captioning sponsored by cbs >> dickerson: i'm john dickerson in washington. this week on "face the nation," we'll talk exclusively with two key players in the drama that is likely to impact every american. president biden is pitching the most ambitious and most expensive set of domestic reforms in decades. together his proposals total more than $6 trillion idsp howoing pay for iden ieasile: it is out ti or sha. >>keon an n us fr. reicarundin the alarm about big

government run amuck. >> even more taxing and more spending to put washingtve the middle of your life from the cradle to college. >> dickerson: we'll hear from south carolina senator tim scott, hen is also the party's lead negotiator on police reform. and then a covid check-in. cases are down, but so are vaccinations. how can we pick up the pace to overtake the virus. we'll talk with former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. and 100 days into the biden presidency, americans weigh in. it is all just ahead on "face the nation."♪ ♪ >> dickerson: good morning. and welcome to "face the nation." we begin this morning with white house chief-of-staff ron klain. good morning, ron. >> good morning, john. thanks for having me. dicrson: e hehis ort the

irangovernmha aged with the west to release some detainees. what can you tell us about that? >> john, i can tell you, unfortunately, that report is untrue. there is no agreement to release these four americans. we're working very hard to get them released. so far there is no agreement to bring these four americans home. >> dickerson: sometimes the other country will rush to the microphones to force your hand. do you feel tlat? >> no. again. we're working hard to bring these americans home. when we get that done, we'll obviously be delighted to nun announce that news. >>lk about vaccinations. there is something called vaccine hefty. this week vaccinations were down 10%. the director of the c.d focus on this, what can he do to increase incientes incentivesfor people to get

vaccinated. dr. scott gottlieb says there is a big portion of people who are not finding the time. it is not that they're against it. but it is not convenient. >> we're doing a lot to make it more convenient. a week ago, 40,000 have the vaccine. and many have walk-in hours. we're trying tan we launched last week, you can text your zip code to 468862 and get texted back to you locations near your home we where you can get vaccinated. we have so much progress, john. more than 55% of americans have gotten one shot. this program is still moving with amazing pace. one in 10 americans got the shot in the last 10 days, and one in 10 will get a shot in the next 10 days. we have a lot of work left to do. we want to make it easier

and more convenient for the next group of people to get the shot. >> dickerson: yesterday in india stagger 400,000 cases. the indian prime minister called the president and asked him to join an effort to lift patents on the vaccinations so they can be produced. where is p on that?india. wee sending five thech include medicine supplies and the supplies for india to make its vaccinations. india has its own vaccines. production has slowed because they don't have the scarce raw materials. we sent 20 million doses to make more of their ccines.reufacturislem. ve a factory here in the u.s. that has the full intellectual property rights to make the vaccine, but they're not making doses because the factory has problems. >> dickerson: but the

prime minister asked for the president to lift it. will he? >> our u.s. representative is going to the w.t.o. next week to start talks on how we can get this vaccine more widely distributed, more widely licensed and shared. we'll have more to say on that ithe days to come. >> dickerson: on the domestic front, the president seems like he is trying to sell a whole bunch of programs and a mindset, so there is family leave, broadband, and it is quite a list. but he is also arguing basically that government isgood in american life. and what i wonder is, at a time where we have low fait gt d institutions, can the american people handle that big of a -- that much change in their life, that the president is offering them? >> well, john, i think what the president is offering them is what political figures, democrat and republicans, have talked about for decades. let's fix our bridges and road, and let's given

people family leave when they have a new child or a sick family member. these are basic things. i think washington has talked about them for decades. the bold thing that president biden is doing is laying out a plan to actually deliver them. the way these long-promised things finally actual happen. that's what we're trying to do. i think the american people are long overdue. they have been promised their infrastructure would be fixed for 50 years.whiveron that? icke: the president is gog to finance a lot of this wi economc activity. is it your view that there will be no demunition in corporate activity, or that is just the risk to have some to have this reorientation? >> many more americans will see their taxes go down -- >> dickerson: i'm

talking about corporate america. >> only those -- so for corporations, they got that giant tax cut in 2017. what we're talking about is rolling some of that x t k.so wal putting the rate back up to 28%. it was 35% before that tax cut came. so corporations will still ha the lower tax rate than the rate they had prior to 2017. we think that the 2017 tax cut didn't meet its promise. you didn't see massive investments in r & d, but you saw the c.e.o. pay go up. c.e.o.s now make 320 times what the average worker makes. those taxes on corporations and fund the things that make the economy grow: bridges, roads, railroads -- >> dickerson: many think that the government can be very inefficient. wth a government plan that is this big, is the ll?ernment going to offer

