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4:00 a.m. we will be up and be able to check it out. >> we will be. it'll be exciting. >> i know it. we can't wait. have a great day. ♪ good good morning to you, and welcome to "cbs this morning." it is tuesday, may 25th, 2021. i'm gayle king with anthony mason, tony dokoupil on baby leave. we're in good hands.we're in go. here we go. it's been exactly one year since the murder of george floyd today. his family meets with president biden to push for police reform. we'll look at what's changed and what happens not in the fight for social justice. >> an alarming video emerges from belarus of a journalist in custody after his plane was forced to land. how world leaders are uniting to condemn what some have called a kidnapping. new travel advisory warns americans not to go to japan less than two months before the summer olympics.
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presented by progressive. making it easy to bundle insurance. >> yes, stephen, he means you. the mayor is excited about stephen colbert coming back. >> i am, too. >> i think stephen played that very well. welcome back to "cbs this morning." we begin with grief. wrapped up in an urgent national debate as george floyd was murdered with an encounter by minneapolis police. we all saw the video. floyd's family is meeting with president biden at the white house as congress fails to meet the president's deadline for police reform. they're still marching in thest after floyd's murderer was convicted. jeff pegues is in minneapolis, which has seen a big spark in crime there. what's the mood on this day? >> reporter: gayle, this will be a somber day of remembrance, no
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doubt about that. what a year it has been here. some of the unrest centered around this former police precinct. this was the third precinct here in minneapolis where the arresting officers in george floyd's case once worked. you can see behind me within days of seeing that disturbing video, arsonists torched the building. the intersection of 38th and chicago has been transformed in the last year from bustling neighborhood corner to a solemn square of reflection as people from all over the world pay their respects. this is where george floyd was killed. his final moments under the knee of a police officer caught on body and cell phone cameras, as onlookers pleaded for derek chauvin to stop. >> is he breathing right now? check his pulse. >> the murder verdict last month brought relief to some but minneapolis resident april
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foster said she still worries for her 15-year-old son. you saw george floyd die and you were thinking about your son? >> i was thinking about my son. that could have been my son. >> reporter: over time, like right now, has that fear gone away? >> to some degree, yes. >> reporter: minneapolis' mayor and the police chief have taken steps in the last year to address the concerns of residents who believe the police department should be reformed or defunded. just last week, the mayor outlined policing proposals, reemphasized or introduced after george floyd's death, banning neck restraints and choke holds and banning most no-knock warrants were among them. >> has anything changed? >> i think that all the change is still in progress. >> reporter: city council member jeremiah ellison. >> there are a lot of
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emergencies that don't require a police response and aren't made safer by the department we have. >> reporter: many are turning to police right now to help reverse a deadly trend. according to crime figures there was a 250% in ms across the city. how do you weigh defunding the police when people need police help right now? >> activists have a right to call for whatever they think the city needs. you can say having four armed officers go respond to a man who supposedly used a fake $20 bill probably doesn't require that level of armed response. >> we still have work to do. >> reporter: today is april foster's birthday, but she says she will spend part of the day reflecting on george floyd. >> i'm going to think about him and his life that he had. and he literally has changed the world. >> reporter: today here in minneapolis, there are a number
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of events planned to remember george floyd and the organizers of those events to recommit to issues of police reform and lkbostice. murals here, dotting this wall, painted by artists who feel like there is still more work to be done a year later. gayle? >> and they're right. there is more work to be done. jeff, thank you so much. ahead, we'll talk to democratic senator cory booker about the new police reform legislation that's being worked on in congress right now. it's so interesting when you think about what's happened in the past year. in some ways, it feels like just yester yesterday. i remembered being nauseous, looking at that video, as we all were. and then it seems so long ago, too. it's still, to me, very hard to process what we saw that day. >> it sends a very negative message also, i think, the fact that we don't have any compromise right now in
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congress, what is reform to black and brown communities. >> you would think after seeing a video like that, something would have happened very quickly. and the fact that we're still having this conversation a year later is frustrating and in some ways frustrating to me. >> you have rising crime, so there are conflicting forces at work here. as you said, there is still a lot of work to be done. >> looking forward to talking to senator booker. >> we will, in a little while. now we turn our attention to the middle east. secretary of state tony blinken is in the region, trying to negotiate a truce between israel and hamas. he met with benjamin netanyahu before going to meet with hamas. will he ask for international aid to help repair war-torn g gaza. >> reporter: good morning, secretary blinken is here to try to make it stick, but expectations are low for what he
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can actuayev that was driven home just now by prime minister netanyahu whereae calm and attacks israel, our response will be very powerful. this is what secretary blinken had to say. >> as president biden has said, we believe that palestinians and iz israelis equally deserve to live safely and securely, to enjoy equal levels of freedom and democracy, to be treated with dignity. >> reporter: here in the gaza strip, they are still counting their losses after a brutal 11-day conflict during which israel pummeled gaza with blistering air strikes, killing more than 250, according to palestinian officials, including nearly 70 children. and on the other side, more than gaza that was indiscriminate fire killing 13 civilians. the reality is that this cease fire is a band-aid. it doesn't address the
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fundamental issue, that two people who believe the same relatively small patch of land is their homeland. that's why we've seen deck be aids of violence erupting over and over again. >> holly williams reporting from gaza. president biden says belarus committed shameful assaults on dissent and freedom of the press by diverting a commercial airplane. elizabeth palmer is following that story. good morning. >> good morning. a full 24 hours later, he showed up again in this video. it was released on the government's social media channel, apparently filmed by the police. [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> it's no secret that he was in opposition but family and friends say this confession was forced and notice a bruise on his forehead. >> this is an attack on democracy. >> reporter: european leaders have been quick to react to a fake bomb scare that forced the plane to land. >> belarus misused its air space in order to perpetrate a hijacking. >> reporter: they'll also close their airports to belarusian planes and sanction those in the hijacking. after police attacked and arrested anti-lukashenko protests, thousands fled for safety.
