old. remember that saying everything i ever learned i learned in kindergarten, or you're fully formed by the time you're 6, that's just not true. >> one other thing about this

book, it helps with trauma but family, geez, ss, there's always that person's tough. when you start asking it's question what happened to them you understand forgiveness. >> some of these traumas can be quite small. you think of trauma as a car crash or something. it doesn't have to be that big. so much of what we do later in life is actually a reaction to what we felt in those early moments. >> yeah, it's amazing the stuff you carry. and human connection, as we all know, is so important. >> john grisham talk about human connection. i'm nuts about him. he's standing by to tell us about his new book. there he is, he's known for writing courtroom dramas but as you may notice, he's on a different court today. >> is he going to dribble for us today? >> john grisham. coming up, he decided to write -- >> he's shooting. moving to the basket. >> he's written a book every

year since 1991. this is the first time he decided to write his first basketball book. why john grisham? why? i know you'll have the answer

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grisham is considered the master of legal thrillers, his masters "pelican brief" and "time to kill." look at his rk swapping the leg court for a sports court, sooley is on the basketball court. he joins us from john paul jones arena. home of the calf levalicavalier9 basketball champs. john, an author walks into a sports bar with his friends, he looks at the tv screen, he sees what? and what does he do? >> well, good morning, gayle, good morning, tony and anthony. what happened to me, when i saw it, i said, like everybody else i was in shock that march madness had been cancelled. i didn't know you could do that. we were all depressed. working on our brackets and

arguing number one seeds having a beer in a bar and suddenly there was no march madness. i had the idea for a basketball novel i'd been kicking around for a couple years and that was sort of the impetus to start writing it. the goal was to write the book and have it out by march madness this year. >> you said you like sad sports stories, john, sell us about sooley, who is he? >> we can't tell the ending. >> may i be on record, clearly, you didn't consult with renee, on the ending, totally disappointed, i totally disagree with this book but i like you. go ahead. >> yeah, but you read it and enjoyed the book. i like -- i love sports stories, college sports, especially, and i like the sad sports stories. i've written a few of them now,

sooley turns out to be pretty sad. >> yeah, he does. you take us on quite a journey with him. you're there at uva which, by the way, i didn't know you're such a basketball fan. look, the back page shows you in who wears short shorts, you john grisham, clearly a high school basketball star back in the day. you spent a lot of time -- look at you. >> wow. >> you spent a lot of time with the coach tony bennett, what did you learn from him researching for this book? >> you called me a high school basketball stud? >> okay, we'll go with that. >> it was not much of a career. that photograph you see on the dust jacket is me playing basketball a junior in high school. i started for our high school team. that team won one and lost 24. and getting back -- we got some -- we got some bad calls but we're not very good. that's when i quit basketball

that season. because the whole team was coming back for my senior year, i didn't want to go back to that again. i quit basketball, walked away. and the team won a bunch of games the following year. yeah, we come to all of the games here at upmv, dotony bennt is a good friend, running the program here. i'm proud of. >> basketball skills, quick buzzer beater, greatest player of all time? >> college or pro? >> john, must anybody. anybody, john. >> college, pistol pete. pro, michael jordan. >> favorite basketball movie? >> hoosiers. >> favorite basketball rivalry? you show great shade at duke in this book i do not approve. but best basketball rivalry?

>> carolina/duke is the great basketball rivalry ever. >> it really is. all right, john grisham -- >> we got one more. we need to ask him what's next for you? >> yeah, that's right. >> next project? >> yeah, what's coming up next? >> yeah. >> yeah, i'm in the middle of the next legal thriller i start in january and finish in july. i'm halfway through. it's called "the judge's list. "it's another juicy legal thriller with dead bodies everywhere. comes out in october. >> i know but the basketball book was great fun, john. congratulations we got to see another whole side of your personality. >> if you want a viral video of this book, you better shoot a shot now. your chance. bay area homeowners, your chance. >> i'm not going to shoot a

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