captioning sponsored by cbs >> dickerson: i'm john rocker's in washington, and this week on "face the nation," america returns to the world stage with president biden's first trip overseas. after more than a year of long-distance zoom diplomacy, leaders of the g-7 looked each other in the eye in cornwall, but president biden and his family received a warm reception from america's allies as he kicked off his first trip abroad since taking office. >> it is wonderful to listen to the biden administration. he is a breath of fresh air. >> i think it is great to have a u.s. president part of the club and very willing to cooperate.

>> dickerson: elbows were bumped, barbecue was shared on the beach, and, of course, there was cake. [laughter] >> dickerson: president biden didn't show up to the gathering empty-handed. >> biden: the united states will purchase a half billion doses of pfizer's covid-19 vaccine to donate to nearly 100 nations that are in dire need in the fight against this pandemic. >> dickerson: but america's friends will soon be in the rear-view mirror as mr. biden prepares for a face to face with russian president vladimir putin. >> biden: we're not seeking conflict with russia, but i've been clear: the united states will respond in a robust and meaningful way on the russian government that engages in harmful activities. >> dickerson: we'll preview the sitdown with antony blinken and mark the end of an era as israelis welcome a new government and say good-bye to the old one.

plus, we'll hear from andy slavitt, a former senior advisor to the white house covid response team. and we'll also check in with former f.d.a. commissioner dr. scott gottlieb. and as negotiations on capitol hill over a massive infrastructure bill begin to show some bipartisan promise, we'll talk with a key deal-maker and republican senator susan collins about the prospect for an agreement. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >> dickerson: good morning and welcome to "face the nation." president biden wrapped up the first leg of his first foreign trip this morning, signing an agreement with g-7 leaders, vowing new cooperation in the fights against covid and climate change before he headed off to brussels, where he'll hold his first meeting with nato leaders. and then it is off to geneva for a meeting with vladimir putin, it is a

jam-packed trip which also included a meeting with the queen. before that, president biden took questions from reporters. >> biden: and i think how we act, and whether we pull together the democracies is going to determine whether our grandkids look back 15 years from now and say, did they step up? >> dickerson: we begin this morning with secretary of state antony blinken, who is in brussels. good morning, mr. secretary. >> john, good to see you. >> dickerson: mr. secretary, the president wrote in the "washington post" is one of the purposes of this meeting is to demonstrate that democracies can confront ought toc autoc aut autocrascies? >> the proposition that the president had is we need to demonstrate that democracies can deliver in

all sorts of ways to better the lives of our people. and that's exactly what he has demonstrated just in the last couple of days alone at the g-7. look at what has come out of this summit. by the way, i've been involved in these g-7s for probably 25years. this is the most consequential one i've been involved in. a billion shots in arms around the world with the covid vaccine. dealing in a very meaningful way with climate change, in terms of getting a prohibition on financing coal projects around the world, the largest single contributor to global warming. a 15% minimum global tax, a powerful way of increasing the tax rates of countries around the world, avoiding a race to the bottom, and making sure countries have the money to invest in their people, in infrastructure, and health care, and do markets for our products at the same time. and, finally, this build back better world, which is taking to the world

what we're already doing at home, helping use this moment, this inflection point, to pull the resources of all of the democracies to invest in and get the private sector to invest in low and middle-income countries to strengthen their health systems and infrastructure and technology. that can also benefit us. i say all of this because it is important that the president's basic proposition, we have to show democracies coming together, can deliver real results. >> dickerson: right. those -- >> when it comes to dealing with -- go ahead, john. >> dickerson: those are some results, but when it comes to confronting china, you talked about the ongoing genocide in china. that is very strong issues. others have said that china is assaulting basic human appetites. why is the president using that kind of harsh language, and at at the end of the day, how does that

change china? >> the first thing you're seeing in the g-7, a communique that is about to be released, a focus on china. the last time the g-7 came together, there wasn't even mention of china in the communique. i think that shows that countries are concerned across the board in many of china's actions. it is a complicated relationship for virtually all of the g-7 countries. it is in some aspects, adversarial, and in other aspects cooperative. but the common denominator, and i think where these countries are coming together, is we need to be able to deal with china in all of those areas coming from a position of strength and coming from a united position. i think what the president was able to do in these last couple of days was bring countries closer together in dealing with some of the challenges posed by china. >> dickerson: i'd like to move on to russia in a moment. but the chinese have said they're not going to help the u.s. investigate the

potential of the lab leak in the start of covid-19. does the u.s. have any sway in getting cooperation from the chinese? >> i think not only the united states, but the world is insisting on it. one of the things coming out of the g-7 is an insistence that the w.h.o. be able to move forward with china cooperating on this so-called phase 2 report, to build on the initial report, which had real problems with it, not the least of which was china's failure to cooperate. here is the thing john, coming out of this, we need a couple of things: we need to understand what happened and get to the bottom of it. we're working on that through the w.h.o. and ourselves. the president ordered a 90 day sprint to try to get to the bottom of it. the main purpose is to make sure that knowing what happened, why it happened, how it happened, we can put in place what is necessary to prevent it from happening again or at least to mitigate i it happening again. china has to cooperate,