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franak viavorka is one of them. how much more afraid are you for you and your colleagues than you were last week? >> i'm afraid of my life. now no one is safe. even if you're traveling abroad, we know we might be followed. >> reporter: but they don't know what president lukashenko, brazen enough to force down a civilian jet to seize a dissident might do for an encore. president biden joined european leaders, calling for protasevich's release. he is probably facing many years in jail. gayle? >> very frightening situation there. thank you very much, elizabeth, reporting from london. a new report is renewing questions about the origins of covid-19. according to "the wall street journal," u.s. intelligence believes three researchers in wuhan got so sick in november 2019 that they had to be hospitalized.
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now that's before the first cases of the virus were disclosed. nancy cordes is at the white house with more on this story. china maintains that the coronavirus did not come from a lab. what are u.s. officials saying now, especially since china has not exactly been so forth coming. >> good morning, gayle. white house officials are neither confirming nor denying the validity of this intelligence. but on the other hand, cbs news has learn ed that some u.s. government officials, who have been given additional classified briefings on this matter, have now become more open to the theory that coronavirus originated in a lab. >> we need that data. we need that information from the chinese government. >> reporter: white house officials say the ongoing mystery about covid's origins demonstrates why china needs to share everything it knows. according to "the wall street journal," an intelligence report
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said three employees at this r were hospitalized in november 2019, a month earlier than the first reported cases of covid-19. on monday, the chinese foreign ministry pushed back, calling the reports totally untrue. and the director of the wuhan institute of virology has insisted the lab has not been aware of sick researchers in autumn 2019 and i don't even know where such information came from. >> most likely the etiology of this pathogen in wuhan was from a laboratory, escaped. >> reporter: trump officials have long suggested covid-19 was created in the either intentionally or unintentionally. but dr. anthony fauci told cbs yesterday he still believes it is highly likely that the virus first occurred naturally, in the environ environment, spreading from animals to humans. though he hasn't ruled out the lab theory. >> i think that we should continue to investigate what
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went on in china. >> reporter: jamie metzl says it's crucial to learn about the virus' origins. >> very strong, circumstantial evidence for a lab-incident origin is growing. if we don't understand the origins of this pandemic, we will be at unnecessary risk for the next one. >> reporter: an investigation by the world health organization earlier this year determined that the risk of a lab accident in china was extremely low, but the w.h.o. did not have access to crucial chinese data and samples and so, enrique, they are now considering a second probe. >> reporter: nancy, thank you. the cdc is warning all americans to avoid travel to japan because of its latest rise in covid cases. it won't keep athletes out of the olympics but advisers are
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under severe pressure. more now on the desperate push to save the games. >> tokyo. >> reporter: when tokyo won its bid to host the 2020 summer olympi olympics, japan was ecstatic. fast forward to today and coronavirus is surging across the country for a fourth time, less than two months before the opening ceremony. a new survey indicates that the masked majority of japan, more than eight in ten people want games postponed again or canceled for good. people like dance instructor, who says she fears the olympics could cause a surge in covid infections and another state of emergency that would force her school to close. tokyo-based political scientist s says that's a real possible. >> it could be a super spreader event. >> reporter: that's why the state department is now telling americans in plain language, do not travel to japan due to
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covid covid-19. of japan's 126 million people, only about 2% have been fully vaccinated. compare that with nearly 40% in the u.s. health systems in cities like osaka have been described as on the brink of collapse. should the games go on? >> no. i just think it's not feasible. people are sort of upset now, not just wit t je gornment, but with the ioc, the arrogance in assuming that japan is willing to host, in spite of overwhelming public opinion against. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," ramy inocencio, hong kong. an update about a story of elite navy s.e.a.l.s we told you
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♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." the murder of george floyd exactly one year ago today led to one of the largest protest movements in u.s. history. people crowded into the streets and demanded racial justice. and police reform. president biden called on congress to take action on police reform by today, in george floyd's name. but negotiations in the senate are stalled. democratic senator cory booker of new jersey joins us now. good morning, senator. you said meaningful progress is being made in these negotiations. where dot talks stand right now, and how soon should we expect a deal? >> well, we want to get this deal right and not quick. i'm very encouraged there's been hours and hours every day of