>> john, first of all, people havgornment delivered 220 million covid shots in 100 days. they watched us deliver a rescue plan that took this economy that was dead in the water and created more new jobs in the president's first 100 dayssidens created. i think what the public is seeing is that america is on the move again. these common-sense measures to give people some help with their child care, to give them some money, a tax cut, to help raise their ks is the kind of -- >> dickerson: i didn't hear an answer on spending cuts, but we're going to move on. here is my question about how the president is going to work this through congress: 70% of republicans, according to our poll and many others, think that the president was elected through fraud. what does that tell you about the environment for his proposals in congress? >> what i know is the same polls show that a large

number of americans, overwhelming number of americans, including a majority of republicans, favor more bridges, roads, and infrastructure. they favor investing in child care, giving people help taking care of their elderly relatives. they favor broadband. they favor these things. the proposals that the president has put forward has broad support. they have broad support in the country. they have support from republican governors and republican mayors. se ihetherr not'll v republicans in washington join the rest of america in broadly supporting these common-sense ideas to grow our economies and make our families better. >> dickerson: i'm focused on the 70% number because people talk about the president's plan being as big as what l.b.j. offered. anthere are a lot ofcluding former president obama, who say that old idea of bipartisan is basically a myth now, washington is

too partisan. and that to spend a lot o is ultimy going to get you nowre it will waste time, and you'll be punished at the ballot box. do you believe that? do you see that basically bipartisan is nice when you can get it, but this is not really the way things work these days in washington? >> well, i think, john, the president had a great conversation with senator capito last week, and we invited her and a bunch of senators to the white house in the next few days, and we're going to work to find common ground. the senate passed a part of a water infrastructure bill that is part of -- related to our jobs plan. so i think you're starting to see some progress here. the president said he is going to work hard withanyone, r republican, o shs g this econom vthe american families. i think there are people in the republican party who share th >> dickerson: there are

a lot of democrats who say, sure, try to work with them, but you have to do what you have to do through the reconciliation progress, which requires 50 votes. the more time you snd following the bipartisan, the less you're going to get done. the route of reconciliation is really the way you're going to go for a lot of the president's agenda? >> john, we're going to take this one step at a time. this is an eight-year plan to rebuild the country. we have time to talk to people in both parties, find where the common ground is, find what people agree is mutualuamutuallyshared interest. the president said there are only two red lines in this progress: he is not going to raise taxes on people making less than $400,000 a year. and, two, that everythin the only other red line is that inaction is not an

option. so we're going to work hard to try to find a path forward on these widely popular economic matters. >> dickerson: let me ask you about immigration as we go out here. every president makes promises and then runs in reality. the "washington post" had a headline line: "at the border, a widelct crisis that caught biden off-guard." the question is whether the president's move to take away some of the trump restrictions, ended up creating a draw for those migrants at the southern border? >> i don't think so. people who are sending their children here unaccompanied, as young as 6, 7 years old, with no adult -- i don't think it is because of a speech joe biden gave. i think it is because of horrible conditions in el salvador and guatemala and honduras. the number of children --

a recent report came out this week that says the number of children we hav uckroer patrol stations are down % i the past month plem and getting these kids back to family members. >> dickerson: all right. we have to leave it there. we have to leave it there. "face the nation" will be back in one minute with senator tim scott. stay with us. how's my little bundle of joy today? (young mum) hi mum. (grandma) and how are you my love? (young mum) it's all good...! [yre doire it's not. [crying] (young mum) wish i'd got you this before my nipples got sore.

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say this: one of the reasons i asked to lead this police reform on my side of the aisle because i personally understand the pain of being stoo seen the beauty of when officers go door to door with me on christmas morning, delivering presents to kids in the most underserved communities. i think i bring an equal librium to the conversation. one of the reasons i'm hopeful, in a way this time my friends on the left aren't looking for an issue. they're looking for a solution. and the things that i offered last year are more popular this year. that gives me reasons to be hopeful. and, frankly, john, i was f data collection. i think through negotiations and conversations we're now closer onkknock warrants, and there is something called section 2033, which has to do with