information sharing, that has to happen. i think you're seeing countries coming together to insist on that. >> dickerson: let me move on to russia. i asked one of your predecessors, condoleezza rice, how to judge the meeting with putin. and she said ignore the theater reviews, but look several months down the road and see if russia has gotten the messages that have been delivered privately. what should we look for six months or so from now to show there were fruits of this actual meeting. >> i think secretary ru-4riceis exactly right. this is not a light-switch moment. this is about the president wanting to do two things, and he has been very clear about it: to tell president putin directly that we seek a more predictable, stable relationship. and if we're able to do that, there are areas where it is in our mutual interest to cooperate. but if russia continues to take reckless and aggressive actions, we'll respond forcefully, as

we've already done, when it comes to the election interference, when it comes to the attempt to poison and kill mr. na mr. navali. i think secretary rice is exactly right, that we'll see that play out in the months ahead. >> dickerson: russia has joined a new agreement against cyber-hacking, but those types of agreements have existed before. and this is why people look to these international meetings with a heavy degree of sketicism. why should the united states trust russia in the new agreement when the united states believes that russia has broken all of the previous ones? >> it is not a matter of trust. i think someone once said don't trust and verify. we'll see by russia's actions whether it will make good on any commitments it makes. here is the thing: we've now been the victim of ransomware attacks, and many of these attacks come

from criminal organizations, not necessarily from states. but countries have an obligation. no responsible country should be in the business of harboring criminal groups engaged in these attacks. this is one of the things president biden will be taking up with president putin. >> dickerson: during the early days of 9/11, the position was if you harbor a terrorist, you've just like the terrorist. is there an analogy there on cyber-crime? >> yes, there is because we know the vulnerabilities. one of the things the president is insisting on is a very aggressive effort, first of all, to shore up our defenses. and that means working closely with the private sector because a lot of the infrastructure is controlled by the private sector, not the government. it's means putting place all of the tools we need to disrupt these ransomware networks, and that requires a lot of coordination with other countries. that's exactly what we've been engaged in, here at the g-7 and now at nato.

and making it very clear that any country that harbors these groups, that's not a sustainable proposition, and we're going to need to take action to stop that. >> dickerson: as an illustrations of the relationship with russia, on the one hand the u.s. is working with russia to revive the nuclear deal with iran. on the other hand, the "washington post" is reporting that russia plans of supplying iran advanced satellite systems. is russia going to pay a penalty with regard to supplying the advanced satellite -- >> they will stand or fall on their own merit and on their own weight. so i want to be very clear about that. second, i'm not going to get ahead of the president. i suspect he'll be taking this up with president putin in a couple of days. john, let me say one more

thing on this: this meeting with president putin is not happening in a vacuum. the president will be coming off of the g-7 and the meeting with the european leaders. collectively, when we bring the world's democracies together, it is an incredibly powerful force, economically, militarily. across these countries, confidence in american -- in president biden's leadership is up 75%. up 17% from a year ago. we're in a position to work and to bring all of the countries together in common cause and purposes, including dealing with challenges from russia or china. >> dickerson: final quick question, mr. secretary, iran has made a lot of progress since the nuclear deal fell apart. a lot is material, but a lot is knowledge. how do you put the knowledge back in the box -- >> you're exactly right. since we pulled out of the

nuclear deal and iran began to ignore the restraints that the deal has imposed on it, it has been galloping forward. it is enriching more material, enriching at higher levels and degrees than we're allowed under the agreement, and, you're right, it is gaining knowledge. if this goes on a lot longer, if they continue to gallop ahead, you're right, they're going to have knowledge that will be very hard to reverse. which puts some urgency in seeing if we can put the nuclear problems back in the box that the agreement had put it in, which, unfortunately, iran is now out of as a result of us out of as a result of us pulling out of the agagreement. > dickersonon: thank y you soso much, mr. . secretaryry. we're out t of t time.. "facace the natition" will l be baback in a fewew minutes.. stay with h us. wiwithout missssing a beata. so, yoyou can feeded his passi. ear r plugs not t included.. ♪♪

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senator susan collins who joins us from bangor, maine. good morning, senator. >> senator: good morning. >> dickerson: the official talks between the white house and republicans had broken down. you're part of the group that says you have an agreement. why will your agreement work where the previous negotiations failed? >> senator: well, first, i want to give credit to senator capito, who led the previous negotiations because she certainly advanced the ball. where ours is different, first of all, it is bipartisan. we have five republicans and five democrats who got together to hammer out the framework for a targeted, responsible infrastructure package. one way that it differs is that it includes provisions for resiliency, for strengthening the materials that we use to build our roads and bridges, and to strengthen our electrical