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talks. and i'm really hopeful that we can get something done in the weeks ahead, not months. but we're going to continue to work. there's been a lot of great input from civil rights organizations to even national police leadership. everybody feels, i believe, a shared commitment to get something substantive, meaningful done, that will create more transparency, more accountability. when officers do things that are violative of laws, civil rights, that there are meaningful consequences that there's no one in this country above the law. >> qualified immunity which often protects officers from being sued in civil court seems to be one of the sticking points of the negotiations. is there a compromise between democrats and republicans on this? and do you still have transparency and accountability without qualified immunity? >> well, i wish there was just one sticking point, there's still gulfs to bridge. i'm encouraged with senator tim
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scott, my rem can counterpart in the senate, negotiated with me, that we both have shared values. we're both african american men who in our experiences have very difficult in our past with police officers. we both agreed that the death of george floyd just highlighted some of the real problems. how can an officer with that many citizen complaints be out teaching other officers. we know that our shared values accountability and transparency and consequence, when you break laws, have to be the core pillars of this law, or it's not worth us doing something. so, i feel that there's a moment in history right now. the white house has been extraordinarily helpful, the department of justice, police leadership, and especially civil rights groups. so, again, i know that this is a moment -- we haven't had meaningful police reform in this country for decades. and they're clearly -- as we see this drumbeat of god awful deaths and violence against unarmed african americans, we
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all have to share a collective urgency in this country to change laws to expand accountability and to work to end the crisis that right here in washington martin luther king in his "i have a dream" speech was speaking about police brutality, the conckerner commin many decades were pointing out we have to do something about this. >> i want to pick up senator booker what you just said about you and tim scott, both men of color who have lived experiences who have talked about your encounters with police. how much pressure do you feel, either self-imposed or pressure from the outside to get this done this time? you know, when george floyd was first murdered there were calls on both sides, everybody thought this is the moment, finally something will happen, and a do feel preeyourlf?till fl thegh obligayd mily y. ason. faas brr. w faile not just
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ree was ble, for havg a system in america that has allowed things like this to happen with such frequency. and so, yes. you know, when tim and i have been in private, as well as public, i think he gave one of the more meaningful speeches on race in this country, talking about him as a united states senator and his unfortunate encounters with law enforcement. and so, we have to make progress here. we cannot lose this moment. millions of americans went out into the streets in one of the greatest demonstrations for justice that we've had in the history of our nation. i think we need change in the federal government, state governments, local police departments. but i feel that. and that's why i'm working with such determination and urgency. >> i had already that part of the negotiations were taking part in the strom thurmond room. i didn't know that such a thing
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existed. that strikes me odd that you and tim scott are negotiating in that room. >> yeah, this is one of mthose moments in history, where i, karen bass and the senator were in the room. trying to strike legislation that eventually passed as i sat there, i had to note it to my friends and colleagues that we are living a moment where never before, in american history, have we seen, you know, three black men serving at the same time in the united states senate. two of them -- and warnock is a part of this, but all of us working so hard to get something done, to begin to make progress again on this horrible legacy of systematic racism and disparate impact on communities. so, we have a painful history. and, frankly, with the continued awful things from louisiana and
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across the country, we have painful presence. we all are obligated to do something about it. we have ideals in the country, equal justice for all. liberty and justice for all, that are not being full ffilledm just praying that is in the senate. >> you and tim scott across the aisle, everyone is watching. we thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you, gayle. and ahead, an investigation into misconduct by some elite navy s.e.a.l.s. you're watching "cbs this morning." we appreciate that. we'll be right back. do you like mud? (clicking) you like snow? go there.