getting military equipment for the local police. we have been able to bring these two bills very closely tog republicafor ourrepublicans or s to win, but for our communities to feel safer. >> dickerson: a lot sunnier picture than when we stopped during the summer. let me ask you about the question of qualified immunity, who say it protects police acting in good faith, and critics say it is a shield when police cross the line. that has been a major sticking point. you have offered a proposal that said allow civil suits to sue the department and not the indivi policofficer. yodingocticsupport th which isnther reae rapples are

punished. we have seen that with michael slager when he shot walter black in the back. and recently on the george floyd conviction. those are promising signs. but the real question is: how do we change the by making the employer responsible for the actions of the employee. we do that with doctors and lawyers and most all of our industries. if we do that in law enforcement, the employer will change the culture. so we'll have all officerstranoe departments are taking on more of that burden. and, frankly, as i spoke with family members on thursday, they were very receptive to that proposal because what they're looking for is something that shows progress. i think that does it. >> dickerson: when you talk about changing the culture, i wonder what

maeople think there is a need for police reform at all. tucker carlson quoted you and many others who said after the chauvin verdict, there is more work to be done. you're talking about changing that culture. he seemed to think that was not a legitimate position. what is your feeling about that? >> senator: well, one of the reasons why i started our conversations, john, with reality, as a united states senator i've been stopped several times in the last three years, in the capitol and on the streets throughout the country. so i'm not having a conversation about some theory or philosophy. i'm saying there is a way for us to restore more confidence from communities of color and say to our officers, we want character-driven neighborhoods. i think significant numbers in my party have already said to me, we will go where you go on

this issue, as long as i can explain my position. and we're going to do that. >> dickerson: let me ask you about your theory about race. you said america is not a racist country in your response to the president. subsequently said he agrees with you. >> senator: yes. >> dickerson: so there is some common ground there. and you also said to suggest there aren't racial challenges and patterns is for someone to be blind. >> senator: yes. >> dickerson: and you said the system is breaking the back and the spirit of millions of people in our country, and you'alkingboutlack americans who are being affect offed by that affected bt system. help people understand when you say it is not a racist country, but then you talk about a system that targets black americans. and you talked about it today. help people square those two statements. >> senator: sure. first ret let me say thank goodness that our president and vice president all come forward and said exactly what i've

been saying for a long time, america is not a racist country. the question is: is there a lingering effect, after a couple of centuries of racism and discrimination in this nation? the answer is absolutely. the question we should be debating and fighting over is: how do we resolve those issues going forward? one side says i'm going to take from some to give to others. fighting bigotry with bigotry is hypocrisy. it just doesn't work. what i suggested is let's expand opportunity and make sure we're fully equipped for the challenges of the fue fought for and won the highest level of funding for black colleges is because i understand if we can level the education, we'll see human flourishing like we've never seen before. if we focus our attention on health care, like for

sickle cell anemia, we'll see unemployment rates n-amers,one-time lows for side to the other, people pay taxes, and there is an argument that the taxes that are paid should go to communities that we've seen, especially under covid, that have be disproportionately affected. so you're not saying that making sure that there is money that goes to those black communities is a bad thing? >> senator: well, john, let me say it differently: when you pass the covid package with $2 trillion of spending, and in your package you hide in there if you're a black farmer, we'll give you resources, but if you're a white farmer, you're excluded from those same resources, that is taking from one ty the d

to pay out to -- we're going to reverse that and call it fairness in our country? that doesn't work. >> dickerson: they would argue they're trying to deal with that system and the inequities you spoke about. let me ask you about taxes. the president says 55 of the largest corporations pay no taxes. 70% of the country thinks that system is tilted towards the powerful. why is it not -- why isn't it just making the corporations pay their fair share, as the president has suggested? >> senator: well, the real reason, john, is the simple reason. this is what i think is missing in the conversation. you asked that of the white house chief-of-staff recently -- or earlier. we have competition. america has global competitors who's tax rates are lower than we are right now at 21%. therefore by taking it to

28%, you actually rebalance the world against american workers. nomyterm a slowss why the because our competition is significantly lower than ours. you cannot compete in a global competition with higher taxes versus lower taxes and expect to win more of the contracts. that's kind of simple. >> dickerson: i want to get you on the record about one final thing, if i may, senator. you talked about have an honest conversations about common sense and common ground. 70% of your party thinks that joe biden is illegitimate because the election was stolen. how do you have -- >> by moving on. joe biden is the president of the united states. now what we -- >> dickerson: legitimate troubleshooter? >> of course he is. can wepe $rii taxes ce a

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