infrastructure. it includes some energy provisions that are important to the administration and to many of our members as well. >> dickerson: and what about the sticky question of how to pay for all of this? where does it -- i've heard there are reports it might include a gas tax increase? >> senator: there won't be a gas tax increase, and we won't be undoing the 2017 tax reform bill. let me talk about three of the paid fors. one is the implementation of an infrastructure financing authority. that is very similar to the state revolving funds that we used for sewer and water projects, and it is a bipartisan proposal that was first put forth by senators mark warner and ry blunt. a second would be to repurpose some of the covid funding that has not been spent. in the $1.9 trillion

package that was enacted in march, there were restrictions on what the funding could be used for. it could be used for water, sewer, and broadband. we would make it more flexible so it could be used for infrastructure projects. and, third, there would be a provision for electric vehicles to pay their fair share of using our roads and bridges. right now they are literally free riders because they're not paying any gas tax. so those are three of the provisions that we have taken a look at. >> dickerson: one of the objections to taking back some of the money in the covid relief plan is that some of the states have really benefited. their tax receipts are up. but that is not true of all states. so some states are saying you can't take away this money that is helping us recover from covid to then use it for infrastructure. >> senator: well, i've talked to governors who

are enthusiastic about the pros text. an prospect. and when you have a state like california which has an enormous surplus, and yet we're giving billions of additional dollars to that state, i think we can find room to repurpose some of this money. and when you look at what has been spent, there is literally hundreds of billions of dollars in the pipeline, going back to the initial cares act that was passed in march of last year. we have put an enormous amount of money, and rightfully so, into fighting covid. last year we had five bipartisan bills. and this year president biden added another $1.9 trillion that included a lot of funding that was not directly for fighting covid. >> dickerson: in this bill a lot of what is

falling out are a lot of the president's priorities on child care and elder care; is that right? >> senator: we are focusing on the traditional infrastructure definition, roads, bridges, airports, seaports, roadways, broadband, and i think that makes sense. >> dickerson: leaving aside the word "infrastructure," the argument that the president and his supporters make is in today's infrastructure, when it comes to child care and elder care, if you don't provide help to those kinds of things, they are as much of an impediment of those women having a shot at the american dream and being in the workforce than any infrastructure program. do you agree with that premise that there are those barriers? >> senator: i do think we need to take a look at barriers to the workforce, at the feed for more home

health care. there is no one who has been a bigger advocate of home health care than i have been. and we also have to learn lessons from the pandemic that we can use. for example, telemedicine to reach people in an affective way. but we need to reimburse for that. so we can look at these issues, but they are not infrastructure. and they should be considered separately. and i believe they will be. >> dickerson: and what the opponents, of course, of your position would say is, the reason to consider them infrastructure is because if you say we'll leave it for another day, is that that other day never comes. the reason to try to put them in this bill is to force focusing on issues that are vital to a certain portion of the public. you don't buy that argument? >> senator: well, first of all, i think these issues are important. and that's why, for example, in the 2017 tax reform act, we made the child tax credit refund ablerefundable for the first

time, and we took advantage of a tax incentive to expand the incentive and the help that you would get if you're taking care of an elderly relative or a child. we put money in the covid bills to expand child care centers. and i've seen ymcas right here in bangor, maine, expand their child care programs. so i think we need to look at what is out there, but there is no doubt that this is an area where we need to look at our reimbursement, we need to look at our child care development fund, and we need to look at the tax code. and i think we can and should do that. >> dickerson: let me move on to the question of a "new york times" report ths week that said that during the trump administration, the department of justice subpoenaed some information from apple that uncovered the accounts of two democrats on the house intelligence

committee. you're on the senate intelligence committee. what does that report -- what is your reaction to that report? >> senator: there are two serious allegations here: one has to do with whether or not there was a leak of classified information by members of congress, but the second, which is also important, is has the justice department abused its power by going after members of congress or the press for partisan political purposes? and that's why i support the deputy attorney general's request that the inspector general of the department of justice do an indepth investigation of both of these issues. that is really important. >> dickerson: let me ask you another intelligence-related question: you recently helped legislation get passed that would treat

victims of so-called havana syndrome, the u.s. officials working in cuba who were attacked by some kind of weapon -- there is speculation among officials that the russians are behind that weapon. do you feel that that is sufficiently true, that president biden should bring it up in his meeting with president putin this week? >> senator: certainly the russians are one of the key suspects. we don't know for sure. but keep in mind there have been more than 100 american public servants who have been injured by these directed energy attacks. and we need not only to take care of their medical needs, but also to find out who it is. i think that secretary blinken has done a great job as secretary of state, but i hope the president will bring up this issue with president putin directly. >> dickerson: excellent. and we're out of time. senator collins, thank you

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♪ >> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." good evening, everyone. i'm errol barnett. jericka duncan is off tonight. president biden is in belgium tonight ahead of talks with nato and european leaders. it's the second stop on an eight-day foreign trip, his first as president. but it's his face-to-face summit with president vladimir putin that's attracting the most attention. america has an agenda of grievances for putin. cbs's ed o'keefe is in brussels tonight with more. ed, good evening. >> reporter: errol, good evening. the president's now here in brussels after weekend meetings