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normal urinalysis screening after drug testing was scaled back to limited exposure to covid-19 during the pandemic. cbs news has learned that before l. cnder admiral ordered testing. effectively putting them on notice. according to an internal email sent on may 19th, s.e.a.l.s were directed to provide a urine sample today. for those on temporary assignment or official leave. the email read you will provide a urine sample on the day you return. while random drug testing in the s.e.a.l.s is standard procedure, more than a half dozen active duty s.e.a.l.s told cbs news this is not routine. last month, cbs news spoke exclusively with three current and former seals who described
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drug use in the ranks. we agreed to disguise their voices and hide their identities. you have first hand knowledge of deployments where individuals have been taking drugs? >> yes. >> yes. >> but i am angry, i pefeel betrayed. >> reporter: current and current s.e.a.l.s told cbs news they recall around 2016 when jamie sands read the east coast teams the riot act. >> how do you decide that it's okay for you to do drugs? >> reporter: two years after that dressing-down, a heavily redacted navy investigative report obtained by cbs news shows six members of s.e.a.l. team 10 tested positive for cocaine. >> i would say the majority of guys are not doing it. we've got to work hard to find the guys who are and how they're getting around. >> reporter: in response to our questions a navy spokesperson told cbs news that maintaining a
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brown. >> andre little hint of red in the suit. >> pluto? >> yeah, i love cartoons. here's a few of the stories that we think you'll be talking about today. officials at the l.a. zoo are blasting a young woman who recently climbed into a spider monkey exhibit. it shows a woman reportedly throwing snacks at the enclosure. the director of the zoo said the unidentified woman was stupid and lucky. she didn't put herself at risk, she harmed the two monkeys who are on a special diet. the zoo said they will press charges. the woman also was fired from our job at a law firm. >> and they can be very dangerous. >> they have canine feet.
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>> and she lost her job? >> look, i don't anybody to lose their job, that was dumb and dangerous. >> i call that stupid with two os. >> i was told you do stupid things you get stupid. the number of great white spotted off the coast of california has risen as much as 35% during the past decade. researchers say the increase is likely due to improved ocean conditions. you shouldn't be afraid to take a dip in the pacific. the experts say the increase does not mean there will be more shark attacks on humans. i'll take the expert's word for it, though, because i'm not going in that water. >> there are more sharks because there are more seals and more seals -- or sea lions because -- you know, general food chain out there is improving. >> the top of the food chain ore. >> that's right. >> i think evidence of the -- >> -- of the health in the ocean. >> yeah. >> my notes it says if attacked by a shark, the general goal is
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to do whatever it takes to get away. >> i heard you're supposed to punch them in the nose. >> yeah, who's going to be thinking about punching them. you guys are going to love this story. i'm not sure if you saw this. they s as man's best friend but not always. a man in iowa brought his pet bull to a drive-in.ery showed t of him and gucci. that's his name. he posted it to show the inseparable bond that the two share. what did gucci have? you guessed it, a little cup of ice cream. >> he had a small m&m mcflurry, by the way. >> i thought the bull would go with a sorbet or something like that? no? >> i'm trying to figure out how he got that bull in the vehicle. >> i like it. i like it. >> the animal theme. >> that's an unusual animal
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theme, nate burleson, nice nicelynecely done.i, i wonder n. nate, thank you. ashley graham is in the back. she's standing by in the green room to help co-host the next hour of "cbs this morning." she brought coffee again, how many cups -- >> no, no, she brought krispy kreme and coffee. >> how many doughnuts, bigger question? >> i helped with that one -- >> did you help? >> i helped eat the doughnuts. >> that's coming up on "cbs this morning." >> bye, nate. let them fail. and be there when they do. believe in their dreams. the more wild and absurd, the better. ♪ because bringing out the best of them, takes the very best of us. ♪
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it's tuesday, may 25th, 2021. we welcome you you back to "cbs welcome back to "cbs this morning." we are thrilled ashley graham is here. you came back, ashley. >> i did. >> good to have you here. >> here we begin with george floyd's death one year ago. it jump started a movement for racial jus dis. today we're going to follow the money that's gone into the push for reform. the fight over the tenure of a black implications. a new sho
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grohl and his mom. he'll be at the table to show us his love for rock and roll. >> first here's today's eye opener. a national debate as we mark one year since george floyd was murdered during an encounter with minneapolis police. today in minneapolis there are a number of events planned to remember george floyd and the organizers of those events to recommit to issues of police reform and talking about social justice. the u.s. put enormous pressure on israel to call a cease fire and secretary blinken's here to try to make it icpectatreow for whatev s u.s. a gen additional classified beces originat iiden calling for the release. but the chances of that are practically zero. >> i've got great news for you, and even better news for me,
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because on june 14th, the late show with stephen colbert will return to the ed sullivan theater with a full vaccinated audience. because, of course, vaccines have been long required at the ed sullivan theater since the outbreak of beetle mania. >> it does seem like an outbreak. that must have been very cool. >> it's so great they're coming back. >> i think so too. we're ready for it. we're so glad you came back for a second day, ashley gram. >> i'm happy to be back. day two. >> easier to get up this morning? >> it was a little bit. i think every day gets a little bit easier. i'm happy to come back. >> we're happy to have you back. >> and i'm bringing fwifts. i always like that. >> coffee and donuts. >> it's my pleasure. today marks the one year since derek chauvin murdered george floyd on a minneapolis street.
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video of the killing inspired millions of americans to join mass demonstrations while others showed their support in the form of money. big companies like nike, apple, and target pledged millions of dollars to social justice initiatives. and while donations have since decreased, racial justice leaders hope that giving will continue. the national correspondent jericka duncan looks at the impact of that financial support. >> in minneapolis, and around the world -- >> nous>> npeace. >> reporter: protesters enraged by the video of george floyd's death and fuelled by decades of injustice began asking what more can i do? and donations to support civil rights and black lives poured in. andrea hudson is director of the north carolina community bail fund of durham. >> we bail out folks who cannot afford to pay. we get the working class, the
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poor, the homeless who can't afford to pay a bondsman so they languish in the cages because they can't afford it. >> the national bail fund network raised 75 million in the two weeks after floyd's death. >> we went from bailing out maybe two to five people a mont people a week. >> even major corporations took a stand. >> black dreams matter. black voices matter. black lives matter. >> pledging 1 .7 billion tlar dollars to fight race inch benevity says that this time last year more than half of all donations went to racial justice in equity causes. >> 166 million went to social justice and racial equity causes in june. that's the most we'd ever seen of any cause category in our
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history. >> how was that cause category doing today? >> now it's back to 5 % or 6% o all donations. >> what does that tell you? >> we're driven to move when an issue becomes acute and it's the focus. and when it goes back to being normal, we step back into doing our normal thing which is usually nothing. >> why do we respond only to tragedy? >> mark president and ceo of the national urban league says in 2020, the number of donors doubled. >> do you worry that that moment is not sustainable? >> so i look at it this way. there's then support, but not at the levels and not at the magnitude one necessary to nfos demanding and pressing problem and that is the challenges around racial justice. >> and as protests ntinueopleik
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ou dt t fight. i always say i fight for freedom because freedom should be free, but since it's not, i have to fight for it. >> for "cbs this morning," jericka duncan, new york. >> i like what she said. i fight for freedom because freedom should be free, but i think there was a good point. why do we only rise to the occasion during tragedy? that's what i worry about a year later. we're having the same conversation. if anything, it's more important now than ever before. the ronald green video released last week is just as upsetting and damaging, and horrible as george floyd. >> i agree with you. i will say, though, that enormous spike in money that went to social justice causes is extraordinary, and i think i would assume say unprecedented. i don't think we've ever seen anything like that. >> but how disheartening to hear it went down 5 %. >> has the -- that's the way this country works. we focus on something when it
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blows up in our faces. >> but nobody is going to forget the impact of george floyd. >> no, and it's obviously still having an impact. >> it shows you why it's important to press on in the moment. i worry about us becoming desensitized. that's what i don't want to happen. this issue is too important. >> it is. >> we'll look at a university did not grant tenure to a journalist. did her work on a project play a role? we'll ta
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this morning" back in august 2019, as "the new york times" magazine launched "the 1619 project" an ongoing series the magazine says aims to reframe the country's history by placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black americans at the very center of our national narrative. the project marked the 400th anniversary of slavery in america. >> we don't know about 1619 the same way we don't learn very much about slavery. it's shameful. no one wants to talk about their sins or their worst moments. >> reporter: materials for the project have been developed into lesson plans to use in schools but some leaders are trying to block it in public education. >> this project rewrites american history to teach our children that we were founded on the principle of oppression, not freedom. >> reporter: gop lawmakers in five states have introduced bills to cut funding to schools and universities that use the project. >> we just want our kids to have the real history of america, to be proud of america in our beginning and make sure they
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have the best. >> reporter: in response to criticism about the project's focus, the "times" issued a clarify last year to its opening essay by hannah-jones, noting that protecting slavery was a reason that some of the colonists pout the american revolution, but not all of them hannah-jones stands by it and how it's shaping origins and continues to affect black americans today. for "cbs this morning," ed o'keefe, washington. >> nikole hannah-jones has accepted a contract with the school. we reached out to her and have not heard. the chairman told cbs news that the board has taken no action and made no decision concerning her decision or tenure. best on "cbs this morning," best-selling author ta-nehisi coates joins us to discuss the larger debate about the project and how we teach history in this country. good morning, it's always good
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to have you here. i know you know nikole hannah-jones very well, and i know you've been talking to her and you don't want to betray any confidential conversations you've had. but i'm curious about your reaction to the controversy. >> good morning, gayle, sorry i can't be in the studio with you guys. >> yeah, me too. i can't wait. >> you know, my reaction is, while on the one hand, this is clearly about nikole who is, to my mind, among if not the most decorated journalist in our profession. and how she was treated down at unc. bt there is a much bigger debate that's going on here. and it is about what ideas our children -- what ideas students at colleges will be exposed to or not. "the 1619 project" has its detractors. it has its proponents. there's been a vigorous debate around it, as it should be. that's what we want in education, that's what we want in a free society. when i see state legislatures, united states senators, when pr
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states directing critique at it via an executive order, when we saw laws being passed, actual policy to ban "the 1619 project" critical race theory and other ideas deemed detrimental, you know, i think we have a problem on a different scale. we've moved beyond the realm of critique into the realm of actual policy and i think that's a problem. >> let's talk about the critical race theory and what it means and the calls to ban it? >> yeah, so the critical race theory is a framework for understanding american history and american life. and the basic premise of it starts from the idea that racism is endemic to this society. now, you can agree with that or disagree with that. there are all sorts of historical those are or theorys that can be applied to a law, et cetera. but to ban it, i really want to focus on that, it's not what your opinion is, the idea it should be banned from teaching all. or banned from discussion or
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education or pushed out of the public square, i think that's a huge problem. you should find that problematic. there are many notions and ideas in america that i totally and completely disagree with. i wouldn't ban them. there are a lot of people that i think are dead, dead wrong. you know, i wouldn't move for schools and universities to ban a discussion of those ideas. i just think that's a totally, totally different level. >> ta-nehisi, what do you believe the critics of "the 1619 project" are worried about? >> well, you know, i don't want to speak for the critics. i don't want to get into a path where, you know, i'm saying it's wrong to criticize. i think the critics have and can speak for themselves. i think the people who are attempting to pass policy to banish it out of the public square are simply afraid of a fair and just accounting of american history. we're at a moment right now where people are pulling down statues and monuments, et cetera. we're having a much, much broader reconsideration of what
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the history of this country is. you know, there's hard questions to be asked. why is it that in the state of tennessee there are more statues of o than all three presidents of tennessee put together. how can that be true? i think we're having a broader conversation right now that scares a lot of people. >> thanks for joining us, ashley here. i just want to know, what do you think americans will take away from this controversy? >> i hope they will come to understand that no matter how this discomforting an idea is, no matter how, you know, an idea makes you feel or whatever, when you seal the state using policy to remove those notions from the public square, you got a problem of a different order. again, i just want to be really, really clear, you don't have to agree with nikole.
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you don't have to agree with me. you don't have to agree with anybody but when you see the president of the united states directing an executive order towards a journalistic project, you should be afraid. it could be easily be me. any of us could be next, when you see the state moving to ban those. >> that was former president trump you were speaking of. but i want to go back to nikole hannah-jones at the time unc called her one of the voices leading in journalism at the top of her field. her cr her credentials are impeccable. they've not tdeny tenured this t what's happening here. >> nikole went through the steps this was brought before the board of trustees and they just declined to vote on it.
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i don't know how that's better. i do want to say, this morning, we have a letter we're delivering to unc, and the signees give broad support. we have everybody from chris paul to cornell west to amy sher sherald. >> this is a letter going live on troot, it looks like hundred of signatures. line that strikes me is few single works have been threatened with more restrictions than "the 1619 project." >> yeah, i mean, look, certainly, i tried to make a career writing things both for conversation -- you know, i've never, ever written anything that drew the ire of 22 state senators. that drew the eye of multiple attorneys generals, the state of texas, it drew the ire of the home state of iowa. >> we're going to run out of
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♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." time to bring you some of the stories we call "talk of the table." why? because it's a table worth talking. anthony, you're in pole position. >> i've got an interesting controversy around a high school yearbook. a school superintendent in north florida is responding to a controversial move to digitally alter dozens of high school yearbook photos. take a look at what they did to these pictures. the school has a dress code. and they decided that these young women were not modest enough. so they digitally altered the photographs that went into the yearbook. this, as you might expect, has caused a significant blowback. here's how the superintendent in the school district tried to explain it.
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>> it was never an intent to embarrass or harm any of those students. we missed the mark, okay. and we'll do better. we'll continue to get better. >> i should say that this happened at bartram trail high school. a female teacher at the school who oversees the yearbook club deemed he's pictures inappropriate. there's a dress code for girls that states clothing must be modest and not revealing or distracted. but listen to how one student thought about it. >> they looked at our body and thought that a little bit of skin showing was sexual. then they looked at the boys for the swim team photos and other sports photos and thought that was fine. that was upsetting. >> one parent calls it body discrimination, gender discrimination and sexualizing of girls. >> i appreciate the superintendent saying, look, we missed the mark, we'll do
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better. it doesn't help when it's your arbook. and the guys in the swim trunks are wearing their speedos, which, by the way, don't look good on anybody. >> that's a whole other debate. >> that's a whole other debate. they looked great in their pictures. >> it makes they feel bad for nothing with the body. that's the problem we're having. >> exactly. >> we do not approve. you will approve of this one, a massachusetts woman got lucky in the lottery, not once, but twice. what happened to her, her name is leah. she goes all the time to the lucky spot convenience store to buy her lotto tickets. she bought a bunch of them. there's the lucky spot in southwick, massachusetts. he bought a bunch of tickets and scratched them. told the guy behind the unter, st throwse awayot a nner. unds good. owner's son picked up the tickets, he knew they were
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leah's he saw one that she hadn't scratched off, guess what, it was a million dollar winner. we like this. this is what he decided to do. >> so, i was a millionaire for a night. my grandmother said let's not keep the ticket, it's not right. let's give it back to you. if it's in your luck, you'll get it anyway. >> he goes to leah's job. she's priced to see him. she said i really need to talk to you i'm at work, i really can't come talk to you now. she said, no, you have to come talk to me. she told me the good news. the store already gets a $10,000 bonus for selling the ticket. diego said she gave the family an additional award. i wanted to share this story, i so believe, guys in our divided times we're all sniping and moaning at each other verbally and physically. i believe that people are inherently good. >> uh-huh.
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>> yeah. >> i believe in most cases given the opportunity -- let me tell sign is name, abishaw. i know his grandmother suggested but i believe he would have done it. >> i do, too. >> a million dollar card. >> he could have kept it. >> she would never have known. >> but the thing is, he would have known. we should give them a shotout, lucky spot in massachusetts. they've got good people working behind the counter. in the world of fashion what's old is new again. the '90s trends are back. it could be scary. you've probably noticed a lot of celebrities lately today they are wearing baby tees, camisoles with dresses and, the low rise jeans. i have a few photos i want to show with you today, walking this. this trend i have to say was incredibly scary.
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and i feel there's a true resurgence coming out. and also the denim with the fringe. >> is that coming back? >> it's back. >> i like it. >> i like it. >> why are youal afraid? >> because i'm not a low-rise jean girl. the lower belly, no, i don't like it hanging over. i like a high-rise jean. i like a bell bottom moment. it's like a tapered look. i did get rid of a lot of things. >> and now you're thinking i should have kept those because now they're coming back. >> because everything old is new again. >> that's how it works. that's how it works. that's not always bad. >> no, it's always interesting to see what comes back. you stick around long enough, it all comes back, my mom used to
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again with foot fighthe foo fig. grohl is teaming up with another one of his icons his mom virginia. they have a new show called "from cradle to stage" which is streaming on paramount plus part of viacomcbs. in it the two share stories about their life and interview other big names in music and their mothers. on thursday, grohl and his mother talk about nirvana. ♪ >> what i saw of a nirvana show where you destroyed all the instruments at the end of it, i was aghast. after growing up with not more than ten cents left over each month, i thought you knew that one should not waste valuable materials. >> ah, first of all, i didn't stat it. [ laughter ] i know.
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>> that is such a son's answer. >> yeah. yeah. >> dave grohl joins us at the table. good morning. your mom has been so instrumental in your career and so supportive and said yes at the key moments. >> you know, my mother was a public s teacher 35 years. in that, she basically just put everyone before herself her entire life. >> yeah. >> so, when she had me, i wasn't the best student. i wasn't a great -- i wasn't good at school. but she saw this passion with music. >> right. >> and she eventually just said, okay, like, go, you're free. go do the music, that where you become yourself. >> coming from a teacher many would have thought or insisted you stay in school. amazing. >> yeah. >> this show was essentially her
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idea. she wanted to talk to other moms. >> yeah. imagine moms' expes are very differ you know, there's a lot of parallels, but, yes. so when she retired. i said, don't do the cruise ship thing. >> yeah. >> like come on tour with me and travel the world. she started coming to shows with me all over the world. she's like where are all the other mothers. i'm the only moms at these shows. she went to hunt them down. they started interviewing all of these different mothers who have christian from musicians from different genres of music, different eras. and she found all of these really clear parallels. one of them being, each one of these kids in between the ages of 10, 12, 13 -- >> your mom said 12 to 13, that thing happens. >> yeah. >> why 12 to 13? >> i think because it's at that time you're becoming indeuhuh >> and you're discovering identity. and if you have any sort ofdec
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musician, and i'm going to become myself through playing music. that's kind of where i went. >> the i think i thought was so interesting, dave. we got to see other people's stories, dan reynoldses imagine dragons. and amanda lambert. it's sprinkled with u2 throughout. you work at a furniture store, pizza, you spent a lot of time in your neighborhood just doing regular stuff. but you knew this is what you wanted to do. >> yeah. well, with most of the musicians i know, you have to do it. you can't not do it. >> yeah. >> every once in a while, somebody said i used to play guitar. >> i've never heard a musician ythatth compelled to do it. every so often, you'll meet a songwriter who stops writing
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music -- >> it's strange because it becomes your identity and the they're breathe. >> i was struck how hard you guys work, you, dan, miranda. and you said that was a lot of work, seems like a lot of work, working at shaky's pizza, miranda doing what she was doing. dan reynolds to get to be dan reynoldses of imagine dragons day. >> right. i said it only works if you want to do it. and with music you wake up every single day chasing it. >> did you learn talking to other moms? >> absolutely. >> what struck you the most? >> well, the relationship between mother and child can be the most -- the most important relationship you have. because that -- that becomes the foundation of your understanding of love. >> uh-huh. >> yeah. >> and love is every artist's greatest muse.
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so if that's the foundation, then your perspective and the way that you write and everything that you create is sort of like rooted in that. so, i see the love between pharrell and his mother. lee and his mother. miranda and her parents. you see so much love there. and i have to imagine, the reason why they've all become so brilliant and successful is because they got that love. and it's really based on that. >> pharrell said his mom taught him humility. that's where you find love and gratitude. that he hopes his parents are proud. at the end the day, i don't care who you are, kids want their parents to be proud. and vice versa, parents want the kids to feel proud about them, too. you can see that all over. >> not even being a parent of a musician. >> no, it's not. and the wrong kind of parent can screw you up too. >> well it can go both ways. >> yeah, it can. >> when i interviewed
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pharrell -- pharrell is a genius, a beautiful person, producer absolutely. when he sits down with his mother it goes like this -- it's true. i love this mother. it's such an incredible family. you really see the artist kind of go like this and the mother go like. >> that relationship stays with you. >> i like that. i like that. >> i want to -- since you're talking about this thing you love which is music, you got to play your first live gig in how many months it was in front of 25,000 people. >> yeah. >> arena of 100,000 as you pointed out, how did that feel? >> it was amazing. for the last year -- you know, the biggest part of being with the foo fighters going on tour, we played three hours a night. played big shows. becauses the connection with the people that i think is the most important element of being in a band. face-to-
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face-to-face, tangible. really there. for the last year, i've been having these dreams where i walk out on stage, i see the people, all right -- yeah, we're together again, then i wake up and i'm on zoom. >> yeah. >> to actually go back -- >> to see people cheer you up. >> i think 50% of the audience knew who we were. the other 50% had no idea who we were. it was mostly first responders and teachers and team like that. i know in the front row there was his woman, she must have been 80 years old or something like this, we're playing this song, she's just going bananas. i'm like, you've never heard us before. >> what did foo fighters mean? >> foo fighters is a slang term for ufo in world war ii. i was reading a book. i did it like five or six days. >> so you all became foos? >> i didn't want to call it the
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dave grohl band. plurought foo like aunch of gu ds le nd. it on a actually have to get a band. >> back to pharrell for just a second. here you are, you're in the high school parking lot, the principal comes out, anthony, can i just ask what you're doing here. what you're doing here? dave grohl. oh! i can't imagine people's reactions when they don't recognize you right away. because when you said dave grohl, he became putty in your hands. >> what can i do for you, dave? >> i went back to that high school, unfortunately, that's the high school i left to play music. i felt a little validated. >> and hall of fame for him -- your second -- >> rock 'n' roll hall of fame number two. >> what does that mean, dave
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grohl? i thought one was cool, it's even better? >> you know i'm very, very happy and proud for all of the people that i've worked with for the last 25 to 30 years. >> yeah. >> i mean, i've had the same manager for 30 years. had the same tour manager for 25 years. >> that says something. >> it's a family thing. >> we've got to go, we've got talk to ashley. new episodes "from cradle to stage" come out on thursdays on paramount plus.
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